This is good thinking. Allthough i have been a long time SuSE user (you can tell by my spelling:-) but with the recent developments i think that the only other viable alternative (sorry Mandrake) for the future will be a single base on which commercial companies can build their own desktop distro. This way all base functionality remains available for everyone.
a BMG spokesman: "All copy-protections can be hacked, but if (we) give people what they are asking for in terms of value, they won't go out and steal it. It's called trusting the consumer."
Did you even RTFA? This Wiser character you quoted is "Sony Music Chief Technology Officer Phil Wiser." according to TFA. Nice to see even submitters are not feeling obliged to actually READ something.
Anyway, this is also bringing in a new more serious problem.. according to the article the copyprotected content "will only play on Sony-licensed digital music players. "
This has some serious implications. For starters, you can throw out your existing mp3 player. Of course this only is for the extra content so the actual music is not limited but the extra's offered on the cd is.
Despite the concerns, work on lethal new pox viruses seems likely to continue in the US. When members of the audience in Geneva questioned the need for such experiments, an American voice in the back boomed out: "Nine-eleven". There were murmurs of agreement.
What has 9/11 to do with this? Could this virus have prevented the attack? Or any biological/chemical weapon for that matter?
9/11 has been used as an excuse for too long now to have any real meaning.
Americans have given up alot of privacy for nothing (as most allready know). The rest of the world has been ordered by the USA to change identification documents or face economical consequences, hand over flight information (including information which has nothing to do with the possibility of being a terrorist), Iraq have been invaded with this as an excuse whil everyone and their mother know right now that there has been no evidence of Iraq being involved with 9/11 and people are still being bombarded with laws and organisations that are supposedly to stop another attack.
Now, what advantage does tying up with Veritas give a Linux distro firm? Backups? That should be a very minor market segment, even among Corporate users.
Ever stopped to consider how much money is in this segment? How important it is to have a backup solution which is secure, scalable and trustable in a million bussiness?
The fact that Veritas bought up the backup part of Seagate's software and that they have strong ties with Windows doesn't mean that they are up to some "sly" stuff... As a matter of fact, i couldn't think of anything for that matter.
They see an emerging market, Linux, which is needing strong products to back it up in corporate userland. Any company would immediately jump to it.
It's not as if they never supported any other kind of OS. They have supported (and still do) Novell Netware next to Windows. Their agents are available for different Unix versions (including Linux for some time now, databases (oracle and SQL server), messaging systems (Exchange and Lotus Notes) and many other corporate tools. Many of which compete directly with MS software. Oh.. by the way, they also boast the fact that they surpassed Microsoft in supplying clustering and availability products. Not something you would expect from a MS serf would you?
Probably the most replys will be about the spyware in kazaa.
This was added by Sharman Networks and was never intended when the original developers made kazaa. They sold it to an interested company (Sharman Networks) which in it's turn abused it.
Second, kazaa was not intended as a tool for illegal fileswapping. It got abused for that because it was possible.
That being said, Skype looks promising if they make the crossplatform thing work (SIP and POTS).
Hopefully they will be able to churn out a Linux and Mac version as well. This could be a good thing for VoIP. But then again, the competition isn't making any big inroads either...
After reading his resume and noticing he worked for NASA in the late sixties and has been working up until now, i think he's more your dad...
Back to school is probably not the right track for him, although a rejuvenation treatment probably is..
Brings us back to the old problem of older, more experienced employees (and mostly more expensive) versus younger, cheaper employees (and mostly less experienced).
Could be of course that they do not adhere the same conclusion. Speculative science can not produce a conclusion on a subject. And this is speculative science at best.
The FSF isn't out to put the ultimate distro or OS in the market. They are about Free software. Whether this software runs on Linux, BSD, The HURD, Windows or any other OS. The efforts that they would have to put into creating and maintaining their own distro would better be directed elsewhere. Further more, GNU/LinEx isn't a noname distro. It may be small but in Europe and spanish speaking territory it's well known. There are alot of distro's out there who do not have a widespread name yet are good and sometimes even better then those well known. So before dissing any product test it out yourself instead of waiting to be spoonfed. That's also a very important part of Free software. Try it out yourself. If it doesn't work for you check another solution or roll your own. The beauty of it is that you can take the sourcecode of the package you have and build or improve upon that if you cannot find a viable solution.
As far as you comment of him failing to fullfill your needs, i think you do not understand the goal of the FSF. The FSF isn't there to write a free replacement of every piece of software ever written. They are mainly providing you the tools to do this yourself. If you think they should write everything then i'm afraid your in for a big dissapointment.
Perhaps we did not bring it upon ourselves. But we are sure helping mother nature to achive her goals sooner.
