Same here, still 56k to the house, although our telco is threatening to bring it here "soon", which has been "soon" since January, but that is better than "no hope in hell" which is what the installers were saying a couple of years back while laughing.
Nice email to the CEO wondering why I wasn't going to be getting it even though I was within a digital local loop enabling 56k service helped a bit. Latest reports was sometime in August, still waiting though, and certainly not holding my breath either:)
The problem is the "knowingly" part, recently a server of mine was blacklisted by SPEWS thanks to them claiming a client of mine who was running a perfectly legitimate non-spamming hosting reseller business happened to work with spammers in another area of his life.
No warning or nothing was given to me, I was suddenly told by my NOC that I had 24 hours to delete a client of over 2 years whom had never caused us an issue nor had used our (or the NOCs) servers for spamming.
So, am I expected to know what my clients do outside of the services I provide? Is that not an invasion of privacy? I certainly don't expect my satellite provider to know what I do elsewhere or if I rent DVDs instead of using their PPV, etc.
Sure, and a pedo could go get a kiddy porn mag shipped to your home address too, doesn't happen much.
As for... your name is now 'tainted by scandal.'
Tainted with who? Like I could give a damn what others think, I don't live life according to any "social status". My friends and family know me and know I am not a pedo of any sort.
If someone DID try then I would be the one calling the cops to help them find the local pervert, the transparent squid proxy keeps pretty detailed logs:)
I'm with you on this one, I could care less who uses my WLAN, in the 3 years it has been active I can safely say nobody has used it actually, my neighbour does use it but heck I gave him the wireless NIC to connect so we can share files and do some gaming.
We live in a semi-remote area so no real worries about any strange vehicles sitting around on the street, we'd notice them.
The latest of course is the old "think about the children" routine, yeah like the streets are just crawling with pedophiles looking for open APs to surf porn, what a crock.
Any private fileshares are locked up, my POP3/IMAP/SMTP/FTP traffic is tunneled via SSH anyway.
All network traffic is sent via a Linux box acting as a transparent squid proxy, nntp is blocked entirely since we're on 56k at the gate right now until DSL finally shows up (any day they say!).
My ISP has a WAP at his residence too, the shop is attached, no encryption there either, a little scarier I think since he doesn't have anything protecting the gates, but it is his call.
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Canadians can download WeatherEye from www.theweathernetwork.com, it seems to be spyware free.
I was back online in 15 minutes. Basically I explained to them the situation. My client had basically used an email address from the domain I was hosting to register some domain that ended up tied to spam or something, not exactly sure how it all came to pass just suddenly we're blacklisted for nothing more than association.
To me, I have no real right to know what my clients do outside my services, as long as they don't use my services for anything not allowed in my TOS. So, to suddenly get told one day that some client I have had for 2 years is some huge spammer, with no evidence delivered mind you except the SPEWS notice, I find this rather unfair that I must kick a good paying client whom I have actually known well for the 2 years he was with me.
He became a client via another good client of mine, again someone who runs a legitimate online store and has never caused any problems.
I hate spam as much as the next guy, my servers are setup with SpamAssassin and RBL checks are done to stop trojan relays, etc.
My main beef with the NOC is this was a server going on 3 years of service, no previous problems have been reported about any of the domains that have been there in that time. When they unplugged it was wrong because a simple whois lookup would have shown the problem domain had changed nameservers and it was their caches that were waiting to catch up.
None of the above actually, the guy has been a reseller for a couple years and this was a legit hosting deal, none of the sites hosted have ever been spam advertised.
Kinda whacky, but all comes down to he used an email address from the domain as a registration contact for some site that was tied to spam activities.
I agree, Spamhaus is a great RBL group who take measures to not falsely list anyone or cause too much collateral damage.
SPEWS on the other hand, those guys are pricks, one of my servers was recently listed because I happened to have a client who apparently works some with spammers, he has been a client for 2 years with me and has caused no issues, suddenly I find my NOC unplugging me because of this even though no spam originated from my servers.
