> You won't find someone wearing a stained uniform, chewing gum, and moving to get your food like they're in a competition to see how slow they can go.
This is BS.
Jobs are moving to India and China, not Japan. Go there and you will find plenty of stained uniforms, and lot more than chewing gum on the roads, if any. Outside of the high tech (hell, even inside high tech), you'll find pretty lousy work ethics. I've found American workers (at least in high tech) to have very good work ethics, and productivity. I should know, having worked in US for six years, and in India for the rest of my life.
Jobs are moving there because its the 'money, stupid'.
1. Before you start beating up on Indians, remember that it's American managers that do the outsourcing, and the ones that benefit the most.
2. If the Tata company didn't hire him in US because he was American, he could (and should) take legal recourse.
3. You can work in India as an American. Thousands of other Americans do, even in high tech jobs. You need to :
a. Get a job in an Indian company. Like Intel:-)
b. Apply for a 'business visa for employment at your local Indian embassy/consulate
And go.
The economy sucks, but that doesn't mean you put the blame on other people who like you are trying to work for a living.
I had really good experiences in Tokyo- was there for a month. Ok, it is cramped, crowded etc, but the people were really polite and helpful. Very clean, and very safe. Lots of MacDonalds too, in case you get homesick- and the Roppongi area for party time.
Try going around more tradional parts of Japan too (Kyoto, Nara).
IANAL and all the good stuff... you could start a company in Japan, and have your CA company outsource work to it. Or, have your CA company open a one-man 'branch' office.
Or, you could give me your job:-) What do you do again?
No it doesnt. There are a bunch of Americans working in Bangalore (ok, in management roles) in US based companies. I am not an expert in Indian immigration/visa laws, but you could get help from the Indian embassy or in your local Indian consulate.
There are even international schools in Bangalore so your kids can study stuff they do in US.. plus Bangalore has a lot of great pubs!
remember using slackware in the summer of 94- my first exposure to Linux, and not a very easy one at that. Had to copy it on 1.44 floppies (took 40 of them to get everything.. or maybe less. I forget now.) Stayed up the whole night coping to the disks, and then going back and installing it.. only to find a few disks corrupted.
Also remember that the installation created guest like accounts by default, named "snake" and "gonzo" (does anyone know why, and if it still does?). Used that to hack into the Physics dept. hehe.
Sigh. How time passes when you are having fun ! Happy B'day Slackware.
Slate had a travel diary by a GeekCorps guy in Mongolia- seems they have a similar policy. IMO, a lot of third world countries have fairly unimaginative beauracracies..
He says (and I quote) "what's going wrong with Mongolia's Internet policy. Here's an example: In most parts of the world, the 2.4 ghz portion of the radio spectrum is set aside for unlicensed use by low-power, short-range devices--like Wi-Fi (aka 802.11b) wireless Internet cards and cordless telephones--without government permission. The result has been an astounding explosion in the deployment of wireless Internet connections, from home networks to the T-Mobile hotspot at each of the 17 Starbucks on your block. In Mongolia, however, the regulatory authority has ruled that companies and users must obtain official licenses (and pay costly licensing fees) to use the 2.4 ghz range for any purpose. Even to set up a wireless home network requires government permission and the payment of fees. This policy can best be described as bonkers."
Sanskrit you ignorant maggot:-) And yes, it is spoken and in active use. Every Hindu religious ceremony is in Sanskrit, and every priest and read/write and speak it. Given that there are 800 millions plus Hindus, that's a lot of Sanskrit out there.
Google is/may become a monopoly in the search space. As a previous discussion noted, it has entered into our common vocabulary. In such a situation, where do the rights of a private organization end, and that of the public good begin?
For instance, if PacBell (substitute your local phone company here) stops carrying calls over its physical network that use other long distance services, or Microsoft tries putting roadblocks for third party applications on its platform.. umm- scratch the last one.
It is a shame that most of the responses to this story are lame and GNU/Linux remarks. RMS started the whole Open Source movement almost single handedly, and has contributed a lot more to it than any single person has.
Happy Birthday Mr Stallman! I owe a lot of my CS education to you and the excellant GNU programming tools.
One of the authors has an Indian name; true. What that means is that he is not of Caucasian decent. Does that mean he is not/can not be an American ?
Look around the Silicon valley. Look at the person in your next cubicle. Now would you want to buy a book written by a (white) american, given that so few of them work as software engineers? *smirk*
Why am I arguing with an idiot like you? Ok, you have me there..
The implications of this proof:
The math whiz who solves the Riemann hypothesis problem stands to not only earn a million dollars and global acclaim, but also to stand the information security industry on its ear. If it becomes simple to factor the product of prime numbers, current digital encryption software will be worthless.
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> You won't find someone wearing a stained uniform, chewing gum, and moving to get your food like they're in a competition to see how slow they can go.
This is BS.
Jobs are moving to India and China, not Japan. Go there and you will find plenty of stained uniforms, and lot more than chewing gum on the roads, if any. Outside of the high tech (hell, even inside high tech), you'll find pretty lousy work ethics. I've found American workers (at least in high tech) to have very good work ethics, and productivity. I should know, having worked in US for six years, and in India for the rest of my life.
Jobs are moving there because its the 'money, stupid'.
