No. Echelon is that government network stretching across the the majority of the world used to spy on most all communications especially voice communication by the phone system and likely the cell networks. Carnivore was the answer to their desire for greater listening capabilities of the general public through new phone technology that didn't have back doors built in.
Now as far as decrypting dvds so you can watch them that was decss.
Were you seriously asking or are you just a troll?
Seriously, no flamebait or trolling intended, but maybe you should just go burn in hell. Really the heat isn't that bad. Eventually you'll get used to it. Really I don't see why you would have a problem with all that heat. Nothing else seems to bother you and after all. The whole world revolves around shitheads like you who don't give a flying fuck about the environment. Want to call me anti-social and a shut-in if I avoid this kind of shit. Well get all up in my face in this physical world we live in and I'll show you just how *anti-social* I can be! =) Really! TRY ME!!!
If I'm sitting on a park bench reading a book or sitting on the grass for instance in public and you come up and start soliciting me or even talking to me say about something political and I don't want to hear any more and tell you leave me alone I don't want to hear it go away and you persist. You are now harassing me and that is illegal. SO, YOU, ARE, WRONG on that point. As far as everything else. Couldn't agree more.
Your an idiot. My computer is in my bedroom. This is **ON** my private property. Anyone gaining access to my computer **IN ANY CONTEXT** are tresspassing and have gained access to information they, under normal circumstances would have **NO ACCESS TO WHAT SO EVER**. Is it legal for me to tap your phone? All I'm doing is hooking up to your line by some means and listening to conversations. How do you feel about that? You think that just because the information over my broadband connection is binary data that it's any different than a conversation over the phone?
Gaining **REMOTE** access to my computer is far and beyond that of taping some one's phone line. Now I'm not just a passive listener in the immediate sense (If I listen long enough I might learn a way to enter the picture of your life and whoever your talking to for who knows what ill purpose.) but can affect changes in your machine from affar if I so desire. Seems to me if you've gone beyond the damage of taping or tresspassing that your at least in the level of shit you would be for those offenses if not more so. The idea that you've found an all encompassing loophole and have free reign to do what you please is assenine.
People that think the way you do are just wasteing space.
You and everyone else who thinks theres a difference are idiots.
Oh look. Someone devised a new form of communication and information transfer. Guess we have to toss the current rules out the window cause there's NO WAY the laws in place can be adapted to this new process for communication. It's not as though there are common focul points in communication that can always be replied upon to be there for basing our rules and laws upon.
Just because the constuction of the vehicle or process you use to get to your end result is different in composition doesn't mean it doesn't need the same ingrediants to get there.
"Does anyone argue about the OS in a digital camera? Or a Palm? Or a cell phone? No."
I do. I won't buy hardware that I can't get support for even after the company has either ditched the product line or gone out of business. With a free-software, open-source gpl'ed or other acceptable license support will always be there. It it's not (as in there isn't a community) there will be what was available before *somewhere on the web* and you'll be free to pick it back up from where whoever else left off and continue it and solve your own problems and improve it in your own way. This is more power and choice for the user who can roll there own the ther other users they make it available too. It's superieor plain and simple. That's the way I see it. Everyone else who argues otherwise is simply wasteing their energy.
"Friends" who would buy into this aren't worth spending my time with.
Family who buy into this are to be ignored until they grow a brain and ADMIT HOW STUPID THEY WERE for lending any legitamcy to these needless restrictions.
I wouldn't be happy playing with anyone who doesn't feel the way I do.
If someone wants to do something with me so bad then they're going to have to do things with me that don't involve this crap EVER!
If they have a problem with that WHO CARES. I OBVIOUSLY DON'T
Who would want to spend time playing one of these games with me?(Retorical) Gee. I'm glad were on the same page >=)
I won't tolerate used media or renting being "stopped" for the sake of propping up failing "***GREEDY***" companies business models. I also wouldn't tolerate it for ANY other reason EVER.
Were it to happen I would NEVER purchase the "new" media. Were they to try and sneek it buy like the ***LAME*** RIAA with their bullshit copy protected cd's I would shread the books and manuals and destroy the cd's contained there in of the ONE thing I bought and then mail it back to the right company resealed with a heaping helping of dog shit. (Return it you say? HELL NO!!! Best buy or whoever are NOT going to get back something they can sell again and retain ANY of my money as a "restocking fee")
I disagree and I don't CARE what "LAW" you think prevents me from having a right to something I bought second hand from someone else.
