Oh contraire - "regulations" are in fact so close to law that mere mortals can't tell the difference.
Who said I'm a mere mortal?;)
Regulations correctly issued by government agencies have "the force and effect of law" until overturned by a court of legislated out existence by Congress.
The SEC is a government body that REGULATES the exchange of stock. They can fine you or your company for breaking the SEC regulations. They can do things to your public stock. They can cause you or your company to be criminally investigated, but they themselves are not able to put people in jail.
From their site:
"While the SEC has civil enforcement authority only, it works closely with various criminal law enforcement agencies throughout the country to develop and bring criminal cases when the misconduct warrants more severe action. "
There are lots of people in jail today because they broke IRS "regulations".
Can you give me some examples of broken IRS regulations that landed people in jail? Not paying your taxes doesn't count -- you must pay federal income tax, that is a law, not a regulation. So hopefully you are talking about something else?
They were found guilty of breaking a federal law in court and that verdict was upheld on appeal. Why do you think they are in court now? To determine the penalty for breaking the law.
Uhhh... you are talking about the anti-trust case, whereas I and the rest of the people on this thread are talking about the SEC investigation.
Seriously, isn't this whole idea pretty much useless without handwriting recognition?
No, a tablet already has many uses without handwriting recognition. Aside from the normal PC programs that can be used, you have a great form-factor for a nice webpad, a nice ebook.
I've seen nothing to suggest that anyone has that working yet...
Microsoft is well on the way to introducing hand-writing recognition in one of their upcoming OS's, which is one reason they are rolling these out now. I think there is more information about this technology on research.microsoft.com.
See, in the country I live in [www.gc.ca], we usually prosecute entities (people, companies) when they break the law. We don't just say, "well, don't do it again."
So do we. The thing is, Microsoft didn't break any laws here. But they may have broken some regulations enforced by the SEC.
This seems much more desirable than Tivo or Replay TV, because I control the hardware (no subscription fees).
You're paying a subscription fee for the program guide data that is downloaded, and upgrades to the software running on the TiVo. Where are you going to get your program guide data, how hard will it be to get it into your system and use it, and how correct is it going to be? I never have a problem with TiVo's guide data.
Besides, you may have control over the hardware, but my TiVo is incredibly cool and easy to use. I prefer that trade-off.
If Hauppage went broke or chose to stop supporting it, I can still use it in its present form (not true with Tivo).
Well I could still use TiVo, but it would be just a big VCR until someone comes along that can send guide data updates to it. Since so many other hacks have been done on TiVo already, I would be VERY surprised if a new hack wasn't released to allow this to happen somehow (scraping guide data from some other service). The main reason no one is working on this for TiVo now is because most of the hackers that mess with TiVo respect the company enough to leave things alone which would cause TiVo to lose money (and go out of business).
And if TiVo ever does go out of business, you can bet your sweet bippy there will be companies lined up to take them over. Imagine being able to buy TiVo for pennies on the dollar at a bankruptcy sale, and have all their subscribers and technology, without any of their debt?
The Internet was created by the DOD [zakon.org], part of the evil statist socialist government.
No, the backbone of the early internet, and the initial sites, were FUNDED by the government, and created by many private companies that bid for the contracts. Then the internet EXPLODED when the capitalist market started to see the potential for it. None of which would have happened had our government truly created and ruled over the internet, as would have happened in the USSR or China. (The closest we'll ever come to a communist/socialist government.)
This is what capitalism does, people - it tends to monopoly, and restricts human development.
Yes, let's look back at the golden age of Communist Radio! Where popular music is replaced by government propaganda.
And if you tell me that a true communist country has yet to be seen, I will barf.
Yeah, so the small radio stations sold to the big guys, and clear channel has a monopoly. If they abuse the monopoly, the could be facing trouble down the road.
In the meantime, our CAPITALIST markets helped create this thing called the Internet, and it is already being used to compete against the radio stations. (Socialist MP3 traders notwithstanding.)
Hi, I work for the record company, you are the purchasing supervisor for all the YYY chain of record stores. We know that the backstreet boys are selling well, so if you still want us to ship you the CD's at (insert discount prices), then you also MUST buy 10,000 copies of RANDOM_NEW_BAND. Don't like the deal? then fine you lose your discount on the Backstreet Boys CD.
