Ninety percent of all Nexus 5X and 6P phones have already bootlooped. There is no point in supporting the tiny community of Nexus users whose phones still work,
Yep just like my laptop. And just like every* desktop PC from the 80s to the mid 00s.
I disagree on that. If you bought a decent (say 1000 dollar) laptop in 2012, it probably would have a 1080p screen, discrete graphics, and a decent CPU (probably quad-core). I got a couple of such desktop replacement laptops and they remain incredibly useful. On a laptop you can still upgrade storage and RAM.
A 1000 dollar smartphone will basically become a fancy brick in 3-4 years, assuming you don't drop it earlier or run one through a washing machine. This specially applies to android phones which receive only two years of updates, at most, and become unprotected from current security threats pretty fast.
That's why I personally just get 200-250 dollar Moto G or Honor phone now and then. They come with good screens and cameras, and will have more power than what most people need to open their gmail or facebook.
Hmm.. right. I guess I am going to have to trade my S8 for the S9 because of this. And what about the CPU? Has anyone really cared about the CPU performance since say the 2016 Snapdragon 820. If the companies continued selling the phones with the old Snapdragon 800 from 2013, I bet most people would still feel fine with these. For goshs sake, 99 percent of the time you just use the thing for texting, email, and web browsing.
That's why I have been spending 300 bucks tops on a new phone. I think companies like Lenovo and Huawei have started putting out on the market actually pretty decent cheap phones since about 2016 (Moto G4 Plus, Moto G5 plus, Honor 6x, Honor 7x, etc). I was able to buy Honor 8 for under 300USD 1.5 years ago. These phones basically do everything the "flagship" phones do for just one half or one third of the price. Unless you _really_ need to mine bitcoins on your smartphone, and launch Firefox with 45 open tabs, any smartphone will do. Even on 3GB of RAM is just fine. I haven't seen a 3GB RAM phone run into any performance issues because of its RAM in the real world.
As for people chasing the "best cameraphone" and even willing to pay 800USD for this phone, let me remind them that their phone camera is still utter crap. Go buy yourself a cheap pocket camera from bestbuy, and it's going to be 20 times better than a phone camera.
Yeah right. We have been hearing, relax, next week all of the truth will come out, FOR 14 MONTHS now.
Clearly by now, neither of the three letter agencies nor Mueller have any real evidence about alleged Trump campaigns and Russia's collusion. If there was any, it would have come out 8 minutes after it was discovered.
What's Mueller going to do next? Indict Russian government, Putin, Kadyrov? This joke of the indictments is simply meant to keep the investigation going into 2019 at which point the dems hope they will control the congress, and then.. who knows. I am gonna laugh when this doesn't work and that those who go to jail will be the former department of justice and FBI officials who colluded against Trump,
At this point, I just figure that anyone who posts idiocy about the Russians not hacking the US is either a Russian shill or one of their dupes.
Really? You have already seen the proof that Russians hacked the DNC server, or that they leaked the DNC emails? I haven't seen any. Nothing but allegations. The DNC did not even allow FBI to investigate the break in.
I'll take the CIA, FBI, and NSA's word
Is this the same CIA that was telling us about Saddam's WMD, and the same CIA that was telling us it was not torturing people when it in fact did? The same FBI that used a fake dossier to bug Trump's campaign members? The same FBI that devilishly took Hillary Clinton's side in the election? The same NSA that illegally spied on all Americans?
Americans have gone collectively mad after the last election. For decades, the three letter agencies were some of the least trusted government entities by the average folks, but now that the liberals are butthurt from the 2016 election, suddenly everyone starts to love and trust those. mookay
The technology will inevitably make it so that people have no privacy or secrets whatsoever. The technology will soon allow every member of the society to know the location and activities or every other member. Everyone will know others' secrets, and then there will be no secrets between the humans, except those in their thoughts.
The next logical step is that we either adopt telepathic theology or evolve to become a race of telepaths, that like in the Star Trek.
I use a 3 year old tablet as a portable TV screen. As long as Netflix and Uverse apps continue working, I see no reason to replace it.
The corporations have already got the memo that tablet market is not growing. Samsung used to be the most aggressive Android tablet vendor often selling three or for tablet lines at once. Now they offer only two tablet models and take forever to update them. Other vendors have either abandoned tablets or slowed down the release cycle.
