I was planning on upgrading my own small servers with some of these drives, but have also made the switch to Matrox. I grew up the son of an IBM company man, who had great pride in IBM. This pride was passed down to me, and I've always trusted IBM for quality and dependability when it came to hardware for "Business Machines"... this is not just a black eye for IBM, but an end of an era.
Even with the nicest possible service... you're still looking at latency far in excess of dial-up. Think about it, your packets need to go up pretty far, then from back down pretty far before they even reach the net!
Oh yea! Especailly the new Harry Potter set!
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Legos are truly the greatest toy you can get for the little geek in your life. My younger cousins are all clamouring for the new Harry Potter set. The new sets just keep them interested, I can't imagine how anyone would find them to be the "death of imagination".
Satalite is just nasty. I had one for 5 months while I was playing nature-boy. You're better off with 30 modems, shotgunning them so you have 15 fast connections with drastically reduced ping times. I dunno how big a school this is... but if we assume you just need 15 the price for service is about $7(if you're smart about your ISP)x30 = $210 a month. Plus the cost of shotgun modems.
One aspect of TransGaming's model is based on the Street Performer Protocol. We are licensing some of our 3D code under the Aladdin Free Public License, which restricts certain forms of commercial redistribution. Users may freely download and use the software, but will be encouraged to subscribe to our subscription service. We will not release that code under a less restrictive license (such as the Wine license) unless and until we have a paying subscriber base of at least 20,000 users. This means that our work will not be fully incorporated into the main Wine source base before that point. Further development of our work will also be predicated on that subscriber base being sustained. This gives our customers a direct incentive to stick with us - if our subscription revenue dries out, so will our release of new code.
That's an interesting approach, "We've got you by the balls, so keep paying". While some people will be quick to point out "This is just a friendlier version of MicroSoft's subscription model".. it is not. This is more like Public Broadcasting's subscription model... the content is freely available to all, but some people NEED to support it or there will not be any new content... period. I hope this works. I'm a big fan of the PBS model.
hmmm considering the nature of slashdot, I thought it would be best to disclaim that the whole post needs to be read before it can be understood as it was intended.
I just know I'm going to get modded down for troll, but please READ this post ALL the way through before you do so. I am not a Win32 zealot, I love Linux and want only the best for it.
Anyway, this should be considered a good thing, as linux needs as much support as it can get when it comes to multimedia applications, and especially ones from big companies
There is already a Shoutcast for linux, why would you need client sortware on a server OS? Why do you want people to waste time on this, when developers could better be spending their time competeing with Unix in the enterprise market. That's esentially what this is... a waste of time and resources. The most precious resource the Linux community has is it's developers, shouldn't you be encouraging them to play to their strengths instead of "run multimedia apps and have office so Linux can be just like Windows". I don't want Linux to be just like Windows. If I want Windows I have windows. If I want an affordable server solution I have Linux... and that, in all honesty, is a solution that needs some more solving.
Please stop crying for Linux to be a desktop OS. Perhaps it will evolve into one after it has swallowed the server market, but now is not the time to spend valuable resources on it.
I moved out to maine from San Jose, Ca about 1 year ago to the day. I first moved up into Farmington, a very small town. I loved it, it was like camping everyday. There was nothing but forest for as far as I could see from my window. But the only available internet option was satalite... so I was forced to move back to the city. I would really like a nice solution in the forest someday, so that I can return.
"For some reason Slashdot gets a lot of submissions of wacko energy concepts"
Well maybe if you stopped posting them, these so-called "wacko" concepts wouldn't be submitted. Though I personally disagree, I would call these "desperate attempts at alternative energy"... and while it becomes tiresome to hear we should have 500mpg engines in 5 years, every year, for the last 5 years... as long as this research continues they may just live up to their promise someday.
(replace AT&T with Adelphia if they happen to be the one gobbling up your local cable provider)
We are AT&T, we will add your technological destictiveness to our own, while purchasing your pipes and customer base at pennys of the initial cost. Lower your shields, resistance is futile.
If there is any cable providers besides AT&T, AOL, and Adelphia in 2 years I'll be amazed.