Sorry, but I cannot be expected to do detective work and figure out what my clients are doing elsewhere outside of my services. SPEWS can suck my balls.
Then again, maybe WE are the colonizing species but have lost the knowledge that brought us here. Maybe DNA itself is the seed that was spread by the galaxy seeders, etc.
Basically the evidence may be all around us and we're just too blind to see it.
So true, whenever I hear some twit pipe up about human space exploration being crazy I ask them what plans they have to prolong the existence of our species when the fact is the planet we call home is NOT immortal and will at some point get to the stage of being unable to support us.
To me I see two possibilities when it comes to interstellar travel, it is either possible and in which case the UFO reports are probably valid in some cases or it is not possible and it means no intelligent species has/can survive long enough to get off their home planet or out of their home system. If the latter is valid then all of this is pretty much for nothing and life is meaningless entirely.
Oh they were frightening as a kid that's for sure, I remember refusing to enter the Blackpool Dr. Who exhibit because them freaking things would zap me.
Now that I've grown up though, geesus, what was I thinking, them things are big, bulky and have pretty poor movement, and toilet plungers are hardly deadly weapons anymore:-)
Umm, it is quite easy to get the blocked ports unblocked with Telus.. sign up for a business account and you'll get that plus 2 static IP addresses.
I haven't looked at their TOS yet but I'm pretty sure it will mention residential accounts are meant for incoming data mostly and that public servers are a no-no.
As admin for similar ISP situations I can vouch that blocking worm and SMTP ports on residential accounts works wonders, and for most clients they don't even know the difference.
One thing I dislike about how Telus is doing this however, they will deny they are doing it and pass blame onto the other end (hosting providers for example).
the gov't is so hopelessly in the pharmaceutical companies pockets on this and everything else, I have little hope
I have to agree with this assumption. It is ugly out there, I watch some US TV and man, what is with the population there? I mean just about every single commercial break these days has at least one pitch for some new wonderful pill that apparently you need although you're not entirely sure what it treats but best you run to your local doctor to get some anyway.
What a crock. This in a country who has deemed a naturally growing plant (marijuana) as some sort of evil thing, but do feel free to pop all these "pep" pills and chew on Viagra all you want.
Whatever happened to the benefit of society as a reward for finding a new cure to something? Maybe it's time to bring all this research back to a public research system where scientists will get paid a good living wage while they do the research and maybe some bonuses given when they discover something. The current method of doing things for profit is wrong as almost all these companies are looking not for cures but for treatments they can continue to sell people over and over, a cure they only get to sell once.
Basically, you need to remove greed from this type of research entirely.
Is it reasonable to expect that your average home user will act as responsibly as a company's system administrator at keeping their systems patched?
If they keep getting fined and/or booted by ISPs then yes it is reasonable to expect it. After all, our public highways are safer because we expect people to learn to use vehicles and to also properly maintain them mechanically. If you drive around with no brakes and cause and accident you will be held accountable.
What would you prefer? When you have idiots getting infected by viruses by actually entering a password to the encrypted zip attachment it means said user sorely needs some education about proper usage of the device in front of them. Since all the TV/Radio/Newspaper stories telling these same idiots not to open unannounced attachments don't seem to work then hitting them in the pocket book or removing them from the information highway entirely might be a better education method.
Really, the users are only stupid if you keep on letting them do the same old things without educating them, for those extra stupid you need more extreme training methods.
Ok you two, you've now figured out the truth and will have to be taken out.:-)
I've pretty much concluded the same thing, life is actually pointless in that it is only a temporary thing anyway. As it sits we could be wiped out of existence tomorrow in many ways, at which point everything we've ever been is gone and was entirely meaningless.
So, do what you enjoy doing, it will all be over quicker than you'd like anyway more than likely, I don't imagine too many folks are ready for death once it comes, although I expect they don't realize that after they are gone either.
You only get one ride, enjoy it while you can because it's gonna be dark a long time afterwards. Life is basically a vacation from death some author once said.
why should we continue to suffer the negative aspects of it ("sex is bad, violence is good").?
