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CaptTrips writes "C|Net has an interesting article on the growing wave of LAN parties. Michael Duarte best puts it when he says "being able to play as a team, talk with the people next to you -- it's just a whole different aspect than playing online. For me, it's just more fun to put a face with the name of the person you're playing with." I agree!" This is a good excuse for us to link to QuakeCon. GameSpy has extensive coverage of the con - they've got some interesting screenshots and previews up.

170 comments

  1. No real news, huh? by setzman · · Score: 1

    So this is news? I thought this had been going on for quite some time now...

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    1. Re:No real news, huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      QuakeCon 2002 has been going on for some time now?

    2. Re:No real news, huh? by setzman · · Score: 1

      I wasn't saying that QuakeCon 2002 had been going on for a long time; I was saying that LAN parties had been going on for a long time now.

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    3. Re:No real news, huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We have been doing LAN games since 1997. Nothing new.

    4. Re:No real news, huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, been going on for about, oh, 10 years now. I don't know what took the world so long to notice these things.

      Even if the excuse is that it took QuakeCon to notice LAN parties, then C|Net should have noticed in 1996 when the first one was held. Certainly, by 1997, when the attendance at QuakeCon hit 400, you'd think somebody over there would have figured something was up.

  2. LAN Parties by dreamchaser · · Score: 1, Troll

    LAN parties are fantastic. With a good group of LAN gamers I can share the price of the beer and strippers and not have to spend as much money as I would if I were alone playing online. Not to mention it's more fun howling at the strippers in between games when there are other people around.

    1. Re:LAN Parties by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if you mean other lucky guys' girlfriends as "strippers", then the howling never actally stops.

    2. Re:LAN Parties by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      And then what happens when one of the strippers pulls up a chair, fires up Unreal Tournament on the next PC over, and kicks your ass?

    3. Re:LAN Parties by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      The you pay the extra fee for the private session.

    4. Re:LAN Parties by fatwreckfan · · Score: 1

      You mean Asia Carrera is going to be there? Sweet!

  3. and I thought I was bored on Friday night.... by firippu · · Score: 3, Funny

    LAN parties!? What's next?? Kegger next weekend at the local NIC... yeehaw!

    1. Re:and I thought I was bored on Friday night.... by garcia · · Score: 3, Funny

      I wasn't bored. INstead I got completely fucking drunk and came home at 3:17am EST and saw shit about people saying, "yay, it's a Friday night and I am READING about LAN parties".

      Umm, you are MAKING FUN of people who are posting about LAN parties on a Friday night while you are SITTING AT HOME reading about them.

      At least I am wasted and laughing!

  4. Doom by DrugCheese · · Score: 1, Funny

    We've been hauling our heavy ass computers around since Doom hookin up the ipx network to play.

    Laptops are lovely draggin for Lan Fraggin

    *DrugCheese rants*

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    1. Re:Doom by Caez · · Score: 0

      Laptops are so hard to put the latest and greatest GeForce in tho.

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    2. Re:Doom by Jonny+290 · · Score: 2

      You're not using a big enough hammer.

      Or enough glue.

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  5. LAN parties rock by alptraum · · Score: 2, Interesting

    LAN parties are definately a lot more fun than playing over the internet IMHO, my friends and I would get a bunch of people together and play CS or other FPS and not have to worry about all the cheaters. Plus we could coordinate team assaults a lot more effectively since we could grab a piece of paper and scribble some plans on it and show it to the team mates.

    1. Re:LAN parties rock by Exner · · Score: 1

      Indeed. And if you're in Melbourne, Australia checkout www.shafted.com.au. Double and if you want to be at Australia's upcoming bigest ever LAN read www.bigdayin.com.

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    2. Re:LAN parties rock by Pxtl · · Score: 2

      Actually the growing popularity of net-cafe's is getting the best of both worlds. A place in my neightborhood has P4 1.4's with UT, AvsP 2, StarCraft, WC3, all the HL games, and Q3 on the machines. The place is always well filled, but there's usually 3 or 4 seats for me and my friends - the owner even lets me dl mods for the games too.

      Still, for trying out hardcore wierd shit games with your friends you can't beat a lan party. I remember playing Descent II CTF, Rocket Jockey, Abuse, Hexen, Battlezone (tons and tons of that)and a host of other oddball games at old LAN parties.

    3. Re:LAN parties rock by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 2
      This is true. I've only been to 1 really good lan party, and it was one that I hosted at my place right after final exams one year.

      I think it's fun to choose a variety of games so that in any given game, there are some experts and some non-experts. This changes from game to game to everyone has a chance to dominate or come in last place.

      Back when I had time to play games (damn, has it been that long?) I always won a Jedi Knight and lost badly at Freespace. It kind of makes me sad I never went into university residence and instead lived at home (which happened to be very close to the university) because my buddies there played counterstrike or AvP all day with max 50 ping against the whole resnet, while I am still stuck on lame dialup because there's nothing else better when I am.

    4. Re:LAN parties rock by T-Kir · · Score: 1

      I think the best moment I remember was my mate sat next to me killed this guy 5 times in a row (Unreal Tourney), the guy was so annoyed he got up and to walk round and look at the back of everyones computer (which had our player names stuck on) to find him! Mind, it was only a LAN with 15 people - in a condemned community centre!! at least the roof didn't cave in...

      ...it's moments likes these you can't get on the net, at least not yet.

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  6. (i)max games by macsox · · Score: 3, Interesting

    i hope no one in the south bay area forgot about the max games yesterday at the tech museum in san jose.

    nothing like halo on the imax dome. except, maybe, grand theft auto, which some reason was verboten.

    come to think of it, i'm glad some people from the south bay did forget to go -- it would have been awfully crowded.

  7. LAN party by afrank · · Score: 1

    I refuse to go to another LAN party 'til Duke Forever comes out, or as some might say, 'til Hell freezes over.

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  8. see, who needs laptops by Cyno01 · · Score: 1

    me and my friends are all to impoverished to have laptops, so for UT lan parties they just bring their PCs over:D so many tripped breakers...

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    1. Re:see, who needs laptops by Pxtl · · Score: 2

      Just get a long extension cords and run them from all over the house - make some rules for power consumption too - no speakers, small low-power monitors (you can afford $40 for a used 14"). That works for us.

  9. Also! by FakePlasticDubya · · Score: 1

    It provides for easy slappage when someone TKs you!

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  10. I would LAN more... by Howzer · · Score: 3, Interesting
    If it was easier to move my computer. I mean it's not that hard, just a pain. And moving any screen bigger than a 19 inch monitor just plain bites.

