Yeah. Those suckers are BUILT LIKE A TANK. Jesus, they EASILY weigh 5 pounds. While one could bash in the case, there's no way you can break the handset.
They dont have to keep a (BIG FREAKIN HONKIN) Crossbar switch to keep your rotary service going. It's an option on digital switches. Williamsport (570-32*) was one of the first towns with a Digital switch, and all of our rotary phones still work.
On the other hand, almost every phone in the house says "PROPERTY OF BELL TELEPHONE" under it. We've got one wall mount traditional rotary, and about 6 desktop traditional touch tone phones.
What do you expect? This is AMERICA! They're being sued because it wasn't in huge, giant 72point font on the front of the envelope in English, Spanish, French, German, Haitian, Slavic, Hindi, Chinese, etc etc. McDonald's was successfully sued because their fries have beef flavoring in them, and they didn't tell vegetarians (although the ingredients list STATES THAT). Some fatass is suing a bunch of chains because they "forced" him to feat fattening food.
2. The cost of disposal of the junk mail falls on you.
It does. Or, rather, it does in cities that Ban the Barrel/Burner. For years, we would just take our garbage out to the burner barrel, but now it's either pay $whatever/bag or toss it in someone's dumpster.
No, but you're forgetting that costs more money than @Home thought. They're now bankrupt.
At least you still have service, look at all the poor DSL saps that lost service when their provider went under. When i had @Home, the speeds, well, sucked. Now that my (small) cable provider is back on their own, I couldn't be happier.
Here in the United States, ESN copying used to be as easy as IMEI changing. However, now that it's illegal, it's not just a plug-into-a-PC-and-go, it's a good old fashioned change-the-PROM jobbie. Much harder. Hopefully manufacturers in the UK will do the same.
Petty much. They're both unique serial numbers. However, the ESN is used to identify the user of the phone to the network. In GSM, however, a separate smart-card called a SIM (Subscriber Identification Module) to identify the user of the phone. I'm not sure what, other thjan auditing purposes, the IMEI/IMSI is for.
But the law will make it the manufacturers' responsibility to make it harder to change. It;s easily changed with a firmware hack (I've seen the option in GSM unlocking programs). Since the law was enacted in the USA, it's become much harder to change the ESN, but then, the ESN is used for much more than tracking here, it's used for billing, also.
It's already illegal to change the ESN on a phone in america. dunno if it applies to the IMEI, because that isn't actually used for billing, but why in hell would you want to change it anyway?
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Jesus, a week and a half ago Amazon.com had them for free with a contract. They only cost that much when they came out last November.
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AT&T sells thgem for $200 down to about $150. Dunno about a lock, but you can get them unlocked. VoiceStream WILL sell you a SIM afaik, but ATTWS will not.
You can have Caller ID show the name. On most cellular phones, you dont get the name with the number (but ti'll show the name if the number is in your phonebook) - We had it for a while, generally reliable.
How big is slashdot? I think the more important question is how many of us are Neilsen households. If we all switch the channel and NONE of us have a Neilsen box, it doesn't do them any good.
1. when something breaks in windows, your only hope is that its gets fixed on the next service pack, and then after a few service packs the product gets abandonded like NT after service pack 6 forcing a costly update. on Linux you have the source and therefore can fix the problem, even for the non programmers usually a fix is available in rpm and the problem is disclosed, unlike windows the problem is kept secret from the average user.
Provided you know that there's a problem. Doesn't get much easier than WIndows Update.
2. any fix in windows requiered several reboots.
In linux you normaly do not need to reboot when updating software or fixing something, unless you are updating the kernel. Same deal in Windows.
3. Security, linux is much more secure than windows by default, and it can be made even more secure. I dont see you giving any proof.
4. The uptime in linux is far superior to the uptime in windows. Again, I dont see any proof.
5. Some people claim X is slower than the windows gui, but this is not true, since it depends on the graphic chipset that is being used, and when you think of X think of total time something takes, for example changing the resolution is only 3 keystrokes, in most versions of windows this means rebooting after going in the control pannel. Ever since Windows95, i've had an icon in my task bar that I right click and can select my color depth and resolution. No reboot was EVER required. When it asks, you click the option that says "Make changes without rebooting".
