Out of the box, you're right. But in the long run, I doubt it.
Which will have longevity.. a device built for specific features, or a device which can accept linux and have all the software upgradeability of a full-fledged linux box? As times change, you can change the software to reflect your different desires for it.
Currently, there's an excellent foundation for 'organizer' software being developed in Python+Gtk for the ipaq called "Framework". "Mingle" is the result of its use (it currently only does contact list support albeit very well). If the current version of Mingle is any indication, it will be an excellent organizer.
But to me that's beside the point. Under linux, the ipaq is a full-fledged linux box which all the same potential. Taking advantage of its form-factor is both exciting and fun!
I'm sure Compaq's contest annonucement yesterday will only expedite an already large base of support from the linux community.
http://linuxcontest.cpqidea.com/
To resolve these complaints, install the familiar linux distribution:-)
Then you can:
1. Use a Gravis Stinger gamepad and play xmame/snes games
2. Hear no clicking (although you can hear a mp3 or icecast/shoutcast stream with Scream)
3. Dust still a problem but Compaq willing to fix if you're willing to part with it - pay for shipping only.
4. Sleeve does make it bigger..and far more powerful! With pcmcia sleeve, I walk around the house on the internet, using dillo or Konq/e to surf the net while listening to tunes (see 2). Plus my nfs share to my linux box gives me mucho space;)
5. Need more software? Write your own quickly with python and gtk:-)
6. Bill may not appreciate it but you will!
And at the end of the day, it's now a full-fledged computer. I can ssh into my ipaq from work while it sits at home, upgrade it with new ipkgs (think debian.deb files) and remote control it with vnc. Someone recently got apache+php going on it so you can serve up some pages if you like. Also lirc support now coming so I can taunt my wife by changing tv channels with ipaq. The linux environment opens it up and allows it to behave (and be viewed) very differently!
Over the weekend, I used it for 3+ hours in my car on a roadtrip usingt a cassette adapater available at Radio Shack (tunes on microdrive). Worked well for my purposes.
Hmm I first pulled it up and the counter was 279.. with each reload it went up 6-9.. then I went 'away' and back to/. then back to his site and the counter read 48..?
All I was implying was that employing good judgement is no longer en vogue as organizations seek to protect themselves with policies that may be inappropriate in certain circumstances.
Fear of litigation is the first need met by said organizations. After that, they may seek to educate, heal, whatever their mission statement purports.
Regarding what happended, the boy was 13. Do you remember being 13 and having the wearwithall to realize that any discussion of jailtime for such a thing was just a threat or bluff?
One thing is clear.. that boy had a much stronger conscience than any of the 'officials' have yet displayed. Do I blame them, no. It is a tragedy and like many tragedies, playing the blame game only deepens the pain. If his parents were to sue the school district and win, they truly gain nothing. And the ability of the school system to facilitate its mission to educate will be hampered.
It was a situation handled badly with tragic consequences.
As for/. carrying this, from the posting generated it clearly is of interest in some fashion. I also would guess that many readers could have easily entered into a similar situation as this boy did.
But district Superintendent John Fitzsimons said school officials followed disciplinary policies in this case, and although teachers and administrators are grieving the loss, they aren't responsible.
It's all horribly sad. And a grotesque illustration why 'leaders' should be capable mentors and not be ruled by policies. This brilliant policy, blindy applied to this child, was clearly inappropriate.
I hope this unconscionable act haunts these 'officials'.. it should.
I'm oldfashioned
I still think that when I buy a product, it's mine.
As long as I don't cause anyone harm with it, I can do what I like with it.. I paid for it, it's mine. Any Lockian-based support here?
Now we buy with strings attached.. how did the land of amazing consumerism let this happen? Seems like corporatism winning out with the dot-com craziness that's finally burst.
Hopefully now, consumer rights will be back in the forefront while we save our pennies.
Sounds like an opportunity to me.
Setup a website as a forum for posting articles for many disciplines in place of the paper-journal model. Since for scientists, offer TeX,LaTeX,pdf formats as well.
On my ipaq where it's been since November 2000.
I have ipaq running full debian distro using wireless nfs connection to the bulk of the files. Now with stowaway keyboard, it's either a pda if I want to use the apps in familiar distribution or a full-fledged computer (I can browse, ssh, etc. into anything like any other machine).
Only difference I see with Mercury/Oxygen is the enhanced sleeve interface. With the dual-sleeve coming out, I think this would be easy to do for the rest of us.
