People use the "they are deprived of it" "they deserve it" "its a right" more often than not because they want something themselves.
It is far easier to decry we don't have enough availability when you reference others - you can assuage your guilt that way.
Look, relatives of mine live on a farm. They care about the weather and look up current prices on feed and end products they sell. They have no need of anything but dial up and its done at the dark of the night because that is when they are done outside. To them its a tool. The problem with too many people is they can't tell a tool from entertainment anymore... they cannot tell work from addiction
Honestly I could live just fine without the net and cell phones, I grew up in the age when they weren't being rammed down our throats by everyone who wants to make a buck and that is what this availability is really about - businesses need to get into our wallets and someone decided that this will be the new means of doing so, trouble is we aren't playing along hence we must be ignorant.
yeah, whatever. I have high speed internet, my relatives do not, we are both happy and I would not change them and they would not change me. No ignorance, just acceptance that other people enjoy their lives just the way they are and aren't missing out on anything
because CHANGE is what goes in there, you certainly won't have anything left in your wallet or bank account after Congress and this Administration get done stimulating themselves
but you, and other voters, are truly not the people who got him into office, let alone will you get credit for it or any other sort of acknowledgment. If you haven't figured it out by now this is a political machine, almost all of the people surrounding him are old school, hell this could be Clinton Part ][ considering many of the appointments.
The one thing many voters (fanbois in this case) and even too many members of the press have wrong is that being there when it happened does not entitle one to be part of history or history making. Sorry, if any Republican or Democrat gets into power it is simply through the machine. I have quite a few Republican diehards as friends and they still can't figure out how McCain got to be their nominee, just like some of my HRC supporter friends who are still in shock.
The reason he cannot have what he wants is because the office is more important than he is. That is the major fact everyone seems to forget here
You missed one very clear difference between what was portrayed in BSG and what happens in the real world.
In the real world those being sent in are clearly brainwashed, they aren't even grunts, they are victims of an ideology which is essentially forcing their hands.
The BSG bunch who first decided to blow themselves up came up with the idea and people stepped forward. They also were targeting military targets and not innocent civilians.
So Tigh and #6 are going to have a child which blows the whole Cylon on Cylon can't reproduce... or which means the five are not the same as the seven.
Still I would love Ellen back, I want her back because it helps work the story out. The five are all angst filled because in the back of their heads they know what they are but something was in place till the song which blocked it. Imagine seeing memories you could not place all the damn time. It would send you to drink.
Still explaining away Starbuck is going to be very very difficult. I like the twist, however like I said I don't trust them to make it good.
Instead of assuming the Cylons are using their technological superiority to enforce their view why not consider...
both specie know faster than light travel, how much superior can you get if you can break that? I guess you can throw in the ability to transmit memories across space
how about the fact that we are now only learning, everything isn't what it seems to be.
While I could occasionally see some parallels to exaggerated actions of Bush and Co that exaggeration was so extreme at times that it bordered on ludicrous. If anything BSG jumped the shark one too many times that too much has become both silly and interesting at the same time. Every time they introduce a new interesting angle they lose with the previously mentioned shark jumping explanation
Don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed the most recent episode but I loathe seeing the explanation of Starbucks corpse and crashed viper. While I love the story twist I have little to no faith in them pulling it off anymore.
Honestly past 2.5 all I got was an impression of angst expressed improperly in some story arcs. In other words they tried to portray the Cylons as Bush and Co yet at the same time Roslyn had her supposed Bush and Co events. Yet neither really worked because they were always exaggerated beyond the point of belief.
If I could tie what the story is portraying to something in real life it would not be Bush and Co. It would be Hamas versus Israel versus Fatah. Both sides being victims of stupid hard headed actions and ideology, throw in some religion where if God did come back down neither side would recognize him because they would be to wrapped up in proving they are right.
I know your were modded as funny, but he is American, not African-American. He was natural born American. If he had been born outside of the country with citizenship out of the country the prefix could apply.
