this has probably been stated a zillion times, but the article states 'up to 80%'. Now I'm guessing this would be necessary for those vital DOS apps that seem to populate large governmental org's, but it would seem pretty useless to have people first boot SuSE and then Windows for normal usage. Probably is just installed to make the transition easier (although I am curious how this will proceed, from a user-adoption pov)
Secondly, have you seen the site? Would you expect a site called 'WinInfo' to actually give objective information? I mean, I don't expect objective info from the various *nix-aligned sites, but you always have to take religeous info with a grain of salt:)
Even better, Alan Cox doesn't even use BK. I can see the advantages for Linus to use BK (the disadvantages are clear after McVoy's post, RMS was being very polite imo:), but you are perfectly correct: you don't _need_ BK to contribute
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nope, you're not missing something, this would be a GPL-violation. You can have two licenses, but forcing users to use a non-GPL license that conflicts with the GPL... hmm, food for the GNU/EFF lawyers, and I'm not one...
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gentoogames has indeed done this before, am thinking about releasing the next morphix GameISO release with RTCW:ET instead of ut2003 or q3a. Then again, i'm in no mood to fight up against GentooGames, although i do believe that morphing is a better way than completely rebuilding, so we'll assimilate all in the end:]
You get me a PPC, and i'll consider porting a few Morphix modules to it. Problem with Mac's is that they are so damn expensive, but it would make an interesting challenge, as livecd ppc booting was certainly possible last time i checked.
Oh well, shouldn't offer this, as before i know it i'll actually be forced into making one...
Cheers,
Alex de Landgraaf
www.morphix.org
Hmm, i was thinking about something similar: "To register idea's or other Intellectual property by means of applying for something called a 'patent'". Maybe we can get this as our first patent over here in Europe, would certainly end all this nonsense on our side...
when your country doesn't spend billions on a war nobody wants:)
I personally live in the Netherlands, where everyone gets a (small) scholership every month, people with parents not earning a lot (single-mom's) get a 200% extra, and a nice 200% extra if you don't live at home (-2500 euro a year on college costs, which is fixed throughout the country, +5000 a year when living at home). All in all, if you have a part-time job you can live like a king and drink beer and smoke pot all day long (if you want to, it's not like we _actually_ smoke pot all day. Does make the world bearable sometimes;)
Anyway, there are plans to cut the educational scholorships and have a loan-only system like the US. Looking at the $XX000+ loans a lot of students in the US have, my bet is that Europe will be just as terrible in public education in 10 years as the US is now. Hurray for the EU, globalisation and the general idea that the US is always right. Who cares for oil in Iraq when a lot of people can't even afford a good education without huge loans?
as i have something against plugging my own projects, but i believe the Morphix Livecd's would be ideal. The LightGUI comes with Icewm and runs on 64mb systems, once installed it's LightSpeed baby:)
Then again, kids really love the Game iso. Show them Pingus 0.6 and you'll have a few hours extra on your hands (only problem is that they might commandeer your PC to play it on...)
Another option would be to grab a new shiny Xbroadcast minimodule, giving you the option of one XDMCP server and a network of Xclients. Easy administrating once the server has been set up, centralised logging in, and a X client can work on a Pentium 100 without breaking a sweat. Throw in Knoppix hardware detection and no need to install anything on the clients (livecd's people, pay attention) and you have a sure winner.
Yeah, i really need a life, but honestly, making your own liveCD's is nearly as addicting as nethack. Oooo, off for another iso...
indeed, knoppix would be a nice distro to use! am working on an Expert-iso especially for these purposes (and without the cruft;) but knoppix is a nice tool-of-all-trades
Not for you maybe, but 10000 debian packages comes close to overchoice imho. Overchoice throws everything on one pile, it's time to sort the useful from the cruft.
Or do you see your lill' kid sister finding the best paint app with dselect/aptitiude/synaptic?
Experimenting with my livecd YALD on creating a small number of easy-to-use standard interfaces. Gnome2.2, KDE3.1 and, my personal favorite, an icewm+rox+idesk+phoenix install. Screenshots are online too, for the people interested.
