"The hard disk controller manufactured by Promise is currently found on high-end motherboards in numerous computer models, either as a [pure IDE controller (for UDMA 100) or as an IDE-RAID controller. As of SuSE Linux 8.0, these controllers are directly supported by the kernel and treated as a standard controller for IDE hard disks. The additonal kernel module pdcraid is reuired before you can acquire RAID functionality".
The start variables in rc.config are no longer needed, as they now match run levels much more closely (basically they are deprecating rc.config). You will find individual scripts under/etc/sysconfig.
Also noticed a SuSe hardware boot time hardware detection utility, similer to that of Redhat's.
Gnome 1.4.1 is included too.
Promise IDE Raid controllers are fully supported.
Came on time for most people, for others it was ea
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Recieved my copy yesterday, the 22nd. Precisely on time. Like Lord of the Rings, people in Europe have been getting theirs before the US.
feedback@suse.com or feedback@suse.de is the place to send your comments...I have SuSE 8.0, the new yast has been improved, however I miss the ability to navigate and select which packages to install through yast1. I noticed an expert option on yast2 online update though that lets you select FTP, but have yet to figure it out as it seems to not work as I would expect.
Its poor management, or total knowledge and internal admittence that they have such a large monopoly over most markets that they can carry out bully tactics like this.
However, keep this up and it won't be Linux/Mac that causes Microsoft's downfall, it will be themselves for being so *evil*. Its bad policy to piss so many clientale off.
I believe that the release date was achieved via the game stores, and trust me they don't know as much as they seems to suggest:
"BioWare's new publishing partner, Infogrames, has just announced in their press release that Neverwinter Nights will be launched worldwide in Summer, 2002. We apologize for the delay in getting back to you during the day today - we want to try to clarify this date announcement since so many people have been posting about it on the message boards.
Please understand that we are committed to releasing games when they are finished, polished and ready for the world. For a game as complex, epic and multifaceted as Neverwinter Nights, this is especially the case. The massive scope and flexibility intrinsic in the Toolset, the DM Client and the Official Campaign will be unprecedented in the gaming world and, as a result, we must carefully test every aspect of Neverwinter Nights. With a new publisher, there is a new plan for marketing, QA, localization and distribution.
To that end, BioWare and Infogrames now feel that Summer 2002 (which could mean as early as May or June) is a good conservative estimate of the distribution date - guaranteeing a game worthy of the quality inherent under the titles of Dungeons and Dragons, Infogrames and BioWare. We are still aiming for the same development completion targets that we were aiming for in the past, but Infogrames and BioWare both want to provide a safe target window for the game to be ready in terms of the things that are covered by the publisher working in conjunction with the development team - distribution, localization, marketing and testing.
Thanks - as always as we get more information we'll update you. Our fans are very important to us.
Ray Muzyka Greg Zeschuk Joint CEO's BioWare Corp. "
Please clarify your sources as Bioware have always firmly stated that it will shoot for a release when ready, and to them Summer is the best guess.
Would it be possible for a number of small firms that have lost a lot of money and time wasted over these lawsuits produced by the Patent Office's lack of care in looking for prior art to actually take a class action lawsuit against the Patent Office? Perhaps, they could try and prove loss of wealth and try and prove that the Patent Office is failing?
Just a thought, yes I know its an expense to do..But just wondered.
Not so much because they ship crappy code, they can do that all decade long for all I care.
What I care about is innovation, competition and the rights of business to conduct business the way they see fit.
Unfortuantly, when you get a monopoly they conduct business in ways to make sure no-one else thrives, hence the "PC ecosystem" becomes dominated by one predator who won't let any other threat to its dominance survive. Indeed a company within the "PC Ecosystem" that starts to thrive becomes a viable meal for the predatory MSFT (the next version of Windows is then likely to feature the same or similer product bundled within its confines, nbecause its proven itself to be popular). As for bundling, well this goes without saying; the PC ecosystem employed by MSFT is in actuality an "MS ecosystem".
Too much damage has already been done by them, advertantly and maybe inadvertantly. Really hope the 9 states get a lot of what they want, but the release of the Windows source might be a little too much. Perhaps having every MSFT business dealing with the OEMs public and scrutinized might help, and indeed having many formats opened up with the stipulation that changes need to be documented well in advance.
We'll see what happens. But for these anti-competitive and innovation stifling measures its the only reason I dislike them.
"SuSE seems happier on a more proprietary road, and some things like their X drivers occasionally shine for this approach".
Which X drivers do you speak of? Nvidia? The Nvidia driver you find with SuSE is not the proprietary one shipped with Nvidia, its a dummy one. Before you say Yast, yes its not GPL'd, however one can do anything with its source that is included. Only stipulation is that you cannot sell it on.