    I've often thought a cool business plan would be to set up a "LAN Party" hall, with monitors and speakers, all the kiddies have to bring are their CPUs, keyboards and meece. $3 per person per hour, if you kept the room booked you could do pretty well.

    Anyone know if this has been done, anywhere? Or does the whole idea suck for reasons not yet known to me?

    1. Re:I would LAN more... by Evanrude · · Score: 3, Offtopic

      Check out the Gear Grip. Maker of fine Case and Monitor toting equipment.

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    2. Re:I would LAN more... by ImaLamer · · Score: 2

      I think it would be much cooler to have this "LAN Hall" filled with out-dated, thrown out, tired, PC's.

      Quake (I) is still the best multi-FPS, and the source code is out there to improve on it... heck, mods would be okay.

      A Pentium I with a 3DFX Voodoo is really all you need.

      Maybe a big screen for the leaders... hidden from the players of course.

      I still love playing CTF, and Team Fortress.

    3. Re:I would LAN more... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Or does the whole idea suck for reasons not yet known to me?

      I usually LAN with people I know, I couldn't picture going somewhere and paying money to use electricity/space so I can LAN face to face with people I don't know anyway. It would be just like net gaming but with less lag. I might go to a function like that just so I can cheat and piss people off though. PS. LCD monitors are much better for LANing

    4. Re:I would LAN more... by Bush_man10 · · Score: 1

      When me and my friends throw a LAN Party we just put it off at our university. We disconnect all the machines in a lab and then plug our own in. DHCP, Fast Connection, 19" monitors and everythign else already configured.

      It's the best way to network but you got to know/be an admin to tear apart a network like that :)

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    5. Re:I would LAN more... by tmark · · Score: 2

      I've often thought a cool business plan would be to set up a "LAN Party" hall, with monitors and speakers, all the kiddies have to bring are their CPUs, keyboards and meece.

      Dude, there are *plenty* of cyber-cafe-style places that cater more to the gaming crowd then the email/web crowd, and they don't require the players to drag CPUs/keyboards/mice, or even software licenses.

    6. Re:I would LAN more... by Howzer · · Score: 2

      Yeah, but generally their machines are sub-standard, it takes you half an hour to set up Half-Life (or whatever) how YOU like it (keyboard, mouse, etc), and their screens are filthy and the lowest quality.

    7. Re:I would LAN more... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Where i live, in Sydney Australia, there are hundreds of gaming rooms around .. especially in the city. Machines there are typically at least 1 ghz, plenty of ram, with comfortable seats and snack facilities available (bottled water/cookies nothing messy).
      The most expensive of these rooms are $6 AU per hour, my friends and i regularily visit korean gaming rooms which are much cheaper about $1.50 an hour. Most popular games are definately starcraft and counterstrike but rainbow 6 series and age of empires 2 are also almost universal

      Sadly most of the starcraft games ive participated in focus more on money maps and less on actual strategy

      Cant see why these wouldnt be available in almost any city around the globe, your local chinatown would definately be a good place to check

    8. Re:I would LAN more... by Raul654 · · Score: 2

      Quake I is the best multiplayer FPS of all time? Wow, that crack you smoked before posting that must have been mighty strong indeed. I really don't understand why people like to push old school FPS games, when in fact, of all the genres, that one gets stale the quickest.

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    9. Re:I would LAN more... by fiftyfly · · Score: 1

      heh - that's what putting comp's in plastic boxes is for ;p : http://192.168.1.102/cam/Cards.jpg

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    10. Re:I would LAN more... by fiftyfly · · Score: 1

      aw jeez - how silly was that, meh. http://fiftyfly.mine.nu/cam/Cards.jpg might work a little better.

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    11. Re:I would LAN more... by ImaLamer · · Score: 2

      Stale? I know 10 years from now I could pick it up and 0wn!

      It really can't get old if there are new maps and players... no campers... etc... just like every other game.

    12. Re:I would LAN more... by Raul654 · · Score: 2

      Yes, but unlike other genres, FPS games are *all* the same, more or less. The object is always the same - collect weapons, kill the opponent. The only exception that comes to mind are capture-the-flag variants (tribes et al), which IMHO, tend to have greater replay value. Anyway, to get back to the point, the biggest difference between one and the next is the graphics engine. And when you consider that, then I don't understand how anybody could push older ones. What can you get in original quake that you can't get in UT? (with or without Tac Ops, depending on your preference)

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    13. Re:I would LAN more... by wanion · · Score: 1

      Anyone know if this has been done, anywhere? Or does the whole idea suck for reasons not yet known to me?

      There is a place in New Zealand, lanplace, that does this. Sort of. It's extra for a monitor - they offer from 17" ViewSonics up to 21" Sony ones.

      Oh, and no speakers, not that I think providing speakers is such a great idea when you have a whole lot of people with speakers in the same room...

      On closer inspection it appears they charge a flat fee for most events (either weeknight or weekend ones over 24 hours) and on weeknights monitor rental is thrown in with seat rental seeing as apparently they believe most people wouldn't want to lug a monitor along to such a short (~8 hour) event.

    14. Re:I would LAN more... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check out http://www.thestompinggrounds.com/
      That's a LAN hall in Minnesota, complete with Alienware 'puters, and loads of caffinated beverages for sale.

    15. Re:I would LAN more... by Bush_man10 · · Score: 1

      That sounds like a great idea to be quite honest. I live in one of the smallest provinces in Canada though and the population around where I live just doesn't warrent the such gaming rooms. We have to hack together our own networks wherever we can find a convienient place to play.

      I'm jealous though. 1.50 an hour is nothing in the grand scheme of things though :)

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    16. Re:I would LAN more... by longbottle · · Score: 1

      Simple soloution: game on a laptop. No, I'm not kidding. My laptop has the biggest screen and best graphics of any of my 11 computers. If I want to game on the go, I just throw my trusty optical mouse into the laptop bag, and go. Hell, I started up a game of Q3A with a friend inside another friend's car once! Talk about portable...

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    17. Re:I would LAN more... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      u ever heard of "cyber arena"? they do that there (it is in the mall) but they also supply cpu's

    18. Re:I would LAN more... by ImaLamer · · Score: 2

      Being that they are all the same (besides gfx) why should we argue?

      What makes me not play any FPS games later than UT is that they are simply too complicated and the gameplay is still yet the same.

      When I say complicated I mean the number of keys bound to items, movements, actions and weapons.

      Simply, I would vote "Doom" but there was no jump. Once that was added to Quake along with GL support and TCP/IP play there isn't much to add except more buttons to mash and even more gfx 'coolness'.