The tablet's keyboard is terrible. It bends and has a cheap feel. The pro is bad "laptop" because it can't stand without the rear extension, and it's very unstable on the laps. As a tablet, the Pro remains pretty poor. For one, it's too heavy and thick to hold in hands, and the number of tablet-centric apps is poor.
Have you actually tried to use this thing on your laps? The screen can't stand without the rear extension, but it remains fairly unstable on laps. The keyboard bends and feels like it was made from recycled Walmart plastics.
The device cannot be a good tablet because it is thick and heavy. It's just not very comfortable to hold in hand, and there isn't a whole lot of tablet-centric Windows apps out there.
Thing thing is a bad laptop and a bad tablet. Most of surface users would have done better if they bought a Lenovo Yoga laptop.
If they sell refurbished iPhone 7 for significantly lower price than 8, then what's the point of buying an iPhone 8? I mean seriously, for almost all intents and purposes, the iPhone 6 through 8 are the same phone. If I had an iPhone 6s I don't know why I'd want to upgrade to either 7 or 8 if it wasn't for recently discovered battery issues (I admit, the plain 6 is kind long in the tooth because it has only one 1GB of RAM).
LG G2 (poor GPS reception, screen developed dead touch spots), LG G3 (speaker stopped working, charger stopped working), LG G3 (radio stopped working), LG Nexus 5X (bootloop).
Never again!
Besides, LG phones use some of the most bloated and hideous ROMs out there (not the case with google nexus), the most bloated, and those sold in USA usually locked to one carrier, and with locked bootloaders.
Like a large vitamin? Have you even seen a vitamin 1cm in diameter? If this is what you call a "large" vitamin, call me when they make a device the size of a regular vitamin.
The HiSicon Kirin SoCs are basically flagship level. They pretty much match the top Qualcomm SoCs in terms of CPU performance, but lose a bit in terms of GPU (who cares anyways?). As for Huawei Mate series, these are pretty much flagship level smartphones. The year old Mate 9 is a great phone even today, and the greatest thing is that it was not attached to any carrier (I avoid carried branded phones like a plague).
To be honest, nearly every 2015 Android smartphone was garbage thanks to those Snapdragon 808/810 SoCs which were using those garbage A57 cores. Anandtech did a test that showed that most of 2015 phones throttled their "fast" A57 cores within seconds, and then switched to the efficient but slow A54 cores. You experience with Nexus 6P may have been bad, but I can guarantee that the experience of LG Nexus 5X users was a lot worse (draconian CPU throttling, poor multitasking, and destined to eventually bootloop).
Indeed, its entirely cultural. Americans apparently want to pay premium prices only for those smartphones that are locked to one carrier, feature the carrier logo on the back cover and on the boot screen (see, we have brand loyalty, to our carrier), and which even in their unlocked state have no support for radio bands to use the device efficiently with any other carrier. We also love having long waiting times for OTA ROM updates, and we like having dozens upon dozens of apps and services that the carrier built into the ROM and which are impossible to uninstall. These phones are just great. So why would I want to walk into Best Buy and buy something like Huawei Mate 9 without any of those carrier "benefits". No wonder Mate 9, while having flagship class hardware does not sell well, even though now normally priced 400-500USD.
Big cities install monorail to make an sort of an urban architecture/style statement rather than something that people need or something that can pay off for itself (Look at us, we can spend a billion dollars on a useless but very pretty monorail).
This reminds me that useless half billion dollar 3-mile monorail connection from the Oakland BART station to the Oakland airport. For decades, the AirBART bus ferried people between those destinations incredibly cheaply (just 2USD) and very fast, 24 hours a day. It had to be replaced with a half billion dollar monorail, why? To be cheaper? To go faster? No.
This tablet was released TWO YEARS ago. Since then there were several replacement available, but none from Google (Galaxy Tab S3, Huawei Mediapad M3, etc)
After discontinuing sales of Windows 7 licenses, blocking Windows 7 (and 8 updates) on 7th generation Core CPUs, and forcing malicious upgrades from 7 to 10 without user's consent, Windows 10 is finally starting to surpass 7. I can't believe this was possible.
And the funny thing is Putin, who according to western sources is some kind of authoritarian anti-American devil incarnate, was basically appointed by allegedly pro-western "reformer" Yeltsin. Most Russians don't recall Yeltsin's name without cussing.
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Ninety percent of all Nexus 5X and 6P phones have already bootlooped. There is no point in supporting the tiny community of Nexus users whose phones still work,
Yep just like my laptop. And just like every* desktop PC from the 80s to the mid 00s.