Mostly because you have a rather huge military industrial complex setup that would rather remain in existence. Remember, this group doesn't get voted into/out of office every 4 years either.
I equate career military folks to the military class featured within the Minbari species on Babylon 5, a very tough lot to get rid of as they live for little else than inventing new ways of killing and blowing things up.
Find another ISP who doesn't just assign you a static out of their dynamic ranges, I run a private RBL for a few ISPs in my area and I have a few of the big cablecos sending me their static IP ranges which are seperate from the dynamic ranges they sent and had no problem with us blocking them.
The static ranges they send to us weekly are added to the whitelist if required but since they aren't in the dynamic ranges we can generally leave those out.
Our reasons for requesting the dynamic ranges from cableco was due to constant viruses and spam coming from the same addresses for days/weeks on end, we got tired of wasting resources on them. Problem solved by listing the dynamic ranges which can't run servers anyway according to the TOS.
Hehe, I didn't mean I believed intelligent dinos existed. I tend to think that with this really old universe we seem to exist in there's plenty of room for intelligent dinos somewhere though:-)
All I know is this life thing is freaky sometimes.
I tend to agree with you on this, there sure are some shady areas of our past we just can't explain and what scares me is they are so recent geologically and yet evidence is so hard to find.
Look at our ancient cities, we're finding them but they're like 6,000 years old or so, well considering the planet is 4.5billion years old there is surely a lot of stuff we just haven't discovered or has been completely eradicated by the natural recycling forces that happen on our planet.
We can't keep our own stories straight either, biblical texts are really just stories for the most part but they've been strewn out as "the word of God" and millions of little lemmings follow the texts to the word which has them living a dillusional existence at best.
Look at Elvis, he's been officially dead for 25 years or so but we already have all kinds of fables running around about him, including him alive still (resurrection!) and there are several versions of his infamous chicken recipe. And this from a society with advanced technology and writing skills.
One thing I've been thinking about recently is what if there was an intelligent dinosaur? If said intelligent dino only built structures from wood I highly doubt any evidence would exist 65million years after they died out.
Today we have more metal products around that will survive longer, but even then it is estimated that 1billion years after we're gone there will be no evidence left on the planet that we existed in the first place.
I tried a resident scanner for a while (McAfee), but that version kept nuking entire inboxes in OE, I lost over a year worth of mail thanks to that POS scanner.
Considering I have never had a virus infection caused data loss I was a tad bit peeved to have the freaking solution to viruses delete the data instead.
Like I said, no virus infections here and no resident scanner running, and this from a guy who has been using online services since 1988 or so.
So just what has convinced you that you need that full time resident scanner running? Do you visit unsafe websites all day or something? I've seen a few people now who swear up and down that I need a AV scanner or my computer will explode, but after years of the same usage patterns I've never been infected.
As for you sex analogy, yes I do believe some common sense helps there too, then again I'm married and don't need condoms anyway:)
It's quite easy to know it is uninfected, as others have pointed out there are suites that can be run online plus having a suite installed but not running is another option.
But, I know what is running on the machine as well, I know it is stable and I know there isn't some background task eating up the resources, I reboot her machine for her maybe once a month and it sits running 24/7.
Now to be clear, her computer sits on a NAT network so it is not publically accessable, but hey, when I sell someone a computer these days I sell them a cable/dsl router to go with it if they want to be on broadband, so this type of protection is step one and very easy/cheap to implement.
Next her email is scanned for viruses, so it is a little tougher to get any viruses to her that way. She also has the preview pane off and keeps OE up to date with Windows update.
But, back to the original post here, if I had those protections in place at my office (and I would) I would then be quite hard on any employee who ends up infected by something anyway. I refuse to run an always active AV scanner on my computers because they cause too many headaches and use up too much resources I'd much rather let the intended apps have.
Contrary to popular belief you do no need full time AV suites running on all your PCs to keep virus free, it takes some common sense, keeping your system up to date, etc. I expect anyone who uses a computer as a main part of their employment to have the common sense required to not get infected with viruses.
