Yea, what a strange thing to mod up, but it's *almost* true.
3 nines is a stretch, but
this *is* a form of a collective mind, and we are all part of it.
if you aren't seeing dissenting opinions, you havent got your settings set right. which isn't surprising considerring you're AC. Get a goddamn account, find some smart people to grab as fans, and set your moderation adjustments accordingly; I don't have a problem.
And tell me, you out there who have your own mind, if you have ever changed your mind, or thought of contradicting ideas for a time without realizing it by pointing out inconsistencies you may very well make the hive mind more consistent. Personally, I try to be part of the 'completeness' crowd, myself. Anyway, changing your mind, and doublethink *is* what these inconsistent opinions of the slashdot mind are analogous to.
And it does look like Max is new. welcome, max, to the hive. We like you, keep thinking.
( age=0x15; )
I'm not sure about your parents, sir, but my parents couldn't say, find a news item in a british newspaper on a genocide currently taking place as you read it, check out the CIA world factbook's opinion on sudan, the united nation's view on genocide, read multiple-viewpoint reports from four continents on islam, and make a point about doing so to a room half-full of a few-thousand intelligentsia who have little better to do with their time than point out any error you have made in your reasoning or research, all in a single night, all at a complete whim at no observable cost. My parents never got to interact with people within communist countries, or even have enough money to go to a university to become educated and whatnot. concequently, My parents 'don't care about poletics' like most of their generation.
I can probably point out fourty or fifty things that bush has screwed up on, and I specifically try to avoid any news critical of bush. I can only ponder what people who live in america and actually have to know about him would find, given enough time and a connection to the marvel that is the internet.
Of course there's garbage on the internet, too. but that goes without saying.
Although I must admit, my parents probably could spell a hell of a lot better than I could, at my age, and my dad definitely could get a girlfriend at the time. Am I way out on a loop here? Does this make sense?
Is this valid for other american leftist tree hugging hippie faggot communist types? I have a few friends who are considerring their options and could probably use a few extra bucks to get them over the fence. This also goes for republicrats and other fanatics, if you're really interested in 'cleansing the american race' or whatever, let me know. I'll take some money off your hands. no problem:)
but in canada, we have free trade agreements in which our local government ceeded authority to the united states, and allowed for american interests to prosecute canadians for breaking american law. Unless i misread something in the NAFTA, it is a friggin' huge document.
If australia has yet to sign this sort of agreement[unlikely], may this message be a warning to them.
seriously though, does anyone know of a "computer" above this number, active allready, and one above 360TFLop/greater performance other than the following(which isn't complete yet?): http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9584_22-966312.html
?
actually though the whole point of this post is just to point out that the grandparent is incorrect, whereas the parent is not.
ok[still grappling as to how exactly to reply to the earlier reply. it much more specifically hits at the critical point here; that systems of knowledge can be expressed as different sets of axioms, if expressable as axioms at all; and while my axioms may begin with additive inverses before subtraction, you may be able to go the other way, although I think it would be much less elegant. Stranger harmonies have erupted in mathematics than that, however... ]
a-a=0, is not totally far off. Comutativity even less so(a-a+b+a=a+b+a-a etc). I think it is weaker, because it assumes that additive inverses/negative numbers exist. if -a doesn't exist, then a-a does not equal zero, since by definition there is no a-a.
The suggestion that this is similar to proving god's existance via god's existance *in the bible* isn't really appropriate, as I do pull from two positive numbers, a negative number. Perhaps a similar argument involving god may turn out to be descartes';
nothing can be created by something less perfect than it is.
something [known as i] exists
therefor something perfect exists, [by induction].
you start the argument with not-god, and you end with god. sure there's probably plenty wrong with that argument, but it doesn't fail in the kind of way that a-a=0 does; that you can simply define a-a=0 and be done with it; but you cannot define away the sum of two cubes, at least without doing a lot of damage.
ie
1^3 + 2^3
1 + 8
9
(3)(3)
(1+2)(3)
(1+2)(1-2+4)
OK so nothing really spectacular happens on the last step here. But I think that negative numbers, in this view, become something of a property of regular, positive numbers. That they only exist insofar as relationships not between positive numbers and zero[ie, the standard a-a=0 view], but between different collections of items.
There is a ratio which is *always* upheld, whether or not negative numbers exist. but if -ab is not negative, (ie, it is some ab instead) then the numbers a and b must have been subtracted. etc.
where I think this thread will actually get interesting is here:
god exists in the bible.
therefor god exists.