I think this is what you could call a convergence of coincidenses (or something like that). Nature is warming up but is being sped up by mankinds concoctions. Environmental scientists seem to agree that the speed of the climatic change is what is not normal. So basicly instead of having a climatic change over a period of 400 years we now have one over a period of 100 years.
Okay, thank you for pointing out the obvious. If you know what we need to do to promote it outside of the geek scope why don't you help out or give some advice instead of just whining about it...
This is not meant to insult you. Just that i am sick of all those people calling any kind of project a failure because it doesn't cater to the right people but do not want to change a thing about it.
Please, put up or shut up.
As for your other comments, yes, you're right. IPv4 to IPv6 transition will only be successfull if it is completely transparent. And that's not a problem. Not because it needs to be but because it will be. Future OS's will support it out of the box. As will new hardware.
The only reason why it hasn't yet replaced IPv4 is because hardware like routers, switches etc. without support for IPv6 are still widely used and need to be replaced or reconfigured which is a costly affair. And since the Internet is mainly a bunch of routers switches etc. (aside from the obvious servers) this could take a while. In the meantime people can start using IPv6 and experiment with it. This would give a strong signal to companies to speed up the transition. And yes, it only needs to be sped up since the transition to IPv6 is allready going on, albeit slowly.
This could all be correct, i don't know any of these cases myself, but what has this to do with what AMD wants? If the Vandermark car was fitted with third party brakes which were not placed in it by the manufacturer and for which the manufacturer does not know if it will function correctly with the car would the outcome have been the same?
All AMD says here is that they cannot guarantee that their product will work with thirdparty cooling solutions and when applied they will not replace any defective unit because they cannot be sure it wasn't due to the third parties product.
Sounds very reasonable to me. I wouldn't like being held responsible for what someone else does to my products. If i created something and someone else extends it or replaces a part of it with something else i cannot be held responsible for any outcome of it's use.
ILM developed its proprietary file format, OpenEXR
Hmm.. i sense a trend in calling things open when they are actually closed. This is eroding the intended meaning of "Open" in front of fileformats or products.
Why not cutting out the middleman. The RIAA and their foreign counterparts are there because in the past there was no easy way to distribute recordings without having to travel around the world to sell your songs and keeping track of your royalties. With the internet that part is easily solved.
Besides, recording in itself is made possible for everyone due to computer technologies. You don't have to let your songs pressed at a plant anymore. Simply distribute by means of mp3 or any other audio format which you like. This way the artist finally gets payed a decent amount of royalties without some overgrown organisation eating it all.
If it is possible to test this thing out with decent artists (or popular artists, whichever comes first) it could be considered a correct test and results would actually mean something.
But i'm afraid the record companies won't be jumping up and down with joy to actually test this....;-)
And as far as marketing is considered, the internet has shown to be a remarkably good medium to spread things that are considered good in both the quality and ideology sense of the word.
Why bother? You seem to have your mind made up allready.
If you are not interested in an environment which is more stable, faster, gets the most out of your hardware then why would i put my time into converting you. If you are only interested in using name brand software (Adobe and Macromedia are) then hey, please stay with your current setup.
If you would like to explore new ways, tools and software and if you aren't afraid of investing time into learning new tricks then i would probably invite you to give the new versions of the popular distro's a look. But not until then.
Most of us started out with little or no knowledge besides windows/dos/mac. But eventually we learned . Either through trial and error, reading books or asking for help from those "in the know". It's all a matter of wanting to know, not being forced to do so.
Like the reply to the previous poster; Integration
SUN developed an entire suite of applications that integrate with each other. So Jabber isn't a contender in this particular case, if one chooses the rest of the suite that is.
What's next: radio controlled dog collars that shock you until your homework is done, or if you cut class.
On behalve of our schoolboard i thank you for this luminous idea. We will begin exploring the legal implications of this measure immediatly. Do you have any problems with us naming our new control room building "scorp1us"?
It's really relaxed. The basic things are in there like anti-spam clauses and such.
It even goes so far as to state in a seperate document what kind of information is being kept and why.
It even has a clause stating that it is ALLOWED to try and hack their own servers. If you succeed and gain admin rights you are given 6 months free service under the strict rules that you disclose your methods and tools used to achieve this.
Perhaps this TOS should be made mandatory for any ISP....;-)
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This is good thinking. Allthough i have been a long time SuSE user (you can tell by my spelling :-) but with the recent developments i think that the only other viable alternative (sorry Mandrake) for the future will be a single base on which commercial companies can build their own desktop distro. This way all base functionality remains available for everyone.
a BMG spokesman: "All copy-protections can be hacked, but if (we) give people what they are asking for in terms of value, they won't go out and steal it. It's called trusting the consumer."