The default Gnome2.2 install is very simple and straight-forward, Keeping It Simple is a lesson well-learned, but KDE has it's heavily intergrated desktop that tends to attract Win32-users some more. IMHO, the people trying out linux on their own now are people fed up with MS, but want to still have the idea of control over their system. People just wanting the computer to get things done should feel more at home with Gnome2. But then again, i'm a gtk-fanatic;)
However, both these desktops need a decent amount of RAM, and for 64mb and less systems icewm does a reasonable job. Would be interested in peoples experience with XFCE4, with it's CDE-look it seems easier to learn for new users (just that i can't get used to it) and it's more attractive than icewm. Rox is great, but their program-install-method is a bit unconventional. A pity, as it's desktop is great (and gtk2:o)
KNOPPIX wasn't made to install Debian, all that Knopper did was include a script (knx-hdinstall), made by Christian Perle, that works reasonably well.
Blow the debian installation into pieces? well, all it does is copy everything to harddisk. For i386. With far less flexibility. If you call that blowing into pieces then imho you don't get what Debian stands for: a free GNU/Linux distribution focussing on security, stability and flexibility, and not having the easiest installer on the planet or shipping broken unstable software.
And about mplayer: it's not the maintainers wanting it, it's the users asking for it:o)
Well, seeing this article i just have to plug Morphix again, working on a Game-only module consisting of 400megs of free-software games (frozen-bubble, freeciv, bzflag, and the rest are all included, however nvidia -modules still are a problem). It's a bit pre-mature, but finally we have a useful destination for your nearest M$-pc: throw in Morphix and do some real gamerlamering!!!:o)
If the site is a bit slow, check out the mirror, kindly hosted by xs4all
Hmm, nice point, working in that direction on Morphix. The whole point is that it consists of different compressed filesystems, each one with a single purpose, in order to increase reusablility and lessen effects of attacks.
I was playing around with the idea of making chroot-ed jails for a server-based module, but using UML might be the way to go. I'm still working out the installing-procedure, trying to make up my mind if i want a regular debian-distro after an install or a setup like what you are describing.
And yes, it is based on KNOPPIX. well, the 33MB base module is:o)
Yups, i too have looked down the 3d-toolkit lane, saw fresco and guessed i could spend my time on better things. What the poster is aiming at (or what i can comprehend from his words), fresco already has, or nearly is there. Blender otoh is a waste of time imo. I hope something useful comes out of the whole open-source thing they hyped the community with, but until they sort out their code and make it usable for other developers i for one am not going to look at it again.
I would call it immitation, not innovation. But then again, 99% of all innovations are just immitating ones that someone else already had thought up.
I hope for Miguel and the rest that Mono works out nicely, but imo it's just a workaround, and not a solution, to the evil empire (if ya can't beat em, don't join them, just hit harder;o)
Yeah, Windows created the GUI, suuure. Ever seen a Mac? We had gui's while everyone with PC's were playing Commander Keen way before 1990.
Sure, to eject floppies you had to throw them in the trashcan, but it's always better than having to actually push the button yourself;)
Even so, neither Apple or Windows 'invented' the GUI. Even Mac OS is a knockoff of some ol' horrid gui, years before you ever had 3.1. Forgot it's name, too lazy to google, but stating that Windows actually invented something instead of making a crummy knockoff is just plain wrong.
But i must admit Bill did do something right: marketing and hyping products. Technically, Win95 was just a MS-DOG frontend, but boy they could market it just right. And they havn't stopped since:o)
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My thoughts exactly, problem is that this must be one huge (numbers and size) pack to devastate the earth, as many would miss their target.
Imho there must have been a major collision relativly close to earth that caused for hurling massive amounts of relativly small asteroids at earth. The chance that a random "pack" of asteroids would all hit earth without direct cause seems to me to be very slim...
As last year we used starlogo 1.2 in our AI Self Organising Systems course. Very nice tool to quickly get surprising results. That Starlogo is just an extension of Logo would be put too simple, as it basicly is a very different enviroment (but they just kept the turtle-naming:)
Oh well, for those interrested in the course (in Dutch), this is the url: http://www.cs.vu.nl/~zos Even more surprising is just having given a speach on the subject yesterday, again using starlogo to demonstrate a couple of examples (Selection, Genetic algorithims and some examples about Life)
Like duh, you didn't think this was serious, did you? I mean, come on, it's all a practical joke just to annoy every OS-maker out there to stick billions of cash in lawyers to fight it out. While they are busy, we'll just take over the world with Gentoo and emacs... no one will stop us now Blinky ! No one! [insert very haunting evil laugh here]
greetings,
the Brain
And you're right about that Apple thingy... next release (Lindows 95) will be renamed to OS-XXX, we can't leave all those Mac converts out there in the cold, our next innovation will be click-and-cum!