6. usually hardware that does not work on linux, is because the manufactures do not provide the hardware specifications, and it is usually very poor hardware like winmodems, or bad scanners. for example I have an acer prisa scanner wich is very bad it does not work on linux, but on windows it is very slow and uses all the cpu of the system that why you are scanning you can not do anything else. My RealMagic decoder doesn't have official drivers for Linux. Neither does my Logitech QuickCam. Pretty much standard hardware.
7. There are things that you can do in linux which would be very difficult in windows, for example setting up x terminals vs setting up windows terminals. Windows Terminal Services hard to set up? nah.
8.In linux you can update programs individualy, in windows in many cases this is not possible. for example in linux you can update the kernel, in windows this is not possible without updating the whole os. in linux you can update X and only X, in windows you can not update the GUI without updating the whole OS. Hey bud, Linux IS the kernel, and nothing else. You can also update the NT kernel without updating anything else.
9. Viruses. In windows a virus can kill your OS. In linux the most damage a virus can do is limited to the files owned by that user. Uh, no? Only if your logged on as administrator. Then again, if you always log in as root on a linux box, you're asking for the same thing.
10. Technicall support. Windows has only tech support from ms which is bad and costly, mostly you are on your own. For linux there are many distributors that offer tech support, and many independent consultants, for example http://wwww.consultorlinux.com offers linux tech support for very low fees, even free in some cases. Why is linux tech support better than windows, well most users that use linux is because they like the os, in windows for many years you could not buy a pc that was not bundled with windows, and history shows that the average user will use whatever he gets.
Or, you could ask your friends/people on IRC like every one else does, and I guarantee you there's more people on IRC using Windows than Linux.
Area codes may be, but exchanges are NOT. Exchanges are assigned to a provider for one purpose. Cellular/PCS, pager, and land line should ALL be separate.
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And ity would make applications much more bloated like, shall we say... GNU/Linux?
Yeah. Those suckers are BUILT LIKE A TANK. Jesus, they EASILY weigh 5 pounds. While one could bash in the case, there's no way you can break the handset.
They dont have to keep a (BIG FREAKIN HONKIN) Crossbar switch to keep your rotary service going. It's an option on digital switches. Williamsport (570-32*) was one of the first towns with a Digital switch, and all of our rotary phones still work.
On the other hand, almost every phone in the house says "PROPERTY OF BELL TELEPHONE" under it. We've got one wall mount traditional rotary, and about 6 desktop traditional touch tone phones.
You still do? It disappeared off of my VZ/Hell Fucklantic bill years ago. All they did was raise the basic price.
What do you expect? This is AMERICA! They're being sued because it wasn't in huge, giant 72point font on the front of the envelope in English, Spanish, French, German, Haitian, Slavic, Hindi, Chinese, etc etc. McDonald's was successfully sued because their fries have beef flavoring in them, and they didn't tell vegetarians (although the ingredients list STATES THAT). Some fatass is suing a bunch of chains because they "forced" him to feat fattening food.
No, but he does mean laissez-faire
Double French Nazi action. No French lazy fair for you!
I uh... work at mcdonalds. No, it's not my regular job.
On the register, we have Regular (small/McD's size), medium, large, and supersize.
whrere in central PA?
I mean, I live in Jersey Shore, PA. Lycoming County. Those surveyors were off by A FEW HUNDRED MILES.
2. The cost of disposal of the junk mail falls on you.
It does. Or, rather, it does in cities that Ban the Barrel/Burner. For years, we would just take our garbage out to the burner barrel, but now it's either pay $whatever/bag or toss it in someone's dumpster.
No, but you're forgetting that costs more money than @Home thought. They're now bankrupt.
At least you still have service, look at all the poor DSL saps that lost service when their provider went under. When i had @Home, the speeds, well, sucked. Now that my (small) cable provider is back on their own, I couldn't be happier.
Here in the United States, ESN copying used to be as easy as IMEI changing. However, now that it's illegal, it's not just a plug-into-a-PC-and-go, it's a good old fashioned change-the-PROM jobbie. Much harder. Hopefully manufacturers in the UK will do the same.
Petty much. They're both unique serial numbers. However, the ESN is used to identify the user of the phone to the network. In GSM, however, a separate smart-card called a SIM (Subscriber Identification Module) to identify the user of the phone. I'm not sure what, other thjan auditing purposes, the IMEI/IMSI is for.
