Windows 7, Windows CE and Windows Mobile are majorly used but it's not always so obvious. When you take a flight all the televisions in airports run Windows.
Wow, you get the award for the most ignorant post I've ever seen from someone with such a low UID.
It's certainly not a "Unix".
You're right, It's not a Unix. It's a certified UNIX, since May 18, 2007.
The shiny GUI apps are very not-Unix and have a sort of Apple NIH syndrome
Uh, you know that Apple ships X11 for OS X, right? You know you can run OS X without the shiny GUI, or if you're really hard core, compile Darwin from source to do so, right? You know there's plenty of more UNIX-y stuff available from MacPorts and Fink, right?
Only by submitting their apps to Apple's store and giving up 30% of their receipts will developers get to take advantage of two new OS features.
The first is Apple's new 'Launchpad,' a tool for easily opening application
Where exactly does it say that no apps except those bought from the App Store will be available in the Launchpad? Doesn't say that on Apple's page, and the way it's written doesn't even imply it, unless you're out looking for something to post an anti-Apple screed.
the second is the ability to update apps to new versions with one click.
Mac OS 9 probably should have been called Mac OS 8.7, but for the fact that Jobs needed a quick way out of the contracts Apple had with the cloners, which were killing Apple.
The loophole that was found was that the cloners' licenses to distribute Mac OS were only valid for version 8.x. Thus they renamed Mac OS 8.7 to Mac OS 9 and refused to license the new major version to the cloners, putting them out of business.
~Philly
IMHO, it's worth the time and effort.
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If you're careful, hackintoshing is not that big of a hassle. I have two. The first one I built as an experiment about 2 years ago, just to see it for myself. It worked well enough that I put it into service as a fileserver in my home running OS X Server 10.5, replacing an ancient G4 2x450MHz machine. A couple weeks ago I upgraded it to OS X Server 10.6. It's rock stable and performs very well.
The second one is about a year old, and was built to replace two machines: an aging gaming PC, and an old Power Mac G5 that was my primary desktop. I chose my components carefully and got Mac Pro performance for about half the price, and the machine dual boots OS X 10.6 and Windows 7 Ultimate. I enjoy the occasional PC build, and for $1200 in savings, I didn't mind needing to get my hands a little dirty to get OS X running on it. Already having a functional Mac meant I could keep the hackintosh on my workbench for about a month, testing things risk-free, blowing it up and putting it back together, and generally figuring out every last little detail to make sure it would do what I wanted/needed and give me trouble-free operation.
It did take a little work to get them up and running, but once you reach that point you're pretty much set. I am pretty careful about updates since sometimes they do break things, but others usually figure out the fixes pretty quickly and post them on the sites where hackintoshers congregate. I also keep very good backups, via Time Machine as a matter of course, and by making bootable clones to secondary hard drives before I install anything major.
The first incarnation of Windows on a tablet dates to about 1989-1990. It was Windows 3.1 with some custom software on top.
It was designed for one purpose: to destroy Go Corporation, who had the unmitigated gall to try to produce a tablet with a purpose-built OS that was not Windows-compatible.
That's right, folks, tablet computing would be 20 years ahead of where it is now, except Microsoft couldn't tolerate having their golden goose threatened. Read more about it in the books "Startup" by Jerry Kaplan, and "Barbarians Led by Bill Gates" by Marlin Eller.
Agreed. Plus paper books don't crash, don't require power, don't need to be backed up in case of a drive failure, and there's no DRM bullshit to worry about.
Personally, I think e-books have their place, like for technical reference manuals-- portable and searchable are great selling points there-- but it's going to be quite a while before I accept e-books for recreational reading.
Besides most of them are running Microsoft antivirus software by default.
[citation needed]
I'd be more inclined to think that most of them are running [the possibly expired trial version of] whatever came preloaded on their machine when they bought it, which most certainly would NOT be Microsoft Security Essentials, lest the antivirus vendors go crying monopoly.
In any case, antivirus software did not help. I know of at least one large company with very well locked down machines and a very well locked down network, and they still got their ass kicked by this thing.
Before anyone replies, "Well, just root the phone to get around that stuff! Duh!" let me remind you that geeks who are willing and able to do so are far, far outnumbered by normal people who just want to use their goddamn phone, not tinker with it.