Caldera is in its own area as they charge licensing fee's for each box. Whilst SuSE does not, buy a box and do with it as you would Mandrake or anyone else. Only real difference is SuSE offering FTP download for free a month after its boxed release date.
"I believe you could mix Mandrake and Debian (urpmi, at heart, doesn't care whether it's based on RPM or PKG), or SuSE and Caldera (for a distro that knows Novell and displays well), and get a much better outcome."
Although no-one has mentioned it on there bulletin board yet. Real astronomers visit this board, indeed a real one runs it.
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This should be an article, best written one on both systems.
I use Mac OS X, I have to where I work (won't reveal where that is), but I miss the flexibility and power I get on Linux.
But, where Apple is going they made the right choice (also in terms of their user base).
Finally, another reason for developers at various companies and industries to port. This could be good for Linux (once you have done one port, might as well do a Linux one).
Also, its a consumer OS. Would you want your corporate computers to be able to do multimedia generally?
Lol, I probably played to many combat flight sims, "oh no, I am being targeted...".
Same for me as you said, I would use it in addition to my Linux box. In fact, the new Imac looks as though it could quite easily fit between my server and my desktop. Then one could use an Ipod to access a share on my linux box and copy across all those MP3's to it. Hmmm:).
There is no love lost between them, a non-competition agreement is illegal anyhow...But ever since Jobs came back on Apple have been able to stand on their own two feet and will perhaps get stronger.
There still is a strong wintel alliance, why would they upset this? Apple is purely RISC and will remain so, they won't port OSX across to the x86 platform ever. In fact wanna run x86 hardware? Use Linux, with the new KDE 3 its gonna rock, those guys deserve a medal at the very least.
One thing I wish though, I wish Apple had a more open Open Source panel, just like HP have. Would be nice to see Apple at Linuxworld and perhaps even have Steve give a speech there someday.
StarTux
PS Like in another post, I like OSX it is very nice, but I prefer linux personnally. All about choice and its darn nice to have it!
So having a player set on its region after 5 plays on a particular region is cool?
Used MacOSX much more than you realize (ain't gonna tell you where or how) I do like it alot, but prefer KDE 2x because I can customize it much more (to be fair Linux is really having more impact on the Intel architecture, we know who owns that desktop area). This may not be the best thing for total newbies who could get lost and end up changing things and not know how to get back, plus would they install Linux? Doubt it...
PPC hardware is cool, RISC processors do make a difference in speed and I do like them a lot. I like Apple a lot too (its a fun culture too) and hope they can continue to hire Open Source people and continue to release more apps.
Here is something to check out:
opensource.apple.com
Two things that I don't like hearing from the Apple camp, as a long time Linux user and Open Source advocate:
"FreeBSD is on 3 times as many desktops as Linux"
Been discussed before, or:
"We're targeting Linux users..."
Don't like the word targeting, give me a decent OS that I can do all sorts of cool things on and I'll be using your system too. Notice I said too, I'd set up 3 boot partitions: 1 with MacOSX 1 with OS9 and one with Linux. That way I could totally change desktops when I feel like it, not be stuck with one. Currently do something similer with a dual boot between windows and Linux, with the Linux partition having Ximian Gnome and the latest stable KDE. Love this combo. Then to have MacOSX would be a dream too.
Any, enough from me...
StarTux
Re:What was interesting...
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Well it was close, check the locations etc in 2.4 and 2.2. More than just recompilation, but perhaps complete re-write was a little extreme. Nevertheless it was a large under taking imho.
That is very true...Does it reconfigure the Nvidia driver if you upgrade the kernel? Not nit picking as you're updating the kernel and should really know how to do this fix it step...
I prefer SuSE for all the other things it offers, but thats a good point:).
Was to say how easy it was to install as Linux is percieved very differently in this case. They even mentioned TV card install on SuSE (with a slight jab to Win XP).
Hopefully 2.6 won't be too long in its incarnation, rather than the 2 years or so with 2.4, but 2.5 doesn't seem to be the huge re-write that took place with 2.3.
How many times do you run binaries from people you don't know? The e-mail route is likely to be the least effective.
The upload scenerio is likely to be more worriesome and unfortuanlty few people will take preventive measures, until this method has been proven to be valid (as in lots get infected from a cracked program).
Slashdot Mirror
Straight from the update manual:
:).
"The hard disk controller manufactured by Promise is currently found on high-end motherboards in numerous computer models, either as a [pure IDE controller (for UDMA 100) or as an IDE-RAID controller. As of SuSE Linux 8.0, these controllers are directly supported by the kernel and treated as a standard controller for IDE hard disks. The additonal kernel module pdcraid is reuired before you can acquire RAID functionality".
Guess there is you answer
StarTux
The start variables in rc.config are no longer needed, as they now match run levels much more closely (basically they are deprecating rc.config). You will find individual scripts under /etc/sysconfig.