Arg, gotta stop watching all that cartoon pr0n, it gets to ya...
To comment on your senseless troll: blender is not the only 3D rendering app for linux. Take Maya for instance, i think even your wannabee-OS supports it. Yes, it costs cold hard cash, and thats why freeing Blender is a Good Thing(tm), as it brings even more great software and derivatives under the GPL freedom. You might be happy with your pirated software, but we like our source, free. No hard feelings.
What we still miss? Hmm, we could use a few viruses or security holes. Maybe your latest-and-greatest KillemAll FPS. But seriously, we have better things to do =)
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this has probably been stated a zillion times, but the article states 'up to 80%'. Now I'm guessing this would be necessary for those vital DOS apps that seem to populate large governmental org's, but it would seem pretty useless to have people first boot SuSE and then Windows for normal usage. Probably is just installed to make the transition easier (although I am curious how this will proceed, from a user-adoption pov)
:)
Secondly, have you seen the site? Would you expect a site called 'WinInfo' to actually give objective information? I mean, I don't expect objective info from the various *nix-aligned sites, but you always have to take religeous info with a grain of salt
Even better, Alan Cox doesn't even use BK. I can see the advantages for Linus to use BK (the disadvantages are clear after McVoy's post, RMS was being very polite imo :), but you are perfectly correct: you don't _need_ BK to contribute
nope, you're not missing something, this would be a GPL-violation. You can have two licenses, but forcing users to use a non-GPL license that conflicts with the GPL... hmm, food for the GNU/EFF lawyers, and I'm not one...
You're an american. nuff said...
gentoogames has indeed done this before, am thinking about releasing the next morphix GameISO release with RTCW:ET instead of ut2003 or q3a. Then again, i'm in no mood to fight up against GentooGames, although i do believe that morphing is a better way than completely rebuilding, so we'll assimilate all in the end :]
IDDQD & IDKFA
phear me, for i am god!
Gawd, those ol' doom days really ate away my mind...
You get me a PPC, and i'll consider porting a few Morphix modules to it. Problem with Mac's is that they are so damn expensive, but it would make an interesting challenge, as livecd ppc booting was certainly possible last time i checked. Oh well, shouldn't offer this, as before i know it i'll actually be forced into making one... Cheers, Alex de Landgraaf www.morphix.org
Hmm, i was thinking about something similar: "To register idea's or other Intellectual property by means of applying for something called a 'patent'". Maybe we can get this as our first patent over here in Europe, would certainly end all this nonsense on our side...
when your country doesn't spend billions on a war nobody wants :)
;)
I personally live in the Netherlands, where everyone gets a (small) scholership every month, people with parents not earning a lot (single-mom's) get a 200% extra, and a nice 200% extra if you don't live at home (-2500 euro a year on college costs, which is fixed throughout the country, +5000 a year when living at home). All in all, if you have a part-time job you can live like a king and drink beer and smoke pot all day long (if you want to, it's not like we _actually_ smoke pot all day. Does make the world bearable sometimes
Anyway, there are plans to cut the educational scholorships and have a loan-only system like the US. Looking at the $XX000+ loans a lot of students in the US have, my bet is that Europe will be just as terrible in public education in 10 years as the US is now. Hurray for the EU, globalisation and the general idea that the US is always right. Who cares for oil in Iraq when a lot of people can't even afford a good education without huge loans?
Then again, kids really love the Game iso. Show them Pingus 0.6 and you'll have a few hours extra on your hands (only problem is that they might commandeer your PC to play it on...)
Another option would be to grab a new shiny Xbroadcast minimodule, giving you the option of one XDMCP server and a network of Xclients. Easy administrating once the server has been set up, centralised logging in, and a X client can work on a Pentium 100 without breaking a sweat. Throw in Knoppix hardware detection and no need to install anything on the clients (livecd's people, pay attention) and you have a sure winner.
Yeah, i really need a life, but honestly, making your own liveCD's is nearly as addicting as nethack. Oooo, off for another iso...
indeed, knoppix would be a nice distro to use! am working on an Expert-iso especially for these purposes (and without the cruft ;) but knoppix is a nice tool-of-all-trades
Or do you see your lill' kid sister finding the best paint app with dselect/aptitiude/synaptic?