Sorry guys, but the users DO need to take some responsibility and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to teach them some either, my in-laws were infected once, only once:)
I don't find it all that harsh really, if people are expected to work with a computer every day then people should be expected to be able to do so virus free. If the person is so freaking stupid to get infected in the first place then termination is likely a good way to show the rest of the staff that knowing how to properly use a computer will keep them their jobs.
Staying virus free isn't tough, even without a virus scanner on the system it is easy, but first you must have some common sense when it comes to using the system. (proper patching, no preview pane in OE, don't click unknown attachments, etc.)
Oh, and my wife is proof positive it isn't tough to NOT get infected.. 3 years on her own Win98 box and zero infections with no anti-virus suite running on the machine at all.
You misunderstood me, I am talking about bank transfers which these days should be almost purely electronic in nature and should happen almost instantly, or at most within 24 hours.
I do understand the need to be careful with cheque deposits, but the fact is I can run down to my nearest ATM, insert an empty envelope claiming to be a deposit of $1000 and withdraw it immediately.
If I have immediate clearance on cheques up to $1000 then why does clearance of funds going between reputable banks take 5-7 days? Especially when we're talking about accounts I've had for a number of years already with no bounced cheques at all.
One thing I've never understood about bank computers, why is it they don't do transactions outside banking hours when it involves putting money INTO your account?
Sure I can make a deposit at an ATM and have it instantly accessable, but what I am talking about is between bank transfers and such, for some reason these seem to take place only on weekdays.
Is there really some peon sitting in front of a terminal approving every transaction?
What peeves me is when I have something being transferred from say my merchant account, it can take 5 business days to get to my account, I mean these are computers we're talking about here and that type of delay really makes no sense when we live in a world where instant transactions are available.
I've seen stuff start transfer on a Wednesday and take until the following Tuesday to show in the account, that is just sad.
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Same here, still 56k to the house, although our telco is threatening to bring it here "soon", which has been "soon" since January, but that is better than "no hope in hell" which is what the installers were saying a couple of years back while laughing.
:)
Nice email to the CEO wondering why I wasn't going to be getting it even though I was within a digital local loop enabling 56k service helped a bit. Latest reports was sometime in August, still waiting though, and certainly not holding my breath either
The problem is the "knowingly" part, recently a server of mine was blacklisted by SPEWS thanks to them claiming a client of mine who was running a perfectly legitimate non-spamming hosting reseller business happened to work with spammers in another area of his life.
No warning or nothing was given to me, I was suddenly told by my NOC that I had 24 hours to delete a client of over 2 years whom had never caused us an issue nor had used our (or the NOCs) servers for spamming.
So, am I expected to know what my clients do outside of the services I provide? Is that not an invasion of privacy? I certainly don't expect my satellite provider to know what I do elsewhere or if I rent DVDs instead of using their PPV, etc.
Sure, and a pedo could go get a kiddy porn mag shipped to your home address too, doesn't happen much.
... your name is now 'tainted by scandal.'
:)
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Tainted with who? Like I could give a damn what others think, I don't live life according to any "social status". My friends and family know me and know I am not a pedo of any sort.
If someone DID try then I would be the one calling the cops to help them find the local pervert, the transparent squid proxy keeps pretty detailed logs
I'm with you on this one, I could care less who uses my WLAN, in the 3 years it has been active I can safely say nobody has used it actually, my neighbour does use it but heck I gave him the wireless NIC to connect so we can share files and do some gaming.
We live in a semi-remote area so no real worries about any strange vehicles sitting around on the street, we'd notice them.
The latest of course is the old "think about the children" routine, yeah like the streets are just crawling with pedophiles looking for open APs to surf porn, what a crock.
Any private fileshares are locked up, my POP3/IMAP/SMTP/FTP traffic is tunneled via SSH anyway.
All network traffic is sent via a Linux box acting as a transparent squid proxy, nntp is blocked entirely since we're on 56k at the gate right now until DSL finally shows up (any day they say!).