Also noticed a SuSe hardware boot time hardware detection utility, similer to that of Redhat's.
Gnome 1.4.1 is included too.
Promise IDE Raid controllers are fully supported.
Recieved my copy yesterday, the 22nd. Precisely on time. Like Lord of the Rings, people in Europe have been getting theirs before the US.
StarTux
feedback@suse.com or feedback@suse.de is the place to send your comments...I have SuSE 8.0, the new yast has been improved, however I miss the ability to navigate and select which packages to install through yast1. I noticed an expert option on yast2 online update though that lets you select FTP, but have yet to figure it out as it seems to not work as I would expect.
You'll be able to do an FTP install in about 3 weeks to 4 weeks.
They do have an eval CD that is an ISO though.
Go to the SuSE suppiort page and sign up for the excellent mailing list there. Also search the databse for answers.
Its poor management, or total knowledge and internal admittence that they have such a large monopoly over most markets that they can carry out bully tactics like this.
However, keep this up and it won't be Linux/Mac that causes Microsoft's downfall, it will be themselves for being so *evil*. Its bad policy to piss so many clientale off.
StarTux
I believe that the release date was achieved via the game stores, and trust me they don't know as much as they seems to suggest:
"BioWare's new publishing partner, Infogrames, has just announced in their press release that Neverwinter Nights will be launched worldwide in Summer, 2002. We apologize for the delay in getting back to you during the day today - we want to try to clarify this date announcement since so many people have been posting about it on the message boards.
Please understand that we are committed to releasing games when they are finished, polished and ready for the world. For a game as complex, epic and multifaceted as Neverwinter Nights, this is especially the case. The massive scope and flexibility intrinsic in the Toolset, the DM Client and the Official Campaign will be unprecedented in the gaming world and, as a result, we must carefully test every aspect of Neverwinter Nights. With a new publisher, there is a new plan for marketing, QA, localization and distribution.
To that end, BioWare and Infogrames now feel that Summer 2002 (which could mean as early as May or June) is a good conservative estimate of the distribution date - guaranteeing a game worthy of the quality inherent under the titles of Dungeons and Dragons, Infogrames and BioWare. We are still aiming for the same development completion targets that we were aiming for in the past, but Infogrames and BioWare both want to provide a safe target window for the game to be ready in terms of the things that are covered by the publisher working in conjunction with the development team - distribution, localization, marketing and testing.
Thanks - as always as we get more information we'll update you. Our fans are very important to us.
Ray Muzyka Greg Zeschuk
Joint CEO's BioWare Corp. "
Please clarify your sources as Bioware have always firmly stated that it will shoot for a release when ready, and to them Summer is the best guess.
MAtt
Would it be possible for a number of small firms that have lost a lot of money and time wasted over these lawsuits produced by the Patent Office's lack of care in looking for prior art to actually take a class action lawsuit against the Patent Office? Perhaps, they could try and prove loss of wealth and try and prove that the Patent Office is failing?
Just a thought, yes I know its an expense to do..But just wondered.
StarTux
Not so much because they ship crappy code, they can do that all decade long for all I care.
What I care about is innovation, competition and the rights of business to conduct business the way they see fit.
Unfortuantly, when you get a monopoly they conduct business in ways to make sure no-one else thrives, hence the "PC ecosystem" becomes dominated by one predator who won't let any other threat to its dominance survive. Indeed a company within the "PC Ecosystem" that starts to thrive becomes a viable meal for the predatory MSFT (the next version of Windows is then likely to feature the same or similer product bundled within its confines, nbecause its proven itself to be popular). As for bundling, well this goes without saying; the PC ecosystem employed by MSFT is in actuality an "MS ecosystem".
Too much damage has already been done by them, advertantly and maybe inadvertantly. Really hope the 9 states get a lot of what they want, but the release of the Windows source might be a little too much. Perhaps having every MSFT business dealing with the OEMs public and scrutinized might help, and indeed having many formats opened up with the stipulation that changes need to be documented well in advance.
We'll see what happens. But for these anti-competitive and innovation stifling measures its the only reason I dislike them.
"SuSE seems happier on a more proprietary road, and some things like their X drivers occasionally shine for this approach".
:).
Which X drivers do you speak of? Nvidia? The Nvidia driver you find with SuSE is not the proprietary one shipped with Nvidia, its a dummy one. Before you say Yast, yes its not GPL'd, however one can do anything with its source that is included. Only stipulation is that you cannot sell it on.
Caldera is in its own area as they charge licensing fee's for each box. Whilst SuSE does not, buy a box and do with it as you would Mandrake or anyone else. Only real difference is SuSE offering FTP download for free a month after its boxed release date.