NO ONE has I right with ANY product to sell said product to EVERY person on the globe or in their nation, city, town, etc.... They don't have a right to expect other's who've purchased their *CRAP* (It's crap if they think they can do this!) to keep it ever more or throw it away once they have no more use for it instead of selling it to a friend or prospective garage sale customer.
Further more why would a renter or seller of second hand products have I right to sell it but I not to use it? YOU ARE A MORON.
I will "check out" what meets my standards and requirements for me to purchase it. Oh what's amatter baby? Think us "consumers" don't have a right to choose or "BE A SATISFIED ***CUSTOMER***" GO BURN IN HELL
Leave a perfectly good market that's currently experiencing an influx of GREEDY, SELFISH, SELF CENTERED, MEGALOMANIACAL DIPSHITS for another most likely experiencing the same thing? Do you EVEN HAVE A BRAIN??? Like I'm going to *LET* those shit heads see ANY of **MY MONEY**.
"Isn't that the capitalist way?" It bears repeating. You... are... A... MORON....
Mark me troll or whatever I don't care. Doesn't change reality you *other* morons abusing the moderation system to raise greedy self serving perspectives without valid points.
If there is never again to be non-DRM enabled hardware then I would rather sit back and enjoy the hardware I still have while I can maintain it even if needing to go the computer equivalent of a junkyard to pick up spare relacement parts. Also enjoying any non-DRM enabled hardware while it exists. As far as kids yeah maybe for other people but not with me. I'm that politically against it and always will be. Further more those who are willing to use and purchase that hardware will NOT make good company either because they don't know and or don't care or do know and most likely are pompous asses that'll defend actions to their death that I will NEVER support.
In short. Fuck DRM and all those who produce it and away with thoe who blindly or knowingly use it. I WON'T CONDONE IT AROUND ME! Anyone who would want to call me on it wouldn't get anywhere either. You defend any of it in ANY way and your part of the problem and I don't want ANYTHING to do with you. I'm not saying your defending it but explaining what you see being a possible direct outcome. Even so if it becomes true. Well then see the above. =/ I also don't care if this makes me a kind of an outcast. I'll be happier anyway. Liberty or DIE!
Yeah, that's nice. I finally looked up ubiquitous since it's been thrown around quite a bit lately.
Partial Quote from dictionary.com: (yes I'm lazy.) "Existing or being everywhere, or in all places, at the same time; omnipresent. -- U*biq\"ui*tous*ly, adv.
In this sense is he ubiquitous. --R. D. Hitchcock."
Look ma! My stapler is greater than me and 1/3 it's way to being like God.
Not to say that I don't agree with you but it's no difference to me in this day and age. Money -> Power Power -> Money.
If you want money it's to attain power. If you want power it's to attain money. Irregardless. I don't see the difference. Think about it. Try and argue with me but when you get done saying no it's really for this. I would ask you what is at the root of all that energy? To get either power or money in my opinion.
Or maybe it's a way for them to sell you a dvd player and smart phone that work together to scream blody murder and phone home when ever you play content the devices flag as unpaid for or what ever lame reason they want to claim your doing wrong by them this time.
Well. Gee. I wonder if he would even want to continue development for this game given blizzard's actions of late. I mean I would so totaly want to lead people to purchase this companies products given the way they stomp on the little guy.
So I suppose you haven't visited their homepage or let alone read the comments up till now have you? Otherwise you might realize that that's a realtime screenshot of freecraft running with the content OFF OF AN ORIGINAL WARCRAFT CD. Point being that it's to play WARCRAFT NATIVELY ON LINUX. DUH!
Get a clue dipshit They weren't out to create a wholy original work! It's supposed to be as similar to warcraft and I believe that other viking game blizzard made. If you had ever been to their original website and bothered to read it you would KNOW this.
If you read my previous post however you would know that I'm more inclinded to discard information that paints anyone who has engaged in ANY privacy invasion of ANY KIND and make the paranoid move. =)
Of course some information on the web will tell you there's nothing wrong with it and that it's harmless. But so will anyone else who may benefit from it being on your's, mine, and everyone else's system. If I find ANYTHING that can introduce ANY doubt (which is VERY EASY) then it's gone. I'll reinstall the whole damned thing if I have to just to get rid of it. To be clear. Deleting the key without replacing the file makes IE for fucking NUTS!!! Just running iexplore from the run dialog generates problems and your desktop becomes unstable. Someone on the web claimed ie 5.5 sp2 doesn't have it. Bullshit! I installed ie 5.5 sp2 first because the ie which comes with win98se (ie 5.5 I believe) has it. Ad-aware found it. I seached the web and found the replacement file I mentioned to you. IE still had trouble. So I upgraded to 6.0 sp1 and Alexa came back. Ie 6.0 sp1 was no more stable than ie 5.5 or ie 5.5sp2 was. I tried to go back to ie 5.5sp2 by telling ie 6.0 to remove it self. Oh sorry. Can't do that. I'm going to die now.
