16 billion is about $18 per user. that's ridiculous.
That isn't necessarily $18 per user, as some users have multiple accounts. I would like to see the value per IP address, that would be very interesting. The whole thing is more complex then it seems, I mean maybe the real story is do advertisers see individual accounts as unique eyes viewing their ads? Or do they care? Do advertisers want to know how many accounts per IP address there are, does facebook offer that metric? Is high touch the name of the game in facebook advertising, or is it unique views?
Ozzy is 60 something, Steven Tyler is 63, Mick Jagger is 68 and still going strong. I'd say U2 has at least another 20 years of good touring and music making. What the hell do people know?
I just installed it tonight on and old Netgear WG602 v3 I wanted to make a client instead of using my USB WiFi stick. The GUI is nice with tons of features.
If we ask Ray what he means by "brain" we may understand better, the part of the brain that is practical to reverse engineer first is logic, or the neocortex. Assuming that Ray means the whole brain is where I think neuro-scientists are correct in their conclusion as of now 10 years is very optimistic. On the other hand if we only consider the logic center and don't deal with vision centers, speech and hearing centers, motor functions and autonomic systems, then we can probably do it. The key problem is input, the brain is nothing without data input and interaction, and experience.
There is more to the human brain then logic, but at this point raw compute power which is approximately 20 Quads per second and developing subroutines to simulate neuron function is what I think Ray is speaking of, simulating sensory stimulus response may be part of that program. The co-processing centers that pre-process the input to signals the brain as whole understands is another problem, and I don't think this is what Ray is predicting, but I think we need to ask him what he means before we jump all over his statement like we know what he's talking about. The brain is an electrochemical streaming massively parallel biological processor, which seems to be very well suited to pattern recognition and linear logic calculations. The brain not well suited to exponential logic, so neuro-scientists are correct from their frame of reference but wrong in the actual application of their logic because it's linear.
Raw compute power and the interactive subroutines which are repeated over and over in the wet wired world of the brain, simulating the plasticity and electronic logic is probable but the chemical side of things is a whole other issue, this would involve understanding hormonal function and interaction at a level not available today. It would require the understanding of calcium, potassium, sodium and other ion channels and other mineral interaction and function in the brain, and it would require the mapping of the two-way interaction between antagonists and receptors, re-uptake of hormones and their effects on signal processing.
Is what Ray Kurzweil says clear? On the surface yes, but the meaning of what he is saying needs to be explained and not so quickly dismissed.
Westwood Studios died some years ago but I loved their Blade Runner game, it was way ahead of it's time. I'd like to see the graphics updated to realtime 3D.
Same with Star Trek the Next Generation: A Final Unity. Great game and story, horrible video cut scenes, really clunky UI.
I bet these two games would come out great using Valve's Source engine.
Poor Eleanor Clift I bet she was sure she was winning a Pulitzer prize for that news story! Big deal, everyone knows where Fort Knox is, it doesn't make it any less secure. Anybody knows where all the oil refineries are, taking a refinery out is more of a threat then offing a political leader. (just look at Iraq)
Who do people think these politicians are that we couldn't survive without them? Bah!
I would have loved to have a boss who was willing to spend $300 on something as simple as a very long network cable. That might mean he actually approves of spending real money for real equipment rather then beating up the tech department to spec out the cheapest equipment that will get the job done. He might actually be reasonable when it comes to proposals for new equipment and not always ask you why it's needed, because he knows the faster the equipment the more work that can be done.
I'd love to have a boss like that, he probably likes to pick up the tab at the bar too.
Another thing, I got some serious wind burn from all the propeller heads spinning their propellers at top speed.
It would be one thing if the G'n'R tracks from Chinese Democracy were awesome, and the best they've ever put out.
That's far from the case, it's the worst G'n'R I've ever heard.
I find it ironic that the Feds who really have bigger fish to fry want to make such a lame example of this poor kid. I think instead they should arrest Axel and put him in prison for 6 months for even wasting our time.
Shouldn't the Feds be out there doing something useful like finding Elvis, Jim Morrison, even a Sasquatch or space alien?
Wow, is jg21 taking a jab at Dare Obasanjo by calling him Dare Osabanjo? Maybe it was just a typo, but I digress. Dare seems to present his thoughts in a well written manner and doesn't seem to be ranting, so I dismiss jg21's one liner to describe Dare's article as a cheap shot. I'm no fan of Microsoft but if Google can learn from Microsoft's developers (hint, hint, free secrets about Microsoft's strategy) to make Google's API better then why not. However Don Dodge's comments are exactly the kind of "Na-na-na, naa-naa-naaaa", "in your face" kind of bullet-point ranting I'd expect from a Microsoft developer.
In any case this topic is sure to get more press here then it's worth, even my time spent commenting on it seems to be a total waste now that I think about it.
Basic4 computers sold a harddisk pack that had a 40 meg capacity. When you ordered more storage a technician visited the site, opened the Basic4 and flipped a bit, this expanded the capacity of the pack to 70 meg.
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didn't undervalue themselves
16 billion is about $18 per user. that's ridiculous.
That isn't necessarily $18 per user, as some users have multiple accounts. I would like to see the value per IP address, that would be very interesting. The whole thing is more complex then it seems, I mean maybe the real story is do advertisers see individual accounts as unique eyes viewing their ads? Or do they care? Do advertisers want to know how many accounts per IP address there are, does facebook offer that metric? Is high touch the name of the game in facebook advertising, or is it unique views?
