"We know our products has a lot of errors/problems, but we have always been focused on shipping new products rather than fixing errors in existing products. But for the next month we will try to make our products stable even if that means we don't make any money. We like quantity over quality"
It might just be my very subjective view, but I'm also a Microsoft hater so it fits very nicely into my mind...
What would happen if they always dedicated the resources to get to the bottom of the bug list? Sometimes it seems to me that new releases are really made because they discovered that the concept of the program didn't hold water and a completly new version was needed to make it fly.
This is how I always have viewed their approach:
1)Someone releases a cool product.
2)Microsoft says, don't buy it, we are coming with a better product soon.
3)Microsoft sells a product that is similar on the surface(+fancy blinking lights to dazzle the executive peabrains that makes the call on what to choose). But their solution is very poorly designed "inside".
4)The next version from Microsoft then has some impovements in the guts of the program. .
I remember seeing some TV program about some travelling to the North pole(I think it was) and on their way seeing abandoned stations. Big metal buildings looking like metal containers. The most expensive stuff was removed but old cans of food etc, could still be found there, creepy. I wish I could remember more, and I'll bet there's a page or two on the net about it. Oh well, time to think of a clever query on Google.
Hmm thanks,
I have just made a backup of my least important box. And it's now working on it.
I just had to update cvsup first, due to that "CVSup 1000000000 Second Bug". D'oh.
Yes, specially this part:
Find a recent photograph of each team member. Write each person's name, address, telephone number and team name on the back. Attach the correct photograph to each set of forms - this helps us put names to faces when we finally get to meet you.
Translation: We want to make sure that you look like someone we would put on TV. While your skills might apply, there is no show stopper like the wrong looks.
Yes, good idea.
I just wish I could get it to work. I tried to follow the instructions in the handbook, It was clearly written by someone who knew a lot about how it worked, but, at least for me, the entire message did not come across. I guess if you already into it, the manual is pretty clear.
It sounds good as a experiment. You have to figure out the time the computer in the other end takes to reply and then return an answer. But don't you really need another clock than the one that comes in a standard pc. Some PC's seems to loose up to 30 secs every day. And then there is the limit to how long your cable can be. since you can't have any switches in between, can the cable be long enough so you can measure a delay with the poor accuracy of a pc? Hmm maybe counting clock cycles would be better for timetaking. oh well.
I'd say that I would rather like a world wide standard. But maybe that is a job for each airline. Sure it is nice when you step into the biz. lounge of the airline and find a working space with printers/faxes and computers connected to the internet, but if only they would provide a RJ45 connection for the booths where you can sit with your own laptop. Some does but many does not. and all I really need is a cup of coffee and a place to plug my LAN adapter into the net.
"with additional updates to NetMeeting built in to the OS."
Lets just hope that they have discovered by then that the entire world does not have a real IP adr. but sits on a local network where their ip gets NAT'ed. Some protocols needs updating there since the current version of Netmeeting asks the PC what ip it's on instead of asking the world where the world sees it coming from. Oh well, I guess they will update it and make the protocol extremly closed source, tied to the.net or maybe just to the stinking passports.
Now if it wasn't the Open Source Directory, I'd say it sounded like one of those "we-want-you-to-help-build-our-site-for-free-and-t hen-charge-you-for-looking-at-the-content-when-the -site-gets-big-enough" deals.
Some people say that the internet is all about money these days(or maybe the lack of) but I think that the spirit of helping each other still is there. You just have to pick our work and that one is not a bad choice.
I wish the Supertrak SX6000 / I2O would have made it to this release. A good thing to see that Søren is working on the case. I have such a controller waiting for a FreeBSD driver.:)
I have had it running since October on RedHat 7.2 using the I2O drivers, but I'm not going to use the machine before I can use it with FreeBSD.
Thanks for the replies:-)
I know that I have not set other resolutions than the one that my desktop uses, So it sound like that is the solution. Going to test it right away thanks.
