(1) Look at pr0n (2) Check to see if their hand-knitted scarves and hats are selling well on eBay (3) Use online personals to find their next 'victim'. (4) Play Quake (5) Take their drivers license renewal tests online (6) Download trucking songs from Kazaa (7) Complain to congress via email about the state of the roads (8) Net2Phone with their mom;-)
I think SCO are playing a dangerous game. IBM are a formidible opponent, even if they've had the wind knocked out their sales in recent years.
Plus, it would probably be a smart thing(tm) for SCO to publicly state what IBMs so-called infrigement is now that they're proceeding with directed action.
Don't get me wroing, I don't love AIX by any stretch of the imagination;-) But this is starting to seem like the technology equivalent of Days of our Lives or something!
So, you're claiming that the 32- and 64-bit versions of Solaris, AIX and FreeBSD are entirely *different* operating systems? Because you're currently claiming that a 64-bit version of MacOS X is a seperate operating system.
Adding a kernel profile for a PPC970 is *not* creating a new operating system. Adding 64-bit support in the OS is *not* creating a new operating system.
And your claims that the underlying hardware is "different" are as valid as saying that a 486 and a Pentium are "different hardware". Granted, they're different chips, but they share fundamentally the same roots. Just like the current G4 and the PPC970. Remember that the PPC970 is 100% binary compatible from an instruction point of view and will run *any* G4 code without modification.
They wouldn't be supporting two operating system, it's the same operating system!
64-bit PPC architecture can run 32-bit PPC code just fine as-is. Which is part of the reason that there are claims of stock MacOS X 10.2.6 being run on these PPC970 machines.
I guess another application is that this keyboard allows you to easily type while the other hand is occupied;-)
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I did have an unfortunate accident when trying to board the bus the other day and didn't spool fast enough, so was yanked out of my seat as it pulled away;-)
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I carry around my own spool of fiber wherever I go which is plugged into a SONET backbone at my apartment...yes I get some stares as I unspool the orange cable while walking down the street, but at least I got 10Gbit/sec of bandwidth at Starbucks rather than having to use their paltry WiFi!;-)
...just involves randomly click on stories to approve and not much else...you don't even have to check for duplicates. And, boy, does it get you some classy women too!;-)
"After that 'all' that they'd need to do would be is recompile the OS (easy)".
Actually, they'd have to write code, too...not just recompile. There's all sorts of CPU support stuff in the OS. It would be a reasonable sized job for the whole OS....the Darwin portions, however, wouldn't be incredibly tough.
Not necessarily. You may have noticed (or not) that when Sun went 64-bit, you could still run Solaris 32-bit binaries. They just weren't the *best* option.
Don't assume that being 64-bit makes things incompatible...instruction set is still the same.
And look at the 68K tricks Apple did when they introduced PPC, too.
Apple only has ~US$4bn in the bank, but you didn't mishear: Steve was actually saying that *he* has $41bn in his personal Swiss bank account...mostly from selling his folk music on iTunes (oh, and selling NeXT to Apple, and Apple stock options, and being the CEO of Apple *AND* Pixar....)
Okay, if this was a farm of FreeBSD machines (a la Yahoo!), then nobody at all would be surprised...even if the machines weren't multi-CPU Xeons.
If they were other UNIX vendors' machines that had RISC CPUs at a "paltry" ~1Ghz...again, nobody would be surprised because "they're UNIX machines and more reliable and they're 'optmized' and they 'don't run a GUI'".
But because their Macs people seem surprised. That's a Mach kernel with some of the best elements of 4.4BSD and FreeBSD/NetBSD grafted on there for God's sake. Yes, it does have a very slick GUI available, but we're also talking about the SERVER VERSION of OS X.
Someone also mumbled about lack of RAID -- what's XServer RAID, then? Yes, it runs ATA drives...but look at the interesting architecture, you've got each drive on a SEPARATE controller. That, IMHO, negates a lot of issues that ATA has in one single swoop.
Anyhoo, kudos to Apple...iTunes music store seems pretty slick on many levels. And it's good to see them eating their own dog food:-)
I have a Motorola Timeport P280...mainly because it was an early GPRS "world" phone and had features good for a business traveller (IrDA, USB for GPRS, tri-mode GSM, etc).
I'm VERY surprised that the P280 isn't listed too....but suspect that it's just a case that Apple haven't tested it because it's getting a little long-in-the-tooth.
Did you try a PRAM reset? I've had to do this after installing some updates before, and I'm talking about updates where you wouldn't think you'd need to do a PRAM reset!:-o
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"POWER architecture doesn't even have it; it had to be hacked on in the 970, and is worse in some ways than the MOTO Altivec)"
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I wouldn't exactly say it was "hacked on" and it's certainly not *worse* at comparible clock speeds to the Motorola implementation.
Maybe you can point us to some references?
Also, you don't think renderfarms benefit from Altivec? I know at least a few firms using small clusters of Xserves for rendering.
Yes, the current crop of Motorola processors are definitely lackluster, but let's keep our eyes on the road kids
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Leave Sponge Bob Squarepants out of this! He's my only friend...and he's precious...
(1) Look at pr0n ;-)
(2) Check to see if their hand-knitted scarves and hats are selling well on eBay
(3) Use online personals to find their next 'victim'.
(4) Play Quake
(5) Take their drivers license renewal tests online
(6) Download trucking songs from Kazaa
(7) Complain to congress via email about the state of the roads
(8) Net2Phone with their mom
I think SCO are playing a dangerous game. IBM are a formidible opponent, even if they've had the wind knocked out their sales in recent years.