It might pick up with the economy... but I doubt it because of the amount needed to invest in new COs. It's a really risky business to be investing in anything that expensive. That was on of Vitt's downfalls... they had a LOT of VC money to blow, and they spent nearly all of it on fascilities, including COs in places noone else would go near and a huge multi-million dollar state-of-the-art Co-Lo fascility. I personally got to tour this fascility 2 months before Vitts filed Chapter 11, it was quite impressive.
Most ADSL providers block port 25 and almost all ADSL is capped at about what Road-Runner is capping. If you wish to run a server I would recomend an SDSL product... which can be very expensive, but cheaper than a T1 and faster. I am not aware of any port blocking by any SDSL provider.
Very fascinating read, with lots of graphs that really strike the message home. But what is the point? Anyone with an internet connection will have no doubt experienced the instability.
I've personally had a particularly poor router lossing my packets for the last week, and have been trace routing it from all over the country to triangulate the problem. Doing a tracert from Maine, California and Texas seems to provide a reasonable picture of what's going on with a specific router by triangulating in on the offending router... so I'm a bit unclear on why this study was called for, unless it's just to point fingers at microsoft...
I have posted here many times stating something to the effect of: "The reason these guys are going down is the same reason Pets.com went down, you just can't give away $400-500 modems and expect to make a profit. I'm working with a small New England DSL provider, and we make customers pay for their modems, because they understand this and know we won't be shutting them down unexpectedly like Covad, Vitts, North Point, etc..."
I was wrong, we went under too. I suspect the DSL industry will rebound but it will only rebound as a few companies that bought out the first generation of DSL providers for penies of what it cost to creat the infrastructure and customer base.
I see the same thing happening with the cable modem industry, as Adelphia is gobbling up cable providers that fall too far into the red. Practically overnight, an unheard of little Cable Company in New York has sprung up with customers and pipes coast to coast at a fraction of what it cost to build.
This is a good and a bad thing... it's good for present DSL customers with local COs because someone else will likely move in and keep their connection on... but don't expect these guys to invest in more COs to expand their reach to more customers. If you don't have a local CO now, you won't for the forseeable future.
I agree, it should be "All but 2 Rage Against the Machine songs"... as all but 2 are anti-america, and decidedly not appropriate for time of war.
At the same time we've got:
The Beatles "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" (LSD song)
Pink Floyd "Mother" (a song about an overbearing mother)
Godsmack "Bad Religion" (christian hypocrisy in america)
Filter "Hey Man, Nice Shot" (politician commiting suicide due to a scandal he had nothing to do with, if anything this should become Condit's theme song)
Tramps "Disco Inferno" (WTF!? Disco Lives!)
Taking a look at that, I have no idea what criteria they're using for this list.
Don't get me wrong though, I think this black listing is really counter productive. Corporate Blacklisting goes WAY beyond censorship, as far as I'm concerned.
Well I'm unfortunatly unable to boycott adobe, as are all other professionals in this field, so grin and bare it for those of you interested!
PS: I did however make it a point to speak with my congressman directly about the DMCA. So I hope I've at least done my part, despite providing the enemy with more funds.
I'm not too impressed with anything I've seen from VRML, but Adobe's Atmoshpere was a bit of an eye opener. Check it out yourself at Adobe's Site... free to play with while it's in beta. I haven't personally developed for this yet, but I hear it's quite intuitive. As a bonus, you have site-specific chat. Now if they will just add site-specific-VoIP I will start taking a more active interest, but for now I think all of this 3d Browser stuff is a bit academic as noone has found any particualarly good use for this stuff yet (at least nothing that the mainstream surfer is going to clamour for).
I spent 4 months in the San Jose Juvi. I was not a total geek, but I sure as hell was not a gang-banger... which is exactly what everyone else was in there. I only got into one fight, but fights are the least of your worries. Try to imagine what it's like to be surrounded by murderers and rapists all day long. I will assume that he is relatively bright, and will have to deal with being in a confined space with people who are not only ignorant and poorly educated, but also very intolerant of educated-types.
4 months was way too long for me, 8 months would be an eternity. Granted... he will likely not have to deal with the sort of racism I faced (I was 1 of 4 white people, our of 600) in San Jose, but he is definetly not getting off easy.
This is the first time America has suffered tremendous casualities of the Holy War ongoing in the middle east. I hope that when the dust settles america realizes that the people who commited this horenous act... are in fact people too. Despite how painful it might be to acknowledge this, they are people just like you and me.