It is the nature of god in which my opinion may differ with others; Whereas some believe him to be, well, whatever they believe him to be, I will suggest that god is the collection of ideas, motivations and actions of those who believe in it, much the same as I am the sum of my actions, God is practically everywhere, and the effects of god can be long reaching on an almost unimaginable scale...at least for my imagination. How can you argue against this? if you believe that god has X nature, I too believe that god has X nature, in the amount that your opinion matters. if your opinion matters greatly, for some reason, X is relatively greatly true. I say.
(actually I think I'm thinking of some other equation much like this one, but my math text and notes are in another room in this complex. oh well)
[points for anyone who knows what phi and f(n) are in this case]
I mean, you're right it does. But man, was I skeptical.
I say, that until I saw the sum of cubes I internally denied the existance of negative numbers. I mean I could work with them and all, I just didn't believe in them. If you deny the existance of negative numbers, you cannot have an expression 0-1, because -1 is meaningless, so therefor the result is meaningless. It's circular reasoning, and this is why[according to my youthful very non-standard way of thinking of things]:
there is a number -1
there is a number 0
if you have two numbers, there is a third number which represents their sum.:.
there is a number -1 + 0
if there is a number -1 + 0 there must be a class of numbers known as negative numbers
[the direction you were going in?]
but if you cannot prove there is a number -1 + 0, you cannot even get that far.
a^3+b^3 = (a+b)(a^2 - ab + b^2 ), on the other hand, shows quite clearly that no matter what numbers a and b you pick, you end up, in your equation, with a negative number.
Please tell, how exactly you were made to use GMail/Google Desktop? I think Google may turn out to be frightening someday, but for the time being they are completely optional. This being-optional will keep them straight for now. In the short run this means demanding an open source linux client for the Google Desktop. As a potential..er...source of data you should at least be able to ask for that much.
While you drive a good point,
the parent was referring to the hypothetical situation where AIDS becomes airborne.
This does in fact supply the 'extinction' element required by another parent poster in the 'software patents could cause the extinction of humanity.'
Would AIDS go away in a generation if both a) proper education and parent-children involvement and b) AIDS becomes an airborne virus in North America?
I can hardly imagine.
"Why can't people ever see the consequences of their/. proclamations? Contemplating kicking the US out of the world community? How asinine is that?"
OK let's get some things straight
1) The US addmittedly uses Torture
2) The US has declared that it will invade other countries on a whim, if it deems that they might so much as rival them as a world superpower.
3) The US funded dictator Saddam Hussain, until it was inconvinient to do so, and continue to fund similar warlords worldwide. At least, last time I checked. This might have changed.
4) The US funded terrorist Osama bin Laden, until it was inconvinient to do so, and continue to fund US-Friendly terrorists and fascist organizations worldwide. At least, last time I checked. This might have changed.
5) The US is a non-democratic regeime, unless this next election proves otherwise. And unlike iraq, the US actually *has* WMD, and WMD creation programmes.
6) In your post you even made mention to a potenial US invasion of Canada[where I'm from]. If it's worth considerring at all, the extent this distinct possibility is worth considering is also the extent that excluding the US from local solidaritas should be taken. Why deal with someone you suspect will stab you in the back?
Personally, I don't a US invasion of Canada is likely, as the US allready has their law enforced upon Canadians at this point, and there is little beyond they need toaccomplish possession of Canada.
Due to the above 6 items, and quite possibly more, it is at least worth considerring other options to the current situation. I for one am not happy to sit idle while the US causes sufferring and havoc on a global scale, and praise those who have a slightly more intelligent solution than outright violence against the states.
I think Canadians like myself should seriously reconsider NAFTA, and the extent to which our relationship with our neighbours to the south
effects us, and each and every purchase of american products.
Why the hell are these people running around blue or naked unless they realize that they can be seen? We need to wake the fuck up these people who are friends and family of these blue people, because they are the problem in this situation, ultimately; I'm sick of seeing different people catch harsh reactions from family members for being as they are. Here in Canada some people appear to be multicultural, for example, and although that does not really apply to different forms of expression beyond culture/"race",(such as painting ones self blue and running around naked), at the very least the two ideas can reinforce each other. In order for acceptance of such things as naked blue people to be widespread, more people have to be in the public's eye being both naked, and blue.
Naked blue people should be commonplace, or at least relatively commonplace, and until people conceive of naked blue people in this fashion there will be trouble, and a sort of easy-way-out towards censorship in this manner.
I am not disputing the fact that burning man has the right to censor; you've made it clear by their video recordings policy that they do have this right; I'm saying that they censor, and as a side note that censorship is wrong. whether censorship be right or wrong, however, they are engaging in it, on a big enough scale to matter.