First of all, there is a HUGE difference between getting a new band on the shelf in small numbers, and "buying a multi-platinum" rating by somehow forcing millions of CD's into the retail channel, as the the guy that started this thread claims.
And you have as much proof as the other person arguing. My brother works for one of the largets bands in the country. Wow, that's solid proof right there.
I don't have to prove anything. The billboard charts have been a standard way of ranking album sales for DECADES. If someone can prove it's a sham, they would of done so by now. If the guy that started this thread wants to spout his bullshit about how the rankings are bought by the labels, then let him show us the proof (Devo quotes aside).
Of course they see sales numbers.. But those numbers have absolutely nothing to do with how many albums their label ships. Tell your brother who works for "one of the biggest rock bands in the country" that his record label decides in advance wether or not their album will go gold, platinum, or quadruple-platinum, usually before the album is even recorded. The record company doesnt care if the CDs end up in the bargain rack. If they want to have an act "go quadruple platinum", its because they ship the album in that quantity, not because it actually sells in that quantity.
Don't be a friggin idiot. You didn't think anyone here could call you on this, and I did. Do you think the labels could (or would?) ship platinum levels of these CD's to retailers, to have them sit in the bins? Do you think the retailers would continue buying, week after week, as their bargain racks get filled up with this same CD?
The stores aren't going to keep buying it if it ain't selling! Duh.
You act like it's free to ship 10 million CD's for the label, and it's free for the stores to acquire these 10 million CD's.
Its been an established practice in the recording industry for decades.
Uhh yeah, an established practice with no proof whatsoever (or even LOGIC).
Hell, i've got a damn Devo video from '79 that even makes a joking reference to that practice...
Wow, I stand corrected! A reference from Devo! Solid proof if I've ever heard it.
Record Label A pays $X,XXX,XXX to rent the #2 position for a week, to promote their artist, while Record Label B pays $X,XXX,XXX for #4, #11, #24 and so on, and so on.. Its carved up like a pie with the best slice given to the highest bidder. Wake up.
This is bullshit folks. My brother works with one of the biggest rock bands in the country, and hangs out with the guys in the band. He is good friends with the guy that manages the band, and gets to see the exact sales numbers each week. The billboard charts are absolutely legit.
The burden of proof is on you, if you want to dispute the validity of a standard chart like that.
C) This is neither news for nerds, nor stuff that matters. I just opened a site for the Linux community, to give them a place to share desktop themes without all the foo-foo bullshit of Freshmeat/Themes.org. I tried submitting the opening announcement here no less than 3 times, and had it rejected every time. Meanwhile, you want to tell your Oprah book club about controversy that isn't really a controversy. You running a infomercial site now, Rob?
Sounds like you'd rather he allow you to post your infomercial, so why are you bitching? I'd much rather read about a possibly large case of internet piracy than YATS (yet another theme site).
For example, the MS Intellimouse Explorer which is double the size of a standard mouse...
I presume you are talking about a real, live animal mouse, because my Intellimouse Explorer is only slightly larger than a regular computer mouse.
nice at start, but a small mouse just fits better...
Richard Gere once said the same thing, but seriously folks, this reminds me of that Simpsons episode where Maude Flanders is trying to reach inside the windmill at the putt-putt course.
"Todd, you have small, girlish hands, see if you can reach it!"
In other words... maybe smaller mice fit you better because you have small, girlish hands?
Now, it seems to me that if you're going to all spend your time whining and moaning about how there's no gurls to be found except ugly apes (and even if there were, they'd wreck everything, 'cause they have the cooties), you're going to annoy those of us that are smart, geeky, and reasonably pretty. This creates a self-fulfilling prophecy: you whine; we avoid you.
Hear, hear!
And I would personally like to offer up my house for a party for all those young ladies you speak of. You're invited too, but you'll have to foot the expense of flying to Orlando.
Because when they finally get it working right, with a really high degree of accuracy, then it'll positively identify me, and I'll be allowed to exercise my rights to have and bear arms on an airline for the purpose of forming a well ordered militia.
The second ammendment apparantly also gives you the right to remain ignorant. Any guns brought on board would need to be specially designed for that purpose, so as not to create holes in the aircraft when YOU MISS your target (or completely penetrate).
Not only that, but the main argument against arming people on board planes is that it makes it just a WEEEEE bit easier for a terrorist to bring arms on the plane or steal them from guys like you.