The day we can live without qualifying everyone's ancestry is the day we can have peace.
and I thought on Slashdot we were smart enough that speeches were nothing more than that. Promises of politicians are nothing, it is what goes on behind the scenes that matters. Until they I am not going to be one declaring he walked on water or cured me.
As for the separation of church and state being reaffirmed? Really? So that is written in the Constitution or Declaration of Independence? Do someone you just wallow so much in ignorance you don't read between the lines and only see flowers and unicorns now?
Mod me to hell, but the type of tripe being passed for insightful here is downright insulting.
what is more rightfully attributable to out of control government officials who feel as if they must make us "learn" to do things right and their holding of a public office gives them the right to determine right and wrong and enforce it when they deem necessary.
Too much is easily passed off to one form of bigotry or another but never properly attributed to ego. After reading some of the statements its very obvious that someone has a chip on their shoulder.
what your saying when combined with what others say about the other choice is that in the end it really doesn't matter because both are not only not ideal but bad?
Let us just pick the one who didn't pay their taxes for many years instead.
It is precisely because the Federal Government is so damn large that we have the financial problems we have today. They meddle with every part of society and never is the case where it all works out. They created the financial mess with the mortgage market by having conflicting rules and regulations.
It is time for SMALLER government, both State and Federal. Get them back to doing what governments should be doing, not playing the income redistribution game. Frankly I think the next four years will be worse as every damn looter comes forward for the money the producers make. Go look at the big cities and states with major financial problems, they drove the businesses and productive people out in droves with horrid tax schemes and nepotism.
Just like this half baked idea about buying older cars. The simple fact is, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO WASTE ON THIS AT THIS TIME.
Get over it, we are broke. We are broke because we created a government which spends more than we can produce. It is a drag on the economy and the spirits of Americans.
Why all these comparisons to the New Deal? It didn't work. If it wasn't for WW2 we would never have gotten out of it. All we got in eight years was government debt and unemployment did not change. Sorry but this use it for FOSS is simply pie in the sky type crap. Why? Because those who actually implement it will not have any relation to those in the community. It will simply route money to schools, after all they can do this just fine and they need the money as well as the computers.
No, instead of spending the money by the government why not let those who actually earn it decide what to do with it? Give all those who pay income tax a tax holiday. This will do two things, one is to allow the working American to spend his money where he wants thereby focusing the bailout on businesses that matter to the earners as show them just how much a burden the government truly is.
Sorry but he would be better going to Las Vegas or perhaps standing under trees on hills in thunderstorms than subscribing to your fear mongering. Get real, first Apple has an inherent desire to ensure they don't do it wrong because as a business if it can be proven in court they did screw up; lets be real here, if they do screw up it won't be one person and it won't be very hush hush on the net; they will be out some money.
Otherwise, if that file you purchased ends on the net and you don't know why then you have to ask yourself, what are your kids, so, roommates, etc, doing with your stuff while your not home? Let me guess, that would not be your responsibility.
I don't care how many stupid never likely to happen scare scenarios you can come up with, it never excuses you. You come across like the type who wants an note handed to them "yes Timmy, you can pirate music because it is a scary world out there and someone might use super secret squirrel technology and upload files from your computer to the interweb without your knowing, while you sleep"
LOL.
Insightful? Damn it makes me worry when I see tripe like yours rated such. (flame on I have the karma to burn)
Basically scare hospitals to the point that sharing becomes too financially risky to even mention. Throw in the Trial Lawyers who love to look for anything to sue a local hospital over and "accidental" disclosure or such becomes much easier if the data can be freely exchanged. Throw in possible errors, one opinion versus another (in the form of Doctor diagnoses), and treatment issues, and the can of worms become nasty.
You can't even shop for insurance across state lines because of the government's regulations. Think it is any less burdensome on the businesses in that industry?
The real problem, if the records can be accessed by outside agencies how long before it becomes a data mine for lawsuit happy agencies? How long before its leverage by some bureaucrat who has a bone to pick with a local hospital over treatments?
