I can agree with that. I hear waaaay more than my fair share (I work at a radio station), and I also market for national ad campaigns on other media.
The trick is to target and segment the market such that your ads are focused and aimed at the demos you are trying to reach.
For example, if/. starts to put up ads about tampons or even something like a new car or perscription drug ad or whatever, that in my opinion is poor advertising (called shotgun). But if they put up ads for techno-gadgets, laptops, the latest Linux distro, thigns that fit this demographic and psychograpic, then the advertisments are not qutie as disruptive and annoying.
I own a website with 10k members and the site is for owners of General Motors diesel trucks. The only thing we advertise on the site are items that are relevent to that specific market.
A lot of people de facto dismiss slippery slope arguments, but is valid especially when it comes to government and other human behavior that can be reviewed with history.
Those that ignore history are doomed to repeat it etc...
But as far as registrars go DirectNIC is my favorite $15 and no bullshit.
To me they are like the Google of registrars - "do no evil".
They even are based out of NOLA and had very little if any downtime during Katrina. You can read about it and see damage to their building here: http://interdictor.livejournal.com/
To me they are like the Google of registrars - "do no evil".
They even are based out of NOLA and had very little if any downtime during Katrina. You can read about it and see damage to their building here: http://interdictor.livejournal.com/
This event back in 2001 before 9/11 was shortly forgotten.
I don't know what their standing orders were, but I think they should've ditched the craft. They had to come from somewhere and there were other US forces in theater. The water wasn't cold and they had survival gear anyway.
Why would they have risked handing over military secrets to an "unofficial enemy", the same people they were spying on, and risk becoming prisoners of another state (possibly subjecting themselves to torture), and creating a HUGE international nicident?
I would've rather spent a few hours in the South China sea thank you very much.
I would like to have lived in the era of Edison and Menlo Park.
What an amazing time period.
Edison was a determined genius and a good administrator. His inventions (film, audio, electricity, light bulbs - just 3 out of 1200) are still a STAPLE in western society.
Perhaps there will be more like him in the near future. He was a true one-man revolution.
I have a minor in marketing and have been invovled in marketing in some form or another since the age of 16 (I'm 24).
There are different types of marketing, direct marketing and "top of mind" marketing.
Direct marketing is designed to generate sales or leads. Top of mind advertising, sometimes called branding, is more modest but designed to have the potential customers keep the brand or company in the top of their mind. Budweiser commercials are a good example. Seeing a Bud ad isn't going to make you go to their site and order beer, or run out to their store to buy a 6-pack. But it will keep their brand, image, and logo in the back of your mind so that next time you have a choice of beer, you will possibly try Bud.
Also, if mass marketing is dead, why are billions spent on it a year?
Now, I agree that newer, more innovative and more inventive types of advertising is coming about which I think is due to complaceny and becoming jaded at seeing so many ads all the time. Also since people are starting to interact with their media and not just sit and watch or listen to a broadcast this has forced those wanting to promote or sell to evolve their methods. That is called progress.
And you are right, next to PR (un-paid for publicity from a reputiable source), word-of-muoth advertising is the best you can get bar none.
My point in my original post was that even though you might can get an 8Mbit up and down in France for $40/month (USD), I am willing to bet that the reason it is that low is due to governmental subsidies, and common infastructure. In other words, the reason it is so cheap is because half of it was paid for by the massive taxes they pay over there.
I bet that if the tax cost was added to the service it probably wouldn't look so great as compared to the US.
... the state where 2 million people were stupid enough to continue living below sea level in a hurricane zone, complained when they got hit and flooded, and then want to move back to do it all over again.
Yeah - there are some real geniuses coming from this place *rolls eyes*
Well, first off Al absolutely had representation during signing. No record label would ever allow an artist to sign without legal representation because of potential 'ethics' issues etc.
The problem is that this contract couldve been signed 5-10 years ago way before iTunes was on the horizon and while the industry still considered digital distribution to be a form of piracy.
