No, more like the people who read a newspaper. In 1903, Pres. Teddy had a telegraphed conversation with the King of England. From Massachusetts. It was a big deal in the papers.
How many people 100 years ago would have thought it possible that the people of the future would have magic electric devices that allowed them to communicate through the air and all the way across the world?
The educated ones, certainly. Since Marconi made a transatlantic telegraph transmission in 1902. 106 years ago.
Nope. You're focusing on a single number that is not representative of an economy and declaring one twice a successful as another. That's asinine.
As for life expectancy, that's average. We allow the weak (read: poor) to die earlier, and those better equipped to provide for themselves live longer. As a member of the better equipped, I'm inclined to prefer here, thanks. Even if I wasn't, I'm morally opposed to theft and redistribution by the gov't.
Privacy rights? I don't care. No, seriously, I don't give a shit. I'd rather be richer and live longer, and I am and I do.
That's because we're not so low as to be equals. You're really suggesting we should work at being equals with people like the French? People who who cook up half brained ideas like the ICC? Child molesters at the UN? Thanks, no. We're better than that.
Yessss! Rewrite the problem people! That's exactly the power I want a justice system to have. We can continue pretending we're not punishing people, and instead we're educating them! Woohoo we'll be soo modern and liberal!
Do something unsocial like call somebody gay or vote against welfare and we can solve our problem simply by rewriting them! Who needs a bill of rights when everybody says the same things!
In an ideal world, I would have a 'laptop' about the size of the 770 that I could slot into a monitor when I was at my desk.
No, ideally you'd have storage (hd and/or flash) that you would carry around and plug into "thin" systems installed at work, at home, at the coffee shop, etc. For portability you'd have a LCD/CPU/BigBattery to plug in to.
This is possible now, it's just that it requires individual effort on the part of the user and isn't cross-compatible everywhere.
And that's exactly the problem I have with this, issues of safety/quality aside.
No, NOT safty/quality aside. That's the only basis the gov't has to regulate, and even quality is stretching it a bit.
I just can't think of any good reason why you wouldn't label it (just as organic products are labelled as such)
Organic products are labeled as such because there is a market for such products that allow producers to charge extra for them. It is not mandatory for producers to mark products as organic or not organic (a nonsensical term). In other words, your example of organic marking is EXACTLY HOW cloned marking will work.
And they're going to continue to get it for the forseeable future. Cloned animals are 10x-20x as expensive, you won't be seeing them on a grill anytime soon.
What you will see is offspring of clones, and milk products from clones. You'll be seeing both without mandatory markings.
Would be accept non-kosher meat being sold as kosher?
Interesting you would bring that up, because the arguments against cloned animal products are exactly as logical, thought out, and self-consistent as kosher meat. In other words: Dogma and mythology .
The -really- amusing thing is that you as alike as the question of cloned meat and kosher meat is, you're complaining that they're being treated the same. Nobody requires either non-kosher or kosher meat to be marketed as such. Kosher meat is available, and marked as such, because there is a market for it, and producers are able to charge extra for it.
The FDA relies on science, not the variety of cultural and social issues people like to make up in order to claim that the gov't isn't watching out for them.
Frequently its the same people who declare that the gov't should get "it's nose out of my business" when regulating things like recreational drugs. Time to toke up and whine about the cloned cattle!
Whenever a vegetarian bloviates on about how they never eat meat and only eat lettuce, I wonder how they will taste when society collapses and the rest of us to turn them as our protein source.
Could be that with all this automation we're still checking our Blackberries at 3 AM and rebooting servers. We're always on call (like doctors) but we don't paid like them.
I see this complaint a lot, and just uttering it shows how uneducated in economics you are. Your time doesn't cost the same as a doctors because the service you provide is not as valuable as a doctors. Period, end of story. You will never be paid the same as a doctor because if your wage increases, the doctors will demand higher pay.
Really? You can eat gold? What intrinsic value does gold have? Oh right, it's rare, and somewhat "pretty" although not really all that rare and pretty is such a personal definition. Lots of things are rare.
Let's instead move to the Uranium-235 standard, or better yet, the joule.
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There is also "doesn't matter"
No, more like the people who read a newspaper. In 1903, Pres. Teddy had a telegraphed conversation with the King of England. From Massachusetts. It was a big deal in the papers.
How many people 100 years ago would have thought it possible that the people of the future would have magic electric devices that allowed them to communicate through the air and all the way across the world?
The educated ones, certainly. Since Marconi made a transatlantic telegraph transmission in 1902. 106 years ago.
I may underestimate the power of rich people wanting more money
I, however, will never underestimate the ability of People With A Cause to see conspiracies.
Yet at the same time, insurance companies are pressing for cures instead of "maintenance" regimes.
So you're a conspiracy nut.
Yes, as standard legally for longer than you've been alive.