Ah, them were days.. first two games I ever bought were these. In a sea of copy-my-genre, era of 'sequals', 'prequals' and the like, I really just hope they focus on an original idea instead.
Like Ultima and Wizardry were when they came out... both 'adventure' games but oh how different (and fun!).
The trouble with all these 'initially free' services on the internet is that human nature doesn't like negative change from an initial set of conditions. This particular scenario sounds interesting and (to me) fair since nothing is being 'taken away' and is only being enhanced with the fee.
Too much "bait and switch" these days.. nice to see something more in line with fair practices.
How do you feel on-line privacy should be addressed? Through guidelines, or legislation and regulation? If the latter, what would you like to see included in such legislation and what type of enforcement mechanism should be used to maintain such laws?
Giving credit where it's due... Citrix is where "Terminal Server" came from. For the ability to have all source code to NT, Citrix had to 'give back' what it developed to MS in the form of Terminal Server.
But it took an entire rewrite of the o/s to create an environment conducive to low bandwidth remote sessions. I use daily for access to Outlook/Word/Excel apps on citrix server while mainting my linux laptop for normal comforts. -Nowt
I agree and disagree. I have both a Jornada 720 and ipaq 3600. I bought the jornada with the intent of porting linux to it.
This would have happened already if it weren't for the non-flashable roms that come with the commerical version. I know institutions with other versions afoot that already have linux going.
The ipaq has linux running beautifully.
But why? Why bother?
Simple... control.
Disregarding the shrinkwrap B.S., my view of the world is I bought these devices and they are mine to use as I see fit. My intention for the jornada is to have a sysadmin tool of amazing proportions and the funny thing is that the ipaq shows how absolutely right that would be... I ssh into my ipaq which is running wireless (802.11b). The ipaq does xwindows and many people are writing excellent apps to support it.. mostly open-source. If I want to add a new feature to the python-office stuff being done, I can. No waiting or applying to some company to become a registered developer. I have the freedom and means to make a direct impact on the fuctionality of these devices.
As I type this, JFFS is being added to the ipaq.. some already have it working. It is clear that there is *nothing* that couldn't be run on the ipaq that runs on any other linux device.
And my Jornada.. well I made an effort to boot off compact flash cards and have pasued the effort.. but flashable roms are the real answer.. I bought it for the hardware capabilities; not to get locked into an opsys that makes me "wince". Last year I sent a number of e-mails to HP personnel and engineers lamenting the bygone days of HP's excellent support for their calculators and HP100/200 handhelds.Hopefully this is a step back toward a company who supports hardware openly. If there are any questions on "how", examine Compaq (never thought I'd type that:)
Now there's a word I've been looking for in all this RIAA/mp3 MPAA/DCSS garbage. Anyone up for a boycott of products from RIAA/MPAA members with the Napster changeover? They question the validity of the marketforce of Napster users so let's show them. Instead of saying how many cd's Naspter incites you to buy, let's stop buying!
Attention gained. Point made. And we can get back to our regularly creative reality.
To me, that sums up this sort of article and it's reaction on/. They sell it without any sort of emotional attachment to it's capabilities. We use/try/ignore/appeciate/detest it for it's intellectual beauty/ugliness as devotees of computing technology.
The Open Source movement is comprised of artisans. Purveyors need not (and try not to) take notice.
With the +/-'s of different distro's, and having tried FreeBSD, I'd like to 'go my own way' with linux and compile my own kernels, etc. but want a decent source for pgms. I find the only real benefit with the distros is the programs that come with them. One thing that I love with FreeBSD is the CVS-based repository of programs. Does such a beast exist for general linux programs so I could cvs-get sources to support my own 'distro' ? Regards
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to bitch.. open/free software the way for schools to go... this would foster a generation of people who are knowledgable in open/free appliactions.
Take away Microsoft's demand at this level and this will most likely continue through the student's lives.
FYI, I have xmame v0.36 running very well on ipaq with stinger gamepad is my input device.
Stargate & Joust rock nicely.
Out of the box, you're right. But in the long run, I doubt it.
Which will have longevity.. a device built for specific features, or a device which can accept linux and have all the software upgradeability of a full-fledged linux box? As times change, you can change the software to reflect your different desires for it.