      Now, I'm not saying the rest suck. I'm just saying they are all basically Quake. Better gfx doesn't make a game "better" (unless you are stuck in that console world of "mine looks better than yours")

      I really hope that Doom III will add something really new. A lot of games have added a few things, sword fighting in Jedi Outcast and etc, but nothing radically different.

  11. yes!!! by skydude_20 · · Score: 5, Funny

    exciting! its friday night and I'm reading about LAN parties on Slashdot... it couldn't get any better

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    1. Re:yes!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      wow was I glad to go into IT

      I used to date the HS prom queen, but have not been laid or even seen a female life form outside of passing them in my car for over 2 years. The few social skills I had are almost entirely gone and I wouldn't know what to do if I ever did see an actual girl.

    2. Re:yes!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL. Need to mod this sucker way up!

    3. Re:yes!!! by mobets · · Score: 1

      yes it can, it's friday night and I'm reading about LAN parties on Slashdot from QuakeCon

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  12. Texas LAN Parties by Evanrude · · Score: 2

    For those of you in Texas: (I know it is a big state) There are a few places to check out LAN Parties.
    Check TexasLAN is a group dedicated to bringing LAN Parties to cities across Texas.
    For those up in the Panhandle, check out SystemAddicts LAN A member of the TexasLAN Family.
    LAN parties aren't exactly new but are definitly becoming more "main stream" than they have been in previous years.

    Posted from QuakeCon, the Ultimate Texas LAN Party.

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  13. Lan Party Fun by Dragon218 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The real fun in LAN parties is not the games, the food, or the ability to tell that guy next to you, "HEY! Suck my plasma orb."

    No....

    It's trying your damndest to get that Windows 98 computer to see your frined's 2000 computer and finding that network cable that you thought you left under your bed for emergencies when the guy with XP is complaining that he needs your DSL connection to get drivers for his new video card that is sitting on your drying X-Wing Model while spilling the bean dip in your shag carpet from the 70s. Suddeny, skippy (your dog) pukes up what was the burgers you got 15 minutes earlier for dinner, on your new dual athalon server.

    AAAAGGHHH!

    Lan parties are fun...

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    1. Re:Lan Party Fun by tmark · · Score: 2

      It's trying your damndest to get that Windows 98 computer to see your frined's 2000 computer and finding that network cable that you thought you left under your bed for emergencies when the guy with XP is complaining that he needs your DSL connection to get drivers for his new video

      Yes, this aspect of LAN parties sucks. But of course any discussion about LAN parties on machines running Linux would be pretty boring, given as there are precious few games running on Linux and those that do are outdated for the most part.

    2. Re:Lan Party Fun by Freedom+Bug · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Back in the day, we had to deal with DOS network stacks and 10Base-2. I think I'd take DOS over Windows: I kept a stack of boot disks with appropriate drivers, and that would get most people going. Anything with something wierd either had the drivers along or didn't play. The biggest issue was updating everybody to the same version of Doom.

      But somebody who has never dealt with 10Base-2 (ethernet over coax) is allowed to complain about setting up LAN parties.

      I've still got a stack of about 6 ISA NE2000's along with the cable, T's and terminators. You can borrow it just to experience the pleasure.

      Bryan

    3. Re:Lan Party Fun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I finally retired my last dos-based 10base2 network no more than a couple months ago... God, those were fun. 'What the hell? You moved the box of paper that was holding the cable in place? Now you've gone and done it, knocking out your entire network of twelve computers because the terminater on that computer is so loose that gravity becomes an issue.'

    4. Re:Lan Party Fun by AceCaseOR · · Score: 0

      Well, just because a game is outdated, doesn't mean it stinks. Besides, of the FPSs for Linux that I know about, they're good ones (Quake III, Tribes II). They just need to port Unreal Tournament & Counterstrike to Linux and we'll have the Holy, um, Quadity(?) on Linux, and you'll be able to play those games without needing to run WINE.

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    5. Re:Lan Party Fun by joshki · · Score: 2
      Not quite correct... I run SOFII (using Winex), Quake III (native binaries courtesy of Loki, I think), Unreal Tournament(same), and several others... Go to transgaming.com for a complete list -- it's already quite long and growing all the time.

      Winex is a GREAT project -- it's not perfect yet, but they've really done a good job. And you just can't beat 15 bucks to go windows free!

      I haven't booted into windows in so long I'm probably going to delete my windows partition -- I've just got to make sure UT 2003 is supported under Winex... :)

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    6. Re:Lan Party Fun by ogreinside · · Score: 1

      Yep, I *literally* feel your pain. This is my 4th year here, and every year it smells more and more like a dirty gym in here! This year, they decided to scrunch the tables even CLOSER together. So, it's not enough that the line of 10 people going to eat all bump your case and monitor (along with everyone else's) on their way out, but the other 20 people all leaving on YOUR row, all rub their nastiness all over the back of your head as they scoot by you.

      Don't get me wrong, I LOVE this con. Though most of the time is spent playing games, it's my "cave" time of the year, and I get LOTS and LOTS of me time. A *VERY* good portion of it is, as you mentioned, spent getting file sharing to work. Windows 98 has always sucked at networking, everyone knows that. Some people can't afford XP, and wine doesn't do proper justice in some cases. XP looses compatibility with some games (though not new ones) that we play, so some of us simply have to run 98. It seems to me that MS$ has somehow coded XP to *NOT* play nicely with 98. Is this another "forced upgrade"-ism?

      Most of the time, we boot into Linux to run samba to share. Seems that as long as samba is the file server, it doesn't care what the client is, the share is blazing fast.

      Anyway, my lansearch results are just about done, hrm "*.mp*g;*.avi" returned 60000 results, should have bought that other 100GB drive!!

      Ogre

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    7. Re:Lan Party Fun by zerocool^ · · Score: 2

      Oh, and, hey - Notice to all of you who just discovered lan parties: BRING HEADPHONES.

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    8. Re:Lan Party Fun by RKloti · · Score: 1

      Actually, for most of us, coax networks aren't an option, since there aren't any PCI based coax NICs available. Everything is twisted-pair. I have a 3com Ethernet III combo (3c509B-TPC) card which worked fine, but I had to dump it when I got a system with an all-PCI motherboard. TP requires a hub or a switch, unlike coax, where you could connect two computers end to end. (Perhaps you could do that with a TP crossover cable, but I need to use a hub anyhow)

    9. Re:Lan Party Fun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BRING HEADPHONES

      Screw that. Half the fun of a lan party is having everyone in the house hear the dreaded phrase "Battlecruiser Operational" at 87 decibels. Lan parties to me, are not so much about winning and losing as they are about social politics, revenge, and laying the smack down on the guy who keeps stealing your beers. Playing on the internet is only vaguely more interesting than playing against the computer.

