It was a bloody IRC server that's all. It was used by LOIC to get targets, etc...
I'm sure they were scraping and recording all of the chat logs from each IRC channel that was used, and THOSE logs are the ones with the money info, like who was participating, or at least their IP at the time. Snatching the IRC servers themselves is relatively useless.
Since they are offshore, PCI-DSS is not an issue, nor if there is ever a link found, there would be any criminal penalties applied.
PCI regulations are not a national framework. Just because they are offshore doesn't mean they do not have to "theoretically" comply. Now, if they don't care about breaking the law and/or regulatory frameworks, that is a different story.
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the recent push to "crack" the PS3 OS was due to the removal of that function, which Sony did to try to prevent the cracking of their OS. Oh, the circular eddies of irony that feed our world:D
I sincerely doubt they were looking for "evidence" for a trial...I also doubt that it was either Greece or the US that did this. The conference calls were probably setup from the provider (Vodaphone's) side, not actually installed on the phone itself.
Since when did we think that it will only be invented here, or even that the teams working on it are only situated in the US? What would be the result be, if say, Japan invented a working 200 Qubit prototype? Does anyone think that the US would sit idly by and let the Japanese gov't say "Umm, this is potentially detrimental to our National Security infrastructure, so NO-ONE can bring any information or working models outside of the country..."
What will they do if 3 researchers are working on this in the US, 6 are in the UK, and 5 others are in Japan..Do they think these people won't be sharing research data, ESPECIALLY if they work for the same company?!
XML is a derivative of SGML..WAY Older than 1997, I can't see how an IP attorney would suggest they actually litigate this. There is A LOT of prior art to go through, in a LOT of formats...This is going to take YEARS in a best case.
The Compatibility w/ older HW/SW is a good thing from a marketing standpoint, but all of the older drivers and antiquated forms of data access to/from these legacy devices does put restrictions on what the OS can do TODAY. In short, the need to support such a wide, disparate spectrum of devices and technologies hampers the OS to be as fast and efficient as it COULD be, if support for these older devices and formats were removed.
Excpet for the fact that Ad-Aware already had A HUGE problem recently w/ delisting of products, specifically When-U. I know many who no longer use it as the first tool against spyware, merely for thoroughness.
I mean come on, this is so completely unrealistic that ity smacks of the old days of the Internet Bubble. TW at least has real assets that can be valued, while Google is primarily a IP (intellectual property) company. Yes they do make search devices, yes they do have a Proven (albeit short) track record of innovation, but valuing this company at that figure is totally over-reaching. Their P/E ratio is so over-blown that no serious investor can look at this as anything other than a over-correction based upon the fact that Google is an Internet darling and one of the few that surivived the purge and actually PROFITED.
Ok YOU aren't a hero for any of the computer stuff you do, but others... you cannot DEFINITIVELY say they aren't being a hero for doing IT work.
I doubt that anyone would argue that being in Law Enforcement or Fire Fighting is not a dangerous job. What I would argue is that any job where your competence and skills are being used in a manner in which if you FAIL, serious possible injury can happen to others, can be a candidate for heroism.
I've done the deed, I've been in the Army, in a combat arms role. My MOS started out as 11B, I finished after I was injured and declared unfit for combat duty. Who are you to tell me (or anyone) which was more important? Heros are defined by the people making the accolades.
I always wondered, is it possible to read these passively at some other location (i.e. a small reader attached near the lock on an apartment complex?) and bill later? Perhaps storing the tag's info in flash for eventual DL?
Did you read the article, or just skim it for the part that you could grasp onto and then "debunk" this? The point of listing the electrical stats aws to show that a VERY small draw engine could move a re4latively large amount of mass efficiently. Based upon reading this and some small knowledge of what it is they are attempting, tell me why scieintifically this is impossible??
I mean the majority of attacks originate or are written outside of the US, it's just that Microsoft is based here. you gonna hold just a very small percentage of the total Internet users responsible and FINE them?? FUck man, my Ip is going to originate from Thailand from now on.
Well for one thing the Xeon and the Pentium 4 are different chips, just like the XP and MP chips are different for AMD. A better comparison would be a Xeon vs. MP. Both of them can run in SMP.
Actually the effect will be rather pronounced. Denmark is part of the European Union, as a matter of fact they were recently confirmed to the office of the Presidency for the EU. Since the EU holds laws across national borders in certain cases, there is the potential here for deep-linking cases to be heard all over the EU and use the Danish Case as a precedent. Think on that and say it is only negligible.
