Ok so banner advertising with the cpm / click through model is failing... so we need to find other sources of income so now we charge a fee to our user base for them to browse our wonderful site without the banners.
Somewhere else in the office someone says... "Why is our banner model not working again?... Oh right, no one sees them..."
But really, that model stopped working a while ago so now most sites run "house" banners, advertising partner sites and various sections / products within their own sites./. for instance has almost entirely OSDN banners. I would never pay to remove these, I like the OSDN sites and love the thinkgeek banners. So how exactly would this model bring people to subscribe?
It really should be the content of the medium that decides it's classification, not the medium itself. DVD's that contain a single film and whatever other material they choose to pack with it, should be considered a film.
I imagine that this was part of the deciding factor for the judgement but it also means that this will be a continued issue.
When you can start buying the entire Adobe suite of applications on a single DVD, then they can call it software.
Know what's funny about that?... you or a team just like you developes software then charges enormous amounts so that you can offset the cost of paying someone to market and sell your outrageously priced product...
The commercial companies will begin to fall too. The difference is that inversters backed off. Consumers haven't seen the light yet. When they do commercial companies will be restructuring (laying off) just like everyone else!
This is not just a problem the open source community will face. If you look at it that way, their way ahead. By the time the commercial companies see what is happening the open source community will be in a position to thrive.
The biggest flaw I see in what you are saying is that one company / person cannot pay a developer to build them an application and then turn it loose for the world. The problem here is that a single sold copy would be too expensive. You must sell thousands of copies at a lower cost to make up for the time and over-head. So who do you charge?
1 x $10,000
2 x $5,000
...
100 x $100
1000 x $10
This is where the cost / price becomes realistic.
And if this is what you want then it would be called the "shareware" community not the open source community.
I strongly believe that the open source model can work... it just needs a face lift. And many are doing what they can to achieve this. Pats on the back for all of you!
-- OFF TOPIC BELOW... actually it's all prolly off topic... sorry
I wish the open source model was a prosperous one but the reality is that most of any income for open source projects comes from commercial advertising. Which to me is the most dangerous enemy! And you must admit that free software is not the best place to advertise for commercial products.
Open source development is done for the good of the community by the community, until other things in life resemble this, it will be difficult to survive.
Could you imagine if research and development could be done at no cost. This would spawn a hole new accelleration in technology and exploration. If every community in the world followed the path of the open source community, we would be smarter, happier and maybe even healthier.
However this would cause a major spike in population that we cannot handle.
But it would produce jobs, reduce mental illness caused by stress and other things, and reduce the strain on our medical system.
That's my big picture. I just hope that some day we can look at it as only pieces of paper, not the single item that drives our lives.
Perhaps tax breaks, equipment and residence should be provider for open source developers.
I'm in a rather small commuter community and experience next to 24/7 fast speeds. I periodically run multiple servers and am actively engaged in large transfers. I have noticed no reduction in speed. As for companies requiring changes in email addresses and assigning their own, I have my own domain and a host that handles my mail service. Best thing ever. Cable co actually phoned me last week to inform me that I had not performed the required steps to convert my email to the new address. I had the privilege of telling them I had no need for anything but their bandwidth.
"The short answer: we became so popular so fast that we couldn't stay afloat!"
Is there such a thing as this in the advertising world? If they couldn't afford the bandwidth, why not just add a registration page. Make people register to see the ads, then include in the registration a survey sponsored by a paying advertiser to cultivate demographics data...
This is what you do when you are successfull, not being able to handle the implications of being successfull is to me a failure.
This ideology however goes against the beliefs of many of the viewers here. We don't want to give anyone our personal information, especially not to see advertisements! That is exactly why this model would work, only the people prepared to be an asset to the advertisers would view the content. Limiting bandwidth while increasingly targeting the market.
But hey, this is for advertisers, people actually interested in making money, not our wonderfull.coms.
There is no need for a 'bot' to register expired domains. Most Registrars now offer a "wait for this domain" service. Where you are next in line for the domain should it expire. They sell you the right to be in line then charge for registering the domain. Of course if you renew the domain before it expires you will have no problems.
You can actually see if someone is waiting for your domain. Check it out and be warned!
So now not only do you have to get.com,.net, and.org to protect yourself you also have to back order all 3 for 50 bones a piece. Not to mention registering common typo names relevant to your domain (goole.com, gogle.com, etc).
I find this to be a very good point. I was thinking axactly in the opposite direction but I now see what you are getting at. How often do you hear of "never before seen footage"? A roll of film or video that turns up many years later. It's unlikely that someone is going to have a hard drive up in their attack of home vids or a movie that was never released or in this case photos never shown. I guess this is possible with CDs but how often do you back up stuff you don't plan on using? Perhaps what photogs need to re-think is their storage practices not the medium on which they capture.
