Or, one could simply choose to take the opposite tack, as the Amish did in their case, and choose to forgive. Perpetuated anger is one of the contributory factors to the current world mess.
Fair enough. I made a generalization based on a tiny fragment of a story.
Don't make this a "people who like government are entitled pricks."
Look: you need government. Unless you want to live an Amish-style, existence, you've got to manage the complexity.
Keeping it dispassionate, the discussion is one of refactoring. How much management code do you want/require in your government to run things? I'm coming in from the "less is more" angle, but YMMV.
After the verdict, Anthony's mother, Gee Walker, said she
was satisfied by the sentence and did not accept a written apology
Martin had sent her.
Contrast with the reaction to five brutal murders, another five variously wounded, and a suicide:
http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=1469562006
Several Amish interviewed by Reuters said they were sad but not angry
and emphasized the need for forgiveness of gunman Charles Carl
Roberts, who as a non-Amish person was what the locals refer to as
"English."
"It's just not the way we think. There is no sense in getting angry,"
said Henry Fisher, 62, a retired farmer with five grown children and
33 grandchildren who has lived all his life in the town some 60 miles
(100 km) west of Philadelphia.
In the former case, some choose to place their faith in the government
and legal system, and draw satisfaction at three years incarceration
for ignorant speech, at the risk of social fragmentation.
I think the Amish community would have simply shunned such a
foul-mouthed fool, without putting money into lawyer's pockets, or
wasting real estate on a prison.
Yeah, I looked at the wikipedia page on pi and realized that it would be just as challenging to carry out a power series expansion as to do rote memorization.
Unless he has some heretofore undisclosed pi-fu that we just don't know about.
Maybe he used XML or something...;)
What if he's just doing the old divide-multiply-subtract-bringDown pattern as he goes?
Then it's more of an endurance test that a memory test.
Not to take anything away from the accomplishment, mind.
Thus was born the Extented TLA, or ETLA.
Some people trying for a DOD contract took the ETLA and made it Joint, resulting in a JETLA.
Inflation came along, and we needed to manage JETLAs via a Group key.
Feelings of JETLAG came as no surprise.
Disagree. TdR is acting as prosecutor in the court of public opinion.
Conviction at the cash register could positively affect other notorious outfits like ATI and nVidia.
I rather prefer TdR's "don't be a jerk" campaign to RMS's "your thinking is false: I shake my fist at you and call you 'unethical'" approach.
Possibly more a stylistic difference than anything else, but technical folks seem to make screechy evangelists, and do better to cleave to the pragmatic angle.
Oh, so "exit polls" is where the snake oil salesmen have set up shop?
How do we satisfy ourselves they are valid? Have all major constituencies conduct their own? Do we then publish a false exit poll to muddy the water when we dislike the will of the people as expressed?
OMG, what a nightmarish thought! A second Potomac Puzzle Palace, adjacent the first?
That much bureaucratic inertia could slow Earth's rotation and really tear up the weather.
Agreed, but the general pattern of attempting to blame external influences for aberrant behavior represents a disturbing and increasing trend:
1. Establish that the perpetrator is, in fact, a victim.
2. Empower government to enact legislation, or, better still, a full-on program, to "correct" victimization manufactured in step 1.
3. ????
4. Profit.
The moral of this story is "don't feed the sharks".
The interview process is likely where they filter out the non-self-starters who would fail to appreciate this apparent "tenure" approach.
Consider the government as an extreme counter-example.
The word TFA fails to use: leadership.
Someone who knew something of the subject, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Stockdale described five roles for a leader:
moralist
jurist
philosopher
steward
teacher
Note the lack of "programs, process, policy, procedure, and paperwork" in the list.
While Google may let people shift teams at will, I would be unsurprised to discover that shifts are infrequent.
Furthermore, by the time people start to abuse the culture, I would be unsurprised to discover that the culture ushes them to the door.
Have any of the major headz they've hired actually departed the big G?
That's why I like the maritime approach to these sorts of things.
If you want to be called "Captain" that bad, and something goes wrong, you know that the buck will stop with you.
Somewhere in our slouching trek towards Gomorrah, we've gotten sufficiently post-modern that concepts such as "responsibility" are just another mutable social construct. "I dont feel guilty..."
Thanks for the correction, you're spot on.
As for your criticism of the intended analogy, you're focusing on the physical aspects, whereas I'm more concerned with the shift of control of information (specifically about how to write code) from an elite few to something that the common folk can work with.
It sounds good, but it's not like Microsoft is going to suffer a lot for this.
Violently disagree.
FOSS is to the Information Age as the printing press was the the Enlightenment.
The realization in the public, business, and private sectors that we really don't need to fork over sizeable money for the Same Fscking Codebase They've Been Reselling For Years[1] is truly liberating, and could well lead to increased innovation, as more eloquently detailed by Moglen: http://www.redhat.com/magazine/020jun06/features/v ideo_moglen/
Keep in mind that the we're talking specifically of software patents here.
Drug and hardware patents are also problematic, but the reform had better be well considered, or the cure could be worse than the disease. The specific case of software, however, is one where we can eschew playing without destabilizing the economy too readily.
Will someone in England please weigh in on whether it is ironic that MS is in trouble in the EU over free use of PDF, whereas MS engaged in pretty much the opposite behavior in MA over ODF?
This corporate behavior is not a bug; it's a feature.
When the relatives call you, all furious at having been swindled by proprietary vendors, you say, "Hey, nobody ever got fired for buying from <vendor>, but they certainly had a blood pressure increase."
There is plenty of material on freedom available. The challenge is to get people to experience the freedom. DRM is AOK as a TLA motivator.
He says he may eventually pursue law school as a part-time student in hopes of becoming a patent lawyer.
