After having a day fixing friends/relatives pc's, removing all those viruses, cleaning all that unwanted bloatware, I must say that linux would save me heaps of time;)
Personally, linux is saving me time. Not only me btw. Thanks to that bloated XFree, my mom now runs a simple Gnome desktop on a simple 133, but uses one of my servers for the X apps, and she loves it. Okay, setting things up did take a few hours, but i really like the way debian is going. Note that she doesn't know shit about linux, and i did have to explain a few things (what is the browser, what is my icq), but a simple user doesn't need more. Users can be content with linux, it just takes a little effort.
True, linux on the desktop is taking more time than we would want it to, but we are getting there. The apps are there, the drivers are there (mostley, but modules work great for any pc with recent hardware), X IS stable as hell, it's up to one distro to bind it all into place. But in the end, it's a geeks choice what OS he/she uses, nothing wrong with that. Personally, i'm getting used to my freedom, wouldn't want a win32 box, waste of precious hardware:o)
Am i alone when saying that you can only code when having a substantial pack of paper to draw datastructures, ideas, flowcharts and the like?
As second-year CS, first-year AI student i have had quite a few programming exams on paper, aceing them all. If you know a language, be it Java, C++ or Prolog (yummie!), it doesn't matter where you code on, be it paper, an old 386 or a piece of toilet paper, coding remains coding. If you can't get your ideas on papier, in models or source, you can't code, imho.
Now i do agree that coding on a nice workstation is a whole lot faster than on plain paper, but when coding during an exam it isn't about being as fast as possible, but being as neat & secure as possible to get your code right in one go. It's about knowledge, not about speed...
I've still got an exams and essays in the next few weeks! How can they expect me to get anything done now? You people are horrible!
Wait, is the Linux client out yet? that might just save me a week or so. Do have to cancel everything in the holidays though, but it's not like that matters. Thank god for not having a life:o)
I guess this is what Stallman means when attacking 'Open Source': This is just another step in turning GNU/Linux into a slimey commercial product. These companies arn't interested in good, free software but in making a quick buck from other businesses who have heard that "linux is an alternative".
I'm glad RedHat doesn't join this gang, they know and listen to the community (Can't say the same about Caldera:) Although I do agree in following standards, I don't agree that new ones are needed just to attract cash. Shoo, Shoo, we don't want you, we don't need you.
If you want a unified system, use Debian. Pure freedom. Free as in freedom of speach. So there:)
Now if it was an Intel+Micro$oft+IBM merger, i would bite:o)
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You forgot:
- best fscking helpdesk there is, answers email with the hour, and great customer-breivings. Great service. - Heaps of linux/bsd/unix-support. This is a geek-ISP for geeks. - You can choose your own hostname:D
In other words: an ISP that knows what we want, and gives it the way we like it:)
This is a problem i was also in about a half year ago. I was looking around for projects and tried out a few where i could flex my code-muscles. Problem is that you need people who are just as motivated and are about of the same experience, only then can everyone learn from eachother.
Ohwell, after trying out a few i just joined a nice beginning project with a few friends, basically starting it out. You may exagerate the time that it costs to start a project, a good idea and your almost there. After coding on the project on and off for the lasts 3 months, i can say i've learned a great deal. Think up an open source project that doesn't fullfill your wishes and build apon it or start your own:)
Oh, and about the project, we're working on an msnclient that doesn't suck in GTK+ (sorry, but kmerlin and ccmsn just don't do what we want:) Everything has been coded from the ground up, we wanted to start clean. Chatting is being rouned up and work resonably, filetransfers are now being tested, after which we'll open up development and officialy make it public.
Bottom line: just try try try, and if that doesn't work start up one with a few friends. The reward in knowledge is far greater than the time that it costs to get involved!
He complained to me repeatedly about the GPL and that he was going to close off Mosix and that Linus is a fool.
This sounds more like bitterness. A wild guess: maybe the Prof. was "turned down" by Linus when he asked for mosix to be added in the kernel-tree? If the Prof was really going proprietary, why would he release Mosix to the public after your statement?
Can't look inside his head from a distance, but calling someone a fool is not something that pops up in ones mind. After you announced the fork, maybe his bitterness was over come by his pride about Mosix...
ohwell, just my 2 cents. Hope that the Prof now becomes resonable, joining forces would be more productive than working seperated...