I'm still trying to figure out how the chinese are taking credit for what magicians did a long time ago... I mean, who here hasn't thrown that white powder into a toilet to turn all the water in it into a solid gel?
It's worth it to see the look on your roommates face when his poop is floating on top of the "water."
Makes me wish we had a satellite dish PVR instead. At least then we wouldn't be dependent on phone calls to keep our PVR working.
Add TiVoNET or TurboNET or AirNET or whatever else is currently available for TiVo to add ethernet networking to it, and connect it to your PC to share it's internet connection, or to a hub or switch if you already have a home LAN.
No more phone calls needed as long as you're already online.
In that sense, the reserved space affects my regular space, and that of anybody who purchases the box, because only so much "space" fits in a given box.
The space is reserved for TiVo's use. They also have their operating system and other proprietary stuff on the disk. Should they take those off so you can fit more video on? Or are they already delivering what they promised (*APPROXIMATELY* 15-30 hours of video).
Check your box. It doesn't say you get EXACTLY that number of hours, and now you know one of the reasons why. (The other reason being the quality of your recordings, whether you're using VBR, etc.)
On 60 seconds notice, a forced program changes the channel and loses the previous program buffer. Goodbye, user option to review what they might have missed
Are you positive this is how it works? I know it does this when the live TV is being played, but I never read where it works the same way when it's paused on live TV. That would surprise me, if true.
Thank you, I'll take the product that you can't reprogram remotely. The one that works for me.
Obviously you must be talking about a regular old VCR. Sorry, but I don't consider those things as working for me, more like working against me. Which is why I own a TiVo.
The only people bitching about this are the people that don't even own a fucking TiVO! WTF!
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Oh contraire - "regulations" are in fact so close to law that mere mortals can't tell the difference.
;)
Who said I'm a mere mortal?
Regulations correctly issued by government agencies have "the force and effect of law" until overturned by a court of legislated out existence by Congress.
The SEC is a government body that REGULATES the exchange of stock. They can fine you or your company for breaking the SEC regulations. They can do things to your public stock. They can cause you or your company to be criminally investigated, but they themselves are not able to put people in jail.
From their site:
"While the SEC has civil enforcement authority only, it works closely with various criminal law enforcement agencies throughout the country to develop and bring criminal cases when the misconduct warrants more severe action. "
There are lots of people in jail today because they broke IRS "regulations".
Can you give me some examples of broken IRS regulations that landed people in jail? Not paying your taxes doesn't count -- you must pay federal income tax, that is a law, not a regulation. So hopefully you are talking about something else?
They were found guilty of breaking a federal law in court and that verdict was upheld on appeal. Why do you think they are in court now? To determine the penalty for breaking the law.
Uhhh... you are talking about the anti-trust case, whereas I and the rest of the people on this thread are talking about the SEC investigation.
Found this large picture on Microsoft's Tablet PC image gallery:
Compaq Tablet PC Design Concept
Here is Compaq's page which talks about this thing.
(Remember kids, it's not karma-whoring if you're already at 50.)
Seriously, isn't this whole idea pretty much useless without handwriting recognition?
No, a tablet already has many uses without handwriting recognition. Aside from the normal PC programs that can be used, you have a great form-factor for a nice webpad, a nice ebook.
I've seen nothing to suggest that anyone has that working yet...
Microsoft is well on the way to introducing hand-writing recognition in one of their upcoming OS's, which is one reason they are rolling these out now. I think there is more information about this technology on research.microsoft.com.
See, in the country I live in [www.gc.ca], we usually prosecute entities (people, companies) when they break the law. We don't just say, "well, don't do it again."
So do we. The thing is, Microsoft didn't break any laws here. But they may have broken some regulations enforced by the SEC.
You know how to write English. Have you ever read an entire dictionary?
This has been in The Jargon Lexicon [tuxedo.org] for ages. Don't all slashdotters know of it?
I must have missed the part on this site where it says, "YOU MUST READ THE ENTIRE JARGON LEXICON BEFORE READING SLASHDOT."
If you're pirating satellite, you're still probably watching the ads!
This seems much more desirable than Tivo or Replay TV, because I control the hardware (no subscription fees).
You're paying a subscription fee for the program guide data that is downloaded, and upgrades to the software running on the TiVo. Where are you going to get your program guide data, how hard will it be to get it into your system and use it, and how correct is it going to be? I never have a problem with TiVo's guide data.