I went for a year, got recruited out of High School and given a full ride to a University (which will remain nameless) for CS. I got there and wound up taking classes involving COBOL and FORTRAN and working on a new thing codenamed NT in my spare time with some other classmates (This was '93-'94). I wound up dropping out of college and going to work for my old HS District. Got put in charge of a telecom project to link the 3 schools and the district offices together on a network w/ Internet connectivity. Somehow pulled that off and then got hired by the NSP we used for the circuits. In the last 8 years I have very rarely ever encountered a situation where I could not explain my lack of a degree in a positive way. I now work for a Fortune 100 Firm as a Senior Systems Analyst embroiled in a national Win2K upgrade w/ ADS. So has a lack of college hurt me, no, in my case it helped. I am one of the few people my age (currently 27) that can say and prove over 8 years experience in the field. Knowledge is better and more useful than a piece of paper, and you will find most employers will agree.
Pleas and arguments to the government to "protect us" from the very consumers who help make and finance these companies should make all consumers of these company's products sit up and re-evaluate their intentions. Instead of innovating new and profitable ways to service the market, these companies reach a certain critical mass and then turn to lobbying and meaningless political rhetoric to try to bulwark their slowly degrading market share in areas that the consumer has slowly started to leave. Once these behemoths of corporate Amerika turn on to an issue, the PAC's and backdoor deals to pass legislation to "protect the consumer" inevitably follow. Capitalism is supposed to react to "market forces", not government interference. If the mass consumers WANT to steal music, they WILL!! If it causes large media organizations to fail, then let them. Ideally, whatever the consumer wants to get, it eventually will, at whatever acquisition cost it decides is agreeable.
In this case the music is "free" on various P2P networks. To the average consumer this price is acceptable, to the average unsigned band, this is acceptable. Only to the Record companies, and Major Label artists is this unacceptable. One way or another, this too shall pass and an equilibrium will be reached. What this is, I do not know. But rest assured, it will be reached, if and only if, the Government stays out of it.
Lunchbox machines aren't meant to be cheap or inexpensive...Their meant to be ruggedized PC's in portable enclosures for jobs that need the full power and expandability of a desktop PC without the (relative) fragility that comes along with desktops. You probably are not going to find one cheap. If you want this kind of power and can be reasonably careful, an intelligently built desktop that is carefully secured inside the case can do your job. You want that ruggedness...you're going to pay for it.
There is another option, you can always contract a W2 Withholding compnay to take care of all those pesky W2's and misc. aperwork. I have used these on occasion and they normally run along the lines of $20-$40 a week and handle almost everything needed, a good buy for most contractors who make over $1K easily a week after taxes when on contract.
If you want truly quiet, go the watercooling route. You can watercool everyone component in your case, exhaust the heat out the back using two fans, and the noise is normally below ambient. I currently WC both processor's, my ram, my Vid card, my PSU, my HD's, and both MoBo bridges. I only have 3 fans in the case, two exhausting past the radiator in the back, and one that pulls air into the case. Put a filter on your intake and your set.
The fact is that no matter how hard they try, they won't get all products to put in backdoors even if legislation is passed requiring it, hence the ones who want/need this level of security will merely migrate to those that are not "goverment compliant". The ones that do become compliant will be exploited by "non-authorized" parties and then the cry will go up about why we let this happen. In then end, it is merely more political spew, done to garner attention and to subvert the few freedoms that people CAN utilize. This argument is so old for those that follow it that I doubt any new light can be shed, much less actually achieved
This type of tech is what scares me. Obviously readers of this (and others) have some sort of idea what these practices lead to in the future if left unchecked and unopposed, but the rank and file computer users rarely involve themselves in this. Most of them never even know such technologies are in their PC's, TV's, VCR's, etc... until they want to do something and they can't, or a mainstream news source picks up on it.
I wonder though if those same users realize what we (meaning all those opposing these types of issues) are trying to save for them. If these censorship technologies get too strong of a foothold in the everyday lives of people, if it becomes impossible to buy a TV without some sort monitoring devce, or a HD with a chip that checks to see if you are "allowed" to copy that file, and these same technologies are protected so that we cannot remove them legally...Think of the future, it makes 1984 look simple.
So to Andre I ask:
Why do I supposedly need these tech in my HD, and how am I to be assured that it will never prevent me from using my PC in a matter that I wish whether that is legal or not?
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Pwnie Express sells a N900 with Backtrack installed, dunno how well the phone functions though
It was a bloody IRC server that's all. It was used by LOIC to get targets, etc...