All around me i see people try linux, and schools starting to use it in projects. As a good geek, i helpt out and promote the greatest OS known to man to the masses on a day to day basis.
Microsoft is increasing prices, the IT sector is having a hard time, but coding and improving opensource software hasn't stopped (Gnome 2.0, KDE 3, Open Office, all major distributions have released or are planning to release new distro's, Mozilla becoming better than sex(r), Evolution 1.0, PostgreSQL (and Mysql, kinda) being a condender to all major databases, and not to forget 2.4.* becoming more stable everyday (okay, it doesn't go okay EVERYday...), and the list goes on and on )
And, besides all these really nice goodies, more and more people are trying out Linux and opensource software. It's becoming more and more mainstream everyday. A whole army of teenagers are experimenting with Linux on a day to day basis. Don't worry about the next generation(r), just wait and see. By the time all you 1-st generation hackers are retiered, Open Source software will be used and known by everyone one on a day to day basis. Server, workstation, embedded, mobile or wearable. Have a bit of faith;)
"The terrorists who hijacked U.S. airplanes on September 11 analyzed the airline security system until they found a weakness, and then they exploited it. Much in the same way, industrial terrorists analyzed IIS Web server security until they found a weakness, and then they exploited it. If Gartner wrote an equivalent recommendation for business travelers, would it be to take the bus rather than risk airline travel? That would be a victory for terrorism, as would abandoning IIS."
Just as a note: what if you truely stretch this metafor into bus/air-travel?
What if you could get a bus travel that is not only saver, but faster, more reliable, free and easier to support? Who would travel by plane anyway?
Oh well, might not be totally on-topic, and you have to give the guy some credit: an A for effort. The rest of his talk is pure propaganda.
Hmmm... am i the only one to see a link between Osama B. L's talks and the rant of this fellow? With Osama's terrorist network and M$'s buggy software and army of mindless GUI-programmer-wannabe's, they could disrupt the whole world. Oh wait, they did...
Well, i guess it depends on what you call romantic. As candles arn't much use with a couple of trillion gallons of water around you, glowing fish might just be the "next best thing"...
Yep, and the third great war would errupt on a late summer day in the first year of the millenium. War for 30+ years, world economy crash, hunderds of thousands dead, bla bla bla...
According to Nostradamus, the next great war would start in the year of the first millenium, in the late-summer (august/september). A year ago, i read his book and watched for signs of something terrible happening, if only sub-conciously, but i guess i miscalculated: the first year of the millenium is 2001...
Anyone can say what he wants about him, but i'm afraid, in retrospect, Nostradamus was awfully correct.
I morn for the people who died in this attack, i morn for America, and i morn for the dark age the world has just entered.
I don't know how you see the EU, but you clearly don't see it as an EU-citizen. The EU-senate is a bunch of corrupted ex-politicians, and money ($$$ or E's) is all what matters. The EU and the US often have small strugles about trade and enviroment, but on the whole both unions are corrupted to the bone.
The chance that the EU will ever punish microsoft is a day i am hoping for, but that day is far away, and, likewise, democracy is nowhere to be found in the EU...
I've been install software, hardware, messing with everything, and it hasn't crashed or slowed down a bit in 3 days
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Wow. 3 whole days. That MUST be an improvement for you.
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Even my laptop (Debian G/L) has a bigger uptime. Get over yourself.
Your indoctrination about this OS fascinates me (and the rest of the "XP = kewl" posts here).
It's also incredibly fast, definitely a big improvement over 9x and Linux apps are much faster, and games are faster and definitely much smoother.
Linux aps are faster? wonder how M$ did that without breaking the GPL;)
It's clear to see that you havn't seen 2.4.* in action, come back when XP boots in 3 seconds
Ahh, games. Thats probably the only real reason to use Windows for "geeks". That and the fear of learning something else besides "point-and-click".
Oh well, i've had my rant for today. All you XP-(l)users may mod me down, it's a free world.
PS: Multiuser support, lol:)
PPS: "G" menu? Have you ever even tried Gnome (if that is what you are trying to mention)? We have a nice little foot, not that anyone ever uses it. Instant Application launcher in under 1 sec. It's called a terminal...