As for the job creation, typical political bs to sell it. Mentioning a new program which eliminates jobs doesn't float. Then again if the government is doing it it will probably create more jobs and raises costs.
I can easily ignore the global warming is caused by man fanatics by looking at average temperature charts by simply going back a thousand years. I can also ignore them for the last ten or so years as average temperatures have gone down. Yet if I bring it up I am bound to get shouted down or told I am ignorant of some previously not mentioned study that has a bullshit agency behind it with an official sounding name.
The fact is, temperatures do matter regardless of how isolated the locale is. Why? Because it goes to show that any measurement that does not take into fact changes which fall outside the accepted model are invalid themselves. Sorry, but we cannot ignore data about temperature spikes on either side. It just doesn't work that way.
It really comes down to one thing, whom does it benefit if one side is right versus the other? Who is making the real money on this? I will answer that, the environmentalist have been essentially taken over by big money. It wasn't too long ago when most corporations ignored "green" or offsets or whatever, but once they found how to make money on it they were more willing to play ball. Go look at the majority of people pontificating we are the cause then look to where they make their money, either direct or indirect, I am quite sure you will find out that their view is what it is because it supports their lifestyle, which usually expends so much resources to be contrary to everything they preach but damn if they don't have one thousand exceptions as to why "they" are allowed such. (then throw in the thousands of supporters who don't know the difference between Celsius an Fahrenheit and you get cult like followings and logic)
Corporations are merely collectors of taxes, so regardless if they actually have a payout to the treasury they are in effect only transferring wealth from American taxpayers to the government. They are nothing more than a proxy for the US government collecting money from income earners. I don't want them to have parity with the regular income earner because it means that even more taxes are indirect and the American citizen loses more. In other words, the more that taxes are indirect the more that fraud, waste, and abuse, of those tax dollars is hidden from the consumer and more of the true cost of their government is hidden.
If Americans were taxed for the full amount directly we might have real change in America. Instead by the use of class warfare including both between income earners and putting the taxpayer versus corporations government is effective at hiding its true cost to the individual earner.
As for trickle down, put it bluntly, if I stop spending my income on side items, services I could do myself, it will not trickle down. Suddenly that restaurant has less customers, that lawn service fewer contracts, that car wash gets less cars, and someone is out of a job. So it does trickle down very well. The problem is those who seek to portray it otherwise give extreme examples to bolster their case.
Trickle down works fine but the burden on the income earner is so severe that most attempts will fail because people rightfully don't want to give it up.
The greatest ponzi scheme is the American Government yet it our very representatives that seek to exaggerate and find any they can find in the private sector as examples of greed when in fact it is the very government doing this that is the greediest of them all.
If they really want to stimulate the economy they could just have the proposed two month tax holiday, as in no income taxes for two months.
However this doesn't work because
a. They don't want people who actually pay taxes to realize just how much they are paying.
b. People who don't pay taxes won't like not getting money and they are the most reliable voting block money can buy
c. It goes against the whole class warfare construct that politicians work so hard to keep
The simple fact is that the the word stimulus needs to be replaced with "payoff" as all we have seen is payoff to the politically connected. If anything this has become the biggest transfer of American's money transferred to the political class in history.
Letting the American taxpayer keep their money, in the form of reduced income taxes and reduce capital gains taxes, would do more to jump start the economy than any government attempt otherwise. Remember, when the government spends the money they do it to reward those they like and force others to change to become more liked, no necessarily better.
Jobs is capitalism to a T. He is exploiting a market by any means acceptable and doing a damn good job at it. If anything Apple will fail when the person running the show starts to actually be concerned with what the public wants instead of telling the public what he wants.
Apple is marketed very well and a big part of marketing is convincing people they must have it even if it isn't what they want or need.
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People use the "they are deprived of it" "they deserve it" "its a right" more often than not because they want something themselves.
It is far easier to decry we don't have enough availability when you reference others - you can assuage your guilt that way.
