Who cares if they're a terrorist organization? The idea of being arrested for being a DMOZ editor where such an organization is in the category is ridiculous. I'd be very upset, similarly, if someone from the U.S. or U.K. was arrested for editing a category re Osama. Or if you prefer, imagine a Palestinian being arrested for editing a category on {Hezbollah, Israel, you pick it}...
The point is not whether or not the organization is terrorist (whatever that means anymore).
Traffic lights, for example, are owned by a city. The city keeps accurate budget information about how its money is spent. Incandescent traffice lights are typically changed on a yearly basis and require a substantial workforce with trucks and ladders to reach the bulbs. One can usually make a convincing case to a city that using LED traffice lights will save $x per year, and so the city opts to use LED lights.
That's an excellent point...GE had a program..may still have...that would finance the cost of changing out a city's traffic lights to LEDs based on the savings in electric bills. Very cool.
boy, this took a while to surface, given that LEDs have been so popular in automobiles, traffic lights, and railroad signals for the past few years...will have to give one a shot.
Some of the comments here are along the same lines I was thinking...does one have to clear this sort of thing with homeland security or the coast guard? I didn't see anything to that effect on the main Spray site. would be an interesting thing, though...looking at the shape and size of the thing, and considering that it makes a regular phone call via sattelite. Wow. that might be mistaken for something different altogether...
It's nice to see government agencies not waste our (sorry: your) tax dollars and instead produce something useful and not hiding it in one of their many shelfs.
I agree that useful government work in this area is great, and i don't mean to assail this poster....but getting things even further out there (i.e., not on a somewhat-obscure sehlf, but somewhere where my clueless, windows-using family would find it.). Wonder if there's a better way that NSA could promote this stuff so that everyday (non-power-) users would find it?
After hearing this story on the radio this morning, I was thinking that this system would work well if it had a web-of-trust component, similar to that for Thawte or other digital signature authorities. To me, it's a given that this thing is going to be hacked, and exposing it to as much daylight and as many human users as possible is what would make sure the system was trustworthy....
Hey, if you're a student, Panther is $69. It's really not that bad, and it's a helluva lot more reasonable than (even an upgrade to) new windows versions. Even more so when you consider that you actually get some new and useful features.
Also, the source code of the book isn't available (it appears to have been done in LaTeX), which I think makes it legally impossible under the GPL to redistribute the book
THis is totally a side issue, but the source thing really interests me. i don't know a lot about what format actual source code comes in, but a lot of the software I download has its souce basically in a textfile...so here's my question: is having to format the book (for presentation, headings, etc.) any different than having to put source code through a compiler, and possibly having to port? Is the source in this case really unavailable,, since the text of the document is right there to be had? Just curious...;)
IDNRADC (I do not run a data center), but don't let that stop me from making a completely unqualified comment;)....
Perhaps just as important, or more important, are you storing customer data that could/should be regularly deleted? Not that burning everything when the FBI shows up is the best option, but having a sensible scheme for what needs to be stored, and what would be better deleted and overwritten, seems to me to be important...
Wow, taken to the extreme, the exploitation of their systems could have caused a train collision and injury or death to hundreds of Maryland and Virginia commuters."
railroad signaling systems being what they are, I'm certain that this could not have caused a collision. Railroad signal systems run on proprietary, failsafe software. Getting trains to bump into each other, in most systems, takes a computer glitch in code, or a specific series of commands to the signal system, plus a human overriding signal indications in the field. in every signal system i've ever seen (quite a few across the country), the only thing that MS software/OS relates to is supervisory remote control and monitoring. The local signal logic (software or relay based) will not allow for unsafe train movements, even if accidentally commanded to do so, unless very specific conditions are met. Again, an Engineer passing a stop signal, for example, is usually one of the requirements.
Yep. One set comes down, another one is aloft, and another is in the process of being launched.
TEACH THE CONTROVERSY!
it's not global warming. everyone is just wearing thicker clothes.
OFFTOPIC?! This is brilliant...we'll all need little foil baggies. Mods, please...
as long as they're not using any of that tissue to cure disease...that's all i care. :P
Who cares if they're a terrorist organization? The idea of being arrested for being a DMOZ editor where such an organization is in the category is ridiculous. I'd be very upset, similarly, if someone from the U.S. or U.K. was arrested for editing a category re Osama. Or if you prefer, imagine a Palestinian being arrested for editing a category on {Hezbollah, Israel, you pick it}...
The point is not whether or not the organization is terrorist (whatever that means anymore).