Currently, there's an excellent foundation for 'organizer' software being developed in Python+Gtk for the ipaq called "Framework". "Mingle" is the result of its use (it currently only does contact list support albeit very well). If the current version of Mingle is any indication, it will be an excellent organizer.
But to me that's beside the point. Under linux, the ipaq is a full-fledged linux box which all the same potential. Taking advantage of its form-factor is both exciting and fun!
I'm sure Compaq's contest annonucement yesterday will only expedite an already large base of support from the linux community.
http://linuxcontest.cpqidea.com/
Regarding gamepads, see http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/HardwareProjects
Scroll down to Gravis Stinger and/or SpaceOrb 360 and salt to taste. I use both on my ipaq.
To resolve these complaints, install the familiar linux distribution :-)
;) :-)
.deb files) and remote control it with vnc. Someone recently got apache+php going on it so you can serve up some pages if you like. Also lirc support now coming so I can taunt my wife by changing tv channels with ipaq. The linux environment opens it up and allows it to behave (and be viewed) very differently!
Then you can:
1. Use a Gravis Stinger gamepad and play xmame/snes games
2. Hear no clicking (although you can hear a mp3 or icecast/shoutcast stream with Scream)
3. Dust still a problem but Compaq willing to fix if you're willing to part with it - pay for shipping only.
4. Sleeve does make it bigger..and far more powerful! With pcmcia sleeve, I walk around the house on the internet, using dillo or Konq/e to surf the net while listening to tunes (see 2). Plus my nfs share to my linux box gives me mucho space
5. Need more software? Write your own quickly with python and gtk
6. Bill may not appreciate it but you will!
And at the end of the day, it's now a full-fledged computer. I can ssh into my ipaq from work while it sits at home, upgrade it with new ipkgs (think debian
I am a co-author of "Scream" which is a front-end for madplay in the familiar distribution of linux for the iPAQ.
a m/
Scream is written in python, utilizing pygtk and libglade. I've just added Icecast support with Shoutcast support forthcoming.
Scream is available at http://cvs.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/scre
Over the weekend, I used it for 3+ hours in my car on a roadtrip usingt a cassette adapater available at Radio Shack (tunes on microdrive). Worked well for my purposes.
License is GPL.
Hmm I first pulled it up and the counter was 279.. with each reload it went up 6-9.. then I went 'away' and back to /. then back to his site and the counter read 48..?
Trouble in Dodge?
Reading their licensing 'agreements' always makes me feel like they have you by the nethers!
All I was implying was that employing good judgement is no longer en vogue as organizations seek to protect themselves with policies that may be inappropriate in certain circumstances.
/. carrying this, from the posting generated it clearly is of interest in some fashion. I also would guess that many readers could have easily entered into a similar situation as this boy did.
Fear of litigation is the first need met by said organizations. After that, they may seek to educate, heal, whatever their mission statement purports.
Regarding what happended, the boy was 13. Do you remember being 13 and having the wearwithall to realize that any discussion of jailtime for such a thing was just a threat or bluff?
One thing is clear.. that boy had a much stronger conscience than any of the 'officials' have yet displayed. Do I blame them, no. It is a tragedy and like many tragedies, playing the blame game only deepens the pain. If his parents were to sue the school district and win, they truly gain nothing. And the ability of the school system to facilitate its mission to educate will be hampered.
It was a situation handled badly with tragic consequences.
As for
Nowt
But district Superintendent John Fitzsimons said school officials followed disciplinary policies in this case, and although teachers and administrators are grieving the loss, they aren't responsible.
It's all horribly sad. And a grotesque illustration why 'leaders' should be capable mentors and not be ruled by policies. This brilliant policy, blindy applied to this child, was clearly inappropriate.
I hope this unconscionable act haunts these 'officials'.. it should.
-Nowt
I'm oldfashioned
I still think that when I buy a product, it's mine.
As long as I don't cause anyone harm with it, I can do what I like with it.. I paid for it, it's mine. Any Lockian-based support here?
Now we buy with strings attached.. how did the land of amazing consumerism let this happen? Seems like corporatism winning out with the dot-com craziness that's finally burst.
Hopefully now, consumer rights will be back in the forefront while we save our pennies.
-Nowt
Sounds like an opportunity to me.
Setup a website as a forum for posting articles for many disciplines in place of the paper-journal model. Since for scientists, offer TeX,LaTeX,pdf formats as well.
--Nowt
On my ipaq where it's been since November 2000.
I have ipaq running full debian distro using wireless nfs connection to the bulk of the files.