My ISP has a WAP at his residence too, the shop is attached, no encryption there either, a little scarier I think since he doesn't have anything protecting the gates, but it is his call.
Canadians can download WeatherEye from www.theweathernetwork.com, it seems to be spyware free.
It also features US locations apparently.
I was back online in 15 minutes. Basically I explained to them the situation. My client had basically used an email address from the domain I was hosting to register some domain that ended up tied to spam or something, not exactly sure how it all came to pass just suddenly we're blacklisted for nothing more than association.
To me, I have no real right to know what my clients do outside my services, as long as they don't use my services for anything not allowed in my TOS. So, to suddenly get told one day that some client I have had for 2 years is some huge spammer, with no evidence delivered mind you except the SPEWS notice, I find this rather unfair that I must kick a good paying client whom I have actually known well for the 2 years he was with me.
He became a client via another good client of mine, again someone who runs a legitimate online store and has never caused any problems.
I hate spam as much as the next guy, my servers are setup with SpamAssassin and RBL checks are done to stop trojan relays, etc.
My main beef with the NOC is this was a server going on 3 years of service, no previous problems have been reported about any of the domains that have been there in that time. When they unplugged it was wrong because a simple whois lookup would have shown the problem domain had changed nameservers and it was their caches that were waiting to catch up.
None of the above actually, the guy has been a reseller for a couple years and this was a legit hosting deal, none of the sites hosted have ever been spam advertised.
Kinda whacky, but all comes down to he used an email address from the domain as a registration contact for some site that was tied to spam activities.
I agree, Spamhaus is a great RBL group who take measures to not falsely list anyone or cause too much collateral damage.
SPEWS on the other hand, those guys are pricks, one of my servers was recently listed because I happened to have a client who apparently works some with spammers, he has been a client for 2 years with me and has caused no issues, suddenly I find my NOC unplugging me because of this even though no spam originated from my servers.
Sorry, but I cannot be expected to do detective work and figure out what my clients are doing elsewhere outside of my services. SPEWS can suck my balls.
Then again, maybe WE are the colonizing species but have lost the knowledge that brought us here. Maybe DNA itself is the seed that was spread by the galaxy seeders, etc.
Basically the evidence may be all around us and we're just too blind to see it.
So true, whenever I hear some twit pipe up about human space exploration being crazy I ask them what plans they have to prolong the existence of our species when the fact is the planet we call home is NOT immortal and will at some point get to the stage of being unable to support us.
To me I see two possibilities when it comes to interstellar travel, it is either possible and in which case the UFO reports are probably valid in some cases or it is not possible and it means no intelligent species has/can survive long enough to get off their home planet or out of their home system. If the latter is valid then all of this is pretty much for nothing and life is meaningless entirely.
Oh they were frightening as a kid that's for sure, I remember refusing to enter the Blackpool Dr. Who exhibit because them freaking things would zap me.
:-)
Now that I've grown up though, geesus, what was I thinking, them things are big, bulky and have pretty poor movement, and toilet plungers are hardly deadly weapons anymore
Umm, it is quite easy to get the blocked ports unblocked with Telus .. sign up for a business account and you'll get that plus 2 static IP addresses.
I haven't looked at their TOS yet but I'm pretty sure it will mention residential accounts are meant for incoming data mostly and that public servers are a no-no.
As admin for similar ISP situations I can vouch that blocking worm and SMTP ports on residential accounts works wonders, and for most clients they don't even know the difference.
One thing I dislike about how Telus is doing this however, they will deny they are doing it and pass blame onto the other end (hosting providers for example).
the gov't is so hopelessly in the pharmaceutical companies pockets on this and everything else, I have little hope
I have to agree with this assumption. It is ugly out there, I watch some US TV and man, what is with the population there? I mean just about every single commercial break these days has at least one pitch for some new wonderful pill that apparently you need although you're not entirely sure what it treats but best you run to your local doctor to get some anyway.