I disagree on that. If you bought a decent (say 1000 dollar) laptop in 2012, it probably would have a 1080p screen, discrete graphics, and a decent CPU (probably quad-core). I got a couple of such desktop replacement laptops and they remain incredibly useful. On a laptop you can still upgrade storage and RAM.
A 1000 dollar smartphone will basically become a fancy brick in 3-4 years, assuming you don't drop it earlier or run one through a washing machine. This specially applies to android phones which receive only two years of updates, at most, and become unprotected from current security threats pretty fast.
That's why I personally just get 200-250 dollar Moto G or Honor phone now and then. They come with good screens and cameras, and will have more power than what most people need to open their gmail or facebook.
Hmm.. right. I guess I am going to have to trade my S8 for the S9 because of this. And what about the CPU? Has anyone really cared about the CPU performance since say the 2016 Snapdragon 820. If the companies continued selling the phones with the old Snapdragon 800 from 2013, I bet most people would still feel fine with these. For goshs sake, 99 percent of the time you just use the thing for texting, email, and web browsing.
That's why I have been spending 300 bucks tops on a new phone. I think companies like Lenovo and Huawei have started putting out on the market actually pretty decent cheap phones since about 2016 (Moto G4 Plus, Moto G5 plus, Honor 6x, Honor 7x, etc). I was able to buy Honor 8 for under 300USD 1.5 years ago. These phones basically do everything the "flagship" phones do for just one half or one third of the price. Unless you _really_ need to mine bitcoins on your smartphone, and launch Firefox with 45 open tabs, any smartphone will do. Even on 3GB of RAM is just fine. I haven't seen a 3GB RAM phone run into any performance issues because of its RAM in the real world.
As for people chasing the "best cameraphone" and even willing to pay 800USD for this phone, let me remind them that their phone camera is still utter crap. Go buy yourself a cheap pocket camera from bestbuy, and it's going to be 20 times better than a phone camera.
Yeah right. We have been hearing, relax, next week all of the truth will come out, FOR 14 MONTHS now.
Clearly by now, neither of the three letter agencies nor Mueller have any real evidence about alleged Trump campaigns and Russia's collusion. If there was any, it would have come out 8 minutes after it was discovered.
What's Mueller going to do next? Indict Russian government, Putin, Kadyrov? This joke of the indictments is simply meant to keep the investigation going into 2019 at which point the dems hope they will control the congress, and then.. who knows. I am gonna laugh when this doesn't work and that those who go to jail will be the former department of justice and FBI officials who colluded against Trump,
At this point, I just figure that anyone who posts idiocy about the Russians not hacking the US is either a Russian shill or one of their dupes.
Really? You have already seen the proof that Russians hacked the DNC server, or that they leaked the DNC emails? I haven't seen any. Nothing but allegations. The DNC did not even allow FBI to investigate the break in.
I'll take the CIA, FBI, and NSA's word
Is this the same CIA that was telling us about Saddam's WMD, and the same CIA that was telling us it was not torturing people when it in fact did? The same FBI that used a fake dossier to bug Trump's campaign members? The same FBI that devilishly took Hillary Clinton's side in the election? The same NSA that illegally spied on all Americans?
Americans have gone collectively mad after the last election. For decades, the three letter agencies were some of the least trusted government entities by the average folks, but now that the liberals are butthurt from the 2016 election, suddenly everyone starts to love and trust those. mookay
The technology will inevitably make it so that people have no privacy or secrets whatsoever. The technology will soon allow every member of the society to know the location and activities or every other member. Everyone will know others' secrets, and then there will be no secrets between the humans, except those in their thoughts.
The next logical step is that we either adopt telepathic theology or evolve to become a race of telepaths, that like in the Star Trek.
I use a 3 year old tablet as a portable TV screen. As long as Netflix and Uverse apps continue working, I see no reason to replace it.
The corporations have already got the memo that tablet market is not growing. Samsung used to be the most aggressive Android tablet vendor often selling three or for tablet lines at once. Now they offer only two tablet models and take forever to update them. Other vendors have either abandoned tablets or slowed down the release cycle.
There is nothing new to see here folks.
The tablet's keyboard is terrible. It bends and has a cheap feel. The pro is bad "laptop" because it can't stand without the rear extension, and it's very unstable on the laps. As a tablet, the Pro remains pretty poor. For one, it's too heavy and thick to hold in hands, and the number of tablet-centric apps is poor.