Also, most contracts have portions that are generally non-negotiable unless the artist has considerable weight (Greenday, Elton John, U2, Stones, etc). The older and bigger an artist gets the more power they have to negotiate specifics of their contract, but more often than not it is a give and take issue and apparently Al and his attorney "gave" on this specific clause.
For established artists (+4 albums) this might be the case. Their fanbase is such that it might indeed allow them to do that sort of thing.
Record co's these days really allow the artist promotion and exposure which can't really be provided on one's on in his house on his computer (although the recorded product can).
That being said, if an artist can get investors and/or has capital to invest in promotion/marketing, it is possible for them to be successful on their own, but not very likely. It's impossible to get on radio without big money, it's impossible to get on big tours without money (or clout), it's impossible to get in magazines and on TV or other press etc without big money (or clout). The record co's have all of this and the ability to break new artists due to their deep pockets and longstanding connections.
Their function isn't completely dead, but it is definitely being altered by external market forces such as amateur distribution, MySpace, iTunes, and inexpensive recording equipment.
Finally, someone on/. used the phrase "stealing the copyright" in the correct and appropriate context.*
Mod parent up!
* (although technically the artist has to agree to transfer of copyright, but the right (to exploitation) itself is actually being exchanged instead of simply being infringed upon.
I can't believe it. No Uranus joke anywhere in this thread?
We'll all be carrying AR-15s and have mortor rounds buried somewhere on our property.
Yes surely there has to be a Beowulf Cluster/In Soviet Russia/1, 2, 3-Profit!!! joke in here somewhere....
...'broadcast fag sneaking in the backdoor"?!?!?!
:-(
All of the sudden I had horrid visions of Lifetime Networks creating a channel rebroadcasting 'Queer Eye for the Straight Guy' 24 hours a day!
They've been pulling these types of shennanagins for years.
How is this news?
What do you call the flight deck of an aircraft with 2 male pilots?
;-)
A cockpit.
What do you call the flight deck of an aircraft with 2 female pilots?
A box office.
...oh wait, nevermind.
I can agree with that. I hear waaaay more than my fair share (I work at a radio station), and I also market for national ad campaigns on other media.
/. starts to put up ads about tampons or even something like a new car or perscription drug ad or whatever, that in my opinion is poor advertising (called shotgun). But if they put up ads for techno-gadgets, laptops, the latest Linux distro, thigns that fit this demographic and psychograpic, then the advertisments are not qutie as disruptive and annoying.
The trick is to target and segment the market such that your ads are focused and aimed at the demos you are trying to reach.
For example, if
I own a website with 10k members and the site is for owners of General Motors diesel trucks. The only thing we advertise on the site are items that are relevent to that specific market.
is indeed valid IMO.
A lot of people de facto dismiss slippery slope arguments, but is valid especially when it comes to government and other human behavior that can be reviewed with history.
Those that ignore history are doomed to repeat it etc...
But as far as registrars go DirectNIC is my favorite
$15 and no bullshit.
To me they are like the Google of registrars - "do no evil".
They even are based out of NOLA and had very little if any downtime during Katrina. You can read about it and see damage to their building here:
http://interdictor.livejournal.com/
...by far is DirectNIC.
$15 and no bullshit.
To me they are like the Google of registrars - "do no evil".
They even are based out of NOLA and had very little if any downtime during Katrina. You can read about it and see damage to their building here:
http://interdictor.livejournal.com/
This event back in 2001 before 9/11 was shortly forgotten.
I don't know what their standing orders were, but I think they should've ditched the craft. They had to come from somewhere and there were other US forces in theater. The water wasn't cold and they had survival gear anyway.
Why would they have risked handing over military secrets to an "unofficial enemy", the same people they were spying on, and risk becoming prisoners of another state (possibly subjecting themselves to torture), and creating a HUGE international nicident?
I would've rather spent a few hours in the South China sea thank you very much.
I would like to have lived in the era of Edison and Menlo Park.
What an amazing time period.
Edison was a determined genius and a good administrator. His inventions (film, audio, electricity, light bulbs - just 3 out of 1200) are still a STAPLE in western society.
Perhaps there will be more like him in the near future. He was a true one-man revolution.