I'm sure they were scraping and recording all of the chat logs from each IRC channel that was used, and THOSE logs are the ones with the money info, like who was participating, or at least their IP at the time. Snatching the IRC servers themselves is relatively useless.
Since they are offshore, PCI-DSS is not an issue, nor if there is ever a link found, there would be any criminal penalties applied.
PCI regulations are not a national framework. Just because they are offshore doesn't mean they do not have to "theoretically" comply. Now, if they don't care about breaking the law and/or regulatory frameworks, that is a different story.
the recent push to "crack" the PS3 OS was due to the removal of that function, which Sony did to try to prevent the cracking of their OS. Oh, the circular eddies of irony that feed our world :D
I sincerely doubt they were looking for "evidence" for a trial...I also doubt that it was either Greece or the US that did this. The conference calls were probably setup from the provider (Vodaphone's) side, not actually installed on the phone itself.
Since when did we think that it will only be invented here, or even that the teams working on it are only situated in the US? What would be the result be, if say, Japan invented a working 200 Qubit prototype? Does anyone think that the US would sit idly by and let the Japanese gov't say "Umm, this is potentially detrimental to our National Security infrastructure, so NO-ONE can bring any information or working models outside of the country..."
What will they do if 3 researchers are working on this in the US, 6 are in the UK, and 5 others are in Japan..Do they think these people won't be sharing research data, ESPECIALLY if they work for the same company?!
XML is a derivative of SGML..WAY Older than 1997, I can't see how an IP attorney would suggest they actually litigate this. There is A LOT of prior art to go through, in a LOT of formats...This is going to take YEARS in a best case.
With the ability to push to my house from work at over 8 Mbps, I rarely worry about this
The Compatibility w/ older HW/SW is a good thing from a marketing standpoint, but all of the older drivers and antiquated forms of data access to/from these legacy devices does put restrictions on what the OS can do TODAY. In short, the need to support such a wide, disparate spectrum of devices and technologies hampers the OS to be as fast and efficient as it COULD be, if support for these older devices and formats were removed.
Excpet for the fact that Ad-Aware already had A HUGE problem recently w/ delisting of products, specifically When-U. I know many who no longer use it as the first tool against spyware, merely for thoroughness.
I mean come on, this is so completely unrealistic that ity smacks of the old days of the Internet Bubble. TW at least has real assets that can be valued, while Google is primarily a IP (intellectual property) company. Yes they do make search devices, yes they do have a Proven (albeit short) track record of innovation, but valuing this company at that figure is totally over-reaching. Their P/E ratio is so over-blown that no serious investor can look at this as anything other than a over-correction based upon the fact that Google is an Internet darling and one of the few that surivived the purge and actually PROFITED.
Ok YOU aren't a hero for any of the computer stuff you do, but others... you cannot DEFINITIVELY say they aren't being a hero for doing IT work.
I doubt that anyone would argue that being in Law Enforcement or Fire Fighting is not a dangerous job. What I would argue is that any job where your competence and skills are being used in a manner in which if you FAIL, serious possible injury can happen to others, can be a candidate for heroism.
I've done the deed, I've been in the Army, in a combat arms role. My MOS started out as 11B, I finished after I was injured and declared unfit for combat duty. Who are you to tell me (or anyone) which was more important? Heros are defined by the people making the accolades.
I always wondered, is it possible to read these passively at some other location (i.e. a small reader attached near the lock on an apartment complex?) and bill later? Perhaps storing the tag's info in flash for eventual DL?
Did you read the article, or just skim it for the part that you could grasp onto and then "debunk" this? The point of listing the electrical stats aws to show that a VERY small draw engine could move a re4latively large amount of mass efficiently. Based upon reading this and some small knowledge of what it is they are attempting, tell me why scieintifically this is impossible??
I mean the majority of attacks originate or are written outside of the US, it's just that Microsoft is based here. you gonna hold just a very small percentage of the total Internet users responsible and FINE them?? FUck man, my Ip is going to originate from Thailand from now on.
Well for one thing the Xeon and the Pentium 4 are different chips, just like the XP and MP chips are different for AMD. A better comparison would be a Xeon vs. MP. Both of them can run in SMP.
Actually the effect will be rather pronounced. Denmark is part of the European Union, as a matter of fact they were recently confirmed to the office of the Presidency for the EU. Since the EU holds laws across national borders in certain cases, there is the potential here for deep-linking cases to be heard all over the EU and use the Danish Case as a precedent. Think on that and say it is only negligible.