Did you even RTFA? This Wiser character you quoted is "Sony Music Chief Technology Officer Phil Wiser." according to TFA. Nice to see even submitters are not feeling obliged to actually READ something.
Anyway, this is also bringing in a new more serious problem.. according to the article the copyprotected content "will only play on Sony-licensed digital music players. "
This has some serious implications. For starters, you can throw out your existing mp3 player. Of course this only is for the extra content so the actual music is not limited but the extra's offered on the cd is.
Despite the concerns, work on lethal new pox viruses seems likely to continue in the US. When members of the audience in Geneva questioned the need for such experiments, an American voice in the back boomed out: "Nine-eleven". There were murmurs of agreement.
What has 9/11 to do with this? Could this virus have prevented the attack? Or any biological/chemical weapon for that matter?
9/11 has been used as an excuse for too long now to have any real meaning.
Americans have given up alot of privacy for nothing (as most allready know). The rest of the world has been ordered by the USA to change identification documents or face economical consequences, hand over flight information (including information which has nothing to do with the possibility of being a terrorist), Iraq have been invaded with this as an excuse whil everyone and their mother know right now that there has been no evidence of Iraq being involved with 9/11 and people are still being bombarded with laws and organisations that are supposedly to stop another attack.
Now, what advantage does tying up with Veritas give a Linux distro firm? Backups? That should be a very minor market segment, even among Corporate users.
Ever stopped to consider how much money is in this segment? How important it is to have a backup solution which is secure, scalable and trustable in a million bussiness?
The fact that Veritas bought up the backup part of Seagate's software and that they have strong ties with Windows doesn't mean that they are up to some "sly" stuff... As a matter of fact, i couldn't think of anything for that matter.
They see an emerging market, Linux, which is needing strong products to back it up in corporate userland. Any company would immediately jump to it.
It's not as if they never supported any other kind of OS. They have supported (and still do) Novell Netware next to Windows. Their agents are available for different Unix versions (including Linux for some time now, databases (oracle and SQL server), messaging systems (Exchange and Lotus Notes) and many other corporate tools. Many of which compete directly with MS software. Oh.. by the way, they also boast the fact that they surpassed Microsoft in supplying clustering and availability products. Not something you would expect from a MS serf would you?
Perhaps you should have changed the values on the migration tab as well...
Funny... the cached article is not the one you would get at the site.. this is just one page while the article on the site is on two pages.
Also some text is clearly different..
Probably the most replys will be about the spyware in kazaa.
This was added by Sharman Networks and was never intended when the original developers made kazaa. They sold it to an interested company (Sharman Networks) which in it's turn abused it.
Second, kazaa was not intended as a tool for illegal fileswapping. It got abused for that because it was possible.
That being said, Skype looks promising if they make the crossplatform thing work (SIP and POTS).
Hopefully they will be able to churn out a Linux and Mac version as well. This could be a good thing for VoIP. But then again, the competition isn't making any big inroads either...
After reading his resume and noticing he worked for NASA in the late sixties and has been working up until now, i think he's more your dad...
Back to school is probably not the right track for him, although a rejuvenation treatment probably is..
Brings us back to the old problem of older, more experienced employees (and mostly more expensive) versus younger, cheaper employees (and mostly less experienced).
One of the problems is that, with MS'track record for issuing bug ridden patches, it's not always advisable to immediatly patch your systems.
Besides that, sometimes the patches are affecting applications which need to be tested before patching all systems.
Could be of course that they do not adhere the same conclusion. Speculative science can not produce a conclusion on a subject. And this is speculative science at best.
You're absolutely right..
a) Relax, everyone's in the same boat as you, open a beer while it's cool and put on some music.
Wow... you got a live acoustical band at your disposal?
The FSF isn't out to put the ultimate distro or OS in the market. They are about Free software. Whether this software runs on Linux, BSD, The HURD, Windows or any other OS. The efforts that they would have to put into creating and maintaining their own distro would better be directed elsewhere. Further more, GNU/LinEx isn't a noname distro. It may be small but in Europe and spanish speaking territory it's well known. There are alot of distro's out there who do not have a widespread name yet are good and sometimes even better then those well known. So before dissing any product test it out yourself instead of waiting to be spoonfed. That's also a very important part of Free software. Try it out yourself. If it doesn't work for you check another solution or roll your own. The beauty of it is that you can take the sourcecode of the package you have and build or improve upon that if you cannot find a viable solution.
As far as you comment of him failing to fullfill your needs, i think you do not understand the goal of the FSF. The FSF isn't there to write a free replacement of every piece of software ever written. They are mainly providing you the tools to do this yourself. If you think they should write everything then i'm afraid your in for a big dissapointment.