Apparently 42 was NOT The Answer... For facebook anyway.
Ozzy is 60 something, Steven Tyler is 63, Mick Jagger is 68 and still going strong. I'd say U2 has at least another 20 years of good touring and music making. What the hell do people know?
I was going to say this. ;)
I just installed it tonight on and old Netgear WG602 v3 I wanted to make a client instead of using my USB WiFi stick. The GUI is nice with tons of features.
What do those stupid Marines want, an iPad big enough to water board people on?
It's not all about the bling yo!
The dept. this article was placed in. It should be in The-Grass-Is-Always-Greener dept.
exactly what cults do to control information.
Why are these things even connected to the internet if there is the danger of cracking them?
If we ask Ray what he means by "brain" we may understand better, the part of the brain that is practical to reverse engineer first is logic, or the neocortex. Assuming that Ray means the whole brain is where I think neuro-scientists are correct in their conclusion as of now 10 years is very optimistic. On the other hand if we only consider the logic center and don't deal with vision centers, speech and hearing centers, motor functions and autonomic systems, then we can probably do it. The key problem is input, the brain is nothing without data input and interaction, and experience.
There is more to the human brain then logic, but at this point raw compute power which is approximately 20 Quads per second and developing subroutines to simulate neuron function is what I think Ray is speaking of, simulating sensory stimulus response may be part of that program. The co-processing centers that pre-process the input to signals the brain as whole understands is another problem, and I don't think this is what Ray is predicting, but I think we need to ask him what he means before we jump all over his statement like we know what he's talking about. The brain is an electrochemical streaming massively parallel biological processor, which seems to be very well suited to pattern recognition and linear logic calculations. The brain not well suited to exponential logic, so neuro-scientists are correct from their frame of reference but wrong in the actual application of their logic because it's linear.
Raw compute power and the interactive subroutines which are repeated over and over in the wet wired world of the brain, simulating the plasticity and electronic logic is probable but the chemical side of things is a whole other issue, this would involve understanding hormonal function and interaction at a level not available today. It would require the understanding of calcium, potassium, sodium and other ion channels and other mineral interaction and function in the brain, and it would require the mapping of the two-way interaction between antagonists and receptors, re-uptake of hormones and their effects on signal processing.
Is what Ray Kurzweil says clear? On the surface yes, but the meaning of what he is saying needs to be explained and not so quickly dismissed.
A coat of clear matte finish spray paint?
Westwood Studios died some years ago but I loved their Blade Runner game, it was way ahead of it's time. I'd like to see the graphics updated to realtime 3D.
Same with Star Trek the Next Generation: A Final Unity. Great game and story, horrible video cut scenes, really clunky UI.
I bet these two games would come out great using Valve's Source engine.
Poor Eleanor Clift I bet she was sure she was winning a Pulitzer prize for that news story! Big deal, everyone knows where Fort Knox is, it doesn't make it any less secure. Anybody knows where all the oil refineries are, taking a refinery out is more of a threat then offing a political leader. (just look at Iraq)
Who do people think these politicians are that we couldn't survive without them? Bah!
I would have loved to have a boss who was willing to spend $300 on something as simple as a very long network cable. That might mean he actually approves of spending real money for real equipment rather then beating up the tech department to spec out the cheapest equipment that will get the job done. He might actually be reasonable when it comes to proposals for new equipment and not always ask you why it's needed, because he knows the faster the equipment the more work that can be done.
I'd love to have a boss like that, he probably likes to pick up the tab at the bar too.
Another thing, I got some serious wind burn from all the propeller heads spinning their propellers at top speed.
It would be one thing if the G'n'R tracks from Chinese Democracy were awesome, and the best they've ever put out.
That's far from the case, it's the worst G'n'R I've ever heard.
I find it ironic that the Feds who really have bigger fish to fry want to make such a lame example of this poor kid. I think instead they should arrest Axel and put him in prison for 6 months for even wasting our time.
Shouldn't the Feds be out there doing something useful like finding Elvis, Jim Morrison, even a Sasquatch or space alien?
Wow, is jg21 taking a jab at Dare Obasanjo by calling him Dare Osabanjo? Maybe it was just a typo, but I digress.
Dare seems to present his thoughts in a well written manner and doesn't seem to be ranting, so I dismiss jg21's one liner to describe Dare's article as a cheap shot. I'm no fan of Microsoft but if Google can learn from Microsoft's developers (hint, hint, free secrets about Microsoft's strategy) to make Google's API better then why not. However Don Dodge's comments are exactly the kind of "Na-na-na, naa-naa-naaaa", "in your face" kind of bullet-point ranting I'd expect from a Microsoft developer.
In any case this topic is sure to get more press here then it's worth, even my time spent commenting on it seems to be a total waste now that I think about it.
Seth
If my new car with Windows Automotive get's a virus, is it covered under the lemon law?
I'm sure someone will write one to do fun things like make the GPS only give you directions to the closest Pizza place.
Seth
I think they are rounding the number (1000 Megabytes) for marketing reasons, but in reality they are using the "magic number" for technical reasons.
Binary, it all goes back to binary if you like to byte, or Hex if you like to nybble.
Just a few bits to chawmp on,
Seth
Basic4 computers sold a harddisk pack that had a 40 meg capacity. When you ordered more storage a technician visited the site, opened the Basic4 and flipped a bit, this expanded the capacity of the pack to 70 meg.
Seth