It's neither good, nor a laptop.
Have you actually tried to use this thing on your laps? The screen can't stand without the rear extension, but it remains fairly unstable on laps. The keyboard bends and feels like it was made from recycled Walmart plastics.
The device cannot be a good tablet because it is thick and heavy. It's just not very comfortable to hold in hand, and there isn't a whole lot of tablet-centric Windows apps out there.
Thing thing is a bad laptop and a bad tablet. Most of surface users would have done better if they bought a Lenovo Yoga laptop.
If they sell refurbished iPhone 7 for significantly lower price than 8, then what's the point of buying an iPhone 8? I mean seriously, for almost all intents and purposes, the iPhone 6 through 8 are the same phone. If I had an iPhone 6s I don't know why I'd want to upgrade to either 7 or 8 if it wasn't for recently discovered battery issues (I admit, the plain 6 is kind long in the tooth because it has only one 1GB of RAM).
LG G2 (poor GPS reception, screen developed dead touch spots), LG G3 (speaker stopped working, charger stopped working), LG G3 (radio stopped working), LG Nexus 5X (bootloop).
Never again!
Besides, LG phones use some of the most bloated and hideous ROMs out there (not the case with google nexus), the most bloated, and those sold in USA usually locked to one carrier, and with locked bootloaders.
It was great while it lasted. I am very proud to have used it all these decades, but now it is time to move on.
They actually took time to make an announcement? What a joke.
Like a large vitamin? Have you even seen a vitamin 1cm in diameter? If this is what you call a "large" vitamin, call me when they make a device the size of a regular vitamin.
The HiSicon Kirin SoCs are basically flagship level. They pretty much match the top Qualcomm SoCs in terms of CPU performance, but lose a bit in terms of GPU (who cares anyways?). As for Huawei Mate series, these are pretty much flagship level smartphones. The year old Mate 9 is a great phone even today, and the greatest thing is that it was not attached to any carrier (I avoid carried branded phones like a plague).
https://www.anandtech.com/show...
To be honest, nearly every 2015 Android smartphone was garbage thanks to those Snapdragon 808/810 SoCs which were using those garbage A57 cores. Anandtech did a test that showed that most of 2015 phones throttled their "fast" A57 cores within seconds, and then switched to the efficient but slow A54 cores. You experience with Nexus 6P may have been bad, but I can guarantee that the experience of LG Nexus 5X users was a lot worse (draconian CPU throttling, poor multitasking, and destined to eventually bootloop).
Indeed, its entirely cultural. Americans apparently want to pay premium prices only for those smartphones that are locked to one carrier, feature the carrier logo on the back cover and on the boot screen (see, we have brand loyalty, to our carrier), and which even in their unlocked state have no support for radio bands to use the device efficiently with any other carrier. We also love having long waiting times for OTA ROM updates, and we like having dozens upon dozens of apps and services that the carrier built into the ROM and which are impossible to uninstall. These phones are just great. So why would I want to walk into Best Buy and buy something like Huawei Mate 9 without any of those carrier "benefits". No wonder Mate 9, while having flagship class hardware does not sell well, even though now normally priced 400-500USD.
Big cities install monorail to make an sort of an urban architecture/style statement rather than something that people need or something that can pay off for itself (Look at us, we can spend a billion dollars on a useless but very pretty monorail).
This reminds me that useless half billion dollar 3-mile monorail connection from the Oakland BART station to the Oakland airport. For decades, the AirBART bus ferried people between those destinations incredibly cheaply (just 2USD) and very fast, 24 hours a day. It had to be replaced with a half billion dollar monorail, why? To be cheaper? To go faster? No.
Don't forget:
4a) Pointless, useless sequels and prequels to what was originally a decent film.
Nothing to see here.
This tablet was released TWO YEARS ago. Since then there were several replacement available, but none from Google (Galaxy Tab S3, Huawei Mediapad M3, etc)
After discontinuing sales of Windows 7 licenses, blocking Windows 7 (and 8 updates) on 7th generation Core CPUs, and forcing malicious upgrades from 7 to 10 without user's consent, Windows 10 is finally starting to surpass 7. I can't believe this was possible.
And the funny thing is Putin, who according to western sources is some kind of authoritarian anti-American devil incarnate, was basically appointed by allegedly pro-western "reformer" Yeltsin. Most Russians don't recall Yeltsin's name without cussing.