Traffic lights, for example, are owned by a city. The city keeps accurate budget information about how its money is spent. Incandescent traffice lights are typically changed on a yearly basis and require a substantial workforce with trucks and ladders to reach the bulbs. One can usually make a convincing case to a city that using LED traffice lights will save $x per year, and so the city opts to use LED lights.
That's an excellent point...GE had a program..may still have...that would finance the cost of changing out a city's traffic lights to LEDs based on the savings in electric bills. Very cool.
boy, this took a while to surface, given that LEDs have been so popular in automobiles, traffic lights, and railroad signals for the past few years...will have to give one a shot.
Some of the comments here are along the same lines I was thinking...does one have to clear this sort of thing with homeland security or the coast guard? I didn't see anything to that effect on the main Spray site.
would be an interesting thing, though...looking at the shape and size of the thing, and considering that it makes a regular phone call via sattelite. Wow. that might be mistaken for something different altogether...
It's nice to see government agencies not waste our (sorry: your) tax dollars and instead produce something useful and not hiding it in one of their many shelfs.
I agree that useful government work in this area is great, and i don't mean to assail this poster....but getting things even further out there (i.e., not on a somewhat-obscure sehlf, but somewhere where my clueless, windows-using family would find it.). Wonder if there's a better way that NSA could promote this stuff so that everyday (non-power-) users would find it?
...or even more likely than hacked...when the tokens get lost or stolen...
After hearing this story on the radio this morning, I was thinking that this system would work well if it had a web-of-trust component, similar to that for Thawte or other digital signature authorities. To me, it's a given that this thing is going to be hacked, and exposing it to as much daylight and as many human users as possible is what would make sure the system was trustworthy....
At the risk of trolling :P
Am I the only one who read the 'Innocence in Theaters' part of the headline...and had a whole different idea about this story?
what, no :P more humor! please!
2011...if that soon!or
sounds optimistic...
or anything like that?
um...
:P
meaning you can now deduct donations made directly to Mozilla.org from your income tax returns
what if I've been deducting donations for a year or so now?
No one is going to read this, since this story is days old....but just in case:
dig the thing on dashboard! All the stocks in the ticker are up, except MSFT! I love it! Pixar, Amazon, Apple....everyone up except Microsoft! LOL!
peace.
i get it now...i think it actually searches the whole web while you wait!
whoa! don't everyone pile on at once! the poor thing just can't keep up.
:P
...bah. go ahead. pile on.
the turbo trains of the late 1960s were jet-powered, and also annoyingly loud. Were canned for that same reason.
Also, the source code of the book isn't available (it appears to have been done in LaTeX), which I think makes it legally impossible under the GPL to redistribute the book
;)
THis is totally a side issue, but the source thing really interests me. i don't know a lot about what format actual source code comes in, but a lot of the software I download has its souce basically in a textfile...so here's my question: is having to format the book (for presentation, headings, etc.) any different than having to put source code through a compiler, and possibly having to port? Is the source in this case really unavailable,, since the text of the document is right there to be had?
Just curious...
IDNRADC (I do not run a data center), but don't let that stop me from making a completely unqualified comment ;) ....
Perhaps just as important, or more important, are you storing customer data that could/should be regularly deleted? Not that burning everything when the FBI shows up is the best option, but having a sensible scheme for what needs to be stored, and what would be better deleted and overwritten, seems to me to be important...
remade by chinese sweatshop labor? :P i'll be looking forward to hearing "Clocks" in the same voice used on the little Chicken Dance Hamster!
:D
Okay, I'm done with my socio-political rant.
If you're interested, parallel article from business 2.0, from a month or so ago.
Wow, taken to the extreme, the exploitation of their systems could have caused a train collision and injury or death to hundreds of Maryland and Virginia commuters."
railroad signaling systems being what they are, I'm certain that this could not have caused a collision. Railroad signal systems run on proprietary, failsafe software. Getting trains to bump into each other, in most systems, takes a computer glitch in code, or a specific series of commands to the signal system, plus a human overriding signal indications in the field.
in every signal system i've ever seen (quite a few across the country), the only thing that MS software/OS relates to is supervisory remote control and monitoring. The local signal logic (software or relay based) will not allow for unsafe train movements, even if accidentally commanded to do so, unless very specific conditions are met. Again, an Engineer passing a stop signal, for example, is usually one of the requirements.
spot on! every time i see one of those pictures of helicopters everywhere, monorails throughout the cities, flying cars, etc., i just have to chuckle.
we're no more going to put ourselves out of work wholesale by 2050 than we ran out of food to feed the world last century (or will in the next).