So try to find someone that has this much enthusiasm to write a report like this that favours Windows. I'm sure you can find different pricing models that would slant it the other way but who in the Windows environment spends the time to make the comparison... All I hear is 'Everyone else uses it, why would we be any different'? That's the Windows attitude for you...
I may even share it with whoever wants it in a format that I choose.
I like what you are saying here but the point would be better made if you stated it as "a format that they choose" since the real issue here is that music should be open to all in unregulated formats (no copy protection) or they should be rebuilding there business model to encorporate the ever changing world.
You do have to understand a little where these record companies are coming from. Before electronically transfered files became common, these companies were making money hand over fist. Suddenly their profits are not increasing at the same rate.
This is a total crock of shit!!! Slashdot how dare you post this without any confirmation!! Does no one see what they are doing? The form you fill out is a flash movie. They then turn that info into a musical graph and spit out exactly what you put in! Oh what a surprise, my number matches, I should go directly to the aggreement page and pay these assholes some money.
Someone should point out here that many of the largest and smaller news paper chains in the world use macintosh computers... With the recent release of OSX10.1 and a little push for Adobe to get with the program (photoshop), those will likely be the largest networks of desktops running a *nix os.
I spend my time in front of a computer most of every day (work @ work and then work @ home). Many of those days I think it might be wonderful to be a "jungle-dwelling, bamboo-eating half-monkey"...
I was just thinking while coding madly at work... Is there some way that I may be able to offer my expertise in web and database development to help out?
Thanks goes out to all that have mirrored and posted news sites and people searches.
What about the fact that so many want to donate items? Items that need to be transported to NY. I personally live in Canada and would ship my personal computer there in a second if it wasn't a Mac. There must be people throughout the US and Canada that will be driving even close to NY. What if we developed an online database of people that will be travelling to the area and have people that are close to them be able to send items with them?
It would take little time to set it up and if anyone with the Red Cross had some time they could say yes or no to things people want to send.
We could also post locations including directions within the area that things could be dropped of at.
Just an idea... I want to know what the/. community thinks of this. If it would be beneficial, I could have something developed within a few hours.
Slashdot Mirror
Ok so banner advertising with the cpm / click through model is failing... so we need to find other sources of income so now we charge a fee to our user base for them to browse our wonderful site without the banners.
... Oh right, no one sees them..."
/. for instance has almost entirely OSDN banners. I would never pay to remove these, I like the OSDN sites and love the thinkgeek banners. So how exactly would this model bring people to subscribe?
Somewhere else in the office someone says... "Why is our banner model not working again?
But really, that model stopped working a while ago so now most sites run "house" banners, advertising partner sites and various sections / products within their own sites.
It really should be the content of the medium that decides it's classification, not the medium itself. DVD's that contain a single film and whatever other material they choose to pack with it, should be considered a film.
I imagine that this was part of the deciding factor for the judgement but it also means that this will be a continued issue.
When you can start buying the entire Adobe suite of applications on a single DVD, then they can call it software.
Know what's funny about that?... you or a team just like you developes software then charges enormous amounts so that you can offset the cost of paying someone to market and sell your outrageously priced product...
The commercial companies will begin to fall too. The difference is that inversters backed off. Consumers haven't seen the light yet. When they do commercial companies will be restructuring (laying off) just like everyone else!
This is not just a problem the open source community will face. If you look at it that way, their way ahead. By the time the commercial companies see what is happening the open source community will be in a position to thrive.
The biggest flaw I see in what you are saying is that one company / person cannot pay a developer to build them an application and then turn it loose for the world. The problem here is that a single sold copy would be too expensive. You must sell thousands of copies at a lower cost to make up for the time and over-head. So who do you charge?
... actually it's all prolly off topic... sorry
1 x $10,000
2 x $5,000
...
100 x $100
1000 x $10
This is where the cost / price becomes realistic.
And if this is what you want then it would be called the "shareware" community not the open source community.
I strongly believe that the open source model can work... it just needs a face lift. And many are doing what they can to achieve this. Pats on the back for all of you!
-- OFF TOPIC BELOW
I wish the open source model was a prosperous one but the reality is that most of any income for open source projects comes from commercial advertising. Which to me is the most dangerous enemy! And you must admit that free software is not the best place to advertise for commercial products.
Open source development is done for the good of the community by the community, until other things in life resemble this, it will be difficult to survive.
Could you imagine if research and development could be done at no cost. This would spawn a hole new accelleration in technology and exploration. If every community in the world followed the path of the open source community, we would be smarter, happier and maybe even healthier.
However this would cause a major spike in population that we cannot handle.
But it would produce jobs, reduce mental illness caused by stress and other things, and reduce the strain on our medical system.
That's my big picture. I just hope that some day we can look at it as only pieces of paper, not the single item that drives our lives.