Screen shots of the graphics back then wouldn't sell the game (especially not in the case of unsavvy parents and grandparents buying the games for their kids/grandkids), so they usually designed box art that was attractive and evocative of the title. Many of them were really well done, and remember that that was in the days before Photoshop and Illustrator. Whoever owns the rights on those images should sell enlarged reproductions-- they'd probably do okay among the nostalgia crowd.
If you wanna talk misleading box art, how about the Colecovision console? IIRC, the box that thing came in was *covered* with screen shots of games, many of which never actually came into existence. They put out a few catalogs with pages full of vaporware, too.
And when Apple has a decent market share (which is what you're helping them achieve), the security holes will get exploited.
Okay, look, I'm sick and tired of this argument. Market share doesn't mean shit, installed base does-- malware authors are not looking at market share reports and saying, "Oh, if only Apple had x%, I would SO write for OS X!" The installed base of OS X today dwarfs that of the classic Mac OS that existed in the 90s, back when Apple had ~15% market share. Yet malware was quite a bit more of a problem in the classic Mac OS days than it has been in the OS X era.
It was worth people's trouble to write malware for an OS that had several million fewer machines running it back then, but it's not worth their time today for an OS that has a much larger user population? Care to try to explain that?
There was a good solid decade between 1978 and 1988 when you could go into any mall and you'd hear the arcade from a mile away. I'd make a bee-line for 'em and blow any quarters I had on me. They always turned the games up way too loud, and the most distinctive sound was the falling bug from centipede. Going to the arcade was a very sensory experience.
For any young'uns out there who want an idea of what it looked and sounded like, check out the video found here. (If you play the Quicktime version, be sure to click on the right side of the movie to turn on the music.)
That video is almost 10 years old, and I still find it amazing. I wish that guy would redo it with the tools available today.
I think MS just thinks people wants to use the same application that they use on PC on Slate or tablet devices. It may not be the case.
It quite definitively is not the case. They've been trying to shove desktop-Windows-on-a-tablet down people's throats for a decade already... longer, even, since Gates championed them quite a while before he left.
People have ignored those products for ten years, you'd think by now Microsoft would have figured it out and tried something else, but nope, that's exactly what they're trying to do, AGAIN. At this point I think it's just cognitive dissonance-- deep down, they know Windows on a tablet won't sell, but since Windows is all they know how to do, they just keep stuffing Windows into tablets and trying to sell them.
The odd thing is, their intellectual theft has genuinely made the world a better place. Striking, but there it is.
Without their intellectual theft (and a healthy dose of 'must-destroy-all-threats-to-Windows' mentality), we'd have had perfectly viable tablet computing for twenty years already, instead of ten years of Microsoft Fail before the iPad appeared to finally deliver it.
I wonder how many other competitors, products, and technologies that we don't know about, were were considered threats to Windows and killed by Microsoft during the height of their pre-antitrust, abusive monopoly power...
Microsoft is a two-trick pony--all they really have is Windows and Office. Sure, they have other things to sell like Exchange, SharePoint, etc, but all of that exists merely to lock you into Windows and Office and make it painful to switch to something else.
The money that comes in from those two products is sufficient that they can piss an ungodly amount away on a big pile of suck, and still have enough left over to be able to stay comfortably in business.
Their reliance on Windows and Office is going to ultimately be their undoing, because it's all they know. Even in the face of the iPad's success with a custom, touch-based OS and their own decade of failures in the tablet market, their grand plan to defeat the iPad is still to stuff a version of Windows into a tablet form factor.
Microsoft is so entrenched with Windows and Office that you could shave down a gorilla and put it in charge for a while and they'd be fine, money wise. (Some would say Ballmer is proof of that.)
But seriously, on his watch Microsoft has had some of it's biggest failures, like Vista and Kin. He laughed off the iPhone and then his company's product got trounced by it. He dismissed the iPad and similarly got caught with his pants down when it became a multi-million seller. He has mismanaged so badly that he's driven off some of their best talent.
He has no vision-- all he does is react to what his competitors do (and not always in a timely manner, as we saw with the iPhone). A CEO is supposed to be a leader, not take his cues from what the competition is doing.
the new buzz word to kill off in the name of Windows is tablet and to some extent smartphone. They'll have a very tough time with the smartphone but the tablet sector is just getting started and Android isn't even out of the gate on that platform yet. I smell lots of marketing deals forcing exclusivity with Microsoft once again.
