Yeah, the tape ran out so I didn't get footage of them pulling out the board, nor re-assembly.
I assure you that they did get it back together. The first time, with me assisting, it didn't work. I left them to fix it on their own, and they managed to pull it apart, find a lose connector that they had missed plugging back in, re-assemble and prove that it worked.
I would argue that in the XO's case, putting it back together is not any harder than pulling it apart. Of the 12 screws they needed to take out, there are three distinct types of screws, so there is no question as to where each should go back (a problem I commonly find when putting devices back together).
Interested is an understatement. They came up to me later in the morning, and asked if they could take it apart again. They decided that having to share the task was no fun, and found another machine to start pulling apart.
Guidance, and explaining what the parts do. I'm an EE student, interning at OLPC.
They have used computers before, but they weren't geeks. I didn't ask them if they played with lego, etc. That would have been a good question.
And yes, in the trials around the world there have been suitations where groups of students have learnt how to repair the XOs for others in their schools. They set up small XO "hospitals" to fix broken laptops. Also, it is worth noting that as the design has progressed through the 4 different beta-test revisions, the hardware has become less prone to breakage, so some of the problems they've seen so far won't occur in the production version.
The laptops are designed to be easily servicable - a total of 12 screws need be removed for access to the motherboard, display, speakers and buttons. There are also spare screws located in the handle, for when screws go "missing".
We are shipping thousands of laptops to parts of the world where there aren't repair shops, and there aren't trained technicians around in every community to repair the XOs.
Enter the children. If they know how to fix their own laptop, all the better. And knowing how to get to the motherboard doesn't mean you want to replace it - there may be a lose connector that needs to be plugged back in. This has already happened; a known problem with one of the early hardware betas was that the keyboard connector came loose. The schools who were trialing the XO's got a group of interested students together, who would open up the broken XOs, re seat the connector, and put them back together.
What would you have the children do? "Oh, sorry, we decided repairing your XO is a useless skill, go back home and repair that engine"?
With their laptop working again, they can continue their education and bring their town, community, country into the future with their new skills and knowledge.
Joel,
Hardware intern at OLPC, creator of the reparing the laptop video.
Hello, I'm the guy who was standing on their shoulder. I'm a student, an intern at OLPC, not the designer. Thanks for the compliment though.
The clip is an edited down version of the most "interesting" parts of the children pulling the laptop apart. It took us about 30 minutes to pull it apart and re-assemble the first time, with me standing beside them and explaining what the various components were and how they came apart. When they repeated it by themselves, I wasn't timing but I know it didn't take much longer than the first time.
When I went back to my work, Sophie came over and asked if she could pull it apart again. Not long after that, I found Philip pulling apart another XO (opps, no harm done though). They loved it.
These kids weren't slashdot geeks. They told me their parents buy them iMacs for school. Yet, they still had fun with the XO. As does anyone who plays with one.
It dosnt require all that much grunt. I saw keith packard demo the software at linux.conf.au, he had it running on a sloppy old laptop of his, he said it had only 4mb of video memory, if i remember corretly.
He was showing off the freedesktop.org xserver, which chugged along pretty damn slowly, but the lookingglass demo worked fine.
Here at Adelaide Uni, Australia, where I'm currently in 2nd year Computer Systems Engineering, everyone who does CS or any of the Electrical Engineering degrees do a semester of DLX assembly... and I'm pretty sure there's more to come in later years.
"...I hope he doesn't happen to wander into our CS department..."
chances are he wouldnt have had to...everyone here is using wifi. But they have opened up the cs labs for everyone to use the sun terminals...so your nightmares have come true:)
There was not enough explination of the 'technical' stuff, which we were given a glimpse of in the first movie. Maybe it was done intentionally, but alot of things were 'left out', from small things like how did neo get from the medical quarters to being jacked in, lying in a seat? to more important things, such as why the hell could he do so much out of the matrix? maybe i missed it. even still, if neo could do all the tricky stuff outside, how come bane/smith could not? (then again...maybe he did...it wasnt an EMP that stuffed up the counterattack by the humas?)
even so, there was too much left unsaid...sure, for suspense and just genrally to make the movie a good movie, there needs to be some unknowns left to discuss. there were just too many, especally for a move which was supposed to be the conclusion - what kind of conclusion as things like "will we see neo again? i think we will" etc in the LAST SCENE of a CONCULDING movie?!
anyway, its 4:11am here in australia, so maybe it would be a good idea to get some rest before ranting too much more.
To finally find the lever required for a human to doom his race?
This a good question I think. The animatrix episodes talk about the machines persecuting the humans, seeking to wipe them out. But the whole idea of using them as a power source means the humans are kept in existence.
So, as you have asked, maybe the perfect 'one' must be the one that is willing to destroy the humans once and for all? (Thats why the architect seems disappointed that neo remains irrevocably human)
um, wtf?! i just finished year 12 geography studies, in australia btw (because the air is different up there in america hey?:) and i was taught that for every 1000m in altitude, there is a 6C change in tempature. go figure
Slashdot Mirror
I chose that soundtrack.
Got something Creative Commons licenced that you think is better? Point me there!
Guided step by step by some hipster-looking amish geek dude in the background.
Dude. That's me. You insensitive clod.
Yeah, the tape ran out so I didn't get footage of them pulling out the board, nor re-assembly.
I assure you that they did get it back together. The first time, with me assisting, it didn't work. I left them to fix it on their own, and they managed to pull it apart, find a lose connector that they had missed plugging back in, re-assemble and prove that it worked.
I would argue that in the XO's case, putting it back together is not any harder than pulling it apart. Of the 12 screws they needed to take out, there are three distinct types of screws, so there is no question as to where each should go back (a problem I commonly find when putting devices back together).