    10. Re:Lan Party Fun by Fjord · · Score: 2

      Yeah, I remember a few years back playing Duke Nukem at the University labs my friend administered. After gathering a bunhc of weapons, I ran out and recieved a rocket up the butt. With out thinking I proclaimed "That's a SPICY meatball" (The Mask was arecently playing film). Everyone just started laughing too hard to play.

      Good times.

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    11. Re:Lan Party Fun by Fjord · · Score: 2

      The only two (nonconsole) games I play anymore (StarCraft and Unreal Tournament) run fine in linux. The latest games don't work, I'll grant you that, but most of them aren't fun for very long, and you just end up going back to the tried and true fun games.

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    12. Re:Lan Party Fun by longbottle · · Score: 1

      This is so true... the last time I had a LAN party, everyone showed up and _didn't have the damn game installed!_ I had to walk three people through installing and updating the game, and by the time that was done, we got to play for all of ten minutes. I'd rather play over the internet anyway.

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  14. Back in my day... by SpankTech3000 · · Score: 1

    we didn't have no fancy LANs or PCs. If we wanted simlated blood-letting, we had to play D&D.

  15. the joy of consoles by kisrael · · Score: 2

    You know, this reminds me of why I'm such a Nintendo fanboy...by sticking 4 ports on the brilliant N64 (not to mention staging the comeback of the non-flightstick analog control stick) they really reinvigorated multiplayer gaming.

    I admit first person shooters aren't quite as good as on a LAN party, with a single processor struggling to make 4 viewpoints, and you able to sneak glances at what you're opponents are up to. And people use to mouse+keyboard balk a bit (having never played a PC FPS since my DOOM days but a bit of quake, I'm still an all-keyboard wuss)

    Still, the convenience factor is important, and the social aspect is great.

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  16. It's all about trust... by Flarelocke · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...trusting that you can kill the cheaters physically if not in the game.

  17. Evil geniuses forever! by pseudochaotic · · Score: 1

    On the other hand, if Einstein had made pinball games, we woundn't have so many nukes. Bad example to pick.

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  18. Rochester lan parties by PhilipChapman · · Score: 1

    Does anyone know of any lan parties in Rochester NY? 3dLan used to be awesome until they stopped doing it.

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    1. Re:Rochester lan parties by Rosonowski · · Score: 2

      Well, My freinds and I host sporadically and poorly planned LAN parties here in Buffalo. However, I have a birthday coming up soon, and If I can garner enough interest, I'm considering holding a party on friday the thirteenth of september (superstitions aside). Drop me an email if you're interested.

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  19. If you're in Fort Collins, CO, by xercist · · Score: 2

    There's a lan in my friend's basement tomorrow (Saturday) through the night into Sunday. Fire an email to me and I'll forward you on to him. Woo!

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    1. Re:If you're in Fort Collins, CO, by tono · · Score: 1

      I'd go, if I didn't work at night, and have a fiance that would shoot me, and a computer fast enough to go. I hate you so very much right now.

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  20. Re:the truth about jon carmack by jarodm · · Score: 1

    I'd say let him do whatever he enjoys doing. Who are you to govern how he uses his abilities? If you believe mayhem in society is caused by "violent video games", how do you account for all the madmen that were on this earth well before video games were even envisioned? I have played the hell out of every "violent" game since Wolfenstein 3D came out, and I must say, I feel fine. I havent went on any murderous rampages lately, nor have I had the desire to. I dont see how people are still getting away with this argument.

  21. My party: by helleman · · Score: 1

    http://www.monitor.ca/monitor/issues/vol6iss5/feat ure5.html

    Anybody know a spot where I can post a mpeg of the newscast coverage of the party? Kind of cool... but its 2.63 meg...

  22. A Quake skin I would want to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone have a quake skin of the goatse guy? I mean that hole can easily launch a rocket.

  23. Iffy title by Swaffs · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    You gotta be careful not to miss the R when reading that title...

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  24. Finally Someone Understands... by NoWhere+Man · · Score: 2

    The real fun in LAN parties is not the games, the food, or the ability to tell that guy next to you, "HEY! Suck my plasma orb.

    Or if you suck: "You frikken Ass-Munch!"

    I can relate to the probs you had. My old laptop used to drop from games during play and thus freeze my player or caused it to self-frag...
    Very interesting fun.

    I am actually heading out to one tonight...hopefully all the games are compatible with everyone's favourite OS, Windows XP...*snicker*

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    "Imagination is the only weapon in the war against reality." -Jules de Gautier
  25. Re:the truth about jon carmack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A brilliant troll, sir, I salute you. I haven't seen a masterpiece like that since "The Moon: Absurd Liberal Myth".

    On the other hand:
    When John Carmack has spoken, the thinking has been done.

    He should replace Marilyn vos Savant as the guy with the highest IQ.

  26. Re:the truth about jon carmack by Tuna_Shooter · · Score: 1

    After having composed a response to this obvious troll i've since erased it and decided to kick back with a cold one and let some other people respond to this bantha fodder. I'm getting to old to get worked up anymore even to respond to such lunacy. !!!!

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  27. Necrowombicon by Rayonic · · Score: 2

    If you're anywhere near the Vancouver, B.C. area, make sure to check out the Necrowombicon, as mentioned on Penny Arcade.

    I won't be, because it's 3000 freaking miles away, but it looks like it could contain fun (in liberal dosages).

  28. I want one of those Shuttle mini pcs for this by TrollsamaBinLaden · · Score: 1

    This would be something easy to pack around and capable of some power gaming. I am just waiting for the amd version with the agp slot before I buy it. The only thing that could make the experience even better for me would be to get a projector hooked up to it and play emulated street fighter alpha 3 on the side of a large building at midnight. I only saw this once but I was as happy as a troll posting goatse links when I saw it.

    1. Re:I want one of those Shuttle mini pcs for this by FireChipmunk · · Score: 1

      my friend has one of them. he just laughs at me when I bring my full size case..etc. to LAN parties. They realy are awsome.

      Just be carefull if you try to mod out the power supply by dropping the fan speed to make it run silent. He had to get a new Power Supply last week cus he screwed it up. Of course he has the Intel / PCI one, and put a GeForce2 64 MB in there with a Tualton Pentium III @ 1200 mhz ... (he can overclock to 1400Mhz no problem too)plently fast for every game out there :-)

  29. Isn't that what the internet was invented for? by Mr.+Grimm · · Score: 1

    So you wouldn't have to drag your monitor up to your buddy's 3rd floor apartment and hoping you don't drop it and watch it roll down the flight of stairs? But of course I may be bitter so don't mind me.