Doubtful. The market has spoken, and it has said, "We don't want a bloated desktop OS shoehorned into a tablet," but that's all Microsoft has to offer-- they are reportedly dissuading if not outright banning OEMs from putting Windows Phone 7 on tablets. And when it comes to smartphones, Microsoft is going to be shipping an unproven 1.0 product and has a history of not getting stuff right until 3.0.
Given Microsoft's track record in the mobile space these last three years, no OEM is going to be stupid enough to sign on exclusively with them. OEMs will want to keep their options open so they can produce Android devices, in the event the Microsoft Mobile Fail Train keeps chugging along.
If it's a run-of-the-mill air-cooled model, just sell it. I just sold mine for $200 direct to someone (who I found on here, actually), but on eBay they were going for around $250 when I looked. Put the money toward buying/building a smaller, less power-hungry box if you're looking for something to do server duty. The person who pays your electric bill will thank you.
If, on the other hand, it's one of the liquid-cooled models, keep it and definitely use it for something suggested in this discussion, but make sure you keep good backups-- Eventually it will develop a catastrophic coolant leak which will destroy it, and if you take it to an Apple Store they might just give you a free Mac Pro.
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Windows 7, Windows CE and Windows Mobile are majorly used but it's not always so obvious. When you take a flight all the televisions in airports run Windows.
Actually, it's pretty obvious.
And actually, not all airports are using Windows. [FYI: PDF link]
~Philly
Wow, you get the award for the most ignorant post I've ever seen from someone with such a low UID.
It's certainly not a "Unix".
You're right, It's not a Unix. It's a certified UNIX, since May 18, 2007.
The shiny GUI apps are very not-Unix and have a sort of Apple NIH syndrome
Uh, you know that Apple ships X11 for OS X, right?
You know you can run OS X without the shiny GUI, or if you're really hard core, compile Darwin from source to do so, right?
You know there's plenty of more UNIX-y stuff available from MacPorts and Fink, right?
~Philly
Only by submitting their apps to Apple's store and giving up 30% of their receipts will developers get to take advantage of two new OS features.
The first is Apple's new 'Launchpad,' a tool for easily opening application
Where exactly does it say that no apps except those bought from the App Store will be available in the Launchpad? Doesn't say that on Apple's page, and the way it's written doesn't even imply it, unless you're out looking for something to post an anti-Apple screed.
the second is the ability to update apps to new versions with one click.
Yeah, because no Mac applications currently have that ability. Oh, unless you count the ~750 listed here, that use Sparkle.
~Philly
Ah, right, right. I stand corrected.
Mac OS 9 probably should have been called Mac OS 8.7, but for the fact that Jobs needed a quick way out of the contracts Apple had with the cloners, which were killing Apple.
The loophole that was found was that the cloners' licenses to distribute Mac OS were only valid for version 8.x. Thus they renamed Mac OS 8.7 to Mac OS 9 and refused to license the new major version to the cloners, putting them out of business.
~Philly
If you're careful, hackintoshing is not that big of a hassle. I have two. The first one I built as an experiment about 2 years ago, just to see it for myself. It worked well enough that I put it into service as a fileserver in my home running OS X Server 10.5, replacing an ancient G4 2x450MHz machine. A couple weeks ago I upgraded it to OS X Server 10.6. It's rock stable and performs very well.
The second one is about a year old, and was built to replace two machines: an aging gaming PC, and an old Power Mac G5 that was my primary desktop. I chose my components carefully and got Mac Pro performance for about half the price, and the machine dual boots OS X 10.6 and Windows 7 Ultimate. I enjoy the occasional PC build, and for $1200 in savings, I didn't mind needing to get my hands a little dirty to get OS X running on it. Already having a functional Mac meant I could keep the hackintosh on my workbench for about a month, testing things risk-free, blowing it up and putting it back together, and generally figuring out every last little detail to make sure it would do what I wanted/needed and give me trouble-free operation.
It did take a little work to get them up and running, but once you reach that point you're pretty much set. I am pretty careful about updates since sometimes they do break things, but others usually figure out the fixes pretty quickly and post them on the sites where hackintoshers congregate. I also keep very good backups, via Time Machine as a matter of course, and by making bootable clones to secondary hard drives before I install anything major.
