At least at the time, Debian's GNOME package had a hardcoded dependency on the systemd package, not a feature/virtual package which provides the services. And GNOME DDs were refusing to change that, because they didn't like the systemd-shim.
Whether that was the case then it isn't now.
gdm3 depends on libpam-systemd.
libpam-systemd depends on systemd-sysv | systemd-shim.
There is exactly one package in current Jessie or Sid that depends on systemd -- gummiboot.
The proposition to have multiple init system in Debian was promptly rejected
No it wasn't.
What was rejected was the proposition that packages that didn't support all init systems should be removed from Debian, violating the Debian constitution:
2.1.1 Nothing in this constitution imposes an obligation on anyone to do work for the Project. A person who does not want to do a task which has been delegated or assigned to them does not need to do it. However, they must not actively work against these rules and decisions properly made under them.
Deboian does have multiple init systems, and if people want it to continue to have multiple init systems then it is up to those people to do the work, not to try to force other developpers to do the work for them.
You must be thinking of the USA where the following offences merit mandatory jail time:
(1) driving while Black. (2) walking while White. (3) possession of a Penis.
You forgot that (1) walking while black and (2) selling loose cigarettes while black and, my favourite, (3) carrying a toy gun in a toyshop while black are punished by on-the-spot execution.
The hilarious part of (3) is that he was shot for carrying a toy rifle in an open carry state.
Looking at their (horribly small) graph it seems that the two best 2nd languages for English speakers are French (if you want to talk to Africa) and Russian (if your want to talk to Putin's near abroad).
Spanish doesn't win you much that you don't get with English + French.
Actually, at the time people honestly believed that Mars, Venus and/or the Moon really did have perfectly breathable atmospheres and Earth-like gravity,
How "early" are you aiming for here?
Verne and Wells knew that the Moon and Mars didn't have Earth-like gravity or atmospehre. (I think they both overestimated the atmosphere of the Moon or Mars, but the knew it wasn't earth like).
I agree that Iain M. Banks's Culture novels show that Stross's goal is at least possible. He did a brilliant job of imagining a distant future that gave me severe culture shock, but was also entertaining and engaging.
Well, for values of "a distant future" that include "the distant past".
The bad news is that we are not one of the ancestor civilisations of the Culture. In fact they visited us in the '80s and decided we were boringly horrible and to be left alone to see if we'd get interesting in the future.
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At least at the time, Debian's GNOME package had a hardcoded dependency on the systemd package, not a feature/virtual package which provides the services. And GNOME DDs were refusing to change that, because they didn't like the systemd-shim.
Whether that was the case then it isn't now.
gdm3 depends on libpam-systemd.
libpam-systemd depends on systemd-sysv | systemd-shim.
There is exactly one package in current Jessie or Sid that depends on systemd -- gummiboot.
GNOME demands the systemd, not just any systemd.
No. Gnome demands libpam-systemd or consolekit. libpam-systemd demands either systemd or systemd-shim.
So either work on consolekit/consolekit2 or work on systemd-shim.
The proposition to have multiple init system in Debian was promptly rejected
No it wasn't.
What was rejected was the proposition that packages that didn't support all init systems should be removed from Debian, violating the Debian constitution:
Deboian does have multiple init systems, and if people want it to continue to have multiple init systems then it is up to those people to do the work, not to try to force other developpers to do the work for them.
Well, they are right that serious criminals have gone unpunished in the last year, i.e. the ones working at GCHQ.
Who are paid agents of a foreign power.
No it doesn't you innumerate racist clown.
You must be thinking of the USA where the following offences merit mandatory jail time:
(1) driving while Black.
(2) walking while White.
(3) possession of a Penis.
You forgot that
(1) walking while black and
(2) selling loose cigarettes while black and, my favourite,
(3) carrying a toy gun in a toyshop while black
are punished by on-the-spot execution.
The hilarious part of (3) is that he was shot for carrying a toy rifle in an open carry state.
We sure couldn't get pallets down the hatch of a submarine.
Some of the HCSD minicomputers were specificaly designed around the size of a submarine hatch.
https://oldpiratebay.org/torrent/12085099/The-Interview-2014-PROPER-DVDRip-XviD-JABAL
He called you "boche", it's more likely that he's a frog than a brit.
A brit would probably have called you a kraut.
Splendid. You think Sony has leaked massive amounts of its own and it's employees private data to big up a crappy film.
Seriously -- you are an idiot.
And taxes are good, right?
Yes, they are. Glad you realise it.
The rouble has lost roughly 50% of its value against the US dollar over the last two years.
For values of two years that are rather closer to six months.
Had this happened 5 years ago, it's likely ISIS wouldn't have happened, but sadly they can survive now without Iranian funding.
Oh, dear, you were doing so well with your amateur economics lesson, then you stray into international affairs and fuck up bad.
Iran has never funded, and could never conceivably fund, ISIS.
ISIS is a bunch of Sunni islamic loons. Iran is a bunch of Shia islamic loons. ISIS kill Shia more or less on sight.
Iran is an ally of ISIS's enemies, Iraq and Syria. Iran is currently bombing ISIS.
If ISIS received outside funding it came from the Gulf, possibly including Saudi Arabia.
North Korea has nuclear weapons
And no long distance delivery system
and a million soldier army.
And no navy and airforce large enough to protect it as they make their way across the pacific.
South Korea might have a problem, but elsewhere?
And it doesn't have to be NK that does it... some crazy nut job could... and Sony would be on the hook for liability.
How?
You called?
https://oldpiratebay.org/torrent/11911439/The-Interview-2014-DVDRip-x264
Americans are pussies.
They always give in to threats.
It didn't use to be so. Sad.
Sooner or later you're going to encounter -- or even write -- an NDA,
Fuck off and die.
Looking at their (horribly small) graph it seems that the two best 2nd languages for English speakers are French (if you want to talk to Africa) and Russian (if your want to talk to Putin's near abroad).
Spanish doesn't win you much that you don't get with English + French.
And, of course, it is.
Who said it wasn't?
Anal prolapse is "no injuries"?
Death by hypothermia is not permanent?
Your mind, apparently.
0x2b | ~0x2b == -1
Actually, at the time people honestly believed that Mars, Venus and/or the Moon really did have perfectly breathable atmospheres and Earth-like gravity,
How "early" are you aiming for here?
Verne and Wells knew that the Moon and Mars didn't have Earth-like gravity or atmospehre. (I think they both overestimated the atmosphere of the Moon or Mars, but the knew it wasn't earth like).
Well, for values of "a distant future" that include "the distant past".
The bad news is that we are not one of the ancestor civilisations of the Culture. In fact they visited us in the '80s and decided we were boringly horrible and to be left alone to see if we'd get interesting in the future.