  30. Sad, as a matter of fact. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I never get to play in a LAN party, but I guess it's the only to have a clean game.

    I'm getting so fed up of cheaters (and snipers -- who was the genius who decided to put that in TF?) that I'm seriously considering simply removing quake from my computer.

    Things have reached a point that we should name the game "Go to the Bridge" instead of "Capture the Flag", because that's were you die.
    "This really pisses me off".

  31. Fragfest == Fagfest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Play with your own penis. It feels good and you won't go to hell.

    1. Re:Fragfest == Fagfest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go to hell, no. Go blind? Perhaps. But not go to hell. Definitely not.

    2. Re:Fragfest == Fagfest by 56 · · Score: 1

      How about you get yourself into THIS century and realize that intolerance is over. Grow up or go to texas or something.

    3. Re:Fragfest == Fagfest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Someday all you faggots will be hanging from lamp posts with a sign draped around your neck:
      I Defiled My Race.
      Everytime another one of you fags dies of AIDS, I say "yes, there is a just God."
    4. Re:Fragfest == Fagfest by 56 · · Score: 1

      What makes you think I'm gay? Oh... right, the stupidity. Grow up dude. I like how you're posting as an annonymous coward, you obviousiously know that what you're saying is pathetic.

  32. Re:the truth about jon carmack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "too old" not "to old" a qulity of old not a degree of direction.

  33. Tyler, Tx lan party anyone? by jrwillis · · Score: 1

    It's been a while since I've been to a lan party. Anyone in the Tyler, Tx. area want to get one together?

    --
    Keep Austin Weird!
    1. Re:Tyler, Tx lan party anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you get one set up, give me a call. My number's in the phone book.

      --Joey Seeber

    2. Re:Tyler, Tx lan party anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol Joey I could kick your ass in Q3F anyday ;-)
      -Kevin

  34. Sports by Tom7 · · Score: 5, Insightful


    > being able to play as a team, talk with the people next to you -- it's just a whole
    > different aspect than playing online. For me, it's just more fun to put a face with the
    > name of the person you're playing with.

    And before the advent of the internet, we had sports.

    1. Re:Sports by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      You may have had sports. Few of us future lanparty geeks ever had a prayer of actually playing in a real sporting event however. If we were naive enough to try out for the team that is. Well who's the star of the team now, huh buddy? Who's got the car full of girls now? Well, we're on the team now anyway.

  35. FAGFEST? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you gay homosexual.

  36. poor grammar in c|net article by ChazeFroy · · Score: 2

    Here's an email I sent to the author regarding the use of poor grammar in his article:

    Hi David,

    I noticed many instances of the use of "revolve around" in your story "Gamers fight for right to LAN
    party" at http://news.com.com/2100-1040-950054.html. This is a redundant grammar error (along the lines of "Easter Sunday") and should be corrected to "revolve on." Thank you.

    1. Re:poor grammar in c|net article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Redundant grammar error" is itself redundant - you should use the proper term: tautology.

  37. How do you spell power relief in 3 letters? by MsGeek · · Score: 2

    L.C.D.

    Besides, who wants to lug around a CRT anyway? LCD flat-panels rule.

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    Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power multiplied.
    1. Re:How do you spell power relief in 3 letters? by Rosonowski · · Score: 2

      The only problem being that even a 50 dollar CRT is likely to have a better refresh then the average LCD.

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    2. Re:How do you spell power relief in 3 letters? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rubbish, I say. Unless you are talking pre-TFT LCDs, your statement is foolishness. Most TFTs refresh the entire screen at 72hz, that's been a given for a long time. Some clock a bit faster, up to say 75hz, but the difference is negligable due to the LCD scanning technique. Even the slowest TFTs have pixel refreshes at or below 50ms nowadays, some lower than 25ms. On your average 1280x1024 (75hz, say.) CRT, vertical lines are refreshed at the rate of about 76800 per second. On an equlivent LCD, (1284x1024@72hz) pixels are thoretically refreshed at 94,371,840/s, or 92160 lines/s. This is because individual pixels are addressed, then refreshed, not entire lines of resolution.

      Not to mention that once a video game refreshes it's vid buffers at over 30-45 fps reliably, the human eye is not going to notice it as much (if at all, eh.), and that goes double for LCDs, specifically because of the way they refresh.

      I'm guessing that the difference you notice is from the increaced contrast that many LCDs provide. i.e. the increaced brightness is messing with your retina, the same way looking at the sun causes you to see "sun spots" when you look away.

      That said, when I can get a good LCD for $50, I sure as hell know what I'm using.

    3. Re:How do you spell power relief in 3 letters? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Woohoo, you stud you.

  38. Obligatory Star Trek Ref. by grungebox · · Score: 1
    Wait, I didn't get to go to QuakeCon..

    Con...CON...COOOOOON!!!!

  39. CNet... by Zazi · · Score: 2, Funny

    Leave it to CNet to give you the latest in breaking outdated news. "There is a network of computers called 'the internet' that is now hot among people." Way to go CNet. Way to go. =D

  40. Not always that great in person by yeoua · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Remember... that your actually sitting next to the person you just destroyed 20 to 1...

    Just make sure they are smaller than you.

    1. Re:Not always that great in person by nEoN+nOoDlE · · Score: 2

      Just make sure they are smaller than you.

      this is the geek crowd, no one resorts to violence... we just listen to what our mothers said: "The best revenge is living well." So the guy next to you is probably just gonna wait 20 years until he's making more money than you are.

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      Don't trust a bull's horn, a doberman's tooth, a runaway horse or me.
    2. Re:Not always that great in person by m0nkyman · · Score: 2

      Hey, some of is 6'3" 225lb people are good losers...

      m0nkyman, who sucks eggs at quake but enjoys it nonetheless...

      --
      ~ a low user id is no indication I have a clue what I'm talking about.
  41. Re:the truth about jon carmack by nochops · · Score: 1

    "quality" not "qulity"

    And round and round we go.

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    "A terrorist is someone who has a bomb but doesn't have an air force." -William Blum
  42. Computer Baangs by Praufet · · Score: 1

    Why doesn't anyone start computer baangs like the have in seoul same concept.

  43. Wait a minute... by GiorgioG · · Score: 1

    "...talk with the people next to you..."

    Geeks don't socialize face to face!!!

