Compaq is required to install wince on ipaqs. Even though they support linux with their own engineers. You still have to pay the "MS tax" when buying one. They just held a contest for developing programs for the ipaq running linux. I know a finalist who won an ipaq.. it will have wince on it when shipped.
HP has (IMHO) fallen way off from the company they were. Under Fiorina, they're pursuing the MS-marketroid route in typical fashion of the dot-com frenzy. Yes HP isn't windows only.. but the scanner support that's finally emerging for my hp scanner came not from HP.
So why is it when I want to run linux on my jornada 720, after numerous e-mails to HP (engineers, tech mgrs), the only assistance I get is from Compaq engineers (this goes back 8 months). BTW, to be fair.. these 'Compaq' engineers really hail from DEC.
What bugs me most about HP is Fiorina's 'vision' of the company.. Open Source Software doesn't seem to figure in it very highly at all.. at least there's IBM (never thought I'd type that!)
along with Monday's announcement of HP swallowing Compaq makes me wonder what the future of Compaq's iPAQ linux support will be... I'm sure MS attached effective $tring$ onto HP to push wince.
I've seen many articles lately about Compaq's ineffective linux strategy but I feel that what they've done with the iPAQ has been very impressive. I've never been able to have direct contact with the engineers of a device/pc in getting support for linux, like I've had with Compaq (mailing lists and irc).
2 files on a fscked file system. Add in MS-insecurity and your friendly IE/Outlook exploit can toast them all too easily. Then there's netbios... another option for anyone who wants to toast said files.
Add to this the cost of loss of data. Linux' native file system, EXT2FS, is known to lose data like a firehose spouts water when the file system isn't unmounted properly.
So if I delete all (hidden and otherwise) instances of USER.* and SYSTEM.* on a windows pc, life will be merry? I've wasted plenty of time with corrupted registries... As for journaling, clue in to xfs, reiserfs, and ibm's fs. Reiserfs v4 sounds like it will be way ahead of anything else in terms of integrity + security. (sorry to use the "S" word).
My suggestion is to trade in your MSCE for some O'Reilly texts.
is a computer with a Lucent DSP chip to provide telophony support.
I bought 2 of these units and think they are pretty damn great. Right now, they can boot linux and run xwindows + pcmcia support. Unfortunately, the dsp chip itself needs a driver to really use this device as it could be used.. glorified call management device that could forward 'voicemails' as e-mails or posted to a website (which could also be run from said device). I can't wait to get it to the point where I enter my kitchen, click on an icon to review calls,v-mails, etc. Then use 'normally' as a linux computer and run kmail or konqueror to quickly check e-mail or look something up.
They're going to spend the bulk of their time satisfying the court (at first) and creditors (if they last that long) and their products will definately suffer as a result. It's more than most companies can bear.
They need the $50 to help recoup costs, just like all the windows versions charge upon initial release.. but since they trail windows versions by such a great timeframe, you see the pricing discrepency.
I think they would have tried this (quake3 a case where they did..I dunno) but maybe instead of selling directly to us linux geeks, they could 'sell' their porting services to the other software houses to have their items released inside the windows version.. kinda like how all the edu-ware has 'pc/mac' versions on the same cd.
Ok, very naive I know but I really hate to see this happen to them. I just bought quake3 (had windows version for ages but hate going there;) and was about to buy tribes 2 + others.. as previous posts suggest, I think I will (ok maybe not tribes2 for possible lack of servers:( to help them hopefully get through the chap.11.
Their creditors are knocking and any sales will go straight to them unforunately...Best of luck.
of the childish maneuver of making up new rules in a game..
"Wait!! You're breathing my airspace and have therefore consented to my 'sux be you' methane-expulsion-license..fork over $9999 now or be harassed to the fullest extent of modern putridness"
This is what the DOJ should be focusing on... hardware vendors are supposed to sell hardware. Not have some cozy 'bundling' arrangement that attempts to control the hardware after the sale.
Just another chip out of current consumer rights digs. I wonder if people in the future will equate this to a sort of intellectual property-rights laize-fairre (sp?).
I'm replying on a Dell 8000 at 1600x1200. Debian sid distro. Personally, I'd never want Dell's config on any *nix machine I'd run..but I do appreciate buying hardware that has nifty drivers available under linux.
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To add a little here.. iirc, the increidible thing about the Amiga was/is the 3 hardware chips and how they were integrated into the motherboard to provide a better implementation of parallel processing on video vs. i/o vs. audio.
Yes by today's standards the capabilities of each are wanting but I think one of the things the Amiga always did best was to execute programs efficiently.
It's been a while since I've read up on the AmigaOS develeopments that have been happening in the last 1-2 years but they seem to be making decent strides with the OS as well. Now if they can update the hardware, they may truly have something unique again.
It seems to me that the PowerPC stuff is just going to use that stock design (I hope I'm wrong) and rely on the OS for more of the performnace gains.. Either way it will be interesting to see what happens (if anything..I have to be realistic).