"I believe you could mix Mandrake and Debian (urpmi, at heart, doesn't care whether it's based on RPM or PKG), or SuSE and Caldera (for a distro that knows Novell and displays well), and get a much better outcome."
Give it a try and see what happens sometime
Matt
best place to lay any media inaccuracies to rest.
here it is again, www.badastronomy.com
Although no-one has mentioned it on there bulletin board yet. Real astronomers visit this board, indeed a real one runs it.
This should be an article, best written one on both systems.
I use Mac OS X, I have to where I work (won't reveal where that is), but I miss the flexibility and power I get on Linux.
But, where Apple is going they made the right choice (also in terms of their user base).
Finally, another reason for developers at various companies and industries to port. This could be good for Linux (once you have done one port, might as well do a Linux one).
Also, its a consumer OS. Would you want your corporate computers to be able to do multimedia generally?
MS Office would be good marketing...But bad as it would give macro viruses a route into a Linux users doc's etc.
Hopefully with a miracle MSFT will be forced to open the specs to these file formats perhaps.
Matt
You're not trolling as quite a lot of people just do not like AA text, even in the Mac world.
Matt
They must mean KDE 3.
I thought shared source meant look at the source, but don't tinker with it, am I wrong?
Matt
If I said this or most people saying this they would have most likely been ignored.
Good job RMS,
Matt
Lol, I probably played to many combat flight sims, "oh no, I am being targeted...".
:).
Same for me as you said, I would use it in addition to my Linux box. In fact, the new Imac looks as though it could quite easily fit between my server and my desktop. Then one could use an Ipod to access a share on my linux box and copy across all those MP3's to it. Hmmm
Matt
There is no love lost between them, a non-competition agreement is illegal anyhow...But ever since Jobs came back on Apple have been able to stand on their own two feet and will perhaps get stronger.
There still is a strong wintel alliance, why would they upset this? Apple is purely RISC and will remain so, they won't port OSX across to the x86 platform ever. In fact wanna run x86 hardware? Use Linux, with the new KDE 3 its gonna rock, those guys deserve a medal at the very least.
One thing I wish though, I wish Apple had a more open Open Source panel, just like HP have. Would be nice to see Apple at Linuxworld and perhaps even have Steve give a speech there someday.
StarTux
PS Like in another post, I like OSX it is very nice, but I prefer linux personnally. All about choice and its darn nice to have it!
StarTux
>Having a legal DVD player is also a plus.
So having a player set on its region after 5 plays on a particular region is cool?
Used MacOSX much more than you realize (ain't gonna tell you where or how) I do like it alot, but prefer KDE 2x because I can customize it much more (to be fair Linux is really having more impact on the Intel architecture, we know who owns that desktop area). This may not be the best thing for total newbies who could get lost and end up changing things and not know how to get back, plus would they install Linux? Doubt it...
PPC hardware is cool, RISC processors do make a difference in speed and I do like them a lot. I like Apple a lot too (its a fun culture too) and hope they can continue to hire Open Source people and continue to release more apps.
Here is something to check out:
opensource.apple.com
Two things that I don't like hearing from the Apple camp, as a long time Linux user and Open Source advocate:
"FreeBSD is on 3 times as many desktops as Linux"
Been discussed before, or:
"We're targeting Linux users..."
Don't like the word targeting, give me a decent OS that I can do all sorts of cool things on and I'll be using your system too. Notice I said too, I'd set up 3 boot partitions: 1 with MacOSX 1 with OS9 and one with Linux. That way I could totally change desktops when I feel like it, not be stuck with one. Currently do something similer with a dual boot between windows and Linux, with the Linux partition having Ximian Gnome and the latest stable KDE. Love this combo. Then to have MacOSX would be a dream too.
Any, enough from me...
StarTux
Well it was close, check the locations etc in 2.4 and 2.2. More than just recompilation, but perhaps complete re-write was a little extreme. Nevertheless it was a large under taking imho.
Matt
That is very true...Does it reconfigure the Nvidia driver if you upgrade the kernel? Not nit picking as you're updating the kernel and should really know how to do this fix it step...
:).
I prefer SuSE for all the other things it offers, but thats a good point
Matt
Was to say how easy it was to install as Linux is percieved very differently in this case. They even mentioned TV card install on SuSE (with a slight jab to Win XP).
Hopefully 2.6 won't be too long in its incarnation, rather than the 2 years or so with 2.4, but 2.5 doesn't seem to be the huge re-write that took place with 2.3.
Matt
Everywhere you look MSFT decide to make something for that arena, from handhelds to of course desktops.
Only exception is Linux...
Matt
How many times do you run binaries from people you don't know? The e-mail route is likely to be the least effective.
The upload scenerio is likely to be more worriesome and unfortuanlty few people will take preventive measures, until this method has been proven to be valid (as in lots get infected from a cracked program).
Matt