Most people like you and me are not motivated sufficiently to give up their life for a cause. In fact, in Islamic traditions, suicide means a certain fate in hell. Yet today we have been visited with a horror that could only be brought by suicidical means.
How could people like you and me veto their natural basic instict for survival? God. The devout belief in God provides an "out". You don't need to worry about your survival if your mind is operating on the assumption that there is something greater than life.
I would hope that Americans can set aside their own personal beliefs and unite in an attempt to ban practicing religion. It is religion that killed the Aztecs. It is religion that brought us the inquisition. It is religion that has brought us the non-stop terror in the middle east. 2 very talented programmers (and slashdot readers) I know were drafted into the Isreal Armed Forces last year. 4 Months ago one of them was killed. I lost a friend because of a "Belief". How many friends and family did you lose today because of a "Belief"?
Good idea, but this is not Utopia
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The idea of no retalitation and just allowing for peace is definetly the utopian solution.
Unfortuantly the people that conduct themselves in this manner live in a distopia, often impoverished and spiteful.
You cannot reason with people on civilized and rationalized terms, when they themselves are foriegn to these concepts.
They understand the language of violence, and under these terms have set the pace. If we do not respond in kind we risk further attacks.
It is a vicious cycle, and I truly wish this was not the case, but this is the reality. Violence will rule this world for the remainder of your lifetime... get used to it.
If you gain an advantage from something you did not work for, could it be said that you have gained an unfair advantage?
I don't play these online roleplaying games, but let me give you a real-life example...
Let us say I am beating the snot out of Mike Tyson (hey this is my example, I can beat up Mike Tyson in my exmples) and I'm up by several points. Don King comes over to my corner, hands me some cash and I take a enough hits to give Mike some more points.
Money for a score, where as this Ebaying is money for an item in a game without scores. Either way you're taking a dive.
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It's not a question of IBM being good or bad... it's just the disillusionment that "IBM can do no wrong".
IBM is still the champ in many respects, but Mike Tyson was once too.
Sorry, cixelsyd am I :)
I was planning on upgrading my own small servers with some of these drives, but have also made the switch to Matrox. I grew up the son of an IBM company man, who had great pride in IBM. This pride was passed down to me, and I've always trusted IBM for quality and dependability when it came to hardware for "Business Machines"... this is not just a black eye for IBM, but an end of an era.
Even with the nicest possible service... you're still looking at latency far in excess of dial-up. Think about it, your packets need to go up pretty far, then from back down pretty far before they even reach the net!
Legos are truly the greatest toy you can get for the little geek in your life. My younger cousins are all clamouring for the new Harry Potter set. The new sets just keep them interested, I can't imagine how anyone would find them to be the "death of imagination".
Satalite is just nasty. I had one for 5 months while I was playing nature-boy. You're better off with 30 modems, shotgunning them so you have 15 fast connections with drastically reduced ping times. I dunno how big a school this is... but if we assume you just need 15 the price for service is about $7(if you're smart about your ISP)x30 = $210 a month. Plus the cost of shotgun modems.
You missed the point entirely. You don't get ahead by playing follow the leader.
One aspect of TransGaming's model is based on the Street Performer Protocol. We are licensing some of our 3D code under the Aladdin Free Public License, which restricts certain forms of commercial redistribution. Users may freely download and use the software, but will be encouraged to subscribe to our subscription service. We will not release that code under a less restrictive license (such as the Wine license) unless and until we have a paying subscriber base of at least 20,000 users. This means that our work will not be fully incorporated into the main Wine source base before that point. Further development of our work will also be predicated on that subscriber base being sustained. This gives our customers a direct incentive to stick with us - if our subscription revenue dries out, so will our release of new code.
.. it is not. This is more like Public Broadcasting's subscription model... the content is freely available to all, but some people NEED to support it or there will not be any new content... period. I hope this works. I'm a big fan of the PBS model.
That's an interesting approach, "We've got you by the balls, so keep paying". While some people will be quick to point out "This is just a friendlier version of MicroSoft's subscription model"
hmmm considering the nature of slashdot, I thought it would be best to disclaim that the whole post needs to be read before it can be understood as it was intended.