There is never an excuse to forbid someone to publish video, especially in a major event with many people involved, with video footage where everyone involved is obviously consenting
And yes, you are perfectly free to take shower footage of me. [ oh and in case you think i'm kidding this summer at a rock concert where they were charging something like 4$ for a 15 minute shower, I showered in front of some 3-400 people.[hey i needed to go back to work showered] ] (more more porno for the people!) d:
the last 5 times i've forgotten to have coffee
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The last 5 times [at least!] which I've forgotten to have coffee in a day I've slept straight through at least one of my classes, and usually all of them. It doesn't even dawn upon me until much later where I find myself thinking
'hey wait a minute, my coffee pot is empty, and wasn't filled!'
Usually i have around a half a pot to a pot a day. I need around two cups just to get me up in the mornings to some level of coherency.
All my recent screw ups I can pin the blame on me for not drinking enough coffee in whatever day they occur on. It kind of worries me, actually; It's becoming more of a 'I have to have coffee, or I will not function with even mediocre talent' rather than a 'with smore coffee I can do better, longer, faster!.'
Which is of course, why I'll be into provigil as soon as I can get easy access to some.
(anyways, I've written many a song on the vector-meme of coffee and caffeine addiction...although none of those have been finished off, you can find some here, from my attempted album ""past tense")
there is NO situation where you should have to ask to take video or picture footage, and even if this is not the case, footage taken 'illegally' or without permission being taken down off the internet via legal threatening is censorship, and should be stopped. Sure it's blackrock LLC's legal right to do so, just as it's the RIAA's legal right to lay 6 digit figure charges against unsuspecting filetraders. There are a lot of laws that are broken and/or can be used used to harm others, and this is a good example.
both have the same effect; the suppression of ideas,expression and art.
(Although, My university has a work-term exchange program, where I may have a chance to get a job in china for a while, I'm hoping I don't get desperate enough to take it. I could really use cash right now (I am working for less than minnimum wage just barely scraping enough together to pay rent, with bills stacking up daily.) )
I lost shadows_of_ink@hotmail.com, a_lone_candle@hotmail.com and themusicgod1@hotmail.com. i gave up on hotmail, after that. which is a shame, for it was a pretty good deal before microsoft got involved.
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( age=0x15; )
I'm not sure about your parents, sir, but my parents couldn't say, find a news item in a british newspaper on a genocide currently taking place as you read it, check out the CIA world factbook's opinion on sudan, the united nation's view on genocide, read multiple-viewpoint reports from four continents on islam, and make a point about doing so to a room half-full of a few-thousand intelligentsia who have little better to do with their time than point out any error you have made in your reasoning or research, all in a single night, all at a complete whim at no observable cost. My parents never got to interact with people within communist countries, or even have enough money to go to a university to become educated and whatnot. concequently, My parents 'don't care about poletics' like most of their generation.
I can probably point out fourty or fifty things that bush has screwed up on, and I specifically try to avoid any news critical of bush. I can only ponder what people who live in america and actually have to know about him would find, given enough time and a connection to the marvel that is the internet.
Of course there's garbage on the internet, too. but that goes without saying.
Although I must admit, my parents probably could spell a hell of a lot better than I could, at my age, and my dad definitely could get a girlfriend at the time. Am I way out on a loop here? Does this make sense?
Is this valid for other american leftist tree hugging hippie faggot communist types? I have a few friends who are considerring their options and could probably use a few extra bucks to get them over the fence. This also goes for republicrats and other fanatics, if you're really interested in 'cleansing the american race' or whatever, let me know. I'll take some money off your hands. no problem :)
but in canada, we have free trade agreements in which our local government ceeded authority to the united states, and allowed for american interests to prosecute canadians for breaking american law. Unless i misread something in the NAFTA, it is a friggin' huge document.
If australia has yet to sign this sort of agreement[unlikely], may this message be a warning to them.
awesome sig, man.
seriously though, does anyone know of a "computer" above this number, active allready, and one above 360TFLop/greater performance other than the following(which isn't complete yet?): http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9584_22-966312.html ? actually though the whole point of this post is just to point out that the grandparent is incorrect, whereas the parent is not.