    1. Re:Wait a minute... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol so true... so true...

  44. nothing more satisfying... by catwh0re · · Score: 1
    there is nothing more satisfying than sneaking up behind someone in a fps game, taking them out then hearing them scream obscenities from 2 rooms down.

    -bless-

  45. School LAN party by mselmeci · · Score: 2, Funny

    I consider myself very lucky: my CS teacher in high school has lan parties, where we use the school's machines and network. Sure, the machines may be outdated, but they can run Tribes 1 very well.

    The administration has been slightly annoyed at us, but didn't ban it, instead made it so that if a student wanted to play, they had to get a sheet signed by teachers each week that says we were getting good grades. This was the same thing that sports had to do. In effect, playing Tribes in the school CS lab after school/during lunch was officially considered a sport.

    I can imagine an interview at college:
    Have you any sports experience?
    1 c4n n41l j00 fr0m a h100dred y4rD5 w1th m4 sn1p3r r1f73!!!

    1. Re:School LAN party by Archon-X · · Score: 1

      Teacher Advocation? hahah.

      We made a sport of playing Q3 during class.

  46. New? by awyeah · · Score: 1

    My friends and I have been having LAN parties since Quake II (LM CTF baby!). I'm glad more people are catching on... the bigger, the better!

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  47. From the Con by Thakandar2 · · Score: 1

    I came two years ago, and this is my second time. I'm more impressed than I was the last time about this whole entire shin-dig. Its huge. This is the first year they had to turn people away from the 1300 person Bring Your Own Computer. With play by play commentary and recordings to watch of the tournaments, sponsor booths (with booth amenities), more people than I can count, and none other than Carmack himself (who posts on these pages) giving a stunning 2 hour speech, its the best one ever.

    For those of you unimpressed, they set this whole LAN up in... oh... day and a half I think of actual set up. Preparation is alot longer. They use several miles of Cat5, and ALL the quake games (and the licensed ones like Jedi Knight, Half Life, etc) are hosted on servers, as well as a few file servers for patches, updates, IRC, misc files, and such. Plus there's internet acess for everyone, and everyone's comp sees the other ones.

    Theres so much on sale, to do for free, and then just look at I'm going to have to budget sleep so I don't miss the developer round tables, technology workshops, blow out party on Sat, and the 100 other things I got to do.

    Plus, the Convention itself is ABSOLUTELY FREE!

  48. On a Continuing Note.... by Befreiung · · Score: 3, Informative

    Hello I'm Michael Duarte, the host of Silicon Valley Frag Fest, in case any one was wondering the URL is www.svfrag.com Thanks! Mike

    1. Re:On a Continuing Note.... by Jeff_Hagen · · Score: 0

      I went to mike's party.... it R0ck3d! All hail the fragfest!

  49. Re:FAGFEST by LobsterMagnet · · Score: 1

    "LAN parties are well known as the leading source of AIDS in this country. It is a well established medical fact that when so many gay homosexuals are placed together in one place" wait, gay homosexuals? isnt that a double negative? and besides, that would make them straight, good insult loser.

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  50. they're broadcasting live matches via GTV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if i'm not mistaken this is a first as you can spec the actual match in realtime via the q3a client ... it works and it's kewl ... get with the picture doods, this is history

    1. Re:they're broadcasting live matches via GTV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know, this is the only real groundbreaking aspect of Quakecon this year and a gaming milestone, so why the original article doesn't mention it and the slashdot crowd ignores it makes me wonder.

      This community often leaves me with feelings of total dispair, oh well, lcd.

  51. What about a LAN party center? by mustangdavis · · Score: 1

    I have been playing games like Quake and Age of Empires during LAN parties since 1996 in the computer labs at the University I attended. Now, I run my own Internet company, but one of the main reasons that I (along with my 4 partners) started this business was so that we could have our own LAN party center, so we could play games with each other ... face-to-face ... whenever we wanted without having to drag our equipment around. Lets face it, carrying a 21" monitor, Klipsh 5.1 surround sound speakers, a leather chair, and my PC would REALLY suck (as mentioned in previous posts). I suppose that you have to have the chance to regularly play on a LAN to really appreciate how nice it is (and what kind of advantage you get when playing against other people online), but we decided that this was DEFINATELY worth it.

    Now comes my question.... what would all of you think about opening a LAN party center for the public to use? I'm talking about providing VERY comfortable chairs, good gaming PCs, concessions, and a place where people could come together (at all hours of the day or night) to play PC games together ... either against each other or over the Internet. Of course, the place would have a T-1 or something close for bandwidth for about 20 to 30 stations (some would have complete PC's with only our game titles installed, some stations would only have a monitor, keyboard, and mouse, others would only have a network cable ... of course, we would offer wireless as well) How much would you pay to do this with your buddies (or just to meet and play games with other people)? $3/hr, $4/hr, $5/hr???? Would membership or group rates help this? Is this a good idea??? A buddy and I have been pondering this for about a year now ... and we've got a business plan in place.

    The problem is that it will take about $60,000 to start this up, so there is a risk involved. We're both Unix systems administrators for major universities as well as full partners in an Internet company that has been around for 3 years now, so we have the technical know how and business background, but we're lacking in the funding. If anyone knows of an investor that would like to fund this opportunity (in Ohio), please email me at adavis@colfirestudios.com. We have a couple ideal locations for such a facility, and I'm sure if we do this "right", we can make this fly. I think that this would really be a great thing for the world of Internet gaming. Best of all, I would love to share some of the fantastic experiences that I have had while playing PC games with my friends ... IN THE SAME ROOM! It makes games SOOOO much better! In fact, I'm surprised Microsoft hasn't already done something like this to try to drive up PC game sales. Sorry for the advertisement here, but I couldn't pass up the opportunity. I have MANY more details for those that may be seriously interested in funding this idea. Also, any comments on this idea would be GREATLY appreciated. This is something that I have been dreaming about doing for MANY years now ... nice to see that others may be thinking like me ...

  52. Mr. Jones, your house is ours! by teamhasnoi · · Score: 2
    That's right Mr. Jones, the house you so recently purchased, with the lovely empty basement, will be ours! The carnage that basement will see will exceed even the real WW2. Bwaaaahahaha..ha... ha.. ahem.

    Defuse ze dynamite!

  53. LAN4EVR! by geekindustries · · Score: 1

    LAN parties rock! You know what else rocks? When your own school is willing to host them! That's right, my high school hosts my lan parties. Infact, we are having one on Sunday as a "before school blowout". Can't shake a stick at "real" computer tables and a 1.5mbit connection to the internet for free can ya? God I am lucky! :)

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  54. with Skill levels through the roof! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All the LAN parties I attended would consist of the shittiest players on the Planet!