- RABINDRANATH TAGORE (1913) - Literature
- CHANDRASHEKAR VENKATA RAMAN (1930) - Physics
- HARGOBIND KHORANA (1968) - Medicine
- MOTHER TERESA (1979)- Peace
- SUBRAMANIAN CHANDRASHEKAR (1983) - Physics
- AMARTYA SEN (1998) - Economics
There have been open source contributions by Indians- maybe not major ones yet. Take a look on sourceforge. I'm thereForgot the obligatory link
Old Monk Rum.. now that gives a mule of a kick all right!
Back in India I drank Kingfisher.. not had it in a while. Heard they do a mighty nice swimsuit special too!
Will send over blank media for prescription drugs.
*grin*
IM-not-so-HO, calling Japan the 'land of the rising sun' is as racist as calling Chicago the 'windy city'. Another case of PC going haywire...
Haskell.... oooh. Brings back memories. I did a lot of programming in Gofer (a dialect/implementation) of Haskell for an introductory CS courses.
1. Before you start beating up on Indians, remember that it's American managers that do the outsourcing, and the ones that benefit the most.
2. If the Tata company didn't hire him in US because he was American, he could (and should) take legal recourse.
3. You can work in India as an American. Thousands of other Americans do, even in high tech jobs. You need to :
a. Get a job in an Indian company. Like Intel
b. Apply for a 'business visa for employment at your local Indian embassy/consulate
And go.
The economy sucks, but that doesn't mean you put the blame on other people who like you are trying to work for a living.
Erasers? You want to send pencil erasers to India?
hehe.
That's what a 'rubber' means in Indian (British ?)English.
I had really good experiences in Tokyo- was there for a month. Ok, it is cramped, crowded etc, but the people were really polite and helpful. Very clean, and very safe. Lots of MacDonalds too, in case you get homesick- and the Roppongi area for party time.
Try going around more tradional parts of Japan too (Kyoto, Nara).
IANAL and all the good stuff... you could start a company in Japan, and have your CA company outsource work to it. Or, have your CA company open a one-man 'branch' office.
Or, you could give me your job
So you mean to say that lack of money to buy software give you the right to steal it? Does your rationale extend to other things too? Cars maybe?
"Please be respectful, moron". Does anyone else see the inherant contradiction in the statement?
and running legal software, you wouldn't have anything to worry about, right :-) ?
Ok found out from the website.
...
The procedure is
1. Get a job in India
2. Apply for a business visa for employment. This need the signed employment contract. It is valid for a year, but can be extended
3.
4. umm.. profit?
A lot simpler than H1B- where there are labor approval requirements, degree equivalance checks, etc.
No it doesnt. There are a bunch of Americans working in Bangalore (ok, in management roles) in US based companies. I am not an expert in Indian immigration/visa laws, but you could get help from the Indian embassy or in your local Indian consulate.
There are even international schools in Bangalore so your kids can study stuff they do in US.. plus Bangalore has a lot of great pubs!
remember using slackware in the summer of 94- my first exposure to Linux, and not a very easy one at that. Had to copy it on 1.44 floppies (took 40 of them to get everything.. or maybe less. I forget now.) Stayed up the whole night coping to the disks, and then going back and installing it.. only to find a few disks corrupted.
Also remember that the installation created guest like accounts by default, named "snake" and "gonzo" (does anyone know why, and if it still does?). Used that to hack into the Physics dept. hehe.
Sigh. How time passes when you are having fun ! Happy B'day Slackware.
> The government represents the people In Pakistan, it doesnt. The army seized power in '99..
Slate had a travel diary by a GeekCorps guy in Mongolia- seems they have a similar policy. IMO, a lot of third world countries have fairly unimaginative beauracracies..
He says (and I quote) "what's going wrong with Mongolia's Internet policy. Here's an example: In most parts of the world, the 2.4 ghz portion of the radio spectrum is set aside for unlicensed use by low-power, short-range devices--like Wi-Fi (aka 802.11b) wireless Internet cards and cordless telephones--without government permission. The result has been an astounding explosion in the deployment of wireless Internet connections, from home networks to the T-Mobile hotspot at each of the 17 Starbucks on your block. In Mongolia, however, the regulatory authority has ruled that companies and users must obtain official licenses (and pay costly licensing fees) to use the 2.4 ghz range for any purpose. Even to set up a wireless home network requires government permission and the payment of fees. This policy can best be described as bonkers."
Sanskrit you ignorant maggot :-)
And yes, it is spoken and in active use. Every Hindu religious ceremony is in Sanskrit, and every priest and read/write and speak it. Given that there are 800 millions plus Hindus, that's a lot of Sanskrit out there.
Google is/may become a monopoly in the search space. As a previous discussion noted, it has entered into our common vocabulary. In such a situation, where do the rights of a private organization end, and that of the public good begin?
For instance, if PacBell (substitute your local phone company here) stops carrying calls over its physical network that use other long distance services, or Microsoft tries putting roadblocks for third party applications on its platform .. umm- scratch the last one.
It is a shame that most of the responses to this story are lame and GNU/Linux remarks. RMS started the whole Open Source movement almost single handedly, and has contributed a lot more to it than any single person has.
Happy Birthday Mr Stallman! I owe a lot of my CS education to you and the excellant GNU programming tools.
The implications of this proof:
The math whiz who solves the Riemann hypothesis problem stands to not only earn a million dollars and global acclaim, but also to stand the information security industry on its ear. If it becomes simple to factor the product of prime numbers, current digital encryption software will be worthless.
First they came for the non-citizens,
I did not speak up, for I wasn't a non-citizen.
Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak up for me.
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