A better search than what I gave for google is "+Alexa +spyware +ie +explorer" First link at the top should be the one I came across. Here is the url. http://members.blue.net.au/felgall/brsie9.ht m
I have ad-aware installed. It scans my system each time I boot it up. Ad-Aware identified a key owned by Internet Explorer. A seach on google for "Alexa spyware ad-aware" will turn up relevant information to this. It's shipped FROM MICROSOFT WITH THE BROWSER. I'd show you the key but ad-aware removed it. The key is for something called Alexa. It's used according to the information on the web to track all your searches and every page you load. It's tied to a default file in your %windir%\web folder I belive. Someone made avaiable a replacement file to put in there. If you delete the Alexa key under ie's regkey settings the browser WILL NOT WORK because of default file in the web folder. Simply opening IE after removing the key and IE dies, your desktop dies and ie keeps wanting to restart. I experienced this with ie 5.5 sp2 and ie6 sp1 which is what I believe microshit currently has available for download. Replace the file in the web folder and ie is magically cured.
My Ass. That must be why they include the wonderful Alexa bullshit in ALL downloads which you can get from their site. Fuck Microsoft. No one's buying their horseshit products so they'll go behind your back to collect data on EVERY web page you go to for marketing research and just to know what your using the browser for. There is a fix available but it's still bullshit. Anyone not aware of shit should download a recent copy of ad-aware and scan the whole system. Find what's lurking on your system!
Their smaller model will do a small to medium sized room according the specs you can read on the box. The larger one witch I own can do a anywhere from a large room to a whole floor level depending on the size of your house. Plug it in and in an hour or less any odors and dust are quickly removed and you have nothing but fresh air. They work great.
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No. Echelon is that government network stretching across the the majority of the world used to spy on most all communications especially voice communication by the phone system and likely the cell networks.
Carnivore was the answer to their desire for greater listening capabilities of the general public through new phone technology that didn't have back doors built in.
Now as far as decrypting dvds so you can watch them that was decss.
Were you seriously asking or are you just a troll?
Seriously, no flamebait or trolling intended, but maybe you should just go burn in hell. Really the heat isn't that bad. Eventually you'll get used to it. Really I don't see why you would have a problem with all that heat. Nothing else seems to bother you and after all. The whole world revolves around shitheads like you who don't give a flying fuck about the environment. Want to call me anti-social and a shut-in if I avoid this kind of shit. Well get all up in my face in this physical world we live in and I'll show you just how *anti-social* I can be! =)
Really! TRY ME!!!
"I have no right to be left alone in public."
If I'm sitting on a park bench reading a book or sitting on the grass for instance in public and you come up and start soliciting me or even talking to me say about something political and I don't want to hear any more and tell you leave me alone I don't want to hear it go away and you persist. You are now harassing me and that is illegal. SO, YOU, ARE, WRONG on that point. As far as everything else. Couldn't agree more.
Your an idiot. My computer is in my bedroom. This is **ON** my private property. Anyone gaining access to my computer **IN ANY CONTEXT** are tresspassing and have gained access to information they, under normal circumstances would have **NO ACCESS TO WHAT SO EVER**. Is it legal for me to tap your phone? All I'm doing is hooking up to your line by some means and listening to conversations. How do you feel about that? You think that just because the information over my broadband connection is binary data that it's any different than a conversation over the phone?
Gaining **REMOTE** access to my computer is far and beyond that of taping some one's phone line. Now I'm not just a passive listener in the immediate sense (If I listen long enough I might learn a way to enter the picture of your life and whoever your talking to for who knows what ill purpose.) but can affect changes in your machine from affar if I so desire. Seems to me if you've gone beyond the damage of taping or tresspassing that your at least in the level of shit you would be for those offenses if not more so. The idea that you've found an all encompassing loophole and have free reign to do what you please is assenine.
People that think the way you do are just wasteing space.
You and everyone else who thinks theres a difference are idiots.
Oh look. Someone devised a new form of communication and information transfer. Guess we have to toss the current rules out the window cause there's NO WAY the laws in place can be adapted to this new process for communication. It's not as though there are common focul points in communication that can always be replied upon to be there for basing our rules and laws upon.
Just because the constuction of the vehicle or process you use to get to your end result is different in composition doesn't mean it doesn't need the same ingrediants to get there.