  55. Names to faces? by I+Love+this+Company! · · Score: 1
    For me, it's just more fun to put a face with the name of the person you're playing with.quote>

    Are you sure you want to do that? That face is probably the reason they're playing six hours of Quake on a Saturday night. =)

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    "All art is quite useless." -- Oscar Wilde
  56. Pictures by mrpuffypants · · Score: 1

    You want pictures from QuakeCon? I'm there right now and updating my site as it goes on... http://www.shrocks.com/qc2k2

  57. Fragfest by Mulletproof · · Score: 3, Flamebait

    Did somebody have an overnight lobotomy? Does it take a freakin cover from Time magazine for this crap to all of a sudden become "news worthy"!? The topic has been around for years! People haven't "all of a sudden" just started to enjoy LAN parties! It appeared on CNet-- Hey, now there's a good reason to jump all over it... Big f!$#%$ deal! Micheal, you're a chump. A hack. THIS. ISN'T. NEWS. No! It's not a good excuse for you to link to QuakeCon! A story on QuakeCon would have been a good excuse. But what do you post? "being able to play as a team, talk with the people next to you -- it's just a whole different aspect than playing online. For me, it's just more fun to put a face with the name of the person you're playing with." I agree!" Tee-Hee! Did you have to post a person who has only within the last few days discovered what a LAN party is and how to play games online?!

    Not that any of these were worthy, right?

    2002-04-01 18:18:13 Gaming vs. Cinema Double Standards (articles,games) (rejected)
    2002-04-18 15:31:27 Planetary alignment; The End must be near. (articles,science) (rejected)
    2002-04-24 13:18:20 Second Front (articles,internet) (rejected)
    2002-04-28 02:28:59 Subscription alternatives (articles,news) (rejected)
    2002-05-02 18:37:13 Gaming vs. Music (articles,games) (rejected)
    2002-05-15 05:36:39 Napster Approaches Bankruptcy (articles,music) (rejected)
    2002-05-19 16:06:51 Florida Face Recognition Fails (articles,privacy) (rejected)
    2002-05-21 15:46:01 A Tastier Chicken Through Genetic Manipulation (science,humor) (rejected)
    2002-06-03 19:25:40 Bush Administration Global Warming Turnabout (articles,news) (rejected)
    2002-07-11 05:31:21 Mining the Moon for Helium-3 (articles,news) (rejected)
    2002-07-30 20:40:46 Jon, the Al-Qaida and the FBI (articles,internet) (rejected)

    Really, I have a life beyond Slashdot, but this crap SO pushes my buttons. I know I'm not the only one out there with a worthy story, but what gets posted? "Wonderboy discovers LAN parties". Right.

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    1. Re:Fragfest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Post on K5 instead. The maturity is alot better over there.

    2. Re:Fragfest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe the way you wrote the summaries just wasn't very good.

    3. Re:Fragfest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2002-04-18 15:31:27 Planetary alignment; The End must be near. (articles,science) (Obvious) 2002-05-15 05:36:39 Napster Approaches Bankruptcy (articles,music) (Obvious) 2002-05-21 15:46:01 A Tastier Chicken Through Genetic Manipulation (science,humor) (Obvious)

  58. And the winner is... by psypete · · Score: 1

    Everyone! Everyone that goes to a lan party is a winner, because in the end everyone has fun. If you suck at the games and die repeatedly, at least you can talk to people that are just like you. Lan parties are about the only thing that keeps me sane, the only thing that lets me know that other people are actually into this kind of shit. If i had to give a piece of advice to any budding geek, it would be to find a lan party (the less "trendy" the games played/the smaller frequency of them being repeats, the better) and just go and have fun. I bet you $40 that if you and your friends start going, teenage girls will start showing up too. Just make sure and invite them. This applies of course to teenagers in school.

    Mandatory plugs:
    http://www.slagg.org/ - LAN Party in Sarasota, Florida. People from all over the area, from north tampa to south of sarasota somewhere, come to play at this great 60+ LAN. The atmosphere is awesome, the people are great, the games are plentiful, and the administrator is a cool old-school geek with a long ass beard!
    http://www.flux.org/ - Florida Linux Users Xchange. Having a lan party on September 21st in south florida. If they get enough people, we could organize really big ones! Oh, and here's the catch: LINUX IS ACTUALLY RECCOMENDED!
    http://fl2600.cjb.net/ - Doing a sort of joint lan party with FLUX, this 2600 meeting at the Broward Mall in Broward County, Florida supports gaming as a very productive means of hacking. Imean, having fun. But what's the difference, really? :D btw, they also recognize that 2600 magazine's recent issues blow chunks.

    1. Re:And the winner is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some of you geniuses out there need to invent a girls LAN party. We're a pretty rare commodity, and I, at least, feel a bit queasy about going to a party where I will be surrounded by all guys.

  59. A little self promotion.. by questforme · · Score: 1

    I will probably leave my current job at the end of the year and join this outfit: www.xgamerz.net It's a gamer pro-league/gaming computer builder. First event is in Houston in November.

  60. OTTAWA QUAKEFEST? by evilpeoplenetwork · · Score: 1

    HELLEMAN???????

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  61. How to find frag parties by wackybrit · · Score: 2

    Sorry to sound like a total lamer, but none of my friends are interested in stuff like LAN parties. So how do you find LAN parties? Is there a site that lists parties by location?

    I'm in the UK, by the way.

    1. Re:How to find frag parties by wackybrit · · Score: 1

      Doh, I thought LANParty.com was US only. My bad. Please ignore :-D Still.. doesn't seem to be many over here!

    2. Re:How to find frag parties by shogun · · Score: 2

      Well as your in the UK it might not be all that useful for you. But down here in Australia all LAN Parties worth going to are listed on the AusGamers registration system calendar. And watch out for this 1000 player lan (Big Day In) in Melbourne early next year.

  62. DaveLAN 2k2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We r0x0r your b0x0r. w00t. Party going on right now!

    I'm going to die of lack of sleep.

  63. Hmmm. by Dark+Lord+Seth · · Score: 1

    I loved this demo of the Q3 engine called "Quake 3 Arena" for about five minutes, but when are those people going to release a real game with that engine? Oh wait, that WAS a real game?

    RTCW anyone?