I went for a year, got recruited out of High School and given a full ride to a University (which will remain nameless) for CS. I got there and wound up taking classes involving COBOL and FORTRAN and working on a new thing codenamed NT in my spare time with some other classmates (This was '93-'94). I wound up dropping out of college and going to work for my old HS District. Got put in charge of a telecom project to link the 3 schools and the district offices together on a network w/ Internet connectivity. Somehow pulled that off and then got hired by the NSP we used for the circuits. In the last 8 years I have very rarely ever encountered a situation where I could not explain my lack of a degree in a positive way. I now work for a Fortune 100 Firm as a Senior Systems Analyst embroiled in a national Win2K upgrade w/ ADS. So has a lack of college hurt me, no, in my case it helped. I am one of the few people my age (currently 27) that can say and prove over 8 years experience in the field. Knowledge is better and more useful than a piece of paper, and you will find most employers will agree.
Pleas and arguments to the government to "protect us" from the very consumers who help make and finance these companies should make all consumers of these company's products sit up and re-evaluate their intentions. Instead of innovating new and profitable ways to service the market, these companies reach a certain critical mass and then turn to lobbying and meaningless political rhetoric to try to bulwark their slowly degrading market share in areas that the consumer has slowly started to leave. Once these behemoths of corporate Amerika turn on to an issue, the PAC's and backdoor deals to pass legislation to "protect the consumer" inevitably follow. Capitalism is supposed to react to "market forces", not government interference. If the mass consumers WANT to steal music, they WILL!! If it causes large media organizations to fail, then let them. Ideally, whatever the consumer wants to get, it eventually will, at whatever acquisition cost it decides is agreeable.
In this case the music is "free" on various P2P networks. To the average consumer this price is acceptable, to the average unsigned band, this is acceptable. Only to the Record companies, and Major Label artists is this unacceptable. One way or another, this too shall pass and an equilibrium will be reached. What this is, I do not know. But rest assured, it will be reached, if and only if, the Government stays out of it.
Desktops
Lunchbox machines aren't meant to be cheap or inexpensive...Their meant to be ruggedized PC's in portable enclosures for jobs that need the full power and expandability of a desktop PC without the (relative) fragility that comes along with desktops. You probably are not going to find one cheap. If you want this kind of power and can be reasonably careful, an intelligently built desktop that is carefully secured inside the case can do your job. You want that ruggedness...you're going to pay for it.
There is another option, you can always contract a W2 Withholding compnay to take care of all those pesky W2's and misc. aperwork. I have used these on occasion and they normally run along the lines of $20-$40 a week and handle almost everything needed, a good buy for most contractors who make over $1K easily a week after taxes when on contract.
If you want truly quiet, go the watercooling route. You can watercool everyone component in your case, exhaust the heat out the back using two fans, and the noise is normally below ambient. I currently WC both processor's, my ram, my Vid card, my PSU, my HD's, and both MoBo bridges. I only have 3 fans in the case, two exhausting past the radiator in the back, and one that pulls air into the case. Put a filter on your intake and your set.
The fact is that no matter how hard they try, they won't get all products to put in backdoors even if legislation is passed requiring it, hence the ones who want/need this level of security will merely migrate to those that are not "goverment compliant". The ones that do become compliant will be exploited by "non-authorized" parties and then the cry will go up about why we let this happen. In then end, it is merely more political spew, done to garner attention and to subvert the few freedoms that people CAN utilize. This argument is so old for those that follow it that I doubt any new light can be shed, much less actually achieved
This type of tech is what scares me. Obviously readers of this (and others) have some sort of idea what these practices lead to in the future if left unchecked and unopposed, but the rank and file computer users rarely involve themselves in this. Most of them never even know such technologies are in their PC's, TV's, VCR's, etc... until they want to do something and they can't, or a mainstream news source picks up on it.
I wonder though if those same users realize what we (meaning all those opposing these types of issues) are trying to save for them. If these censorship technologies get too strong of a foothold in the everyday lives of people, if it becomes impossible to buy a TV without some sort monitoring devce, or a HD with a chip that checks to see if you are "allowed" to copy that file, and these same technologies are protected so that we cannot remove them legally...Think of the future, it makes 1984 look simple.
So to Andre I ask:
Why do I supposedly need these tech in my HD, and how am I to be assured that it will never prevent me from using my PC in a matter that I wish whether that is legal or not?