"Does anyone argue about the OS in a digital camera? Or a Palm? Or a cell phone? No."
I do. I won't buy hardware that I can't get support for even after the company has either ditched the product line or gone out of business. With a free-software, open-source gpl'ed or other acceptable license support will always be there. It it's not (as in there isn't a community) there will be what was available before *somewhere on the web* and you'll be free to pick it back up from where whoever else left off and continue it and solve your own problems and improve it in your own way. This is more power and choice for the user who can roll there own the ther other users they make it available too. It's superieor plain and simple. That's the way I see it. Everyone else who argues otherwise is simply wasteing their energy.
All who espouse such bullshit can go burn in hell. Any who seriously talk to me this way have a death wish.
They will support the 25 systems which you've licensed!
They WON'T support the one system which you DON'T have a license for.
HELLO!!!
Can you get a shirt anywhere that says:
"Don't Feed the Trolls"
???
So stop listening. =)
DAMN STRAIT!!! =)
I take it a step further.
"Friends" who would buy into this aren't worth spending my time with.
Family who buy into this are to be ignored until they grow a brain and ADMIT HOW STUPID THEY WERE for lending any legitamcy to these needless restrictions.
I wouldn't be happy playing with anyone who doesn't feel the way I do.
If someone wants to do something with me so bad then they're going to have to do things with me that don't involve this crap EVER!
If they have a problem with that WHO CARES.
I OBVIOUSLY DON'T
Who would want to spend time playing one of these games with me?(Retorical) Gee. I'm glad were on the same page >=)
I won't tolerate used media or renting being "stopped" for the sake of propping up failing "***GREEDY***" companies business models.
I also wouldn't tolerate it for ANY other reason EVER.
Were it to happen I would NEVER purchase the "new" media. Were they to try and sneek it buy like the ***LAME*** RIAA with their bullshit copy protected cd's I would shread the books and manuals and destroy the cd's contained there in of the ONE thing I bought and then mail it back to the right company resealed with a heaping helping of dog shit. (Return it you say? HELL NO!!! Best buy or whoever are NOT going to get back something they can sell again and retain ANY of my money as a "restocking fee")
I disagree and I don't CARE what "LAW" you think prevents me from having a right to something I bought second hand from someone else.
NO ONE has I right with ANY product to sell said product to EVERY person on the globe or in their nation, city, town, etc....
They don't have a right to expect other's who've purchased their *CRAP* (It's crap if they think they can do this!) to keep it ever more or throw it away once they have no more use for it instead of selling it to a friend or prospective garage sale customer.
Further more why would a renter or seller of second hand products have I right to sell it but I not to use it? YOU ARE A MORON.
I will "check out" what meets my standards and requirements for me to purchase it. Oh what's amatter baby? Think us "consumers" don't have a right to choose or "BE A SATISFIED ***CUSTOMER***"
GO BURN IN HELL
Leave a perfectly good market that's currently experiencing an influx of GREEDY, SELFISH, SELF CENTERED, MEGALOMANIACAL DIPSHITS for another most likely experiencing the same thing? Do you EVEN HAVE A BRAIN??? Like I'm going to *LET* those shit heads see ANY of **MY MONEY**.
"Isn't that the capitalist way?"
It bears repeating.
You... are... A... MORON....
Mark me troll or whatever I don't care. Doesn't change reality you *other* morons abusing the moderation system to raise greedy self serving perspectives without valid points.
If there is never again to be non-DRM enabled hardware then I would rather sit back and enjoy the hardware I still have while I can maintain it even if needing to go the computer equivalent of a junkyard to pick up spare relacement parts. Also enjoying any non-DRM enabled hardware while it exists. As far as kids yeah maybe for other people but not with me. I'm that politically against it and always will be. Further more those who are willing to use and purchase that hardware will NOT make good company either because they don't know and or don't care or do know and most likely are pompous asses that'll defend actions to their death that I will NEVER support.
In short. Fuck DRM and all those who produce it and away with thoe who blindly or knowingly use it. I WON'T CONDONE IT AROUND ME!
Anyone who would want to call me on it wouldn't get anywhere either. You defend any of it in ANY way and your part of the problem and I don't want ANYTHING to do with you.
I'm not saying your defending it but explaining what you see being a possible direct outcome. Even so if it becomes true. Well then see the above. =/
I also don't care if this makes me a kind of an outcast. I'll be happier anyway. Liberty or DIE!
Yeah, that's nice. I finally looked up ubiquitous
since it's been thrown around quite a bit lately.
Partial Quote from dictionary.com: (yes I'm lazy.)