  64. love LAN parties - but we get LAG by cyberbob2010 · · Score: 0

    I live in North Eastern Ohio and there isn't a whole hell of a lot to do up here. So we have LAN parties. I have my 5 port Linksys router and a coupla extra network cards. YA, we're only on a 10/100 but its not that bad. Only time it sucks is when you get to many people and we have to use my friends hub (this ancient 8 port 25 pound P.O.S.) and we have to use a crossover cable to link the two. The lag gets TERRIBLE!!!!
    Five computers on my end linked to eight on the other and all that info getting shoved through. There are WAY to many collisions. Does anybody know af a hardware hack we could do to get it to let us hook up two cords between the two hubs?

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    1. Re:love LAN parties - but we get LAG by Arjuna01 · · Score: 1

      The problem isn't the bandwidth...its a hub. Probably 10mbit and always half-duplex. Go get an D-Link or Linksys 8-port switch for less than $100. You'll get 100mbit full-duplex (really 200mit) Hub technology just doesn't support a speedy backplace because it works on another OSI model layer (layer 1? just an electrical repeater) whereas a switch works at Layer 2 (or Layer 3 but really expensive) where the packets get analyed by the ASIC's of the switch and it'll only forward traffic based on the mac address...a hub send it to everyone! When you get into the better switch (Cisco 1900, 2900XL, and now the 2950's...these are manageable switches) you add the capability of a feature called EtherChannel, which allows you to bind upto 8-ports on the switch for say crossing over to another switch for big bandwidth hogs or to a server. IMHO, you just need to scrap the hub and get a cheap unmanageable switch. Thats what my friends and I did and it made all the difference.

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    2. Re:love LAN parties - but we get LAG by cyberbob2010 · · Score: 0
      thank you for the info.

      i never would have figured that out. If i get any more network questions would it be alright to send them to you? My friend is going to our JVS for the Networking Technology Course and he still doesn't know that much. Other than my friends and I there really aren't many computer geeks in northen Ohio. Especially not the rural hickville we live in so I depend a lot on the help i get online. Thanx again- Cyberbob

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  65. The future: Neverwinter Nights by MtViewGuy · · Score: 2

    While the big emphasis is on first-person shooters now, I wonder what will LAN parties be like in the future with the rapid growth in the popularity of the game Neverwinter Nights, which in many ways is essentially an online Dungeons & Dragons game that handles one Dungeon Master and 60+ player characters. I believe that NWN is easily configured to play over a LAN, with one machine designated for DM use.

    I personally think a NWN gaming session will probably take longer than FPS game sessions, mostly because you have to do a lot more than just attack another character.

  66. Hardly new, indeed... by TopShelf · · Score: 2
    I recall going to GenCon back in the mid- to late-80's and playing a great game called MidiMaze on a daisy chain of Atari computers. Each player was a happy face that rolled around through a maze and it was your basic fragfest, with up to 20 people at a time gathered around the ring.


    The only difference now is the splatter factor!

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  67. Its all about communication bandwidth by Aliks · · Score: 2

    We are all of us pack animals really, and will use all channels we can to communicate with our fellows.

    What these people are doing is using voice and vision to interact with each other while playing over a healthy amount of ethernet bandwidth. The real world chat plus the data chat makes for a really fat communication pipe and most people love it.

    But you get the same effect even without being on the same LAN.

    You can see this on the Internet games people play. On Everquest a couple of years ago, for big raids the group leaders would all be talking on the phone and on ICQ as well as playing in teams online.

    You can also run a realtime voice server with Battlecom see (http://www.battlecom.org/ ) from Shadowfactor and this adds a whole new dimension to online play:

    "Incoming over the hill on the right! Heal me, Heal me. Evac NOW! Damn I'm dead. Why are all our clerics ****ing retards?"

    Try typing that with a pack on gnolls on your tail.

    I think voice and video links over ADSL will be the next really big advance in online gaming.

  68. Totally US oriented view.... by The+J+Kid · · Score: 1
    This article has a totally US oriented view....
    Not surprising, I know, but let me fill you in on the Europian (or at least Dutch) situation:

    In Holland we have LAN parties about every weekend! (Check http://www.lan-party.be/calendar.php if you don't believe me..)

    And we've been having these large number of parties for a couple of years now.... Funny seeing the USA catching up on technology related matters... :P

    ...and Bawls is the official soft drink of professional gaming group the Cyberathlete Professional League.

    And in Europe we have Redbull (www.redbull.com) which is also a high-caffianated drink and is the main drink for LAN-Parties here...

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    1. Re:Totally US oriented view.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      US isn't "catching up," CNET is. These have been going on for years. And "Bawls"? I've never heard of it, but I've had Red Bull numerous times.

  69. ApacheCon I coulda hada LAN party by garyebickford · · Score: 1

    When the Apache Foundation was working on the first ApacheCon, I proposed on the newsgroup or mail list (I forget which) that the Con be intercontinental, with gatherings on each continent and multiple video-over-internet presences between the gatherings on each continent. These would have provided telepresence of speakers, and also personal interpresence allowing individuals to 'meet' with each other, constituting what would have been the first BIG "LAN party".

    I think at the time this was too ambitious for anyone else to pick up especially for a first convention, and I was both too lazy and too poorly connected myself to make it happen, which is the open source way is it not?

    It would still be a great example of how the 'bazaar' accomplishes things in a global way, and would allow the many open source developers who can't afford international travel so easily, to get together.

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  70. Big Deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My group has been doing this for years. http://www.wpngg.org, We've been having LAN parties since the days of Doom II.

  71. Yay, way to go guys... by http101 · · Score: 0

    This is the first article I've seen about QuakeCon 2002 and I'm sadly disappointed. I thought SlashDot was on the cutting edge of major events...

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  72. Meetup.com by gabec · · Score: 2

    After we met through the slashdot.meetup.com thing last month a bunch of the Nashville /.'ers got together last week for a lan party ;) pretty cool! :)

  73. Possibly. by Mulletproof · · Score: 1

    Not saying that I'm blind to the fact. I would hope that maybe just one of them would post. Of course, calling the eds out on their oh-so-poor stories probably doesn't help.

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  74. Yesindeed by Mulletproof · · Score: 1

    Fragfest : Obvious

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  75. Why WE do it by RobertNotBob · · Score: 1
    I don't know about everybody else, but at MY house there is really only one reason everyone luggs their machine half way across the city. Everyone knows that you can play games over the internet, but if you frag somebody remotely, you don't get to $hit talk the victom.

    The finger pointing also doesn't get translated very well.

    We have one friend, Jamie (last name omitted since he reads /.) who bangs his keyboard and curses when he gets fragged. After 7 years of getting together every month or so, he still hasn't figured that it makes him much more enjoyable to hunt. ;)

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  76. Re:the truth about jon carmack by Tuna_Shooter · · Score: 1

    actually it is a degree of direction ... after all i AM headed that way whether i like it or not...

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