;-) But this is starting to seem like the technology equivalent of Days of our Lives or something!
Plus, it would probably be a smart thing(tm) for SCO to publicly state what IBMs so-called infrigement is now that they're proceeding with directed action.
Don't get me wroing, I don't love AIX by any stretch of the imagination
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Judging by the amount of DJ and electronic music production equipment in my loft, I'm pretty sure there are some /.ers who like and create music.
/. rather than another forum where you wouldn't have to deal with the abuse ;-)
Just thought it was kinda lame to be asking for Jazz record advice on
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Crikey, if there's questions about jazz on /. now, I'm gonna start asking about pickup lines!
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So, you're claiming that the 32- and 64-bit versions of Solaris, AIX and FreeBSD are entirely *different* operating systems? Because you're currently claiming that a 64-bit version of MacOS X is a seperate operating system.
Adding a kernel profile for a PPC970 is *not* creating a new operating system. Adding 64-bit support in the OS is *not* creating a new operating system.
And your claims that the underlying hardware is "different" are as valid as saying that a 486 and a Pentium are "different hardware". Granted, they're different chips, but they share fundamentally the same roots. Just like the current G4 and the PPC970. Remember that the PPC970 is 100% binary compatible from an instruction point of view and will run *any* G4 code without modification.
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They wouldn't be supporting two operating system, it's the same operating system!
64-bit PPC architecture can run 32-bit PPC code just fine as-is. Which is part of the reason that there are claims of stock MacOS X 10.2.6 being run on these PPC970 machines.
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I guess another application is that this keyboard allows you to easily type while the other hand is occupied ;-)
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I did have an unfortunate accident when trying to board the bus the other day and didn't spool fast enough, so was yanked out of my seat as it pulled away ;-)
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I carry around my own spool of fiber wherever I go which is plugged into a SONET backbone at my apartment...yes I get some stares as I unspool the orange cable while walking down the street, but at least I got 10Gbit/sec of bandwidth at Starbucks rather than having to use their paltry WiFi! ;-)
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...just involves randomly click on stories to approve and not much else...you don't even have to check for duplicates. And, boy, does it get you some classy women too! ;-)
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Am I the only one who *doesn't* see this as the same as a popularized interpretation of force field?
It's more akin to a plasma-based instant tire fixing goop!
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Actually, he didn't. It was a pre-announcement of his death. He's safe and well in Arkansas ;-)
On a serious note, rest in peace Osborne.
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"After that 'all' that they'd need to do would be is recompile the OS (easy)".
Actually, they'd have to write code, too...not just recompile. There's all sorts of CPU support stuff in the OS. It would be a reasonable sized job for the whole OS....the Darwin portions, however, wouldn't be incredibly tough.
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Not necessarily. You may have noticed (or not) that when Sun went 64-bit, you could still run Solaris 32-bit binaries. They just weren't the *best* option.
Don't assume that being 64-bit makes things incompatible...instruction set is still the same.
And look at the 68K tricks Apple did when they introduced PPC, too.
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"and we may even see Firwire [sic] 800" -- huh? There isn't a single G4 shipping that doesn't already have Firewire 800 standard!
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....I'd like to report a fire...yes, it's my cellphone....please come quick.... *HAND BURNING*....quick, I said!!!!!.... *DIALTONE* ;-)
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Apple only has ~US$4bn in the bank, but you didn't mishear: Steve was actually saying that *he* has $41bn in his personal Swiss bank account...mostly from selling his folk music on iTunes (oh, and selling NeXT to Apple, and Apple stock options, and being the CEO of Apple *AND* Pixar....)
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105 celcius is nothing. CPUs often run MUCH hotter than that at the packaging level.
Heck, even the little ICs I design with are rated to function perfectly @ 125 celcius...
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Okay, if this was a farm of FreeBSD machines (a la Yahoo!), then nobody at all would be surprised...even if the machines weren't multi-CPU Xeons.
:-)
If they were other UNIX vendors' machines that had RISC CPUs at a "paltry" ~1Ghz...again, nobody would be surprised because "they're UNIX machines and more reliable and they're 'optmized' and they 'don't run a GUI'".
But because their Macs people seem surprised. That's a Mach kernel with some of the best elements of 4.4BSD and FreeBSD/NetBSD grafted on there for God's sake. Yes, it does have a very slick GUI available, but we're also talking about the SERVER VERSION of OS X.
Someone also mumbled about lack of RAID -- what's XServer RAID, then? Yes, it runs ATA drives...but look at the interesting architecture, you've got each drive on a SEPARATE controller. That, IMHO, negates a lot of issues that ATA has in one single swoop.
Anyhoo, kudos to Apple...iTunes music store seems pretty slick on many levels. And it's good to see them eating their own dog food
-psy
I have a Motorola Timeport P280...mainly because it was an early GPRS "world" phone and had features good for a business traveller (IrDA, USB for GPRS, tri-mode GSM, etc).
;-)
I'm VERY surprised that the P280 isn't listed too....but suspect that it's just a case that Apple haven't tested it because it's getting a little long-in-the-tooth.
Once I find a USB cable, I'll test it
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Did you try a PRAM reset? I've had to do this after installing some updates before, and I'm talking about updates where you wouldn't think you'd need to do a PRAM reset! :-o
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Anyone who's played Sim City knows that! Where are the godzillas?!
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Now *that* was funny ;-)
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