Still sad to see this generation equating Apple with Microsoft's willful monopolistic mis-conduct during the 80s and 90s. Now go tweeter about how oppressed you are.
There are lots of computers we interact with on a daily basis for which we don't have the ability to run arbitrary code--they are appliances which serve a function and there is nothing morally wrong about creating them or buying them.
Your personal preference is to have a Linux PC in your pocket, not a mobile internet appliance--that's fine, but that doesn't make you any holier than the millions of people who have a different preference.
Lock in means what it literally says, the users are prevented from moving their files to something else. There's no such lock-in with Apple because they use a non-DRM-encumbered standard format implemented by several other players. There are plenty of utilities to convert your OGG files to something playable on an iPod.
You aren't Ganhdi, stop acting like you are oppressed. Discover girls, learn to drive, grow up.
Before the iPhone, changable faceplates and $4.99 ringtones was the extent of the features and choice provided to a US cellphone customer. If you don't think things have changed for the better then you just aren't paying attention.
Your typical Android fan is a technical person who wants to be able to fiddle unconstrained with their phone and they want a plethora of hardware options, even at the expense of usability (in this case upgradability). They want a Linux PC in their pocket.
Your iPhone fan wants a usable appliance first and foremost.
There's no reason that these two can't coexist.
Now here's the kicker. There is no iPhone fan anywhere who thinks that people shouldn't have the option of using Android--and frankly most wouldn't insult them for doing so. The reverse is *not* true for Android fans.
Which means that you can get a job any number of companies that are getting spanked by Apple nowadays.
PCs beat out Macs because they were supported by a larger company (IBM) and there was a perfect storm of architectural lock-in (x86) and OS lock-in (Dos/Windows) and application lock-in (Microsoft Office-based de facto standards) in a world where software compatibility and backwards compatibility was king.
iPhone's and iPads are nothing like that world, they look far more like appliances than platforms. Yes, they host thousands of applications, but there are almost no barriers preventing those apps from being ported to other devices (nothing compared to the issues for competitors to Wintel) and there's no substantial lock-in due to file formats (Apple uses standard formats for web browsing, music, video, etc.) like there was with Microsoft.
This means that the barriers to fair competition are nothing like they were in the Wintel issue--so other companies will probably carve out their markets and do fine. But the 'appliance' part means that Apple will continue to be quite successful because they are the only company that sees devices as more like Microwaves and Televisions than like a desktop computer.
you will realize that everyone does everything because it has either a "short term or long term benefit" for them--especially companies. No company is supporting open-source despite it being a detriment to their short term or long term goals.
good vs. evil in this context doesn't mean "non-profit vs. profit"...never has.
I can open and close the lid on my Macbook a hundred times in a row and it will go to sleep and happily wake up every single time. Care to try that on whatever Windows piece of crap or Slackware laptop you are using?
Do you think the Macbook does that correctly because of marketing?
I think the answer is that there are no other faster/cheaper/more stable tablets by the definition that 90% of the buying public uses. You use a different definition.
I know more about computers than you do. I design them for a living. Talking down to me about replacing batteries or SD cards doesn't make me look foolish--it makes you look foolish. I don't need a replaceable battery, and I kinda like that my phone doesn't have some cheap battery cover that pops off when it's dropped--but mostly I just don't care. An SD card would be nice, frankly. If there was something otherwise identical to an iPhone which had an SD card slot, I'd probably buy it instead--but there isn't; so (for me) it's still the best phone.
If you need a replaceable battery, then don't buy an iPhone. It really is that simple. My desire to own an iPhone doesn't imply any judgment about the choices you make--just like the existence of my religion isn't an attack on your religion.
Tribalism has appeared across humanity in a number of different forms, but none of them has been as stupid as this obsession with smartphone manufacturers.
You've met him. Judging from your general attitude, I feel pretty confident saying that I know more about computers than you do. I design them for a living. I probably designed something in the computer you are using right now. I know how it works from the transistor up.
I've owned every kind of mobile device that one can imagine over the last 20 years. I've been tinkering with every kind of computer since I was a kid. I used to love to tinker on all my devices. Now I work for a living--debugging deeply technical issues all day long. My phone, I want it to work. My laptop--I want it to work. I've developed an appreciation for good hardware and software design through years of doing both--Apple puts a lot of effort into both.