Interested is an understatement. They came up to me later in the morning, and asked if they could take it apart again. They decided that having to share the task was no fun, and found another machine to start pulling apart.
Guidance, and explaining what the parts do. I'm an EE student, interning at OLPC.
They have used computers before, but they weren't geeks. I didn't ask them if they played with lego, etc. That would have been a good question.
And yes, in the trials around the world there have been suitations where groups of students have learnt how to repair the XOs for others in their schools. They set up small XO "hospitals" to fix broken laptops. Also, it is worth noting that as the design has progressed through the 4 different beta-test revisions, the hardware has become less prone to breakage, so some of the problems they've seen so far won't occur in the production version.
The laptops are designed to be easily servicable - a total of 12 screws need be removed for access to the motherboard, display, speakers and buttons. There are also spare screws located in the handle, for when screws go "missing".
Ok, but you're missing the point.
We are shipping thousands of laptops to parts of the world where there aren't repair shops, and there aren't trained technicians around in every community to repair the XOs.
Enter the children. If they know how to fix their own laptop, all the better. And knowing how to get to the motherboard doesn't mean you want to replace it - there may be a lose connector that needs to be plugged back in. This has already happened; a known problem with one of the early hardware betas was that the keyboard connector came loose. The schools who were trialing the XO's got a group of interested students together, who would open up the broken XOs, re seat the connector, and put them back together.
What would you have the children do? "Oh, sorry, we decided repairing your XO is a useless skill, go back home and repair that engine"?
With their laptop working again, they can continue their education and bring their town, community, country into the future with their new skills and knowledge.
Joel,
Hardware intern at OLPC, creator of the reparing the laptop video.
Hello, I'm the guy who was standing on their shoulder. I'm a student, an intern at OLPC, not the designer. Thanks for the compliment though.
The clip is an edited down version of the most "interesting" parts of the children pulling the laptop apart. It took us about 30 minutes to pull it apart and re-assemble the first time, with me standing beside them and explaining what the various components were and how they came apart. When they repeated it by themselves, I wasn't timing but I know it didn't take much longer than the first time.
When I went back to my work, Sophie came over and asked if she could pull it apart again. Not long after that, I found Philip pulling apart another XO (opps, no harm done though). They loved it.
These kids weren't slashdot geeks. They told me their parents buy them iMacs for school. Yet, they still had fun with the XO. As does anyone who plays with one.
Yes, I know what you're saying.
Back in my Naval Cadet days, there was a poor guy who's last name was Stein.
yeah, go Gyroscope!
2.0 isn't out yet.
1.9 is the name they give to version 2beta
It dosnt require all that much grunt. I saw keith packard demo the software at linux.conf.au, he had it running on a sloppy old laptop of his, he said it had only 4mb of video memory, if i remember corretly.
He was showing off the freedesktop.org xserver, which chugged along pretty damn slowly, but the lookingglass demo worked fine.
Here at Adelaide Uni, Australia, where I'm currently in 2nd year Computer Systems Engineering, everyone who does CS or any of the Electrical Engineering degrees do a semester of DLX assembly... and I'm pretty sure there's more to come in later years.
"...I hope he doesn't happen to wander into our CS department..."
:)
chances are he wouldnt have had to...everyone here is using wifi. But they have opened up the cs labs for everyone to use the sun terminals...so your nightmares have come true
joel
Adelaide Uni Student @ linux.conf.ua
There was not enough explination of the 'technical' stuff, which we were given a glimpse of in the first movie. Maybe it was done intentionally, but alot of things were 'left out', from small things like how did neo get from the medical quarters to being jacked in, lying in a seat? to more important things, such as why the hell could he do so much out of the matrix? maybe i missed it. even still, if neo could do all the tricky stuff outside, how come bane/smith could not? (then again...maybe he did...it wasnt an EMP that stuffed up the counterattack by the humas?)
even so, there was too much left unsaid...sure, for suspense and just genrally to make the movie a good movie, there needs to be some unknowns left to discuss. there were just too many, especally for a move which was supposed to be the conclusion - what kind of conclusion as things like "will we see neo again? i think we will" etc in the LAST SCENE of a CONCULDING movie?!
anyway, its 4:11am here in australia, so maybe it would be a good idea to get some rest before ranting too much more.
goodnight all
To finally find the lever required for a human to doom his race?
This a good question I think. The animatrix episodes talk about the machines persecuting the humans, seeking to wipe them out. But the whole idea of using them as a power source means the humans are kept in existence.
So, as you have asked, maybe the perfect 'one' must be the one that is willing to destroy the humans once and for all? (Thats why the architect seems disappointed that neo remains irrevocably human)
neo's room in the first movie, where he lived before being freed from the matrix, was also room 101.
something else to think about, is the fact that he was killed in room 303 significant?
the boss is known to toss off as he jogs
wtf?
ogm is a generic container format. ogg is a media stream.
vorbis is a audio stream, ogg vorbis is a audio file.
when using useragent string as:
:)
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5 SUX DICK; Windows 98)
i recived an error message telling me:
"error trying to validate certificate from lc1.law13.hotmail.passport.com using OSCP - response contains a date which is in the future"
maybe their going to relase a internet explorer that sux dick in the future?! oppps...
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shenki [:)
because the image is on mac.com?
http://homepage.mac.com/gfoyle/newestiMac.jpg
um, fuck you
um, wtf?! i just finished year 12 geography studies, in australia btw (because the air is different up there in america hey? :) and i was taught that for every 1000m in altitude, there is a 6C change in tempature. go figure
yea, intresting. here in aus, i belive its legal for minors to smoke ciggarettes, but to obtain them you havta break the law?!?
yea thats the same story for public schools here in south australia, all NT. the school i attend, a regional private school, also uses win9x boxes