Elaborating his ambitions in greater detail, Banh went on to discuss his dream of combining physics, copyright-, patent- and trademark-law into a Grand Unified Intellectual Property Field Theory, dramatically reforming the system into a black hole that doesn't suck.
Nupedia was the Newton.
Now that Wikipedia has put the PDA market in the palm of everyone's hand,
someone with clout can come along and try to make it a trio of products.
Slashdot Mirror
For the cost of a diplomatically obnoxious neighbor, China gets:
- A nice buffer state to insulate China from all that bad, bad capital in SK and Japan
- A government so backwards as to make the Beijing regime "no' so bad" in comparison
If China would just work a little harder at empathizing with NK, it could almost be Anderson Cooper.Urinalysis for all my friends!
Or, one could simply choose to take the opposite tack, as the Amish did in their case, and choose to forgive. Perpetuated anger is one of the contributory factors to the current world mess.
Look: you need government. Unless you want to live an Amish-style, existence, you've got to manage the complexity.
Keeping it dispassionate, the discussion is one of refactoring. How much management code do you want/require in your government to run things? I'm coming in from the "less is more" angle, but YMMV.
In the former case, some choose to place their faith in the government and legal system, and draw satisfaction at three years incarceration for ignorant speech, at the risk of social fragmentation.
I think the Amish community would have simply shunned such a foul-mouthed fool, without putting money into lawyer's pockets, or wasting real estate on a prison.
Social progress.
Yeah, I looked at the wikipedia page on pi and realized that it would be just as challenging to carry out a power series expansion as to do rote memorization. ;)
Unless he has some heretofore undisclosed pi-fu that we just don't know about.
Maybe he used XML or something...
Reciting the digits of pi by running a calculation in his head.
What if he's just doing the old divide-multiply-subtract-bringDown pattern as he goes?
Then it's more of an endurance test that a memory test.
Not to take anything away from the accomplishment, mind.
Some people trying for a DOD contract took the ETLA and made it Joint, resulting in a JETLA.
Inflation came along, and we needed to manage JETLAs via a Group key.
Feelings of JETLAG came as no surprise.
Disagree. TdR is acting as prosecutor in the court of public opinion.
Conviction at the cash register could positively affect other notorious outfits like ATI and nVidia.
I rather prefer TdR's "don't be a jerk" campaign to RMS's "your thinking is false: I shake my fist at you and call you 'unethical'" approach.
Possibly more a stylistic difference than anything else, but technical folks seem to make screechy evangelists, and do better to cleave to the pragmatic angle.
Oh, so "exit polls" is where the snake oil salesmen have set up shop?
How do we satisfy ourselves they are valid? Have all major constituencies conduct their own? Do we then publish a false exit poll to muddy the water when we dislike the will of the people as expressed?
There is no un-riggable system under the sun.
OMG, what a nightmarish thought! A second Potomac Puzzle Palace, adjacent the first?
That much bureaucratic inertia could slow Earth's rotation and really tear up the weather.
1. Establish that the perpetrator is, in fact, a victim.
2. Empower government to enact legislation, or, better still, a full-on program, to "correct" victimization manufactured in step 1.
3. ????
4. Profit.
The moral of this story is "don't feed the sharks".
Consider the government as an extreme counter-example.
The word TFA fails to use: leadership.
Someone who knew something of the subject, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Stockdale described five roles for a leader:
- moralist
- jurist
- philosopher
- steward
- teacher
Note the lack of "programs, process, policy, procedure, and paperwork" in the list.While Google may let people shift teams at will, I would be unsurprised to discover that shifts are infrequent.
Furthermore, by the time people start to abuse the culture, I would be unsurprised to discover that the culture ushes them to the door.
Have any of the major headz they've hired actually departed the big G?
Unladen, or Osama bin-Laden?
That's why I like the maritime approach to these sorts of things.
If you want to be called "Captain" that bad, and something goes wrong, you know that the buck will stop with you.
Somewhere in our slouching trek towards Gomorrah, we've gotten sufficiently post-modern that concepts such as "responsibility" are just another mutable social construct. "I dont feel guilty..."
Thanks for the correction, you're spot on.
As for your criticism of the intended analogy, you're focusing on the physical aspects, whereas I'm more concerned with the shift of control of information (specifically about how to write code) from an elite few to something that the common folk can work with.
FOSS is to the Information Age as the printing press was the the Enlightenment.
The realization in the public, business, and private sectors that we really don't need to fork over sizeable money for the Same Fscking Codebase They've Been Reselling For Years[1] is truly liberating, and could well lead to increased innovation, as more eloquently detailed by Moglen: http://www.redhat.com/magazine/020jun06/features/
[1] Albeit with some UI botox
Keep in mind that the we're talking specifically of software patents here.
Drug and hardware patents are also problematic, but the reform had better be well considered, or the cure could be worse than the disease. The specific case of software, however, is one where we can eschew playing without destabilizing the economy too readily.
Will someone in England please weigh in on whether it is ironic that MS is in trouble in the EU over free use of PDF, whereas MS engaged in pretty much the opposite behavior in MA over ODF?
This corporate behavior is not a bug; it's a feature.
When the relatives call you, all furious at having been swindled by proprietary vendors, you say, "Hey, nobody ever got fired for buying from <vendor>, but they certainly had a blood pressure increase."
There is plenty of material on freedom available. The challenge is to get people to experience the freedom. DRM is AOK as a TLA motivator.
+ Funniest post I've read on /. in too long.
Recommend you don't try that with Arabic, though: some people lack humor.
Nupedia was the Newton.
Now that Wikipedia has put the PDA market in the palm of everyone's hand,
someone with clout can come along and try to make it a trio of products.