Dang. there goes my excuse for having to buy a new graphics card that can handle the resolution.:-)
What we need is people to log in to ID's ftp and download the 8mb file that is required to play the buy version on Linux since the CD does not contain Linux binaires. Will the next game be available on Linux if there is no one getting the binaries needed? hmm I don't know.
If you can get it to run. I have installed it through Wine and am tryng to start it up, but all I get is a screen full of what looks like a random piece of memory dumped to the display. damn.
I have been playing the full multiplayer version on RH 7.2 for some time and it runs like a breeze.
Once you get the proper display drivers installed for OpenGL. I realized that I was lucky that NVIDIA provide Linux drivers that enables me to take proper advantage of the card. Note that the default install of RH won't utilize the Geforce chip properly so that you can play games on it.
I have a "old" Geforce 1 and have been looking at the ATI 8500DV. But I have just switched from Windooze to Linux this week so I was checking ATI's site for Linux drivers and it quickly shows that it is not a choice if you want to play games. Their site says that they do not support Linux and then direct you to some sourceforge pages. Pheew good thing I checked that out. Now I am going for a Geforce 3 istead.
Anyway RCTW works great with the.10 kernel that ships with RH. Only "problem" I have is that I'd like to run a lower resolution(1024x768) in the game than on my desktop(1280x1024), but when you choose full-screen and a lower resolution than the desktop, the games sits in the lower left corner of the screen and the rest is garbage. But that goes for all the games I have tried, like Tux Racer.
A final hurdle is that you cannot make a Linux install from the CD, which gave me a lot of problems. You have to copy the data files from a INSTALLED version on a windooze setup which was impossibe for me since I had deleted the Windooze. I had a second drive in my PC with a FAT32 partition with my old data. So I had to install windooze again just to get the files.
Please, PLEASE, make a Linux program that can extract the data from the Windooze installer. I don't need no fancy GUI, just a command line tool that will let you extract the files from the CD that you need.
It is looking great even though I'd prefer more screenshots than edited images, but I guess it's too early.
Maybe with the q3 release plan it's will be delivered together with the ATI 8500DV card that I ordered.
But I would not be surpriced if it got delayed. With Q3 as a target they have room for delays and will still be able to be on the x-mas lists for santa.
The price of a human life is valued all the time.
That is why we are allowed to drive faster than 3mph in our cars. If we limited the speed limit to a crawl, we could avoid people getting kill by cars, inside and outside it. But the impact of such a limit would be to much on any speed limit, even more than the people killed on the roads. So there we have already put a value on it.
Sometimes people forget that all they write in newsgroups can be viewed by everyone. If is fun when collegues or friends do this. It is interesting when enemies or the biz you are competing agains does it. Take a look and you will be surprised. In the case of our spammer here, We can learn about his private life that he is interested in Geckos and that he has a "African Fire Skink". Read all about it.
Yes, Just got myself a new email adr. for using in webforms. and that email is bshifman@cometlink.com (where they require that you input something but you don't need to see the result).
anyone surfes on warez sites? I am sure there's a lot of porn ads. where you can type in a email adr. for free pron;-)
So the old b-grade(weren't they all) sci-fi movies were right. Computers in the year 2000 and beyond did get those odd roundish/egglike shapes that have haunted me in many nightmares caused by watching a sci-fi movie much to scary for a young mind.:)
Dammit. Even the cars these days that looks like a firecracker exploded inside the plastic model just before it was shown to the suits which liked it, not knowing it was a accident.
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The way I read that message is as following:
"We know our products has a lot of errors/problems, but we have always been focused on shipping new products rather than fixing errors in existing products. But for the next month we will try to make our products stable even if that means we don't make any money. We like quantity over quality"
It might just be my very subjective view, but I'm also a Microsoft hater so it fits very nicely into my mind...