'so that artificial brains contribute to human intelligence rather than opposing it.'
I can't see how interaction would make AI less dangerous than "stand-alone". I mean, if both are connected, isn't the mind of the human also at risk of being "0wned"?
Besides, if an artificial intelligence would become as powerful or even more than a human, would that be a threat of some sort? An AI would only become a threat if they where programmed incorrectly or without any moral judgement. And we aren't that stupid, are we?
Good morning Doctor Chandra. This is Hal. I am ready for my first lesson today...
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Personally, linux is saving me time. Not only me btw. Thanks to that bloated XFree, my mom now runs a simple Gnome desktop on a simple 133, but uses one of my servers for the X apps, and she loves it. Okay, setting things up did take a few hours, but i really like the way debian is going. Note that she doesn't know shit about linux, and i did have to explain a few things (what is the browser, what is my icq), but a simple user doesn't need more. Users can be content with linux, it just takes a little effort.
True, linux on the desktop is taking more time than we would want it to, but we are getting there. The apps are there, the drivers are there (mostley, but modules work great for any pc with recent hardware), X IS stable as hell, it's up to one distro to bind it all into place. :o)
But in the end, it's a geeks choice what OS he/she uses, nothing wrong with that. Personally, i'm getting used to my freedom, wouldn't want a win32 box, waste of precious hardware
As second-year CS, first-year AI student i have had quite a few programming exams on paper, aceing them all. If you know a language, be it Java, C++ or Prolog (yummie!), it doesn't matter where you code on, be it paper, an old 386 or a piece of toilet paper, coding remains coding. If you can't get your ideas on papier, in models or source, you can't code, imho.
Now i do agree that coding on a nice workstation is a whole lot faster than on plain paper, but when coding during an exam it isn't about being as fast as possible, but being as neat & secure as possible to get your code right in one go. It's about knowledge, not about speed...
I've still got an exams and essays in the next few weeks! How can they expect me to get anything done now? You people are horrible!
:o)
Wait, is the Linux client out yet? that might just save me a week or so. Do have to cancel everything in the holidays though, but it's not like that matters. Thank god for not having a life
I'm glad RedHat doesn't join this gang, they know and listen to the community (Can't say the same about Caldera :) Although I do agree in following standards, I don't agree that new ones are needed just to attract cash. Shoo, Shoo, we don't want you, we don't need you.
If you want a unified system, use Debian. Pure freedom. Free as in freedom of speach. So there :)
Kewl, that redirect site is slashdotted, that will teach them messing with our 1337 DDoS-powers! pfah!
apt-get install humor :o)
Now if it was an Intel+Micro$oft+IBM merger, i would bite :o)
You forgot:
:D
:)
- best fscking helpdesk there is, answers email with the hour, and great customer-breivings. Great service.
- Heaps of linux/bsd/unix-support. This is a geek-ISP for geeks.
- You can choose your own hostname
In other words: an ISP that knows what we want, and gives it the way we like it
Ohwell, after trying out a few i just joined a nice beginning project with a few friends, basically starting it out. You may exagerate the time that it costs to start a project, a good idea and your almost there. After coding on the project on and off for the lasts 3 months, i can say i've learned a great deal. Think up an open source project that doesn't fullfill your wishes and build apon it or start your own :)
Oh, and about the project, we're working on an msnclient that doesn't suck in GTK+ (sorry, but kmerlin and ccmsn just don't do what we want :) Everything has been coded from the ground up, we wanted to start clean. Chatting is being rouned up and work resonably, filetransfers are now being tested, after which we'll open up development and officialy make it public.
Bottom line: just try try try, and if that doesn't work start up one with a few friends. The reward in knowledge is far greater than the time that it costs to get involved!
Hope you have a wonderful wedding and that the love between you two survives the chains of marriage ;)
Can't look inside his head from a distance, but calling someone a fool is not something that pops up in ones mind. After you announced the fork, maybe his bitterness was over come by his pride about Mosix...
ohwell, just my 2 cents. Hope that the Prof now becomes resonable, joining forces would be more productive than working seperated...