In case anyone is skeptical about the parent post. In fact now that I think about it, seriously, guys; the linux number isn't very high. you linux users out there should contribute. join project wool clock
x=x+1 ? or does that count as two.
ok[still grappling as to how exactly to reply to the earlier reply. it much more specifically hits at the critical point here; that systems of knowledge can be expressed as different sets of axioms, if expressable as axioms at all; and while my axioms may begin with additive inverses before subtraction, you may be able to go the other way, although I think it would be much less elegant. Stranger harmonies have erupted in mathematics than that, however... ]
a-a=0, is not totally far off. Comutativity even less so(a-a+b+a=a+b+a-a etc). I think it is weaker, because it assumes that additive inverses/negative numbers exist. if -a doesn't exist, then a-a does not equal zero, since by definition there is no a-a.
The suggestion that this is similar to proving god's existance via god's existance *in the bible* isn't really appropriate, as I do pull from two positive numbers, a negative number. Perhaps a similar argument involving god may turn out to be descartes';
nothing can be created by something less perfect than it is. something [known as i] exists therefor something perfect exists, [by induction]. you start the argument with not-god, and you end with god. sure there's probably plenty wrong with that argument, but it doesn't fail in the kind of way that a-a=0 does; that you can simply define a-a=0 and be done with it; but you cannot define away the sum of two cubes, at least without doing a lot of damage.
ie
1^3 + 2^3
1 + 8
9
(3)(3)
(1+2)(3)
(1+2)(1-2+4)
OK so nothing really spectacular happens on the last step here. But I think that negative numbers, in this view, become something of a property of regular, positive numbers. That they only exist insofar as relationships not between positive numbers and zero[ie, the standard a-a=0 view], but between different collections of items. There is a ratio which is *always* upheld, whether or not negative numbers exist. but if -ab is not negative, (ie, it is some ab instead) then the numbers a and b must have been subtracted. etc.
where I think this thread will actually get interesting is here:
god exists in the bible.
therefor god exists.
It is the nature of god in which my opinion may differ with others; Whereas some believe him to be, well, whatever they believe him to be, I will suggest that god is the collection of ideas, motivations and actions of those who believe in it, much the same as I am the sum of my actions, God is practically everywhere, and the effects of god can be long reaching on an almost unimaginable scale...at least for my imagination. How can you argue against this? if you believe that god has X nature, I too believe that god has X nature, in the amount that your opinion matters. if your opinion matters greatly, for some reason, X is relatively greatly true. I say.
damn am I ever hungry. I'm going for some KD.
why not f(n) = (phi^n-(1-phi)^n)/(sqrt(5)) ?
(actually I think I'm thinking of some other equation much like this one, but my math text and notes are in another room in this complex. oh well) [points for anyone who knows what phi and f(n) are in this case]
I mean, you're right it does. But man, was I skeptical.
:.
I say, that until I saw the sum of cubes I internally denied the existance of negative numbers. I mean I could work with them and all, I just didn't believe in them. If you deny the existance of negative numbers, you cannot have an expression 0-1, because -1 is meaningless, so therefor the result is meaningless. It's circular reasoning, and this is why[according to my youthful very non-standard way of thinking of things]:
there is a number -1
there is a number 0
if you have two numbers, there is a third number which represents their sum.
there is a number -1 + 0
if there is a number -1 + 0 there must be a class of numbers known as negative numbers
[the direction you were going in?]
but if you cannot prove there is a number -1 + 0, you cannot even get that far.
a^3+b^3 = (a+b)(a^2 - ab + b^2 ), on the other hand, shows quite clearly that no matter what numbers a and b you pick, you end up, in your equation, with a negative number.
thank you sir. for those still doubtful, check out my sig. Specifically, this section.
you suck
and also missed
but my personal favorite :)
a^3+b^3 = (a+b)(a^2-ab+b^2)
first proof, that i'd seen at least, of the existance of negative numbers.
Please tell, how exactly you were made to use GMail/Google Desktop? I think Google may turn out to be frightening someday, but for the time being they are completely optional. This being-optional will keep them straight for now. In the short run this means demanding an open source linux client for the Google Desktop. As a potential ..er...source of data you should at least be able to ask for that much.
deep..deep.deep..deep.deep
While you drive a good point, the parent was referring to the hypothetical situation where AIDS becomes airborne. This does in fact supply the 'extinction' element required by another parent poster in the 'software patents could cause the extinction of humanity.' Would AIDS go away in a generation if both a) proper education and parent-children involvement and b) AIDS becomes an airborne virus in North America? I can hardly imagine.
In case anyone hasn't seen it yet
"Why can't people ever see the consequences of their /. proclamations? Contemplating kicking the US out of the world community? How asinine is that?"
OK let's get some things straight
1) The US addmittedly uses Torture
2) The US has declared that it will invade other countries on a whim, if it deems that they might so much as rival them as a world superpower.