... I will tell you that it isn't dead.
I have a minor in marketing and have been invovled in marketing in some form or another since the age of 16 (I'm 24).
There are different types of marketing, direct marketing and "top of mind" marketing.
Direct marketing is designed to generate sales or leads. Top of mind advertising, sometimes called branding, is more modest but designed to have the potential customers keep the brand or company in the top of their mind. Budweiser commercials are a good example. Seeing a Bud ad isn't going to make you go to their site and order beer, or run out to their store to buy a 6-pack. But it will keep their brand, image, and logo in the back of your mind so that next time you have a choice of beer, you will possibly try Bud.
Also, if mass marketing is dead, why are billions spent on it a year?
Now, I agree that newer, more innovative and more inventive types of advertising is coming about which I think is due to complaceny and becoming jaded at seeing so many ads all the time. Also since people are starting to interact with their media and not just sit and watch or listen to a broadcast this has forced those wanting to promote or sell to evolve their methods. That is called progress.
And you are right, next to PR (un-paid for publicity from a reputiable source), word-of-muoth advertising is the best you can get bar none.
My point in my original post was that even though you might can get an 8Mbit up and down in France for $40/month (USD), I am willing to bet that the reason it is that low is due to governmental subsidies, and common infastructure. In other words, the reason it is so cheap is because half of it was paid for by the massive taxes they pay over there.
I bet that if the tax cost was added to the service it probably wouldn't look so great as compared to the US.
Why can't people understand this!?!?!
There is NO identity theft. It is all identity FRAUD. F-R-A-U-D!
It's the same copyright theft vs copyright infringment argument.
Geeze people are retarded.
... the state where 2 million people were stupid enough to continue living below sea level in a hurricane zone, complained when they got hit and flooded, and then want to move back to do it all over again.
Yeah - there are some real geniuses coming from this place *rolls eyes*
Their services might be "cheaper" but how much in real dollars is an average wage earner taxed vs the US?
Socialism is socialism.
Exactly what is the legal/Constitutional basis for this?
If someone could spell this out with a straight face I'd be surprised.
And Ross was one of the best candidates we have had in this country in years, perhaps decades.
When I was in college I worked at Blockbuster Video.
One of the most shoplifted games was "GTA". In fact in one of our stores they had to keep all the games behind the counter.
Imagine that, a game about theft being the most stolen item in the store! HA! Ohh the irony.
...government searches you!
Well, first off Al absolutely had representation during signing. No record label would ever allow an artist to sign without legal representation because of potential 'ethics' issues etc.
The problem is that this contract couldve been signed 5-10 years ago way before iTunes was on the horizon and while the industry still considered digital distribution to be a form of piracy.
Also, most contracts have portions that are generally non-negotiable unless the artist has considerable weight (Greenday, Elton John, U2, Stones, etc). The older and bigger an artist gets the more power they have to negotiate specifics of their contract, but more often than not it is a give and take issue and apparently Al and his attorney "gave" on this specific clause.
For established artists (+4 albums) this might be the case. Their fanbase is such that it might indeed allow them to do that sort of thing.
Record co's these days really allow the artist promotion and exposure which can't really be provided on one's on in his house on his computer (although the recorded product can).
That being said, if an artist can get investors and/or has capital to invest in promotion/marketing, it is possible for them to be successful on their own, but not very likely. It's impossible to get on radio without big money, it's impossible to get on big tours without money (or clout), it's impossible to get in magazines and on TV or other press etc without big money (or clout). The record co's have all of this and the ability to break new artists due to their deep pockets and longstanding connections.
Their function isn't completely dead, but it is definitely being altered by external market forces such as amateur distribution, MySpace, iTunes, and inexpensive recording equipment.
I know of many many many wesbites of electronic music producers who group together and do this very sort of thing.
Finally, someone on /. used the phrase "stealing the copyright" in the correct and appropriate context.*
Mod parent up!
* (although technically the artist has to agree to transfer of copyright, but the right (to exploitation) itself is actually being exchanged instead of simply being infringed upon.