Because it takes Microsoft far longer to release a patch for an OS than an application.
Here's a question - who do I sue if that bug in Konqueror causes me to lose money? Nobody! Microsoft is a corporation, they have to be sure whatever they fix doesn't create 14 other security holes or Joe Schmoe will sue their pants off and in turn piss off their shareholders. Yes, Microsoft hasn't done a great job. No, I don't think they'd do a better job if they released a patch in 90 minutes.
This "makes sense" up until the point where you have to patch your kernel instead of upgrading a library. When OpenSSL had a bug, they fixed it and you could upgrade OpenSSL. When Konqueror had this specific bug, it could be uprgraded easily enough. Now Windows users have to patch their entire OS to fix this (or just use another browser that doesn't use the crypto-in-the-kernel routines).
Why is everyone nitpicking over this? What difference does it make if one has to patch an application or an OS (Is an OS not an application?) What other crypto services do you use in Windows at the moment outside of your browser? Ok, Ok, I know you all hate MS/Windows, but this is just childish.
Does anyone know of a definition of "News" that includes the concept of inserting one's own opinion on a story? We certainly do not have real journalists here - that's for sure. If you're going to put a spin on a story/article, you'd better damn well make sure it makes sense. Jackass.
I haven't had a chance to look @ the claim yet - however, when you go to a web site (i.e. www.aj.com), you are usually logged in as "Anonymous" are you not - by default? And "Buddy List" is synonimous (sp?) with Access Control List, User List, etc...
A method and system for interactively responding to queries from a remotely located user includes a computer server system configured to receiving an instant message query or request from the user over the Internet. The query or request is interpreted and appropriate action is taken, such as accessing a local or remote data resource and formulating an answer to the user's query. The answer is formatted as appropriate and returned to the user as an instant message or via another route specified by the user. A method and system of providing authenticated access to a given web page via instant messaging is also disclosed.
I'm this is way too vague. Aside from all the IRC bots in existance, What about "Ask Jeeves"? We can certainly dispute whether a web browser/site is an 'instant messaging' server. If I "ask" jeeves for something and it returns my query, then is it not prior art?
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"What substance was Han Solo encased in? No... No... I'm sorry, the correct answer is 'who gives a shit'."
Come on now, that's not a valid point.. Is Linux x86 stable? Yes. Are there a million possible configuration out there? Yes. If this were really the case, we'd all be running original IBM machines with Microchannel architecture + all IBM peripherals b/c we know it'll work just fine with IBM DOS 5000XP
"Up next...review of Rocky five....thousand." - Spaceballs
Then why do they fucking speed, if they're going to sit there at the side of the road, for the same amount of time it would have taken to drive through at the speed limit?
The need for speed my friend! Why the fuck do people overclock their Windows systems when it'll take them the same amount of time to bluescreen?;-)
Well, it might be thought provoking to the average joe blow idiot. If you actually knew anything about the world's poorer regions, you'd know that:
The United Nations and World Bank use $1-$2 (PPP) per day as an international poverty line, indicating a lack of access to basic sustenance. In 1998 1.2 billion people had consumption levels less that $1 per day and 2.8 billion less than $2 per day.
I hear the traffic is something awful in Atlanta. I make 35K - which is not bad for a recent grad (1 year experience in Software Dev)...but it's way lower than what I should be able to get elsewhere...
Does anyone really care? Come September 11th, 2002, I wouldn't be surprised if/. didn't post a story about the attacks - yet we post more anti-microsoft bullshit. Get a life folks.
The person who submited the article is seriously overestimating the importance of this. People without computers don't hack their x-boxen. Trust me on this one. I doubt anyone is going to go out and buy an x-box just because of this. But I do wonder weather MS will think this a Good Thing(TM) or not.
Yeah, the person who submitted this article is overestimating the importance of this - unlike the weekly Mozilla article "Hey guys, we changed something" which isn't quite as annoying and is much more important. *sarcasm*
Kinesis Classic Keyboards are amazing. Definitely worth the $280 price tag (Professional Model) I paid for it. I used to come home from work (email tech support at the time) and my wrists would be completely numb. 3 weeks after getting my Kinesis keyboard, I felt no pain. www.kinesis-ergo.com
What if we tried to melt all the ice (and also create an atmosphere with part of it)? (ignoring the fact that it might take many, many, many years.) How would it affect the overall temperature on Mars?
...The Mozilla crew sneezed today. Come on folks - it's just another build with "RC3" tacked onto the name. Yes, it's good that it's nearing "completion" or whatever that means in software terms.
American programmers are probably fat, but lazy? Ha! I've worked my fair share of 60-70 hour weeks for $35k/yr.
And we're so lazy, that we can't produce decent software, like Windows, & Office. Oh by the way, what's the rest of the world using as their desktop OS & office suite? Couldn't be an AMERICAN product could it? Here's a big fuck-off for ya.
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"...talk with the people next to you..."
Geeks don't socialize face to face!!!
We all know EULAs don't stand a chance in court. I'm a programmer by trade, but I don't claim to know how to write a solid/secure OS. Do you?
Because it takes Microsoft far longer to release a patch for an OS than an application.
Here's a question - who do I sue if that bug in Konqueror causes me to lose money? Nobody! Microsoft is a corporation, they have to be sure whatever they fix doesn't create 14 other security holes or Joe Schmoe will sue their pants off and in turn piss off their shareholders. Yes, Microsoft hasn't done a great job. No, I don't think they'd do a better job if they released a patch in 90 minutes.