I can understand someone wanting something to tinker with--I have a box full of robot parts for whenever the mood strikes. I hack in several different languages on my Linux box and I find that stimulating. But what I don't do is look down my nose at people who don't want to do that, or at least don't want to do that 24 hours a day.
Seriously--you never hear any iPhone-fan screaming that Android or the Android marketplace shouldn't exist. Never. If that's what you want, then go for it.
The Android world, though, (by and large) is completely obnoxious towards people who choose an iPhone (I guess CHOICE is only a virtue when someone chooses your way)--to the point of trying to somehow force Apple to do things differently. The Android world looks down on the grandmothers of the world who just want to be able to Facetime easily with their grandchildren. You see, if you aren't l33t enough to run SETI@home on your phone then you don't deserve to have a smartphone, right?
And, most irksome to me personally, the Android world operates under the delusion that technical people don't use iPhones. I think I probably know more about computers than you do--and I use an iPhone because I appreciate good design and I want something that works. I don't care that I can't compile the Linux kernel on it for the same reason that I don't care that I can compile the Linux kernel on my microwave.
Just sounds like gibberish to me. I think what you are trying to say is something like "Mac users don't care about specs".
The whole "Mac users don't understand technology" meme is absurd and annoying.
There are lots of Mac users out there that know more about computers than you do. Visualize those people the next time you are tempted to write something silly like "they don't know how to upgrade".
All the computers I've bought recently haven't had this problem at all. You just open the box and start using it. It's almost as if the company that makes them doesn't hate its customers.
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I'll say it slowly this time.
Apple isn't trying to be first to any feature; that's not their business model and that's not why they are making billions and billions.
...literally all the way to the bank.
You still think this is a race to be first to a feature. Meanwhile, Apple is printing money.
They are getting destroyed by Android, just obliterated. I hear massive layoffs are on the way, they are selling off most of their campus. Doomed.
you are about 15 years old--so it makes sense.
Still sad to see this generation equating Apple with Microsoft's willful monopolistic mis-conduct during the 80s and 90s. Now go tweeter about how oppressed you are.
There are lots of computers we interact with on a daily basis for which we don't have the ability to run arbitrary code--they are appliances which serve a function and there is nothing morally wrong about creating them or buying them.
Your personal preference is to have a Linux PC in your pocket, not a mobile internet appliance--that's fine, but that doesn't make you any holier than the millions of people who have a different preference.
I guess that makes Motorola evil, right?
fun.
that "considerably popular" doesn't mean 0.0001%.
Lock in means what it literally says, the users are prevented from moving their files to something else. There's no such lock-in with Apple because they use a non-DRM-encumbered standard format implemented by several other players. There are plenty of utilities to convert your OGG files to something playable on an iPod.
You aren't Ganhdi, stop acting like you are oppressed. Discover girls, learn to drive, grow up.
Before the iPhone, changable faceplates and $4.99 ringtones was the extent of the features and choice provided to a US cellphone customer. If you don't think things have changed for the better then you just aren't paying attention.
Your typical Android fan is a technical person who wants to be able to fiddle unconstrained with their phone and they want a plethora of hardware options, even at the expense of usability (in this case upgradability). They want a Linux PC in their pocket.
Your iPhone fan wants a usable appliance first and foremost.
There's no reason that these two can't coexist.
Now here's the kicker. There is no iPhone fan anywhere who thinks that people shouldn't have the option of using Android--and frankly most wouldn't insult them for doing so. The reverse is *not* true for Android fans.
Which means that you can get a job any number of companies that are getting spanked by Apple nowadays.
PCs beat out Macs because they were supported by a larger company (IBM) and there was a perfect storm of architectural lock-in (x86) and OS lock-in (Dos/Windows) and application lock-in (Microsoft Office-based de facto standards) in a world where software compatibility and backwards compatibility was king.
iPhone's and iPads are nothing like that world, they look far more like appliances than platforms. Yes, they host thousands of applications, but there are almost no barriers preventing those apps from being ported to other devices (nothing compared to the issues for competitors to Wintel) and there's no substantial lock-in due to file formats (Apple uses standard formats for web browsing, music, video, etc.) like there was with Microsoft.