What a crock. This in a country who has deemed a naturally growing plant (marijuana) as some sort of evil thing, but do feel free to pop all these "pep" pills and chew on Viagra all you want.
Whatever happened to the benefit of society as a reward for finding a new cure to something? Maybe it's time to bring all this research back to a public research system where scientists will get paid a good living wage while they do the research and maybe some bonuses given when they discover something. The current method of doing things for profit is wrong as almost all these companies are looking not for cures but for treatments they can continue to sell people over and over, a cure they only get to sell once.
Basically, you need to remove greed from this type of research entirely.
Is it reasonable to expect that your average home user will act as responsibly as a company's system administrator at keeping their systems patched?
If they keep getting fined and/or booted by ISPs then yes it is reasonable to expect it. After all, our public highways are safer because we expect people to learn to use vehicles and to also properly maintain them mechanically. If you drive around with no brakes and cause and accident you will be held accountable.
What would you prefer? When you have idiots getting infected by viruses by actually entering a password to the encrypted zip attachment it means said user sorely needs some education about proper usage of the device in front of them. Since all the TV/Radio/Newspaper stories telling these same idiots not to open unannounced attachments don't seem to work then hitting them in the pocket book or removing them from the information highway entirely might be a better education method.
Really, the users are only stupid if you keep on letting them do the same old things without educating them, for those extra stupid you need more extreme training methods.
There are patches for qmail that will fix this, the server will check for the user at the SMTP stage and refuse if user doesn't exist.
Ok you two, you've now figured out the truth and will have to be taken out. :-)
I've pretty much concluded the same thing, life is actually pointless in that it is only a temporary thing anyway. As it sits we could be wiped out of existence tomorrow in many ways, at which point everything we've ever been is gone and was entirely meaningless.
So, do what you enjoy doing, it will all be over quicker than you'd like anyway more than likely, I don't imagine too many folks are ready for death once it comes, although I expect they don't realize that after they are gone either.
You only get one ride, enjoy it while you can because it's gonna be dark a long time afterwards. Life is basically a vacation from death some author once said.
why should we continue to suffer the negative aspects of it ("sex is bad, violence is good").?
Mostly because you have a rather huge military industrial complex setup that would rather remain in existence. Remember, this group doesn't get voted into/out of office every 4 years either.
I equate career military folks to the military class featured within the Minbari species on Babylon 5, a very tough lot to get rid of as they live for little else than inventing new ways of killing and blowing things up.
Find another ISP who doesn't just assign you a static out of their dynamic ranges, I run a private RBL for a few ISPs in my area and I have a few of the big cablecos sending me their static IP ranges which are seperate from the dynamic ranges they sent and had no problem with us blocking them.
The static ranges they send to us weekly are added to the whitelist if required but since they aren't in the dynamic ranges we can generally leave those out.
Our reasons for requesting the dynamic ranges from cableco was due to constant viruses and spam coming from the same addresses for days/weeks on end, we got tired of wasting resources on them. Problem solved by listing the dynamic ranges which can't run servers anyway according to the TOS.
Hehe, I didn't mean I believed intelligent dinos existed. I tend to think that with this really old universe we seem to exist in there's plenty of room for intelligent dinos somewhere though :-)
All I know is this life thing is freaky sometimes.
I tend to agree with you on this, there sure are some shady areas of our past we just can't explain and what scares me is they are so recent geologically and yet evidence is so hard to find.
Look at our ancient cities, we're finding them but they're like 6,000 years old or so, well considering the planet is 4.5billion years old there is surely a lot of stuff we just haven't discovered or has been completely eradicated by the natural recycling forces that happen on our planet.
We can't keep our own stories straight either, biblical texts are really just stories for the most part but they've been strewn out as "the word of God" and millions of little lemmings follow the texts to the word which has them living a dillusional existence at best.
Look at Elvis, he's been officially dead for 25 years or so but we already have all kinds of fables running around about him, including him alive still (resurrection!) and there are several versions of his infamous chicken recipe. And this from a society with advanced technology and writing skills.