But the law will make it the manufacturers' responsibility to make it harder to change. It;s easily changed with a firmware hack (I've seen the option in GSM unlocking programs). Since the law was enacted in the USA, it's become much harder to change the ESN, but then, the ESN is used for much more than tracking here, it's used for billing, also.
It's already illegal to change the ESN on a phone in america. dunno if it applies to the IMEI, because that isn't actually used for billing, but why in hell would you want to change it anyway?
No, but thats what the software was written for.
GSM is already encrypted. TDMA can be, dunno about CDMA, but it should be because of the unique public key tagging for calls.
Jesus, a week and a half ago Amazon.com had them for free with a contract. They only cost that much when they came out last November.
AT&T sells thgem for $200 down to about $150. Dunno about a lock, but you can get them unlocked. VoiceStream WILL sell you a SIM afaik, but ATTWS will not.
You can have Caller ID show the name. On most cellular phones, you dont get the name with the number (but ti'll show the name if the number is in your phonebook) - We had it for a while, generally reliable.
How big is slashdot? I think the more important question is how many of us are Neilsen households. If we all switch the channel and NONE of us have a Neilsen box, it doesn't do them any good.
1. when something breaks in windows, your only hope is that its gets fixed on the next service pack, and then after a few service packs the product gets abandonded like NT after service pack 6 forcing a costly update.
on Linux you have the source and therefore can fix the problem, even for the non programmers usually a fix is available in rpm and the problem is disclosed, unlike windows the problem is kept secret from the average user.
Provided you know that there's a problem. Doesn't get much easier than WIndows Update.
2. any fix in windows requiered several reboots.
In linux you normaly do not need to reboot when updating software or fixing something, unless you are updating the kernel.
Same deal in Windows.
3. Security, linux is much more secure than windows by default, and it can be made even more secure.
I dont see you giving any proof.
4. The uptime in linux is far superior to the uptime in windows.
Again, I dont see any proof.
5. Some people claim X is slower than the windows gui, but this is not true, since it depends on the graphic chipset that is being used, and when you think of X think of total time something takes, for example changing the resolution is only 3 keystrokes, in most versions of windows this means rebooting after going in the control pannel.
Ever since Windows95, i've had an icon in my task bar that I right click and can select my color depth and resolution. No reboot was EVER required. When it asks, you click the option that says "Make changes without rebooting".
6. usually hardware that does not work on linux, is because the manufactures do not provide the hardware specifications, and it is usually very poor hardware like winmodems, or bad scanners.
for example I have an acer prisa scanner wich is very bad it does not work on linux, but on windows it is very slow and uses all the cpu of the system that why you are scanning you can not do anything else.
My RealMagic decoder doesn't have official drivers for Linux. Neither does my Logitech QuickCam. Pretty much standard hardware.
7. There are things that you can do in linux which would be very difficult in windows, for example setting up x terminals vs setting up windows terminals.
Windows Terminal Services hard to set up? nah.
8.In linux you can update programs individualy, in windows in many cases this is not possible.
for example in linux you can update the kernel, in windows this is not possible without updating the whole os.
in linux you can update X and only X, in windows you can not update the GUI without updating the whole OS.
Hey bud, Linux IS the kernel, and nothing else. You can also update the NT kernel without updating anything else.
9. Viruses.
In windows a virus can kill your OS.
In linux the most damage a virus can do is limited to the files owned by that user.
Uh, no? Only if your logged on as administrator. Then again, if you always log in as root on a linux box, you're asking for the same thing.
10. Technicall support.
Windows has only tech support from ms which is bad and costly, mostly you are on your own.
For linux there are many distributors that offer tech support, and many independent consultants, for example http://wwww.consultorlinux.com offers linux tech support for very low fees, even free in some cases.
Why is linux tech support better than windows, well most users that use linux is because they like the os, in windows for many years you could not buy a pc that was not bundled with windows, and history shows that the average user will use whatever he gets.
Or, you could ask your friends/people on IRC like every one else does, and I guarantee you there's more people on IRC using Windows than Linux.
Lot more of USA than there is of Europe.
Area codes may be, but exchanges are NOT. Exchanges are assigned to a provider for one purpose. Cellular/PCS, pager, and land line should ALL be separate.
world phones. T68i. There's a LOT of em. The only reason we don't use the same frequency as the rest of the world is the damn military.
and it's 40 hours in north america, 44 tops, then it's overtime.