Overchoice is everywhere :o)
The default Gnome2.2 install is very simple and straight-forward, Keeping It Simple is a lesson well-learned, but KDE has it's heavily intergrated desktop that tends to attract Win32-users some more. IMHO, the people trying out linux on their own now are people fed up with MS, but want to still have the idea of control over their system. People just wanting the computer to get things done should feel more at home with Gnome2. But then again, i'm a gtk-fanatic ;)
However, both these desktops need a decent amount of RAM, and for 64mb and less systems icewm does a reasonable job. Would be interested in peoples experience with XFCE4, with it's CDE-look it seems easier to learn for new users (just that i can't get used to it) and it's more attractive than icewm. Rox is great, but their program-install-method is a bit unconventional. A pity, as it's desktop is great (and gtk2 :o)
KNOPPIX wasn't made to install Debian, all that Knopper did was include a script (knx-hdinstall), made by Christian Perle, that works reasonably well.
Blow the debian installation into pieces? well, all it does is copy everything to harddisk. For i386. With far less flexibility. If you call that blowing into pieces then imho you don't get what Debian stands for: a free GNU/Linux distribution focussing on security, stability and flexibility, and not having the easiest installer on the planet or shipping broken unstable software.
And about mplayer: it's not the maintainers wanting it, it's the users asking for it :o)
If the site is a bit slow, check out the mirror, kindly hosted by xs4all
I was playing around with the idea of making chroot-ed jails for a server-based module, but using UML might be the way to go. I'm still working out the installing-procedure, trying to make up my mind if i want a regular debian-distro after an install or a setup like what you are describing.
And yes, it is based on KNOPPIX. well, the 33MB base module is :o)
Yups, i too have looked down the 3d-toolkit lane, saw fresco and guessed i could spend my time on better things. What the poster is aiming at (or what i can comprehend from his words), fresco already has, or nearly is there.
Blender otoh is a waste of time imo. I hope something useful comes out of the whole open-source thing they hyped the community with, but until they sort out their code and make it usable for other developers i for one am not going to look at it again.
I would call it immitation, not innovation. But then again, 99% of all innovations are just immitating ones that someone else already had thought up.
;o)
I hope for Miguel and the rest that Mono works out nicely, but imo it's just a workaround, and not a solution, to the evil empire (if ya can't beat em, don't join them, just hit harder
Sure, to eject floppies you had to throw them in the trashcan, but it's always better than having to actually push the button yourself ;)
Even so, neither Apple or Windows 'invented' the GUI. Even Mac OS is a knockoff of some ol' horrid gui, years before you ever had 3.1. Forgot it's name, too lazy to google, but stating that Windows actually invented something instead of making a crummy knockoff is just plain wrong.
But i must admit Bill did do something right: marketing and hyping products. Technically, Win95 was just a MS-DOG frontend, but boy they could market it just right. And they havn't stopped since :o)
www.av.com ;)
Imho there must have been a major collision relativly close to earth that caused for hurling massive amounts of relativly small asteroids at earth. The chance that a random "pack" of asteroids would all hit earth without direct cause seems to me to be very slim...
Guess it's too cold to bitch about censorship there :)
interestingly, the dutch media has been under quite a lot of critisism for being too left and tolerant. Freedom is relative...
As last year we used starlogo 1.2 in our AI Self Organising Systems course. Very nice tool to quickly get surprising results. That Starlogo is just an extension of Logo would be put too simple, as it basicly is a very different enviroment (but they just kept the turtle-naming :)
Oh well, for those interrested in the course (in Dutch), this is the url: http://www.cs.vu.nl/~zos
Even more surprising is just having given a speach on the subject yesterday, again using starlogo to demonstrate a couple of examples (Selection, Genetic algorithims and some examples about Life)
Have fun!
greetings,
the Brain
And you're right about that Apple thingy... next release (Lindows 95) will be renamed to OS-XXX, we can't leave all those Mac converts out there in the cold, our next innovation will be click-and-cum!
Arg, gotta stop watching all that cartoon pr0n, it gets to ya...
To comment on your senseless troll: blender is not the only 3D rendering app for linux.
Take Maya for instance, i think even your wannabee-OS supports it. Yes, it costs cold hard cash, and thats why freeing Blender is a Good Thing(tm), as it brings even more great software and derivatives under the GPL freedom. You might be happy with your pirated software, but we like our source, free. No hard feelings.
What we still miss? Hmm, we could use a few viruses or security holes. Maybe your latest-and-greatest KillemAll FPS. But seriously, we have better things to do =)