Perhaps we did not bring it upon ourselves. But we are sure helping mother nature to achive her goals sooner.
I think this is what you could call a convergence of coincidenses (or something like that). Nature is warming up but is being sped up by mankinds concoctions. Environmental scientists seem to agree that the speed of the climatic change is what is not normal. So basicly instead of having a climatic change over a period of 400 years we now have one over a period of 100 years.
Okay, thank you for pointing out the obvious. If you know what we need to do to promote it outside of the geek scope why don't you help out or give some advice instead of just whining about it...
This is not meant to insult you. Just that i am sick of all those people calling any kind of project a failure because it doesn't cater to the right people but do not want to change a thing about it.
Please, put up or shut up.
As for your other comments, yes, you're right. IPv4 to IPv6 transition will only be successfull if it is completely transparent. And that's not a problem. Not because it needs to be but because it will be. Future OS's will support it out of the box. As will new hardware.
The only reason why it hasn't yet replaced IPv4 is because hardware like routers, switches etc. without support for IPv6 are still widely used and need to be replaced or reconfigured which is a costly affair. And since the Internet is mainly a bunch of routers switches etc. (aside from the obvious servers) this could take a while. In the meantime people can start using IPv6 and experiment with it. This would give a strong signal to companies to speed up the transition. And yes, it only needs to be sped up since the transition to IPv6 is allready going on, albeit slowly.
This could all be correct, i don't know any of these cases myself, but what has this to do with what AMD wants? If the Vandermark car was fitted with third party brakes which were not placed in it by the manufacturer and for which the manufacturer does not know if it will function correctly with the car would the outcome have been the same?
All AMD says here is that they cannot guarantee that their product will work with thirdparty cooling solutions and when applied they will not replace any defective unit because they cannot be sure it wasn't due to the third parties product.
Sounds very reasonable to me. I wouldn't like being held responsible for what someone else does to my products. If i created something and someone else extends it or replaces a part of it with something else i cannot be held responsible for any outcome of it's use.
ILM developed its proprietary file format, OpenEXR
Hmm.. i sense a trend in calling things open when they are actually closed. This is eroding the intended meaning of "Open" in front of fileformats or products.
Why not cutting out the middleman. The RIAA and their foreign counterparts are there because in the past there was no easy way to distribute recordings without having to travel around the world to sell your songs and keeping track of your royalties. With the internet that part is easily solved.
;-)
Besides, recording in itself is made possible for everyone due to computer technologies. You don't have to let your songs pressed at a plant anymore. Simply distribute by means of mp3 or any other audio format which you like. This way the artist finally gets payed a decent amount of royalties without some overgrown organisation eating it all.
If it is possible to test this thing out with decent artists (or popular artists, whichever comes first) it could be considered a correct test and results would actually mean something.
But i'm afraid the record companies won't be jumping up and down with joy to actually test this....
And as far as marketing is considered, the internet has shown to be a remarkably good medium to spread things that are considered good in both the quality and ideology sense of the word.
Why bother? You seem to have your mind made up allready.
If you are not interested in an environment which is more stable, faster, gets the most out of your hardware then why would i put my time into converting you. If you are only interested in using name brand software (Adobe and Macromedia are) then hey, please stay with your current setup.
If you would like to explore new ways, tools and software and if you aren't afraid of investing time into learning new tricks then i would probably invite you to give the new versions of the popular distro's a look. But not until then.
Most of us started out with little or no knowledge besides windows/dos/mac. But eventually we learned . Either through trial and error, reading books or asking for help from those "in the know". It's all a matter of wanting to know, not being forced to do so.
Like the reply to the previous poster; Integration
SUN developed an entire suite of applications that integrate with each other. So Jabber isn't a contender in this particular case, if one chooses the rest of the suite that is.
What's next: radio controlled dog collars that shock you until your homework is done, or if you cut class.
On behalve of our schoolboard i thank you for this luminous idea. We will begin exploring the legal implications of this measure immediatly. Do you have any problems with us naming our new control room building "scorp1us"?
Yeah.. i would like to see them travel continents as well..
Hmmm.. forgot to link to the TOS and privacy statement. (both in dutch)
It's really relaxed. The basic things are in there like anti-spam clauses and such.
;-)
It even goes so far as to state in a seperate document what kind of information is being kept and why.
It even has a clause stating that it is ALLOWED to try and hack their own servers. If you succeed and gain admin rights you are given 6 months free service under the strict rules that you disclose your methods and tools used to achieve this.
Perhaps this TOS should be made mandatory for any ISP....
Isn't that a "users experience" ?