What would happen if they always dedicated the resources to get to the bottom of the bug list? Sometimes it seems to me that new releases are really made because they discovered that the concept of the program didn't hold water and a completly new version was needed to make it fly.
This is how I always have viewed their approach:
1)Someone releases a cool product.
2)Microsoft says, don't buy it, we are coming with a better product soon.
3)Microsoft sells a product that is similar on the surface(+fancy blinking lights to dazzle the executive peabrains that makes the call on what to choose). But their solution is very poorly designed "inside".
4)The next version from Microsoft then has some impovements in the guts of the program. .
I remember seeing some TV program about some travelling to the North pole(I think it was) and on their way seeing abandoned stations. Big metal buildings looking like metal containers. The most expensive stuff was removed but old cans of food etc, could still be found there, creepy. I wish I could remember more, and I'll bet there's a page or two on the net about it. Oh well, time to think of a clever query on Google.
Hmm thanks,
:)
I have just made a backup of my least important box. And it's now working on it.
I just had to update cvsup first, due to that "CVSup 1000000000 Second Bug". D'oh.
Can't wait to see if it will boot.
Yes, specially this part:
Find a recent photograph of each team member. Write each person's name, address, telephone number and team name on the back. Attach the correct photograph to each set of forms - this helps us put names to faces when we finally get to meet you.
Translation: We want to make sure that you look like someone we would put on TV. While your skills might apply, there is no show stopper like the wrong looks.
Yes, good idea.
I just wish I could get it to work. I tried to follow the instructions in the handbook, It was clearly written by someone who knew a lot about how it worked, but, at least for me, the entire message did not come across. I guess if you already into it, the manual is pretty clear.
And now even FreeBSD 4.5 is released. My local mirror was updated last night(watched the ISOs upload). Now to slashdot those ftps.
Well, I have only had one year of English education in school and since it's not a language I use everyday, I think that it was close enough. heh
It sounds good as a experiment. You have to figure out the time the computer in the other end takes to reply and then return an answer. But don't you really need another clock than the one that comes in a standard pc. Some PC's seems to loose up to 30 secs every day. And then there is the limit to how long your cable can be. since you can't have any switches in between, can the cable be long enough so you can measure a delay with the poor accuracy of a pc? Hmm maybe counting clock cycles would be better for timetaking. oh well.
So what is next? a tcp/ip enabled condom? .plan might show up.
Just don't try to finger it.
A nasty
I'd say that I would rather like a world wide standard. But maybe that is a job for each airline. Sure it is nice when you step into the biz. lounge of the airline and find a working space with printers/faxes and computers connected to the internet, but if only they would provide a RJ45 connection for the booths where you can sit with your own laptop. Some does but many does not. and all I really need is a cup of coffee and a place to plug my LAN adapter into the net.
"with additional updates to NetMeeting built in to the OS."
.net or maybe just to the stinking passports.
Lets just hope that they have discovered by then that the entire world does not have a real IP adr. but sits on a local network where their ip gets NAT'ed. Some protocols needs updating there since the current version of Netmeeting asks the PC what ip it's on instead of asking the world where the world sees it coming from. Oh well, I guess they will update it and make the protocol extremly closed source, tied to the
Now if it wasn't the Open Source Directory, I'd say it sounded like one of those "we-want-you-to-help-build-our-site-for-free-and-t hen-charge-you-for-looking-at-the-content-when-the -site-gets-big-enough" deals.
Some people say that the internet is all about money these days(or maybe the lack of) but I think that the spirit of helping each other still is there. You just have to pick our work and that one is not a bad choice.
I wish the Supertrak SX6000 / I2O would have made it to this release. A good thing to see that Søren is working on the case. I have such a controller waiting for a FreeBSD driver. :)
I have had it running since October on RedHat 7.2 using the I2O drivers, but I'm not going to use the machine before I can use it with FreeBSD.
Thanks for the replies :-)
:-)
I know that I have not set other resolutions than the one that my desktop uses, So it sound like that is the solution. Going to test it right away thanks.