This "makes sense" up until the point where you have to patch your kernel instead of upgrading a library. When OpenSSL had a bug, they fixed it and you could upgrade OpenSSL. When Konqueror had this specific bug, it could be uprgraded easily enough. Now Windows users have to patch their entire OS to fix this (or just use another browser that doesn't use the crypto-in-the-kernel routines).
Why is everyone nitpicking over this? What difference does it make if one has to patch an application or an OS (Is an OS not an application?) What other crypto services do you use in Windows at the moment outside of your browser? Ok, Ok, I know you all hate MS/Windows, but this is just childish.
"Slashdot: News for Nerds."
Does anyone know of a definition of "News" that includes the concept of inserting one's own opinion on a story? We certainly do not have real journalists here - that's for sure. If you're going to put a spin on a story/article, you'd better damn well make sure it makes sense. Jackass.
I haven't had a chance to look @ the claim yet - however, when you go to a web site (i.e. www.aj.com), you are usually logged in as "Anonymous" are you not - by default? And "Buddy List" is synonimous (sp?) with Access Control List, User List, etc...
A method and system for interactively responding to queries from a remotely located user includes a computer server system configured to receiving an instant message query or request from the user over the Internet. The query or request is interpreted and appropriate action is taken, such as accessing a local or remote data resource and formulating an answer to the user's query. The answer is formatted as appropriate and returned to the user as an instant message or via another route specified by the user. A method and system of providing authenticated access to a given web page via instant messaging is also disclosed.
I'm this is way too vague. Aside from all the IRC bots in existance, What about "Ask Jeeves"? We can certainly dispute whether a web browser/site is an 'instant messaging' server. If I "ask" jeeves for something and it returns my query, then is it not prior art?
"What substance was Han Solo encased in? No... No... I'm sorry, the correct answer is 'who gives a shit'."
-nuff said.
Come on now, that's not a valid point.. Is Linux x86 stable? Yes. Are there a million possible configuration out there? Yes. If this were really the case, we'd all be running original IBM machines with Microchannel architecture + all IBM peripherals b/c we know it'll work just fine with IBM DOS 5000XP
"Up next...review of Rocky five....thousand." - Spaceballs
Then why do they fucking speed, if they're going to sit there at the side of the road, for the same amount of time it would have taken to drive through at the speed limit?
;-)
The need for speed my friend! Why the fuck do people overclock their Windows systems when it'll take them the same amount of time to bluescreen?
Well, it might be thought provoking to the average joe blow idiot. If you actually knew anything about the world's poorer regions, you'd know that:
The United Nations and World Bank use $1-$2 (PPP) per day as an international poverty line, indicating a lack of access to basic sustenance. In 1998 1.2 billion people had consumption levels less that $1 per day and 2.8 billion less than $2 per day.
How did this actually get posted on /. ?
I hear the traffic is something awful in Atlanta. I make 35K - which is not bad for a recent grad (1 year experience in Software Dev) ...but it's way lower than what I should be able to get elsewhere...
hmm Twice as much? Where at? And how's the cost of living there (rent, etc?
The Canadian Ballet Rocks! Kenmore here! ...Goddamn Stupid Filler...
Buffalo does not have 15 feet of snow on the ground year-round.
Today Isolated T-Storms 80
Sat Partly Cloudy 82
Sun Partly Cloudy 87
Mon Scattered T-Storms 87
Does anyone really care? Come September 11th, 2002, I wouldn't be surprised if /. didn't post a story about the attacks - yet we post more anti-microsoft bullshit. Get a life folks.
The person who submited the article is seriously overestimating the importance of this. People without computers don't hack their x-boxen. Trust me on this one. I doubt anyone is going to go out and buy an x-box just because of this. But I do wonder weather MS will think this a Good Thing(TM) or not.
Yeah, the person who submitted this article is overestimating the importance of this - unlike the weekly Mozilla article "Hey guys, we changed something" which isn't quite as annoying and is much more important. *sarcasm*
Kinesis Classic Keyboards are amazing. Definitely worth the $280 price tag (Professional Model) I paid for it. I used to come home from work (email tech support at the time) and my wrists would be completely numb. 3 weeks after getting my Kinesis keyboard, I felt no pain. www.kinesis-ergo.com
Did these people invent something or did they just produce another type of pre-existing product - i.e. an Operating System?
What if we tried to melt all the ice (and also create an atmosphere with part of it)? (ignoring the fact that it might take many, many, many years.) How would it affect the overall temperature on Mars?
...The Mozilla crew sneezed today. Come on folks - it's just another build with "RC3" tacked onto the name. Yes, it's good that it's nearing "completion" or whatever that means in software terms.
Just to reiterate - he works for Lexmark Intl.
American programmers are fat & lazy?
American programmers are probably fat, but lazy? Ha! I've worked my fair share of 60-70 hour weeks for $35k/yr.
And we're so lazy, that we can't produce decent software, like Windows, & Office. Oh by the way, what's the rest of the world using as their desktop OS & office suite? Couldn't be an AMERICAN product could it? Here's a big fuck-off for ya.
Oh shit, I'm British, I'd better go somewhere else.
Well, the tech market in europe seems to be alot better, and I'm seriously considering moving to the UK or France. How's that rub you?