3) The US funded dictator Saddam Hussain, until it was inconvinient to do so, and continue to fund similar warlords worldwide. At least, last time I checked. This might have changed.
4) The US funded terrorist Osama bin Laden, until it was inconvinient to do so, and continue to fund US-Friendly terrorists and fascist organizations worldwide. At least, last time I checked. This might have changed.
5) The US is a non-democratic regeime, unless this next election proves otherwise. And unlike iraq, the US actually *has* WMD, and WMD creation programmes.
6) In your post you even made mention to a potenial US invasion of Canada[where I'm from]. If it's worth considerring at all, the extent this distinct possibility is worth considering is also the extent that excluding the US from local solidaritas should be taken. Why deal with someone you suspect will stab you in the back? Personally, I don't a US invasion of Canada is likely, as the US allready has their law enforced upon Canadians at this point, and there is little beyond they need toaccomplish possession of Canada.
Due to the above 6 items, and quite possibly more, it is at least worth considerring other options to the current situation. I for one am not happy to sit idle while the US causes sufferring and havoc on a global scale, and praise those who have a slightly more intelligent solution than outright violence against the states.
I think Canadians like myself should seriously reconsider NAFTA, and the extent to which our relationship with our neighbours to the south effects us, and each and every purchase of american products.
Why the hell are these people running around blue or naked unless they realize that they can be seen? We need to wake the fuck up these people who are friends and family of these blue people, because they are the problem in this situation, ultimately; I'm sick of seeing different people catch harsh reactions from family members for being as they are. Here in Canada some people appear to be multicultural, for example, and although that does not really apply to different forms of expression beyond culture/"race",(such as painting ones self blue and running around naked), at the very least the two ideas can reinforce each other. In order for acceptance of such things as naked blue people to be widespread, more people have to be in the public's eye being both naked, and blue. Naked blue people should be commonplace, or at least relatively commonplace, and until people conceive of naked blue people in this fashion there will be trouble, and a sort of easy-way-out towards censorship in this manner.
I am not disputing the fact that burning man has the right to censor; you've made it clear by their video recordings policy that they do have this right; I'm saying that they censor, and as a side note that censorship is wrong. whether censorship be right or wrong, however, they are engaging in it, on a big enough scale to matter.
There is never an excuse to forbid someone to publish video, especially in a major event with many people involved, with video footage where everyone involved is obviously consenting
And yes, you are perfectly free to take shower footage of me. [ oh and in case you think i'm kidding this summer at a rock concert where they were charging something like 4$ for a 15 minute shower, I showered in front of some 3-400 people.[hey i needed to go back to work showered] ] (more more porno for the people!) d:
The last 5 times [at least!] which I've forgotten to have coffee in a day I've slept straight through at least one of my classes, and usually all of them. It doesn't even dawn upon me until much later where I find myself thinking
'hey wait a minute, my coffee pot is empty, and wasn't filled!'
Usually i have around a half a pot to a pot a day. I need around two cups just to get me up in the mornings to some level of coherency. All my recent screw ups I can pin the blame on me for not drinking enough coffee in whatever day they occur on. It kind of worries me, actually; It's becoming more of a 'I have to have coffee, or I will not function with even mediocre talent' rather than a 'with smore coffee I can do better, longer, faster!.'
Which is of course, why I'll be into provigil as soon as I can get easy access to some.
(anyways, I've written many a song on the vector-meme of coffee and caffeine addiction...although none of those have been finished off, you can find some here, from my attempted album ""past tense" )
there is NO situation where you should have to ask to take video or picture footage, and even if this is not the case, footage taken 'illegally' or without permission being taken down off the internet via legal threatening is censorship, and should be stopped. Sure it's blackrock LLC's legal right to do so, just as it's the RIAA's legal right to lay 6 digit figure charges against unsuspecting filetraders. There are a lot of laws that are broken and/or can be used used to harm others, and this is a good example. both have the same effect; the suppression of ideas,expression and art.
that's sad. oh well, good to see new tech, at least.
nt.
(Although, My university has a work-term exchange program, where I may have a chance to get a job in china for a while, I'm hoping I don't get desperate enough to take it. I could really use cash right now (I am working for less than minnimum wage just barely scraping enough together to pay rent, with bills stacking up daily.) )
I lost shadows_of_ink@hotmail.com, a_lone_candle@hotmail.com and themusicgod1@hotmail.com. i gave up on hotmail, after that. which is a shame, for it was a pretty good deal before microsoft got involved.