Because the indentation require aligns with what you naturally do as a programmer, it hasn't seemed all that problematic to me.
No, just a survivable wart. If Python did not have significant whitespace, nobody would miss it, but Python having significant whitespace has caused endless complaints, so it is clearly a negative for the language. Other things being equal, fewer warts is better.
I see that exactly no major new language projects have chosen to follow Python lead with whitespace. Or to put it another way, if Python had been defined with curlies, nobody would have complained "we want significant whitespace! Please please!".
I've used Python on very, very large projects that have undergone multiple, massive refactorings and I'm not aware of a single time in a refactor that this was an issue.
It's those wrongly refactored lines you aren't aware of that will seriously bite you in the ass.
"One sure sign your language is successful: When people build other languages that transpile into it."
Funny, I interpret that more as "your language is fundamentally flawed but you have a captive audience forced to write in it so they try to make the best of it."
nuclear power "does better in a socialist economy than in a capitalist one, because nuclear energy prefers to have the public do the cleanup, do the insurance, cover all of the losses and it only wants the profits."
As opposed to coal fired power where you just shit raw sewage continuously into the air and expect your great grandchildren to clean it up?
This is clearly Tesla envy. I suppose Tim approached Tesla about marrying Tesla to IOS. Got a hand and a foot. Stomped off and dreamed up this kooky revenge scheme. Verdict: money, 1; brains 0.
Welcome to the club. I stopped buying HP about 7 years ago when I got fed up with the cost of ink and weird maneuvers to interfere with the third party ink market. Very happy with my Brother laser printer and the canon photoprinter is pretty sweet too. Though ink for the latter is ridiculously expensive, and I whether Canon plays technical games to make third party ink perform poorly. Oh well, Canon so far has not pissed me off to the extent HP has.
remember when it was evil for those 1%er nazis to illegally influence elections with their dirty evil money? Well, it's officially OK now that the money is going to Hillary.
Fact checking you. You fail.
The limit on campaign spending was overturned by a republican-dominated supreme court with all five conservative republican appointees affirming the decision and all four democrat appointees opposing. Or more simply: republicans made this bed, now they must lie in it.
They're just not supporting older Windowses. I can't believe the people here are actually confused about this.
You are confused about it. Microsoft would be intentionally making Windows not work on these processors. You say "not supporting older Windows" when the correct statement is "certain versions of Windows refusing to run on these processors". If the report is accurate, it is slimy beyond belief on the part of Microsoft and quite possibly on the wrong side of antitrust law. Not that I care what happens to Windows user herds, mind you. They know what to do if they ever get tired of eating the crap that Microsoft is fond of serving them.
Linux will probably support the chips before Windows does.
It is a practical certainty that Linux already supports Kaby Lake and that no special code is/was needed. It is also a practical certainty that Intel tested the new chips with Linux extensively, including performance testing, given how much of their business depends on Linux these days. Compilers and support libraries will need updates to take advantage of the new media and crypto instructions, no big hurry there, but indeed, Linux is likely to have these optimizations before Windows does.
What about Linux? Microsoft's Kaby Lake support or lack of it appears to be based on detecting the processor version, and not any lack of backward compatibility in the chip architecture.
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Because the indentation require aligns with what you naturally do as a programmer, it hasn't seemed all that problematic to me.
No, just a survivable wart. If Python did not have significant whitespace, nobody would miss it, but Python having significant whitespace has caused endless complaints, so it is clearly a negative for the language. Other things being equal, fewer warts is better.
I see that exactly no major new language projects have chosen to follow Python lead with whitespace. Or to put it another way, if Python had been defined with curlies, nobody would have complained "we want significant whitespace! Please please!".
I've used Python on very, very large projects that have undergone multiple, massive refactorings and I'm not aware of a single time in a refactor that this was an issue.
It's those wrongly refactored lines you aren't aware of that will seriously bite you in the ass.
guido is a smart guy, but he's not perfect...