Now with stowaway keyboard, it's either a pda if I want to use the apps in familiar distribution or a full-fledged computer (I can browse, ssh, etc. into anything like any other machine).
Only difference I see with Mercury/Oxygen is the enhanced sleeve interface. With the dual-sleeve coming out, I think this would be easy to do for the rest of us.
-Nowt
His advice is very sound.
Expect nothing from those around you except what you earn on your own terms.
And especially follow the 'everything in writing' part -- even with 'good friends'.
It's a greedy, litigious world out there...
-nowt
Ah, them were days.. first two games I ever bought were these.
In a sea of copy-my-genre, era of 'sequals', 'prequals' and the like, I really just hope they focus on an original idea instead.
Like Ultima and Wizardry were when they came out... both 'adventure' games but oh how different (and fun!).
The trouble with all these 'initially free' services on the internet is that human nature doesn't like negative change from an initial set of conditions.
This particular scenario sounds interesting and (to me) fair since nothing is being 'taken away' and is only being enhanced with the fee.
Too much "bait and switch" these days.. nice to see something more in line with fair practices.
-nowt
Greetings,
How do you feel on-line privacy should be addressed?
Through guidelines, or legislation and regulation? If the latter, what would you like to see included in such legislation and what type of enforcement mechanism should be used to maintain such laws?
Thank you,
-nowt
Embrace...extend...embrace...extend...
Seriously it sure looks/feels like this to me as well.
Plausible MS internal memo: "If we can't beat linux, we'll ruin it!"
-Ought for Nowt
Giving credit where it's due... Citrix is where "Terminal Server" came from. For the ability to have all source code to NT, Citrix had to 'give back' what it developed to MS in the form of Terminal Server.
But it took an entire rewrite of the o/s to create an environment conducive to low bandwidth remote sessions.
I use daily for access to Outlook/Word/Excel apps on citrix server while mainting my linux laptop for normal comforts.
-Nowt
This would have happened already if it weren't for the non-flashable roms that come with the commerical version. I know institutions with other versions afoot that already have linux going.
The ipaq has linux running beautifully.
But why? Why bother?
Simple... control.
Disregarding the shrinkwrap B.S., my view of the world is I bought these devices and they are mine to use as I see fit. My intention for the jornada is to have a sysadmin tool of amazing proportions and the funny thing is that the ipaq shows how absolutely right that would be... I ssh into my ipaq which is running wireless (802.11b). The ipaq does xwindows and many people are writing excellent apps to support it.. mostly open-source. If I want to add a new feature to the python-office stuff being done, I can. No waiting or applying to some company to become a registered developer. I have the freedom and means to make a direct impact on the fuctionality of these devices.
As I type this, JFFS is being added to the ipaq.. some already have it working. It is clear that there is *nothing* that couldn't be run on the ipaq that runs on any other linux device.
And my Jornada.. well I made an effort to boot off compact flash cards and have pasued the effort.. but flashable roms are the real answer.. I bought it for the hardware capabilities; not to get locked into an opsys that makes me "wince". Last year I sent a number of e-mails to HP personnel and engineers lamenting the bygone days of HP's excellent support for their calculators and HP100/200 handhelds.Hopefully this is a step back toward a company who supports hardware openly. If there are any questions on "how", examine Compaq (never thought I'd type that :)
Best off-topic post yet
Now there's a word I've been looking for in all this RIAA/mp3 MPAA/DCSS garbage. Anyone up for a boycott of products from RIAA/MPAA members with the Napster changeover? They question the validity of the marketforce of Napster users so let's show them. Instead of saying how many cd's Naspter incites you to buy, let's stop buying!
Attention gained. Point made. And we can get back to our regularly creative reality.
The Open Source movement is comprised of artisans. Purveyors need not (and try not to) take notice.
-nowt
You against a plotline. Essentially puzzlesolving, so while I'm at it:
Puzzles! Crosswords, wordfinds, scrambles, etc.
Back to your regularly scheduled day.
-Nowt (or Owt?)
With the +/-'s of different distro's, and having tried FreeBSD, I'd like to 'go my own way' with linux and compile my own kernels, etc. but want a decent source for pgms. I find the only real benefit with the distros is the programs that come with them. One thing that I love with FreeBSD is the CVS-based repository of programs. Does such a beast exist for general linux programs so I could cvs-get sources to support my own 'distro' ? Regards