One thing I've been thinking about recently is what if there was an intelligent dinosaur? If said intelligent dino only built structures from wood I highly doubt any evidence would exist 65million years after they died out.
Today we have more metal products around that will survive longer, but even then it is estimated that 1billion years after we're gone there will be no evidence left on the planet that we existed in the first place.
I tried a resident scanner for a while (McAfee), but that version kept nuking entire inboxes in OE, I lost over a year worth of mail thanks to that POS scanner.
:)
Considering I have never had a virus infection caused data loss I was a tad bit peeved to have the freaking solution to viruses delete the data instead.
Like I said, no virus infections here and no resident scanner running, and this from a guy who has been using online services since 1988 or so.
So just what has convinced you that you need that full time resident scanner running? Do you visit unsafe websites all day or something? I've seen a few people now who swear up and down that I need a AV scanner or my computer will explode, but after years of the same usage patterns I've never been infected.
As for you sex analogy, yes I do believe some common sense helps there too, then again I'm married and don't need condoms anyway
It's quite easy to know it is uninfected, as others have pointed out there are suites that can be run online plus having a suite installed but not running is another option.
:)
But, I know what is running on the machine as well, I know it is stable and I know there isn't some background task eating up the resources, I reboot her machine for her maybe once a month and it sits running 24/7.
Now to be clear, her computer sits on a NAT network so it is not publically accessable, but hey, when I sell someone a computer these days I sell them a cable/dsl router to go with it if they want to be on broadband, so this type of protection is step one and very easy/cheap to implement.
Next her email is scanned for viruses, so it is a little tougher to get any viruses to her that way. She also has the preview pane off and keeps OE up to date with Windows update.
But, back to the original post here, if I had those protections in place at my office (and I would) I would then be quite hard on any employee who ends up infected by something anyway. I refuse to run an always active AV scanner on my computers because they cause too many headaches and use up too much resources I'd much rather let the intended apps have.
Contrary to popular belief you do no need full time AV suites running on all your PCs to keep virus free, it takes some common sense, keeping your system up to date, etc. I expect anyone who uses a computer as a main part of their employment to have the common sense required to not get infected with viruses.
Sorry guys, but the users DO need to take some responsibility and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to teach them some either, my in-laws were infected once, only once
I don't find it all that harsh really, if people are expected to work with a computer every day then people should be expected to be able to do so virus free. If the person is so freaking stupid to get infected in the first place then termination is likely a good way to show the rest of the staff that knowing how to properly use a computer will keep them their jobs.
.. 3 years on her own Win98 box and zero infections with no anti-virus suite running on the machine at all.
Staying virus free isn't tough, even without a virus scanner on the system it is easy, but first you must have some common sense when it comes to using the system. (proper patching, no preview pane in OE, don't click unknown attachments, etc.)
Oh, and my wife is proof positive it isn't tough to NOT get infected
You misunderstood me, I am talking about bank transfers which these days should be almost purely electronic in nature and should happen almost instantly, or at most within 24 hours.
I do understand the need to be careful with cheque deposits, but the fact is I can run down to my nearest ATM, insert an empty envelope claiming to be a deposit of $1000 and withdraw it immediately.
If I have immediate clearance on cheques up to $1000 then why does clearance of funds going between reputable banks take 5-7 days? Especially when we're talking about accounts I've had for a number of years already with no bounced cheques at all.
One thing I've never understood about bank computers, why is it they don't do transactions outside banking hours when it involves putting money INTO your account?
Sure I can make a deposit at an ATM and have it instantly accessable, but what I am talking about is between bank transfers and such, for some reason these seem to take place only on weekdays.
Is there really some peon sitting in front of a terminal approving every transaction?
What peeves me is when I have something being transferred from say my merchant account, it can take 5 business days to get to my account, I mean these are computers we're talking about here and that type of delay really makes no sense when we live in a world where instant transactions are available.
I've seen stuff start transfer on a Wednesday and take until the following Tuesday to show in the account, that is just sad.