I wonder about that. So many blunders in Python, e.g., the whitespace, the inefficiency, the lack of backward compatibility. Could have been great.
If it doesn't work it's probably because you didn't microwave it afterwards.
"Curly" braces to denote blocks of code and semi colons to denote end of statement are the marks of a sane language.
I fail to see why mandatory ";}" is sane.
"One sure sign your language is successful: When people build other languages that transpile into it."
Funny, I interpret that more as "your language is fundamentally flawed but you have a captive audience forced to write in it so they try to make the best of it."
nuclear power "does better in a socialist economy than in a capitalist one, because nuclear energy prefers to have the public do the cleanup, do the insurance, cover all of the losses and it only wants the profits."
As opposed to coal fired power where you just shit raw sewage continuously into the air and expect your great grandchildren to clean it up?
Isn't a doubling a doubling?
And also a binary order of magnitude, as GP said.
Apple definitely doesn't have a lock on pricey phones, though their 7+/256 is a whopping £919
Worth. It has a headphone jack.
This is clearly Tesla envy. I suppose Tim approached Tesla about marrying Tesla to IOS. Got a hand and a foot. Stomped off and dreamed up this kooky revenge scheme. Verdict: money, 1; brains 0.
Next up: iRocket.
Why would Apple acquire an maker of overpriced consumer luxury goods?
I've got this to say about that: you're not driving it right.
Apple makes it easy: no headphone jack = hello Android
Welcome to the club. I stopped buying HP about 7 years ago when I got fed up with the cost of ink and weird maneuvers to interfere with the third party ink market. Very happy with my Brother laser printer and the canon photoprinter is pretty sweet too. Though ink for the latter is ridiculously expensive, and I whether Canon plays technical games to make third party ink perform poorly. Oh well, Canon so far has not pissed me off to the extent HP has.
Donald Trump loves war.
Including with nukes.
Vote Trump if you want a war with nukes.
Vote Trump for a nuclear war to remember.
Especially when it's a war between space aliens and comic book super villains.
Is that what Donald Trump thinks nuclear war is?
remember when it was evil for those 1%er nazis to illegally influence elections with their dirty evil money? Well, it's officially OK now that the money is going to Hillary.
Fact checking you. You fail.
The limit on campaign spending was overturned by a republican-dominated supreme court with all five conservative republican appointees affirming the decision and all four democrat appointees opposing. Or more simply: republicans made this bed, now they must lie in it.
What is political about an opinion that I do not want to end up in the middle of a nuclear war?
What he said is that he was unlikely to be able to find a DA willing to prosecute her....
Fact checking you. You fail.
What James Comey actually said is: “no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case ... responsible decisions also consider the context of a person’s actions, and how similar situations have been handled in the past."
Trump is getting smarter about holding his mouth in check
If elected, then what remains to hold his unforced errors in check?
Why isn't she in jail???
Because using a Mac, though unwise, is not illegal.
Of course (newer) Linux will work.
Older Linux will work as well.
They're just not supporting older Windowses. I can't believe the people here are actually confused about this.
You are confused about it. Microsoft would be intentionally making Windows not work on these processors. You say "not supporting older Windows" when the correct statement is "certain versions of Windows refusing to run on these processors". If the report is accurate, it is slimy beyond belief on the part of Microsoft and quite possibly on the wrong side of antitrust law. Not that I care what happens to Windows user herds, mind you. They know what to do if they ever get tired of eating the crap that Microsoft is fond of serving them.
Linux will probably support the chips before Windows does.
It is a practical certainty that Linux already supports Kaby Lake and that no special code is/was needed. It is also a practical certainty that Intel tested the new chips with Linux extensively, including performance testing, given how much of their business depends on Linux these days. Compilers and support libraries will need updates to take advantage of the new media and crypto instructions, no big hurry there, but indeed, Linux is likely to have these optimizations before Windows does.
What about Linux? Microsoft's Kaby Lake support or lack of it appears to be based on detecting the processor version, and not any lack of backward compatibility in the chip architecture.