But when I sold my original 128K Mac for the 4th A1000 sold in my area, I knew I did the right thing. Nostalgia, yes, but this is being typed on a x86 laptop and I doubt that will change soon. Although as a long time Motorola fan and anti-Intel architecturem, anything to bolster that platform is hopeful to me. (2001 and I gotta worry about 640k ?????)
The password never gets sent to the server, though. That's the key difference. You get a challenge sent to you, and if you can use your private key to sign the challenge, you are allowed access.
This has always been my (naive? correct me please) concern about this.. could a ssh client be hacked to fake a 'signed challenge' since this is all at the client? Or am I missing something (e.g. returned signed key still has to be authenticated at host).
I hear about these mega mergers, I imagine a train hauling the pathetic masses crammed in boxcars with the DOJ as the Engineer... dead at the controls from a CD embedded in their head produced by Time-Warner/Disney/MS/AOL/Exxon-Mobil/Nabisco/(ins ert your favorite conglomerate here)
It's a problem that presents a challenge.. but come on.. isn't it up to it?
Create a decent gnome or kde desktop standard for them, throw on a nice text editor e.g. nedit and settle on perl or python or C (use all three creating C modules for the other 2, even) and set some decent tasks.. let them create the ultimate mandlebrot set generator, funky screensaver, madplay front-end, whatever! Ensure basic programming concepts along with basic commands taught up front so the have the means to grow with it. But children are sharp.. they'll catch on fast to something they perceive as interesting.
It's stuff taught in colleges/universities but there's no reason to wait for that.. there's no prior knowledge needed.
Or if not up to that challenge, go with a non-X bash environment and a language of choice.. write a basic e-mail client or webserver.. something to provide a 'coolness' factor upon completion.
A 'magnet' public highschool where I live is also attracting more and more linux support (all volunteer).
To me, a *nix-based system is a natural for young people.. it invites exploration. With a good admin-setup, it's easy to provide a powerful, yet safe environment for learning and exploring *nix. Remember what got YOU into this stuff;-)
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I fear Fiorina's direction for HP. I don't see "HP embracing linux" a reality.
Compaq is required to install wince on ipaqs. Even though they support linux with their own engineers. You still have to pay the "MS tax" when buying one. They just held a contest for developing programs for the ipaq running linux. I know a finalist who won an ipaq.. it will have wince on it when shipped.
HP has (IMHO) fallen way off from the company they were. Under Fiorina, they're pursuing the MS-marketroid route in typical fashion of the dot-com frenzy. Yes HP isn't windows only.. but the scanner support that's finally emerging for my hp scanner came not from HP.
So why is it when I want to run linux on my jornada 720, after numerous e-mails to HP (engineers, tech mgrs), the only assistance I get is from Compaq engineers (this goes back 8 months). BTW, to be fair.. these 'Compaq' engineers really hail from DEC.
What bugs me most about HP is Fiorina's 'vision' of the company.. Open Source Software doesn't seem to figure in it very highly at all.. at least there's IBM (never thought I'd type that!)
along with Monday's announcement of HP swallowing Compaq makes me wonder what the future of Compaq's iPAQ linux support will be... I'm sure MS attached effective $tring$ onto HP to push wince.
I've seen many articles lately about Compaq's ineffective linux strategy but I feel that what they've done with the iPAQ has been very impressive. I've never been able to have direct contact with the engineers of a device/pc in getting support for linux, like I've had with Compaq (mailing lists and irc).
Today, 'Corporatism' had a good day.
2 files on a fscked file system. Add in MS-insecurity and your friendly IE/Outlook exploit can toast them all too easily. Then there's netbios... another option for anyone who wants to toast said files.
Flamebait but what the heck...
Add to this the cost of loss of data. Linux' native file system, EXT2FS, is known to lose data like a firehose spouts water when the file system isn't unmounted properly.
So if I delete all (hidden and otherwise) instances of USER.* and SYSTEM.* on a windows pc, life will be merry? I've wasted plenty of time with corrupted registries... As for journaling, clue in to xfs, reiserfs, and ibm's fs. Reiserfs v4 sounds like it will be way ahead of anything else in terms of integrity + security. (sorry to use the "S" word).
My suggestion is to trade in your MSCE for some O'Reilly texts.
over "Market ME" features.
is a computer with a Lucent DSP chip to provide telophony support.
I bought 2 of these units and think they are pretty damn great. Right now, they can boot linux and run xwindows + pcmcia support. Unfortunately, the dsp chip itself needs a driver to really use this device as it could be used.. glorified call management device that could forward 'voicemails' as e-mails or posted to a website (which could also be run from said device). I can't wait to get it to the point where I enter my kitchen, click on an icon to review calls,v-mails, etc. Then use 'normally' as a linux computer and run kmail or konqueror to quickly check e-mail or look something up.
still infantile
(sorry, couldn't resist)
They're going to spend the bulk of their time satisfying the court (at first) and creditors (if they last that long) and their products will definately suffer as a result. It's more than most companies can bear.