I just know I'm going to get modded down for troll, but please READ this post ALL the way through before you do so. I am not a Win32 zealot, I love Linux and want only the best for it.
Anyway, this should be considered a good thing, as linux needs as much support as it can get when it comes to multimedia applications, and especially ones from big companies
There is already a Shoutcast for linux, why would you need client sortware on a server OS? Why do you want people to waste time on this, when developers could better be spending their time competeing with Unix in the enterprise market. That's esentially what this is... a waste of time and resources. The most precious resource the Linux community has is it's developers, shouldn't you be encouraging them to play to their strengths instead of "run multimedia apps and have office so Linux can be just like Windows". I don't want Linux to be just like Windows. If I want Windows I have windows. If I want an affordable server solution I have Linux... and that, in all honesty, is a solution that needs some more solving.
Please stop crying for Linux to be a desktop OS. Perhaps it will evolve into one after it has swallowed the server market, but now is not the time to spend valuable resources on it.
I moved out to maine from San Jose, Ca about 1 year ago to the day. I first moved up into Farmington, a very small town. I loved it, it was like camping everyday. There was nothing but forest for as far as I could see from my window. But the only available internet option was satalite... so I was forced to move back to the city. I would really like a nice solution in the forest someday, so that I can return.
"For some reason Slashdot gets a lot of submissions of wacko energy concepts"
Well maybe if you stopped posting them, these so-called "wacko" concepts wouldn't be submitted. Though I personally disagree, I would call these "desperate attempts at alternative energy"... and while it becomes tiresome to hear we should have 500mpg engines in 5 years, every year, for the last 5 years... as long as this research continues they may just live up to their promise someday.
(replace AT&T with Adelphia if they happen to be the one gobbling up your local cable provider)
We are AT&T, we will add your technological destictiveness to our own, while purchasing your pipes and customer base at pennys of the initial cost. Lower your shields, resistance is futile.
If there is any cable providers besides AT&T, AOL, and Adelphia in 2 years I'll be amazed.
It might pick up with the economy... but I doubt it because of the amount needed to invest in new COs. It's a really risky business to be investing in anything that expensive. That was on of Vitt's downfalls... they had a LOT of VC money to blow, and they spent nearly all of it on fascilities, including COs in places noone else would go near and a huge multi-million dollar state-of-the-art Co-Lo fascility. I personally got to tour this fascility 2 months before Vitts filed Chapter 11, it was quite impressive.
Most ADSL providers block port 25 and almost all ADSL is capped at about what Road-Runner is capping. If you wish to run a server I would recomend an SDSL product... which can be very expensive, but cheaper than a T1 and faster. I am not aware of any port blocking by any SDSL provider.
Very fascinating read, with lots of graphs that really strike the message home. But what is the point? Anyone with an internet connection will have no doubt experienced the instability.
I've personally had a particularly poor router lossing my packets for the last week, and have been trace routing it from all over the country to triangulate the problem. Doing a tracert from Maine, California and Texas seems to provide a reasonable picture of what's going on with a specific router by triangulating in on the offending router... so I'm a bit unclear on why this study was called for, unless it's just to point fingers at microsoft...
I have posted here many times stating something to the effect of: "The reason these guys are going down is the same reason Pets.com went down, you just can't give away $400-500 modems and expect to make a profit. I'm working with a small New England DSL provider, and we make customers pay for their modems, because they understand this and know we won't be shutting them down unexpectedly like Covad, Vitts, North Point, etc..."
I was wrong, we went under too. I suspect the DSL industry will rebound but it will only rebound as a few companies that bought out the first generation of DSL providers for penies of what it cost to creat the infrastructure and customer base.
I see the same thing happening with the cable modem industry, as Adelphia is gobbling up cable providers that fall too far into the red. Practically overnight, an unheard of little Cable Company in New York has sprung up with customers and pipes coast to coast at a fraction of what it cost to build.
This is a good and a bad thing... it's good for present DSL customers with local COs because someone else will likely move in and keep their connection on... but don't expect these guys to invest in more COs to expand their reach to more customers. If you don't have a local CO now, you won't for the forseeable future.
Nice try troll, almost got me to bite :)
I agree, it should be "All but 2 Rage Against the Machine songs" ... as all but 2 are anti-america, and decidedly not appropriate for time of war.
