Linux is one of the most popular server platforms on the net, so the absense of results from that platform stands out like a sore thumb.
I wonder what this guy's point is, or what statement he's trying to make here, by pretending linux doesn't exist, while covering some relatively obscure platforms instead...
Actually Linux is already a decent gaming platform, the pool of available games just needs to be expanded.
The ignoramus who posted above would be surprised to find that a harcore Linux user like me is also an avid gamer - quake 3 arena, return to castle wolfenstein etc all smooth as silk on my linux system.
I don't want to go out and buy a win doze pee cee for games, I want more games ported to Linux! If a game is available only in a win doze version, I'm not interested, sorry.
And yes, I have not only 2 computers, I have 4 computers, one of them a laptop - but why would I want to put win doze on any of them? I'd rather not, thanks!
ac (and I can see why he doesn't want anybody to see the source of such inane drivel) says:
> You can't expect an entire office to convert > from using Word to TeX/LaTeX;
Hello? So, somebody told you that linux == latex, and you gullibly swallowed that?
Well, for the record linux != latex. tex/latex are cross platform - they are available even for windoze...
In the linux world, there are a number of ways to handle ms office docs. Abiword and gnumeric do a good job of handling basic ms-word and ms-excel docs - they are lightweight, with a nice feel, but not all the rare features are there. If you want the whole enchilada, there are star office, open office, hancom office and others. Folks, it's not even an issue anymore.
Sorry lil script kiddie - you'll likely break down in tears after knocking your head agaist the wall to break into the box via tux. ain't gonna happen.
BTW khttpd is one thing, tux is quite another.
khttpd was an experiment, and there has been talk of removing it from the mainstream kernel.
Tux OTOH is actively maintained by Red Hat & Ingo Molnar, and last time I checked it was the specweb champ for 1,2 and 4 way systems.
It blows away apache performance-wise, and uses less CPU time doing it.
Interestingly enough, I find that Nvidia provides not only the best video cards, but the best driver support for linux of any vendor - it's no contest.
While some may prefer that the nvidia drivers were open source, you can't argue with the results, and to me the most important thing is the quality - and nvidia has demonstrated that. If you look on their site, their are up-to-date, conveniently packaged binary and source rpms specifically for every major linux distro, or tarballs should you prefer that.
If there's ever been another vendor who even came close to that level of support I'd like to know about it.
Sheesh, I've been running low latency and/or preemptive patches for over a year. It's the only way to quake - that, and a good 3d video card. (used to run voodoo3, now I run nvidia geforce)
2ms says:
"I expect I'll be able to play QuakeIII with Mandrake 8.1"
Huh?
I've been playing Quake 3 arena since Red Hat 6.2,
though it was a bit of work to set up back then.
With 7.1 I didn't even have to download any drivers, or tweak any settings - Everything was autodetected during the install, and accelerated 3d worked on my voodoo 3 out of the box, ready to rock and roll!
In my workplace over the past few years I have noticed that print setup on a Red Hat or similar Linux system is a 1 minute affair. Just click on the printtool and input a few pieces of data in the dialog boxes and selection widgets, then click on "print test page" and we're good to go.
OTOH getting windoze pcs to print to the same printers was always a long and tedious exercise which required finding the "install CD" and trying to make sense of some conusing and misleading menu choices.
Give the me linux setup any day!
The guy who went off on the ignorant rant about how hard it is to set up a printer on a Linux system is obviously ignorant of the reality.
I noticed that rawhide has finally gone to the 2.4 kernel, and I just naturally assumed 7.0 would be 2.4 as well - but no, they are shipping the legacy kernel - yep, looks like 6.3 to me....
Looks like Caldera has leapfrogged them - Caldera's beta is shipping with 2.4-test.
major kernel upgrade, major X upgrade - sounds like 7.0 to me... 6.3 would be appropriate if they were sticking with the legacy 2.2 kernel rather than the new kernel that recently smashed all specweb99 benchmark records.
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Who needs direct x when we already have OpenGL?
What we need is not a port of the pee cee graphics standard, but games ported to linux.
BTW id software has done a great job of it ever since doom, and even the q3a engine that's in rtcw rocks on Linux. It's all OpenGL
I guess it's just fear, laziness and ignorance that keeps users on win doze, and keeps vendors in the win doze rut.
How bizzarre -
Linux is one of the most popular server platforms on the net, so the absense of results from that platform stands out like a sore thumb.
I wonder what this guy's point is, or what statement he's trying to make here, by pretending linux doesn't exist, while covering some relatively obscure platforms instead...
Actually Linux is already a decent gaming platform, the pool of available games just needs to be expanded.
The ignoramus who posted above would be surprised to find that a harcore Linux user like me is also an avid gamer - quake 3 arena, return to castle wolfenstein etc all smooth as silk on my linux system.
I don't want to go out and buy a win doze pee cee for games, I want more games ported to Linux! If a game is available only in a win doze version, I'm not interested, sorry.
And yes, I have not only 2 computers, I have 4 computers, one of them a laptop - but why would I want to put win doze on any of them? I'd rather not, thanks!
Keine mitleid fuer microsoft!
uh... let's see.