This means that the barriers to fair competition are nothing like they were in the Wintel issue--so other companies will probably carve out their markets and do fine. But the 'appliance' part means that Apple will continue to be quite successful because they are the only company that sees devices as more like Microwaves and Televisions than like a desktop computer.
you will realize that everyone does everything because it has either a "short term or long term benefit" for them--especially companies. No company is supporting open-source despite it being a detriment to their short term or long term goals.
good vs. evil in this context doesn't mean "non-profit vs. profit"...never has.
"Wake me when iTunes switches to lossless"
I can open and close the lid on my Macbook a hundred times in a row and it will go to sleep and happily wake up every single time. Care to try that on whatever Windows piece of crap or Slackware laptop you are using?
Do you think the Macbook does that correctly because of marketing?
Also, she's having an affair...with an iPhone-owner.
Burn. :q!
I think the answer is that there are no other faster/cheaper/more stable tablets by the definition that 90% of the buying public uses. You use a different definition.
We can only purchase devices without flaws, right?
How often do you open it? How about your television set? Microwave?
I know more about computers than you do. I design them for a living. Talking down to me about replacing batteries or SD cards doesn't make me look foolish--it makes you look foolish. I don't need a replaceable battery, and I kinda like that my phone doesn't have some cheap battery cover that pops off when it's dropped--but mostly I just don't care. An SD card would be nice, frankly. If there was something otherwise identical to an iPhone which had an SD card slot, I'd probably buy it instead--but there isn't; so (for me) it's still the best phone.
If you need a replaceable battery, then don't buy an iPhone. It really is that simple. My desire to own an iPhone doesn't imply any judgment about the choices you make--just like the existence of my religion isn't an attack on your religion.
Tribalism has appeared across humanity in a number of different forms, but none of them has been as stupid as this obsession with smartphone manufacturers.
You've met him. Judging from your general attitude, I feel pretty confident saying that I know more about computers than you do. I design them for a living. I probably designed something in the computer you are using right now. I know how it works from the transistor up.
I've owned every kind of mobile device that one can imagine over the last 20 years. I've been tinkering with every kind of computer since I was a kid. I used to love to tinker on all my devices. Now I work for a living--debugging deeply technical issues all day long. My phone, I want it to work. My laptop--I want it to work. I've developed an appreciation for good hardware and software design through years of doing both--Apple puts a lot of effort into both.
I can understand someone wanting something to tinker with--I have a box full of robot parts for whenever the mood strikes. I hack in several different languages on my Linux box and I find that stimulating. But what I don't do is look down my nose at people who don't want to do that, or at least don't want to do that 24 hours a day.
Seriously--you never hear any iPhone-fan screaming that Android or the Android marketplace shouldn't exist. Never. If that's what you want, then go for it.
The Android world, though, (by and large) is completely obnoxious towards people who choose an iPhone (I guess CHOICE is only a virtue when someone chooses your way)--to the point of trying to somehow force Apple to do things differently. The Android world looks down on the grandmothers of the world who just want to be able to Facetime easily with their grandchildren. You see, if you aren't l33t enough to run SETI@home on your phone then you don't deserve to have a smartphone, right?
And, most irksome to me personally, the Android world operates under the delusion that technical people don't use iPhones. I think I probably know more about computers than you do--and I use an iPhone because I appreciate good design and I want something that works. I don't care that I can't compile the Linux kernel on it for the same reason that I don't care that I can compile the Linux kernel on my microwave.
Get a life.
Just sounds like gibberish to me. I think what you are trying to say is something like "Mac users don't care about specs".
The whole "Mac users don't understand technology" meme is absurd and annoying.
There are lots of Mac users out there that know more about computers than you do. Visualize those people the next time you are tempted to write something silly like "they don't know how to upgrade".
All the computers I've bought recently haven't had this problem at all. You just open the box and start using it. It's almost as if the company that makes them doesn't hate its customers.
Plus, they are shiny.
Weird.
It never ceases to amaze how many people out there just don't get it.