So what you're saying is that creators do not have the very basic property right of right of sale.
Rent Seeking! Everybody else does it!
Correct, the MEDIAN life expectancy for other first world nations is slightly higher. No argument.
I couldn't care less. I am not median.
Nope. You're focusing on a single number that is not representative of an economy and declaring one twice a successful as another. That's asinine.
As for life expectancy, that's average. We allow the weak (read: poor) to die earlier, and those better equipped to provide for themselves live longer. As a member of the better equipped, I'm inclined to prefer here, thanks. Even if I wasn't, I'm morally opposed to theft and redistribution by the gov't.
Privacy rights? I don't care. No, seriously, I don't give a shit. I'd rather be richer and live longer, and I am and I do.
That's because we're not so low as to be equals. You're really suggesting we should work at being equals with people like the French? People who who cook up half brained ideas like the ICC? Child molesters at the UN? Thanks, no. We're better than that.
He was asking why with an idiot Republican president in charge aren't the smart people leaving the US. Those smart people would be the Liberals.
All the smart Liberals have left. There weren't many, so nobody noticed.
Yessss! Rewrite the problem people! That's exactly the power I want a justice system to have. We can continue pretending we're not punishing people, and instead we're educating them! Woohoo we'll be soo modern and liberal!
Do something unsocial like call somebody gay or vote against welfare and we can solve our problem simply by rewriting them! Who needs a bill of rights when everybody says the same things!
Ok, so you won't trust an input device or CPU by themselves, but tack on a networked file source and you're all full of trust!
Make up your mind to be crazy paranoid, or open to ubiquitous access to your data. Can't have both.
In an ideal world, I would have a 'laptop' about the size of the 770 that I could slot into a monitor when I was at my desk.
No, ideally you'd have storage (hd and/or flash) that you would carry around and plug into "thin" systems installed at work, at home, at the coffee shop, etc. For portability you'd have a LCD/CPU/BigBattery to plug in to.
This is possible now, it's just that it requires individual effort on the part of the user and isn't cross-compatible everywhere.
And that's exactly the problem I have with this, issues of safety/quality aside.
No, NOT safty/quality aside. That's the only basis the gov't has to regulate, and even quality is stretching it a bit.
I just can't think of any good reason why you wouldn't label it (just as organic products are labelled as such)
Organic products are labeled as such because there is a market for such products that allow producers to charge extra for them. It is not mandatory for producers to mark products as organic or not organic (a nonsensical term). In other words, your example of organic marking is EXACTLY HOW cloned marking will work.
Customers are expecting non-cloned meat
And they're going to continue to get it for the forseeable future. Cloned animals are 10x-20x as expensive, you won't be seeing them on a grill anytime soon.
What you will see is offspring of clones, and milk products from clones. You'll be seeing both without mandatory markings.
Would be accept non-kosher meat being sold as kosher?
Interesting you would bring that up, because the arguments against cloned animal products are exactly as logical, thought out, and self-consistent as kosher meat. In other words: Dogma and mythology .
The -really- amusing thing is that you as alike as the question of cloned meat and kosher meat is, you're complaining that they're being treated the same. Nobody requires either non-kosher or kosher meat to be marketed as such. Kosher meat is available, and marked as such, because there is a market for it, and producers are able to charge extra for it.
Yes, it is nice, as they're following the law.
The FDA relies on science, not the variety of cultural and social issues people like to make up in order to claim that the gov't isn't watching out for them.
Frequently its the same people who declare that the gov't should get "it's nose out of my business" when regulating things like recreational drugs. Time to toke up and whine about the cloned cattle!
Whenever a vegetarian bloviates on about how they never eat meat and only eat lettuce, I wonder how they will taste when society collapses and the rest of us to turn them as our protein source.
Most, nearly all, of the problems with re-freezing come due to the defrost cycles of automatic cycle residential freezers.
Every animal I eat is a vegetarian.
Could be that with all this automation we're still checking our Blackberries at 3 AM and rebooting servers. We're always on call (like doctors) but we don't paid like them.
I see this complaint a lot, and just uttering it shows how uneducated in economics you are. Your time doesn't cost the same as a doctors because the service you provide is not as valuable as a doctors. Period, end of story. You will never be paid the same as a doctor because if your wage increases, the doctors will demand higher pay.
Really? You can eat gold? What intrinsic value does gold have? Oh right, it's rare, and somewhat "pretty" although not really all that rare and pretty is such a personal definition. Lots of things are rare.
Let's instead move to the Uranium-235 standard, or better yet, the joule.
First of all, stupidity doesn't mean you deserve what you get.
Yes it does. It's called life, and we as a society should stop putting so much futile effort into working against it.
BART tickets in SF are magnetic, not barcodes, but I've been expecting fakes Any Day Now.