And most MIS grads laugh at the CS people who shit their pants when giving public presentations, negotiating, or simply communicating with peers.
That's funny, since I have a CS degree and opted for the MS CS over MIS - and regularly one up very experienced professionals in just the situations you noted above.
Yeah a lot of CS grads are wanker/slackers - but I'm daaaaaangerous;) You probably just meant the wankers, right? Just agree - it'll save me the time of having to reply a 2nd time.
I will compete with and outdo (with extreme pleasure) any MIS you set before me. You wanna talk ROI, RFC, or just DJIA? Hey, I wasn't all that interested in this business stuff in undergrad, but since everyone else seems to think it is so important I might as well blow you mediocre fucks out of the water with your only - and I mean ONLY - available means to flank someone with a CS background. Ta ta.
The "more bits" phenomenon has been sustained by improvements in VLSI and the advent of true System-on-a-chip design, but this too has its limits. If you compare a P4 motherboard with, say, a 386 mobo circa 1995
I agree, the jump from 16 to 32-bit desktop processing was anti-climactic. The hardware definitely lagged behind the processors, and the software lagged even further.
My experience tells me that young people (males particularly) tend to be non-reflective and have a fair amount of trouble
MY experience tells me that old people rely on this stereotype for job security.
I'm 24, in IT, and I can definitely agree that age discrimination not only exists but it's all part of the vast corporate machine. Comments along the lines of the above (from the 30-year old) are simply justification for those who are, in fact, powerless to change things.
The system sucks, but it works. Just wonderful - now what? I gotta sit on my ass for 10 more years before my degree means anything?
Kyrex,
Well this is kind of weird, since I am also 24 and have a BS in Computer and Information Science, as well as being halfway through to a Master of Science in Software Engineering.
Let me get straight to the point: your underlying assumption is incorrect. Having a BS or BA in Computer Science will give you no more advantage than you already have! Don't get me wrong, it is an invaluable asset to me - but in my experience the main benefit of having the degree is the fact that you will come out of the institution with the ability to research and learn new languages easily - this is what they teach you after all! In the IT field, new technologies emerge annually. The degree will enable you to use these new technologies as if you were an "old hand" and had been using them for years.
In terms of salary or competitive advantage, the Master's degree will most certainly give you both a $20k salary boost and a position above the peons in most any company.
Windows XP is dramatically more secure than Windows 2000 or any of the prior systems. Buffer overflow has been one of the attacks frequently used on the Internet. We have gone through all code and, in an automated way, found places where there could be buffer overflow, and those have been removed in Windows XP.
Can we translate "..in an automated way..." to: "we did a search and replace on the kernel code..."
Jon, can you agree that unfiltered news could affect National Security?
If so, then I submit that even "HyperNews" is filtered.
Our Government provides us with rights unparalleled by any other society, EXCEPT in cases where National Security could be compromised. Daily Pentagon "briefings" are a prime example.
So how much do you think Exxon-Mobil would pay AOL-Time Warner to keep those 50 Billion Barrels of untapped crude oil a secret?
The morons in the "industry" are so riveted on video-on-demand services they don't realize that they've skipped a step. They're trying to invent the Television before they've perfected the Radio. Actually, I guess that should be digital television and digital radio, but whatever.
Develop Audio-On-Demand and THEN do Video-on-demand.
Clearly, the public is ready for these services. Why don't the VOD companies shift to offer AOD?
We can force them to use the latest cell technology. Useful cellular service -- my god, it'd almost like living in Europe!
I think carriers like Sprint PCS do just fine in America, considering that we have many many many more square miles of surface area to cover. They took a proven technology, started building a decent network, it's just gonna take some time to optimize the system! It's a big country with lots of end-users, after all. How big is Europe in comparison?
Slashdot Mirror
Where did you see this? Post a link!
Judging by the pock-marked surface of the moon, I'd say it's done a pretty good job of keeping us safe from asteroids so far.
the question is, can they take the crown from Nintendo?
Yeah, easy - just build a color screen you can play without a light.
And most MIS grads laugh at the CS people who shit their pants when giving public presentations, negotiating, or simply communicating with peers.
;)
That's funny, since I have a CS degree and opted for the MS CS over MIS - and regularly one up very experienced professionals in just the situations you noted above.
Yeah a lot of CS grads are wanker/slackers - but I'm daaaaaangerous
You probably just meant the wankers, right? Just agree - it'll save me the time of having to reply a 2nd time.
I will compete with and outdo (with extreme pleasure) any MIS you set before me.
You wanna talk ROI, RFC, or just DJIA? Hey, I wasn't all that interested in this business stuff in undergrad, but since everyone else seems to think it is so important I might as well blow you mediocre fucks out of the water with your only - and I mean ONLY - available means to flank someone with a CS background. Ta ta.
I locked in my first software development internship by telling the CIO:
- "I want to [someday] build a Windows compatible operating system."