1. Install Red Hat 7.3
2. Download Nvidia drivers
3. Install according to instructions on website
Voila - accelerated 3D on Linux -
Q3A and RtCW run great!
(just what were you supposedly spending all this time on?)
ac (and I can see why he doesn't want anybody to see the source of such inane drivel) says:
> You can't expect an entire office to convert
> from using Word to TeX/LaTeX;
Hello? So, somebody told you that linux == latex, and you gullibly swallowed that?
Well, for the record linux != latex. tex/latex are cross platform - they are available even for windoze...
In the linux world, there are a number of ways to handle ms office docs. Abiword and gnumeric do a good job of handling basic ms-word and ms-excel docs - they are lightweight, with a nice feel, but not all the rare features are there. If you want the whole enchilada, there are star office, open office, hancom office and others. Folks, it's not even an issue anymore.
Sorry lil script kiddie - you'll likely break down in tears after knocking your head agaist the wall to break into the box via tux. ain't gonna happen.
BTW khttpd is one thing, tux is quite another.
khttpd was an experiment, and there has been talk of removing it from the mainstream kernel.
Tux OTOH is actively maintained by Red Hat & Ingo Molnar, and last time I checked it was the specweb champ for 1,2 and 4 way systems.
It blows away apache performance-wise, and uses less CPU time doing it.
"Incidentally, the DUL is currently stopping CmdrTaco from directly emailing one of the Slash coders."
um, no - in this case, use your ISP's mail server.
Problem solved.
Interestingly enough, I find that Nvidia provides not only the best video cards, but the best driver support for linux of any vendor - it's no contest.
While some may prefer that the nvidia drivers were open source, you can't argue with the results, and to me the most important thing is the quality - and nvidia has demonstrated that. If you look on their site, their are up-to-date, conveniently packaged binary and source rpms specifically for every major linux distro, or tarballs should you prefer that.
If there's ever been another vendor who even came close to that level of support I'd like to know about it.
Not sure what's funny, but it's not likely.
I find gaming on Linux quite satisfactory - as it turns out, the games I like (q3a, RtCW) run on Linux, and run quite well.
but never fear, you'll still be able to play games on your windoze pee cee....
hmm, sounds like a troll - and not even a skillful one.
I just went there - no problem...
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.9+) Gecko/20020324
(shrug) what's an xbox?
I find this interesting and useful.
I hope it works out and catches on - if so it would be a much better programming target than whatever ms is hyping at any given time.
Yes, Virginia, there are gamers who don't even _own_ a windoze pee cee, and would rather not be pressured to obtain one just to play the latest game.
Sheesh, I've been running low latency and/or preemptive patches for over a year. It's the only way to quake - that, and a good 3d video card.
(used to run voodoo3, now I run nvidia geforce)
Without a doubt: Return to castle wolfenstein -
The large, detailed batlefields are stunningly beautiful.
RtCW gives me that old rush I remember from when doom first came out.
Runner up: quake 3 arena
2ms says: "I expect I'll be able to play QuakeIII with Mandrake 8.1" Huh? I've been playing Quake 3 arena since Red Hat 6.2, though it was a bit of work to set up back then. With 7.1 I didn't even have to download any drivers, or tweak any settings - Everything was autodetected during the install, and accelerated 3d worked on my voodoo 3 out of the box, ready to rock and roll!
Why on earth would you use windoze for quake 3 arena?
I have linux and windows 2000 - I use windoze when I have to deal with some pesky legacy file format such as an exquisitely formated ms word doc -
for everything else, I use Linux.
I have to say, with a voodoo3 and the 2.4 kernel, Linux kicks some major q3a booty...
Then it wasn't set up properly after all.
OTOH getting windoze pcs to print to the same printers was always a long and tedious exercise which required finding the "install CD" and trying to make sense of some conusing and misleading menu choices.
Give the me linux setup any day!
The guy who went off on the ignorant rant about how hard it is to set up a printer on a Linux system is obviously ignorant of the reality.
I enter my handle and password, and wait.
(about 30 seconds of "connecting to server"...)
I close aim, and fire up gaim. blam, instant connection.
close gaim, fire up aim - again, aim never connected.
close aim, fire up gaim. blam, instant connection.
hmm, I think I see a pattern here
Kind of a shame, you'd think the aol guys could create a working version...
I noticed that rawhide has finally gone to the 2.4 kernel, and I just naturally assumed 7.0 would be 2.4 as well - but no, they are shipping the legacy kernel - yep, looks like 6.3 to me....
Looks like Caldera has leapfrogged them - Caldera's beta is shipping with 2.4-test.
major kernel upgrade, major X upgrade - sounds like 7.0 to me... 6.3 would be appropriate if they were sticking with the legacy 2.2 kernel rather than the new kernel that recently smashed all specweb99 benchmark records.
It looks like they are running weblogic - Maybe they need to switch to apache?
A more realistic comparison would be:
~$800 imac
~$400 comparable Linux-capable intel box
Draw your own conclusions!
I mean it's great that they ported the server, but did they ever imagine that a Linux user might also want to read his email , not just run a server?