Perhaps tax breaks, equipment and residence should be provider for open source developers.
I'm in a rather small commuter community and experience next to 24/7 fast speeds. I periodically run multiple servers and am actively engaged in large transfers. I have noticed no reduction in speed. As for companies requiring changes in email addresses and assigning their own, I have my own domain and a host that handles my mail service. Best thing ever. Cable co actually phoned me last week to inform me that I had not performed the required steps to convert my email to the new address. I had the privilege of telling them I had no need for anything but their bandwidth.
"The short answer: we became so popular so fast that we couldn't stay afloat!"
.coms.
Is there such a thing as this in the advertising world? If they couldn't afford the bandwidth, why not just add a registration page. Make people register to see the ads, then include in the registration a survey sponsored by a paying advertiser to cultivate demographics data...
This is what you do when you are successfull, not being able to handle the implications of being successfull is to me a failure.
This ideology however goes against the beliefs of many of the viewers here. We don't want to give anyone our personal information, especially not to see advertisements! That is exactly why this model would work, only the people prepared to be an asset to the advertisers would view the content. Limiting bandwidth while increasingly targeting the market.
But hey, this is for advertisers, people actually interested in making money, not our wonderfull
There is no need for a 'bot' to register expired domains. Most Registrars now offer a "wait for this domain" service. Where you are next in line for the domain should it expire. They sell you the right to be in line then charge for registering the domain. Of course if you renew the domain before it expires you will have no problems.
.com, .net, and .org to protect yourself you also have to back order all 3 for 50 bones a piece. Not to mention registering common typo names relevant to your domain (goole.com, gogle.com, etc).
You can actually see if someone is waiting for your domain. Check it out and be warned!
So now not only do you have to get
I find this to be a very good point. I was thinking axactly in the opposite direction but I now see what you are getting at. How often do you hear of "never before seen footage"? A roll of film or video that turns up many years later. It's unlikely that someone is going to have a hard drive up in their attack of home vids or a movie that was never released or in this case photos never shown. I guess this is possible with CDs but how often do you back up stuff you don't plan on using? Perhaps what photogs need to re-think is their storage practices not the medium on which they capture.
So try to find someone that has this much enthusiasm to write a report like this that favours Windows. I'm sure you can find different pricing models that would slant it the other way but who in the Windows environment spends the time to make the comparison... All I hear is 'Everyone else uses it, why would we be any different'? That's the Windows attitude for you...
I may even share it with whoever wants it in a format that I choose.
I like what you are saying here but the point would be better made if you stated it as "a format that they choose" since the real issue here is that music should be open to all in unregulated formats (no copy protection) or they should be rebuilding there business model to encorporate the ever changing world.
You do have to understand a little where these record companies are coming from. Before electronically transfered files became common, these companies were making money hand over fist. Suddenly their profits are not increasing at the same rate.
-- sigmata
This is a total crock of shit!!! Slashdot how dare you post this without any confirmation!! Does no one see what they are doing? The form you fill out is a flash movie. They then turn that info into a musical graph and spit out exactly what you put in! Oh what a surprise, my number matches, I should go directly to the aggreement page and pay these assholes some money.
Again slashdot how dare you?!?
Someone should point out here that many of the largest and smaller news paper chains in the world use macintosh computers... With the recent release of OSX10.1 and a little push for Adobe to get with the program (photoshop), those will likely be the largest networks of desktops running a *nix os.
The only time the small, attached or inserted, medical devices would fail is when the body is cold...
The site boasts that the peices are lego compatible, that's pretty cool!
What happened to them, anyways?
There in my storage room... couple of big boxes anyway.
Birthdays and christmas, that's all I wanted
Thanks for the flashback everyone.
I spend my time in front of a computer most of every day (work @ work and then work @ home). Many of those days I think it might be wonderful to be a "jungle-dwelling, bamboo-eating half-monkey"...
I was just thinking while coding madly at work... Is there some way that I may be able to offer my expertise in web and database development to help out?
/. community thinks of this. If it would be beneficial, I could have something developed within a few hours.
Thanks goes out to all that have mirrored and posted news sites and people searches.
What about the fact that so many want to donate items? Items that need to be transported to NY. I personally live in Canada and would ship my personal computer there in a second if it wasn't a Mac. There must be people throughout the US and Canada that will be driving even close to NY. What if we developed an online database of people that will be travelling to the area and have people that are close to them be able to send items with them?
It would take little time to set it up and if anyone with the Red Cross had some time they could say yes or no to things people want to send.
We could also post locations including directions within the area that things could be dropped of at.
Just an idea... I want to know what the
Thanks mods... this one deserves a negative (-) rating I think...
-- I'm sure my 2 cents is worth 5 bucks somewhere in the world...
Someone should just email them a bunch of serialz...