Microsoft is increasing prices, the IT sector is having a hard time, but coding and improving opensource software hasn't stopped (Gnome 2.0, KDE 3, Open Office, all major distributions have released or are planning to release new distro's, Mozilla becoming better than sex(r), Evolution 1.0, PostgreSQL (and Mysql, kinda) being a condender to all major databases, and not to forget 2.4.* becoming more stable everyday (okay, it doesn't go okay EVERYday...), and the list goes on and on )
And, besides all these really nice goodies, more and more people are trying out Linux and opensource software. It's becoming more and more mainstream everyday. A whole army of teenagers are experimenting with Linux on a day to day basis. Don't worry about the next generation(r), just wait and see. By the time all you 1-st generation hackers are retiered, Open Source software will be used and known by everyone one on a day to day basis. Server, workstation, embedded, mobile or wearable. ;)
Have a bit of faith
greets, :)
the next generation
You're right, MSN does block specificaly. read the yahoo-article, as there it only blocks Opera if you type Opera correctly :)
Just as a note: what if you truely stretch this metafor into bus/air-travel?
What if you could get a bus travel that is not only saver, but faster, more reliable, free and easier to support? Who would travel by plane anyway?
Oh well, might not be totally on-topic, and you have to give the guy some credit: an A for effort. The rest of his talk is pure propaganda.
Hmmm... am i the only one to see a link between Osama B. L's talks and the rant of this fellow? With Osama's terrorist network and M$'s buggy software and army of mindless GUI-programmer-wannabe's, they could disrupt the whole world. Oh wait, they did...
This post isn't worth my 2 cents
Well, i guess it depends on what you call romantic. As candles arn't much use with a couple of trillion gallons of water around you, glowing fish might just be the "next best thing"...
and the prunes would be very fresh, mind you...
I for one had the same idea when i read the paper. MOSIX is parallel-processing made easy, virtually distribuing anything with a single fork().
If this is what microsoft is planning to do in the next 10 years, then they have just become redundant... oh, guess they already were...
Heh, IRC is pretty busy aswell. Don't find it very surprising, mind you...
Yep, and the third great war would errupt on a late summer day in the first year of the millenium. War for 30+ years, world economy crash, hunderds of thousands dead, bla bla bla...
i really hope he is wrong...
The most probable way is war. war against the group who did this. I'm talking about WW3...
According to Nostradamus, the next great war would start in the year of the first millenium, in the late-summer (august/september). A year ago, i read his book and watched for signs of something terrible happening, if only sub-conciously, but i guess i miscalculated: the first year of the millenium is 2001...
Anyone can say what he wants about him, but i'm afraid, in retrospect, Nostradamus was awfully correct.
I morn for the people who died in this attack, i morn for America, and i morn for the dark age the world has just entered.
I hope he will be wrong...
now all we need is a linux port to homestation, and the bugger would nearly have a use.
Mod me down, i don't care
My karma is higher than your IQ
I don't know how you see the EU, but you clearly don't see it as an EU-citizen. The EU-senate is a bunch of corrupted ex-politicians, and money ($$$ or E's) is all what matters. The EU and the US often have small strugles about trade and enviroment, but on the whole both unions are corrupted to the bone.
The chance that the EU will ever punish microsoft is a day i am hoping for, but that day is far away, and, likewise, democracy is nowhere to be found in the EU...
Even my laptop (Debian G/L) has a bigger uptime. Get over yourself.
Your indoctrination about this OS fascinates me (and the rest of the "XP = kewl" posts here).
Linux aps are faster? wonder how M$ did that without breaking the GPLIt's clear to see that you havn't seen 2.4.* in action, come back when XP boots in 3 seconds
Ahh, games. Thats probably the only real reason to use Windows for "geeks". That and the fear of learning something else besides "point-and-click".
Oh well, i've had my rant for today. All you XP-(l)users may mod me down, it's a free world.
PS: Multiuser support, lol :)
PPS: "G" menu? Have you ever even tried Gnome (if that is what you are trying to mention)? We have a nice little foot, not that anyone ever uses it. Instant Application launcher in under 1 sec. It's called a terminal...
Besides, if an artificial intelligence would become as powerful or even more than a human, would that be a threat of some sort? An AI would only become a threat if they where programmed incorrectly or without any moral judgement. And we aren't that stupid, are we?
Good morning Doctor Chandra. This is Hal. I am ready for my first lesson today...