"Existing or being everywhere, or in all places, at the same time; omnipresent. -- U*biq\"ui*tous*ly, adv.
In this sense is he ubiquitous. --R. D. Hitchcock."
Look ma! My stapler is greater than me and 1/3 it's way to being like God.
Give me a break!
Not to say that I don't agree with you but it's no difference to me in this day and age.
Money -> Power
Power -> Money.
If you want money it's to attain power.
If you want power it's to attain money.
Irregardless. I don't see the difference.
Think about it.
Try and argue with me but when you get done saying no it's really for this. I would ask you what is at the root of all that energy? To get either power or money in my opinion.
Or maybe it's a way for them to sell you a dvd player and smart phone that work together to scream blody murder and phone home when ever you play content the devices flag as unpaid for or what ever lame reason they want to claim your doing wrong by them this time.
Well. Gee. I wonder if he would even want to continue development for this game given blizzard's actions of late.
I mean I would so totaly want to lead people to purchase this companies products given the way they stomp on the little guy.
So I suppose you haven't visited their homepage or let alone read the comments up till now have you?
Otherwise you might realize that that's a realtime screenshot of freecraft running with the content OFF OF AN ORIGINAL WARCRAFT CD.
Point being that it's to play WARCRAFT NATIVELY ON LINUX.
DUH!
Get a clue dipshit
They weren't out to create a wholy original work!
It's supposed to be as similar to warcraft and I believe that other viking game blizzard made.
If you had ever been to their original website and bothered to read it you would KNOW this.
And if YOU bothered to follow ten or more of the links following it you would see if not the only one who feels this way.
So take that and uhh.... =)
If you read my previous post however you would know that I'm more inclinded to discard information that paints anyone who has engaged in ANY privacy invasion of ANY KIND and make the paranoid move. =)
Of course some information on the web will tell you there's nothing wrong with it and that it's harmless. But so will anyone else who may benefit from it being on your's, mine, and everyone else's system.
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If I find ANYTHING that can introduce ANY doubt (which is VERY EASY) then it's gone.
I'll reinstall the whole damned thing if I have to just to get rid of it.
To be clear. Deleting the key without replacing the file makes IE for fucking NUTS!!!
Just running iexplore from the run dialog generates problems and your desktop becomes unstable. Someone on the web claimed ie 5.5 sp2 doesn't have it. Bullshit! I installed ie 5.5 sp2 first because the ie which comes with win98se (ie 5.5 I believe) has it. Ad-aware found it.
I seached the web and found the replacement file I mentioned to you. IE still had trouble. So I upgraded to 6.0 sp1 and Alexa came back.
Ie 6.0 sp1 was no more stable than ie 5.5 or ie 5.5sp2 was. I tried to go back to ie 5.5sp2 by telling ie 6.0 to remove it self.
Oh sorry. Can't do that. I'm going to die now.
A better search than what I gave for google is "+Alexa +spyware +ie +explorer"
First link at the top should be the one I came across. Here is the url.
http://members.blue.net.au/felgall/brsie9.h
I have ad-aware installed.
It scans my system each time I boot it up.
Ad-Aware identified a key owned by Internet Explorer.
A seach on google for "Alexa spyware ad-aware" will turn up relevant information to this.
It's shipped FROM MICROSOFT WITH THE BROWSER.
I'd show you the key but ad-aware removed it.
The key is for something called Alexa.
It's used according to the information on the web to track all your searches and every page you load.
It's tied to a default file in your %windir%\web folder I belive.
Someone made avaiable a replacement file to put in there.
If you delete the Alexa key under ie's regkey settings the browser WILL NOT WORK because of default file in the web folder. Simply opening IE after removing the key and IE dies, your desktop dies and ie keeps wanting to restart.
I experienced this with ie 5.5 sp2 and ie6 sp1 which is what I believe microshit currently has available for download.
Replace the file in the web folder and ie is magically cured.
My Ass.
That must be why they include the wonderful Alexa bullshit in ALL downloads which you can get from their site.
Fuck Microsoft. No one's buying their horseshit products so they'll go behind your back to collect data on EVERY web page you go to for marketing research and just to know what your using the browser for.
There is a fix available but it's still bullshit.
Anyone not aware of shit should download a recent copy of ad-aware and scan the whole system.
Find what's lurking on your system!
Their smaller model will do a small to medium sized room according the specs you can read on the box. The larger one witch I own can do a anywhere from a large room to a whole floor level depending on the size of your house. Plug it in and in an hour or less any odors and dust are quickly removed and you have nothing but fresh air. They work great.