During the interview I didn't know he was the CIO but I got the job.Yes, please mod it back down.
It was my mistake - I thought I saw something I didn't.
oops. You are correct.
I read that totally wrong.
It is linux. Well hey - at least it didn't say "Lindows"!
..not exactly a resounding endorsement for their OS.
Of course, NetCraft reports it as NT4 w/ Apache.
My favorite quote from the article:
Peterson was on vacation Thursday and unavailable for comment, according to his spokeswoman.
Why did I expect anything less. I can't believe they blew $400k on this. What a foolish, foolish man.
Whatever. I thought it was funny.
The "more bits" phenomenon has been sustained by improvements in VLSI and the advent of true System-on-a-chip design, but this too has its limits. If you compare a P4 motherboard with, say, a 386 mobo circa 1995
I agree, the jump from 16 to 32-bit desktop processing was anti-climactic. The hardware definitely lagged behind the processors, and the software lagged even further.
Maybe we've got it figured out by now, though?
Overclocked it to 25MHz.
Doubled the speed.
Didn't make it run any hotter.
The 286-12MHz is Bill Gates' favorite chip, afterall.
Hemos posted methanol portable fuel-cells almost a year ago to the week - made by Motorola.
My experience tells me that young people (males particularly) tend to be non-reflective and have a fair amount of trouble
MY experience tells me that old people rely on this stereotype for job security.
I'm 24, in IT, and I can definitely agree that age discrimination not only exists but it's all part of the vast corporate machine. Comments along the lines of the above (from the 30-year old) are simply justification for those who are, in fact, powerless to change things.
The system sucks, but it works. Just wonderful - now what? I gotta sit on my ass for 10 more years before my degree means anything?
Well I did some digging, and found that in the long run, as in 10-15 YEARS you are correct.
Initially, however, a CS PhD will make less than a Master's. This is most likely specific to CS, though.
Thanks for playing.
I basically already said a Master's was more important (#2758850), but I forgot to mention one important detail:
Carnegie Mellon offers a 1-year Master's program in e-Business!
Also, a PhD in Computer Science gets you LESS salary in the long run, even less than a BS.
It amazes me that this seems like a new concept to some people.
Hard work, intelligence, character, and MONEY will get you everything in this world.
Kyrex,
Well this is kind of weird, since I am also 24 and have a BS in Computer and Information Science, as well as being halfway through to a Master of Science in Software Engineering.
Let me get straight to the point: your underlying assumption is incorrect. Having a BS or BA in Computer Science will give you no more advantage than you already have! Don't get me wrong, it is an invaluable asset to me - but in my experience the main benefit of having the degree is the fact that you will come out of the institution with the ability to research and learn new languages easily - this is what they teach you after all! In the IT field, new technologies emerge annually. The degree will enable you to use these new technologies as if you were an "old hand" and had been using them for years.
In terms of salary or competitive advantage, the Master's degree will most certainly give you both a $20k salary boost and a position above the peons in most any company.
Just my $.02. Anyone else agree/disagree?
In the 70's there was an attempt to switch - it flopped.
Good luck.
Quoting Jim Allchin is fun:
Windows XP is dramatically more secure than Windows 2000 or any of the prior systems. Buffer overflow has been one of the attacks frequently used on the Internet. We have gone through all code and, in an automated way, found places where there could be buffer overflow, and those have been removed in Windows XP.
Can we translate "..in an automated way..." to: "we did a search and replace on the kernel code..."
yeah, yeah..flamebait..i know.
The TechTV article doesn't get too technical, so my natural first question is:
How does it encode the audio signal?
My second natural question is: Since the reverb pedal would alter the signal, would it violate the DMCA?
Jon, can you agree that unfiltered news could affect National Security?
If so, then I submit that even "HyperNews" is filtered.
Our Government provides us with rights unparalleled by any other society, EXCEPT in cases where National Security could be compromised. Daily Pentagon "briefings" are a prime example.
So how much do you think Exxon-Mobil would pay AOL-Time Warner to keep those 50 Billion Barrels of untapped crude oil a secret?
The morons in the "industry" are so riveted on video-on-demand services they don't realize that they've skipped a step. They're trying to invent the Television before they've perfected the Radio. Actually, I guess that should be digital television and digital radio, but whatever.
Develop Audio-On-Demand and THEN do Video-on-demand.
Clearly, the public is ready for these services. Why don't the VOD companies shift to offer AOD?
DMX, are you listening?
Step 1) The RIAA sues
Step 2) The P2P networks adapt
Step 3) Repeat until information is free.
We can force them to use the latest cell technology. Useful cellular service -- my god, it'd almost like living in Europe!
I think carriers like Sprint PCS do just fine in America, considering that we have many many many more square miles of surface area to cover. They took a proven technology, started building a decent network, it's just gonna take some time to optimize the system! It's a big country with lots of end-users, after all. How big is Europe in comparison?