~Philly
The first incarnation of Windows on a tablet dates to about 1989-1990. It was Windows 3.1 with some custom software on top.
It was designed for one purpose: to destroy Go Corporation, who had the unmitigated gall to try to produce a tablet with a purpose-built OS that was not Windows-compatible.
That's right, folks, tablet computing would be 20 years ahead of where it is now, except Microsoft couldn't tolerate having their golden goose threatened. Read more about it in the books "Startup" by Jerry Kaplan, and "Barbarians Led by Bill Gates" by Marlin Eller.
~Philly
...that gets all the big names-- but only when they're embarrassingly past their prime.
It may only be a rumor, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if it turned out to be true.
Agreed. Plus paper books don't crash, don't require power, don't need to be backed up in case of a drive failure, and there's no DRM bullshit to worry about.
Personally, I think e-books have their place, like for technical reference manuals-- portable and searchable are great selling points there-- but it's going to be quite a while before I accept e-books for recreational reading.
~Philly
Besides most of them are running Microsoft antivirus software by default.
[citation needed]
I'd be more inclined to think that most of them are running [the possibly expired trial version of] whatever came preloaded on their machine when they bought it, which most certainly would NOT be Microsoft Security Essentials, lest the antivirus vendors go crying monopoly.
In any case, antivirus software did not help. I know of at least one large company with very well locked down machines and a very well locked down network, and they still got their ass kicked by this thing.
~Philly
...that the carriers are beginning to resort to their old tricks on the new Android phones? Stuff like replacing Google search with Bing and not letting you change it back, loading phones up with unremovable crapware, locking down tethering, banning installation of non-Marketplace apps, etc.
Before anyone replies, "Well, just root the phone to get around that stuff! Duh!" let me remind you that geeks who are willing and able to do so are far, far outnumbered by normal people who just want to use their goddamn phone, not tinker with it.
iOS 4 updates for iPad have been delayed multiple times.
They have? In July, Jobs said the iPad would get it iOS 4 "in the Fall," and at the beginning of this month he said November.
Doesn't look like it's been delayed to me, looks like it's right on track.
~Philly
Screen shots of the graphics back then wouldn't sell the game (especially not in the case of unsavvy parents and grandparents buying the games for their kids/grandkids), so they usually designed box art that was attractive and evocative of the title. Many of them were really well done, and remember that that was in the days before Photoshop and Illustrator. Whoever owns the rights on those images should sell enlarged reproductions-- they'd probably do okay among the nostalgia crowd.
If you wanna talk misleading box art, how about the Colecovision console? IIRC, the box that thing came in was *covered* with screen shots of games, many of which never actually came into existence. They put out a few catalogs with pages full of vaporware, too.
~Philly
Yeah, I don't get the point of this article. The ISPs have the weasel words right in front of you, they're not hiding anything.
Now with that "unlimited" connection promise, on the other hand...
~Philly
I meant to add that that ~15% number is meaningless because of the installed base. Today, Apple has a smaller slice of a much, much larger pie.
And when Apple has a decent market share (which is what you're helping them achieve), the security holes will get exploited.
Okay, look, I'm sick and tired of this argument. Market share doesn't mean shit, installed base does-- malware authors are not looking at market share reports and saying, "Oh, if only Apple had x%, I would SO write for OS X!" The installed base of OS X today dwarfs that of the classic Mac OS that existed in the 90s, back when Apple had ~15% market share. Yet malware was quite a bit more of a problem in the classic Mac OS days than it has been in the OS X era.
It was worth people's trouble to write malware for an OS that had several million fewer machines running it back then, but it's not worth their time today for an OS that has a much larger user population? Care to try to explain that?
~Philly
There was a good solid decade between 1978 and 1988 when you could go into any mall and you'd hear the arcade from a mile away. I'd make a bee-line for 'em and blow any quarters I had on me. They always turned the games up way too loud, and the most distinctive sound was the falling bug from centipede. Going to the arcade was a very sensory experience.
For any young'uns out there who want an idea of what it looked and sounded like, check out the video found here. (If you play the Quicktime version, be sure to click on the right side of the movie to turn on the music.)