Besides, you may have control over the hardware, but my TiVo is incredibly cool and easy to use. I prefer that trade-off.
If Hauppage went broke or chose to stop supporting it, I can still use it in its present form (not true with Tivo).
Well I could still use TiVo, but it would be just a big VCR until someone comes along that can send guide data updates to it. Since so many other hacks have been done on TiVo already, I would be VERY surprised if a new hack wasn't released to allow this to happen somehow (scraping guide data from some other service). The main reason no one is working on this for TiVo now is because most of the hackers that mess with TiVo respect the company enough to leave things alone which would cause TiVo to lose money (and go out of business).
And if TiVo ever does go out of business, you can bet your sweet bippy there will be companies lined up to take them over. Imagine being able to buy TiVo for pennies on the dollar at a bankruptcy sale, and have all their subscribers and technology, without any of their debt?
The Internet was created by the DOD [zakon.org], part of the evil statist socialist government.
No, the backbone of the early internet, and the initial sites, were FUNDED by the government, and created by many private companies that bid for the contracts. Then the internet EXPLODED when the capitalist market started to see the potential for it. None of which would have happened had our government truly created and ruled over the internet, as would have happened in the USSR or China. (The closest we'll ever come to a communist/socialist government.)
This is what capitalism does, people - it tends to monopoly, and restricts human development.
Yes, let's look back at the golden age of Communist Radio! Where popular music is replaced by government propaganda.
And if you tell me that a true communist country has yet to be seen, I will barf.
Yeah, so the small radio stations sold to the big guys, and clear channel has a monopoly. If they abuse the monopoly, the could be facing trouble down the road.
In the meantime, our CAPITALIST markets helped create this thing called the Internet, and it is already being used to compete against the radio stations. (Socialist MP3 traders notwithstanding.)
Would there be any harm in doing this?
You mean aside from the Slashdot article that will be posted slamming George Lucas for being so greedy as to "make us buy all three DVD sets."
...make changes to his own movie!
Hi, I work for the record company, you are the purchasing supervisor for all the YYY chain of record stores. We know that the backstreet boys are selling well, so if you still want us to ship you the CD's at (insert discount prices), then you also MUST buy 10,000 copies of RANDOM_NEW_BAND. Don't like the deal? then fine you lose your discount on the Backstreet Boys CD.
First of all, there is a HUGE difference between getting a new band on the shelf in small numbers, and "buying a multi-platinum" rating by somehow forcing millions of CD's into the retail channel, as the the guy that started this thread claims.
And you have as much proof as the other person arguing. My brother works for one of the largets bands in the country. Wow, that's solid proof right there.
I don't have to prove anything. The billboard charts have been a standard way of ranking album sales for DECADES. If someone can prove it's a sham, they would of done so by now. If the guy that started this thread wants to spout his bullshit about how the rankings are bought by the labels, then let him show us the proof (Devo quotes aside).
Of course they see sales numbers.. But those numbers have absolutely nothing to do with how many albums their label ships. Tell your brother who works for "one of the biggest rock bands in the country" that his record label decides in advance wether or not their album will go gold, platinum, or quadruple-platinum, usually before the album is even recorded. The record company doesnt care if the CDs end up in the bargain rack. If they want to have an act "go quadruple platinum", its because they ship the album in that quantity, not because it actually sells in that quantity.
Don't be a friggin idiot. You didn't think anyone here could call you on this, and I did. Do you think the labels could (or would?) ship platinum levels of these CD's to retailers, to have them sit in the bins? Do you think the retailers would continue buying, week after week, as their bargain racks get filled up with this same CD?
The stores aren't going to keep buying it if it ain't selling! Duh.
You act like it's free to ship 10 million CD's for the label, and it's free for the stores to acquire these 10 million CD's.
Its been an established practice in the recording industry for decades.
Uhh yeah, an established practice with no proof whatsoever (or even LOGIC).
Hell, i've got a damn Devo video from '79 that even makes a joking reference to that practice...
Wow, I stand corrected! A reference from Devo! Solid proof if I've ever heard it.
Record Label A pays $X,XXX,XXX to rent the #2 position for a week, to promote their artist, while Record Label B pays $X,XXX,XXX for #4, #11, #24 and so on, and so on.. Its carved up like a pie with the best slice given to the highest bidder. Wake up.