They need the $50 to help recoup costs, just like all the windows versions charge upon initial release.. but since they trail windows versions by such a great timeframe, you see the pricing discrepency.
;) and was about to buy tribes 2 + others.. as previous posts suggest, I think I will (ok maybe not tribes2 for possible lack of servers :( to help them hopefully get through the chap.11.
I think they would have tried this (quake3 a case where they did..I dunno) but maybe instead of selling directly to us linux geeks, they could 'sell' their porting services to the other software houses to have their items released inside the windows version.. kinda like how all the edu-ware has 'pc/mac' versions on the same cd.
Ok, very naive I know but I really hate to see this happen to them. I just bought quake3 (had windows version for ages but hate going there
Their creditors are knocking and any sales will go straight to them unforunately...Best of luck.
of the childish maneuver of making up new rules in a game..
"Wait!! You're breathing my airspace and have therefore consented to my 'sux be you' methane-expulsion-license..fork over $9999 now or be harassed to the fullest extent of modern putridness"
Who am I to argue.. though Skyline always known as "Ska-li-knees" to me.
;-)
Too much time wasted near that intersection
Gold Star or Skyline? Aglamesis or Graeters?
I agree. It will be interesting to see how soon Sklarov's released without trying to link the events.
... pathogenic multi-national monopoly.. will the real virus please be busted up?
This is what the DOJ should be focusing on... hardware vendors are supposed to sell hardware. Not have some cozy 'bundling' arrangement that attempts to control the hardware after the sale.
Just another chip out of current consumer rights digs. I wonder if people in the future will equate this to a sort of intellectual property-rights laize-fairre (sp?).
I'm replying on a Dell 8000 at 1600x1200. Debian sid distro. Personally, I'd never want Dell's config on any *nix machine I'd run..but I do appreciate buying hardware that has nifty drivers available under linux.
To add a little here.. iirc, the increidible thing about the Amiga was/is the 3 hardware chips and how they were integrated into the motherboard to provide a better implementation of parallel processing on video vs. i/o vs. audio.
Yes by today's standards the capabilities of each are wanting but I think one of the things the Amiga always did best was to execute programs efficiently.
It's been a while since I've read up on the AmigaOS develeopments that have been happening in the last 1-2 years but they seem to be making decent strides with the OS as well. Now if they can update the hardware, they may truly have something unique again.
It seems to me that the PowerPC stuff is just going to use that stock design (I hope I'm wrong) and rely on the OS for more of the performnace gains.. Either way it will be interesting to see what happens (if anything..I have to be realistic).
But when I sold my original 128K Mac for the 4th A1000 sold in my area, I knew I did the right thing. Nostalgia, yes, but this is being typed on a x86 laptop and I doubt that will change soon. Although as a long time Motorola fan and anti-Intel architecturem, anything to bolster that platform is hopeful to me. (2001 and I gotta worry about 640k ?????)
Ok, so based on the public key I send, I receive a 'challenge' which I decrypt with my private key and send back to the server to authenticate?
Just trying to truly understand this.
The password never gets sent to the server, though. That's the key difference. You get a challenge sent to you, and if you can use your private key to sign the challenge, you are allowed access.
:)
This has always been my (naive? correct me please) concern about this.. could a ssh client be hacked to fake a 'signed challenge' since this is all at the client? Or am I missing something (e.g. returned signed key still has to be authenticated at host).
Inquiring minds want to know
I hear about these mega mergers, I imagine a train hauling the pathetic masses crammed in boxcars with the DOJ as the Engineer... dead at the controls from a CD embedded in their head produced by Time-Warner/Disney/MS/AOL/Exxon-Mobil/Nabisco/(ins ert your favorite conglomerate here)
the enforncemen of this bad legislation sets the political stage to bring about fundamental change to the DMCA. Or so I hope...
Yes it has.. vsound.
Agreed!
It's a problem that presents a challenge.. but come on.. isn't it up to it?
Create a decent gnome or kde desktop standard for them, throw on a nice text editor e.g. nedit and settle on perl or python or C (use all three creating C modules for the other 2, even) and set some decent tasks.. let them create the ultimate mandlebrot set generator, funky screensaver, madplay front-end, whatever! Ensure basic programming concepts along with basic commands taught up front so the have the means to grow with it. But children are sharp.. they'll catch on fast to something they perceive as interesting.
It's stuff taught in colleges/universities but there's no reason to wait for that.. there's no prior knowledge needed.
Or if not up to that challenge, go with a non-X bash environment and a language of choice.. write a basic e-mail client or webserver.. something to provide a 'coolness' factor upon completion.
I am doing this for my sons' school.
;-)
A 'magnet' public highschool where I live is also attracting more and more linux support (all volunteer).
To me, a *nix-based system is a natural for young people.. it invites exploration. With a good admin-setup, it's easy to provide a powerful, yet safe environment for learning and exploring *nix. Remember what got YOU into this stuff