That video is almost 10 years old, and I still find it amazing. I wish that guy would redo it with the tools available today.
~Philly
Lastly I did the creation of the recovery discs and it took nearly two sodding hours or so to burn the FOUR DAMN DVDS! What the hell is on there?!?
A lot of Asus-branded shite, plus some Oberon media games, plus Trend Micro virus scan trial and then the Office 2007 trial.
I think MS just thinks people wants to use the same application that they use on PC on Slate or tablet devices. It may not be the case.
It quite definitively is not the case. They've been trying to shove desktop-Windows-on-a-tablet down people's throats for a decade already... longer, even, since Gates championed them quite a while before he left.
People have ignored those products for ten years, you'd think by now Microsoft would have figured it out and tried something else, but nope, that's exactly what they're trying to do, AGAIN. At this point I think it's just cognitive dissonance-- deep down, they know Windows on a tablet won't sell, but since Windows is all they know how to do, they just keep stuffing Windows into tablets and trying to sell them.
~Philly
The odd thing is, their intellectual theft has genuinely made the world a better place. Striking, but there it is.
Without their intellectual theft (and a healthy dose of 'must-destroy-all-threats-to-Windows' mentality), we'd have had perfectly viable tablet computing for twenty years already, instead of ten years of Microsoft Fail before the iPad appeared to finally deliver it.
I wonder how many other competitors, products, and technologies that we don't know about, were were considered threats to Windows and killed by Microsoft during the height of their pre-antitrust, abusive monopoly power...
~Philly
Microsoft is a two-trick pony--all they really have is Windows and Office. Sure, they have other things to sell like Exchange, SharePoint, etc, but all of that exists merely to lock you into Windows and Office and make it painful to switch to something else.
The money that comes in from those two products is sufficient that they can piss an ungodly amount away on a big pile of suck, and still have enough left over to be able to stay comfortably in business.
Their reliance on Windows and Office is going to ultimately be their undoing, because it's all they know. Even in the face of the iPad's success with a custom, touch-based OS and their own decade of failures in the tablet market, their grand plan to defeat the iPad is still to stuff a version of Windows into a tablet form factor.
Microsoft is so entrenched with Windows and Office that you could shave down a gorilla and put it in charge for a while and they'd be fine, money wise. (Some would say Ballmer is proof of that.)
But seriously, on his watch Microsoft has had some of it's biggest failures, like Vista and Kin. He laughed off the iPhone and then his company's product got trounced by it. He dismissed the iPad and similarly got caught with his pants down when it became a multi-million seller. He has mismanaged so badly that he's driven off some of their best talent.
He has no vision-- all he does is react to what his competitors do (and not always in a timely manner, as we saw with the iPhone). A CEO is supposed to be a leader, not take his cues from what the competition is doing.
~Philly
Oh, a sarcasm punctuation mark. That's a real useful invention!
the new buzz word to kill off in the name of Windows is tablet and to some extent smartphone. They'll have a very tough time with the smartphone but the tablet sector is just getting started and Android isn't even out of the gate on that platform yet.
I smell lots of marketing deals forcing exclusivity with Microsoft once again.
Doubtful. The market has spoken, and it has said, "We don't want a bloated desktop OS shoehorned into a tablet," but that's all Microsoft has to offer-- they are reportedly dissuading if not outright banning OEMs from putting Windows Phone 7 on tablets. And when it comes to smartphones, Microsoft is going to be shipping an unproven 1.0 product and has a history of not getting stuff right until 3.0.
Given Microsoft's track record in the mobile space these last three years, no OEM is going to be stupid enough to sign on exclusively with them. OEMs will want to keep their options open so they can produce Android devices, in the event the Microsoft Mobile Fail Train keeps chugging along.
~Philly
If it's a run-of-the-mill air-cooled model, just sell it. I just sold mine for $200 direct to someone (who I found on here, actually), but on eBay they were going for around $250 when I looked. Put the money toward buying/building a smaller, less power-hungry box if you're looking for something to do server duty. The person who pays your electric bill will thank you.
If, on the other hand, it's one of the liquid-cooled models, keep it and definitely use it for something suggested in this discussion, but make sure you keep good backups-- Eventually it will develop a catastrophic coolant leak which will destroy it, and if you take it to an Apple Store they might just give you a free Mac Pro.
~Philly