This is bullshit folks. My brother works with one of the biggest rock bands in the country, and hangs out with the guys in the band. He is good friends with the guy that manages the band, and gets to see the exact sales numbers each week. The billboard charts are absolutely legit.
The burden of proof is on you, if you want to dispute the validity of a standard chart like that.
C) This is neither news for nerds, nor stuff that matters. I just opened a site for the Linux community, to give them a place to share desktop themes without all the foo-foo bullshit of Freshmeat/Themes.org. I tried submitting the opening announcement here no less than 3 times, and had it rejected every time. Meanwhile, you want to tell your Oprah book club about controversy that isn't really a controversy. You running a infomercial site now, Rob?
Sounds like you'd rather he allow you to post your infomercial, so why are you bitching? I'd much rather read about a possibly large case of internet piracy than YATS (yet another theme site).
BTW, I checked out your site, and it sucks.
Now that's a flame.
For example, the MS Intellimouse Explorer which is double the size of a standard mouse...
I presume you are talking about a real, live animal mouse, because my Intellimouse Explorer is only slightly larger than a regular computer mouse.
nice at start, but a small mouse just fits better...
Richard Gere once said the same thing, but seriously folks, this reminds me of that Simpsons episode where Maude Flanders is trying to reach inside the windmill at the putt-putt course.
"Todd, you have small, girlish hands, see if you can reach it!"
In other words... maybe smaller mice fit you better because you have small, girlish hands?
Now, it seems to me that if you're going to all spend your time whining and moaning about how there's no gurls to be found except ugly apes (and even if there were, they'd wreck everything, 'cause they have the cooties), you're going to annoy those of us that are smart, geeky, and reasonably pretty. This creates a self-fulfilling prophecy: you whine; we avoid you.
Hear, hear!
And I would personally like to offer up my house for a party for all those young ladies you speak of. You're invited too, but you'll have to foot the expense of flying to Orlando.
Only $525 to see a webmaster talk about nothing?
Whaddadeal!
Because when they finally get it working right, with a really high degree of accuracy, then it'll positively identify me, and I'll be allowed to exercise my rights to have and bear arms on an airline for the purpose of forming a well ordered militia.
The second ammendment apparantly also gives you the right to remain ignorant. Any guns brought on board would need to be specially designed for that purpose, so as not to create holes in the aircraft when YOU MISS your target (or completely penetrate).
Not only that, but the main argument against arming people on board planes is that it makes it just a WEEEEE bit easier for a terrorist to bring arms on the plane or steal them from guys like you.
I'd post messages like this on Slashdot.
I'm still trying to figure out how the chinese are taking credit for what magicians did a long time ago... I mean, who here hasn't thrown that white powder into a toilet to turn all the water in it into a solid gel?
It's worth it to see the look on your roommates face when his poop is floating on top of the "water."
Makes me wish we had a satellite dish PVR instead. At least then we wouldn't be dependent on phone calls to keep our PVR working.
Add TiVoNET or TurboNET or AirNET or whatever else is currently available for TiVo to add ethernet networking to it, and connect it to your PC to share it's internet connection, or to a hub or switch if you already have a home LAN.
No more phone calls needed as long as you're already online.
In that sense, the reserved space affects my regular space, and that of anybody who purchases the box, because only so much "space" fits in a given box.
The space is reserved for TiVo's use. They also have their operating system and other proprietary stuff on the disk. Should they take those off so you can fit more video on? Or are they already delivering what they promised (*APPROXIMATELY* 15-30 hours of video).
Check your box. It doesn't say you get EXACTLY that number of hours, and now you know one of the reasons why. (The other reason being the quality of your recordings, whether you're using VBR, etc.)
On 60 seconds notice, a forced program changes the channel and loses the previous program buffer. Goodbye, user option to review what they might have missed
Are you positive this is how it works? I know it does this when the live TV is being played, but I never read where it works the same way when it's paused on live TV. That would surprise me, if true.
Thank you, I'll take the product that you can't reprogram remotely. The one that works for me.
Obviously you must be talking about a regular old VCR. Sorry, but I don't consider those things as working for me, more like working against me. Which is why I own a TiVo.
The only people bitching about this are the people that don't even own a fucking TiVO! WTF!