Dang. there goes my excuse for having to buy a new graphics card that can handle the resolution.
What we need is people to log in to ID's ftp and download the 8mb file that is required to play the buy version on Linux since the CD does not contain Linux binaires. Will the next game be available on Linux if there is no one getting the binaries needed? hmm I don't know.
If you can get it to run. I have installed it through Wine and am tryng to start it up, but all I get is a screen full of what looks like a random piece of memory dumped to the display. damn.
I have been playing the full multiplayer version on RH 7.2 for some time and it runs like a breeze. .10 kernel that ships with RH. Only "problem" I have is that I'd like to run a lower resolution(1024x768) in the game than on my desktop(1280x1024), but when you choose full-screen and a lower resolution than the desktop, the games sits in the lower left corner of the screen and the rest is garbage. But that goes for all the games I have tried, like Tux Racer.
Once you get the proper display drivers installed for OpenGL. I realized that I was lucky that NVIDIA provide Linux drivers that enables me to take proper advantage of the card. Note that the default install of RH won't utilize the Geforce chip properly so that you can play games on it.
I have a "old" Geforce 1 and have been looking at the ATI 8500DV. But I have just switched from Windooze to Linux this week so I was checking ATI's site for Linux drivers and it quickly shows that it is not a choice if you want to play games. Their site says that they do not support Linux and then direct you to some sourceforge pages. Pheew good thing I checked that out. Now I am going for a Geforce 3 istead.
Anyway RCTW works great with the
A final hurdle is that you cannot make a Linux install from the CD, which gave me a lot of problems. You have to copy the data files from a INSTALLED version on a windooze setup which was impossibe for me since I had deleted the Windooze. I had a second drive in my PC with a FAT32 partition with my old data. So I had to install windooze again just to get the files.
Please, PLEASE, make a Linux program that can extract the data from the Windooze installer. I don't need no fancy GUI, just a command line tool that will let you extract the files from the CD that you need.
You watch too much TV..
wait..zzz.zzzzz...zzzzz... there, the lameness filter will now accept this post
It is looking great even though I'd prefer more screenshots than edited images, but I guess it's too early.
Maybe with the q3 release plan it's will be delivered together with the ATI 8500DV card that I ordered.
But I would not be surpriced if it got delayed. With Q3 as a target they have room for delays and will still be able to be on the x-mas lists for santa.
The price of a human life is valued all the time.
That is why we are allowed to drive faster than 3mph in our cars. If we limited the speed limit to a crawl, we could avoid people getting kill by cars, inside and outside it. But the impact of such a limit would be to much on any speed limit, even more than the people killed on the roads. So there we have already put a value on it.
Sometimes people forget that all they write in newsgroups can be viewed by everyone. If is fun when collegues or friends do this. It is interesting when enemies or the biz you are competing agains does it. Take a look and you will be surprised. In the case of our spammer here, We can learn about his private life that he is interested in Geckos and that he has a "African Fire Skink". Read all about it.
Yes, Just got myself a new email adr. for using in webforms. and that email is bshifman@cometlink.com (where they require that you input something but you don't need to see the result).
;-)
anyone surfes on warez sites? I am sure there's a lot of porn ads. where you can type in a email adr. for free pron
I can recommend that everyone read the entire page.
This guy just doesn't know when to quit. A good thing he got the "fame" of a slashdotting. heeh.
So the old b-grade(weren't they all) sci-fi movies were right. Computers in the year 2000 and beyond did get those odd roundish/egglike shapes that have haunted me in many nightmares caused by watching a sci-fi movie much to scary for a young mind. :)
Dammit. Even the cars these days that looks like a firecracker exploded inside the plastic model just before it was shown to the suits which liked it, not knowing it was a accident.
Have they agreed to us putting it there? You do know that is where their base are. Hidden from our view.
ahrm.