At the same time we've got:
The Beatles "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" (LSD song)
Pink Floyd "Mother" (a song about an overbearing mother)
Godsmack "Bad Religion" (christian hypocrisy in america)
Filter "Hey Man, Nice Shot" (politician commiting suicide due to a scandal he had nothing to do with, if anything this should become Condit's theme song)
Tramps "Disco Inferno" (WTF!? Disco Lives!)
Taking a look at that, I have no idea what criteria they're using for this list.
Don't get me wrong though, I think this black listing is really counter productive. Corporate Blacklisting goes WAY beyond censorship, as far as I'm concerned.
Oh right... My bad.
Well I'm unfortunatly unable to boycott adobe, as are all other professionals in this field, so grin and bare it for those of you interested!
PS: I did however make it a point to speak with my congressman directly about the DMCA. So I hope I've at least done my part, despite providing the enemy with more funds.
I'm not too impressed with anything I've seen from VRML, but Adobe's Atmoshpere was a bit of an eye opener. Check it out yourself at Adobe's Site ... free to play with while it's in beta. I haven't personally developed for this yet, but I hear it's quite intuitive. As a bonus, you have site-specific chat. Now if they will just add site-specific-VoIP I will start taking a more active interest, but for now I think all of this 3d Browser stuff is a bit academic as noone has found any particualarly good use for this stuff yet (at least nothing that the mainstream surfer is going to clamour for).
And really, this would be possible without me losing the command line capability, right?
I don't see why not, Windows 2000 has one...
I spent 4 months in the San Jose Juvi. I was not a total geek, but I sure as hell was not a gang-banger... which is exactly what everyone else was in there. I only got into one fight, but fights are the least of your worries. Try to imagine what it's like to be surrounded by murderers and rapists all day long. I will assume that he is relatively bright, and will have to deal with being in a confined space with people who are not only ignorant and poorly educated, but also very intolerant of educated-types.
4 months was way too long for me, 8 months would be an eternity. Granted... he will likely not have to deal with the sort of racism I faced (I was 1 of 4 white people, our of 600) in San Jose, but he is definetly not getting off easy.
(assuming this motivated by Islamic Terrorists)
This is the first time America has suffered tremendous casualities of the Holy War ongoing in the middle east. I hope that when the dust settles america realizes that the people who commited this horenous act... are in fact people too. Despite how painful it might be to acknowledge this, they are people just like you and me.
Most people like you and me are not motivated sufficiently to give up their life for a cause. In fact, in Islamic traditions, suicide means a certain fate in hell. Yet today we have been visited with a horror that could only be brought by suicidical means.
How could people like you and me veto their natural basic instict for survival? God. The devout belief in God provides an "out". You don't need to worry about your survival if your mind is operating on the assumption that there is something greater than life.
I would hope that Americans can set aside their own personal beliefs and unite in an attempt to ban practicing religion. It is religion that killed the Aztecs. It is religion that brought us the inquisition. It is religion that has brought us the non-stop terror in the middle east. 2 very talented programmers (and slashdot readers) I know were drafted into the Isreal Armed Forces last year. 4 Months ago one of them was killed. I lost a friend because of a "Belief". How many friends and family did you lose today because of a "Belief"?
The idea of no retalitation and just allowing for peace is definetly the utopian solution.
Unfortuantly the people that conduct themselves in this manner live in a distopia, often impoverished and spiteful.
You cannot reason with people on civilized and rationalized terms, when they themselves are foriegn to these concepts.
They understand the language of violence, and under these terms have set the pace. If we do not respond in kind we risk further attacks.
It is a vicious cycle, and I truly wish this was not the case, but this is the reality. Violence will rule this world for the remainder of your lifetime... get used to it.
If you gain an advantage from something you did not work for, could it be said that you have gained an unfair advantage?
I don't play these online roleplaying games, but let me give you a real-life example...
Let us say I am beating the snot out of Mike Tyson (hey this is my example, I can beat up Mike Tyson in my exmples) and I'm up by several points. Don King comes over to my corner, hands me some cash and I take a enough hits to give Mike some more points.
Money for a score, where as this Ebaying is money for an item in a game without scores. Either way you're taking a dive.