Look, relatives of mine live on a farm. They care about the weather and look up current prices on feed and end products they sell. They have no need of anything but dial up and its done at the dark of the night because that is when they are done outside. To them its a tool. The problem with too many people is they can't tell a tool from entertainment anymore... they cannot tell work from addiction
Honestly I could live just fine without the net and cell phones, I grew up in the age when they weren't being rammed down our throats by everyone who wants to make a buck and that is what this availability is really about - businesses need to get into our wallets and someone decided that this will be the new means of doing so, trouble is we aren't playing along hence we must be ignorant.
yeah, whatever. I have high speed internet, my relatives do not, we are both happy and I would not change them and they would not change me. No ignorance, just acceptance that other people enjoy their lives just the way they are and aren't missing out on anything
those mini black holes were up in the air, not next to the earth you ninny.
sheesh, next thing someone will make a video game with this scenario
because CHANGE is what goes in there, you certainly won't have anything left in your wallet or bank account after Congress and this Administration get done stimulating themselves
but you, and other voters, are truly not the people who got him into office, let alone will you get credit for it or any other sort of acknowledgment. If you haven't figured it out by now this is a political machine, almost all of the people surrounding him are old school, hell this could be Clinton Part ][ considering many of the appointments.
The one thing many voters (fanbois in this case) and even too many members of the press have wrong is that being there when it happened does not entitle one to be part of history or history making. Sorry, if any Republican or Democrat gets into power it is simply through the machine. I have quite a few Republican diehards as friends and they still can't figure out how McCain got to be their nominee, just like some of my HRC supporter friends who are still in shock.
The reason he cannot have what he wants is because the office is more important than he is. That is the major fact everyone seems to forget here
all his communication to us would come in the form of burning Bushes and stone tablets
You missed one very clear difference between what was portrayed in BSG and what happens in the real world.
In the real world those being sent in are clearly brainwashed, they aren't even grunts, they are victims of an ideology which is essentially forcing their hands.
The BSG bunch who first decided to blow themselves up came up with the idea and people stepped forward. They also were targeting military targets and not innocent civilians.
I am not even going there. OK I will.
So Tigh and #6 are going to have a child which blows the whole Cylon on Cylon can't reproduce... or which means the five are not the same as the seven.
Still I would love Ellen back, I want her back because it helps work the story out. The five are all angst filled because in the back of their heads they know what they are but something was in place till the song which blocked it. Imagine seeing memories you could not place all the damn time. It would send you to drink.
Still explaining away Starbuck is going to be very very difficult. I like the twist, however like I said I don't trust them to make it good.
Instead of assuming the Cylons are using their technological superiority to enforce their view why not consider...
both specie know faster than light travel, how much superior can you get if you can break that? I guess you can throw in the ability to transmit memories across space
how about the fact that we are now only learning, everything isn't what it seems to be.
While I could occasionally see some parallels to exaggerated actions of Bush and Co that exaggeration was so extreme at times that it bordered on ludicrous. If anything BSG jumped the shark one too many times that too much has become both silly and interesting at the same time. Every time they introduce a new interesting angle they lose with the previously mentioned shark jumping explanation
Don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed the most recent episode but I loathe seeing the explanation of Starbucks corpse and crashed viper. While I love the story twist I have little to no faith in them pulling it off anymore.
Honestly past 2.5 all I got was an impression of angst expressed improperly in some story arcs. In other words they tried to portray the Cylons as Bush and Co yet at the same time Roslyn had her supposed Bush and Co events. Yet neither really worked because they were always exaggerated beyond the point of belief.
If I could tie what the story is portraying to something in real life it would not be Bush and Co. It would be Hamas versus Israel versus Fatah. Both sides being victims of stupid hard headed actions and ideology, throw in some religion where if God did come back down neither side would recognize him because they would be to wrapped up in proving they are right.
that. Damn thing takes over a minute from the time I push the power button before it will even open the door to load a movie.
I leave it on across weekends when I know we will view more movies or when it especially cold outside.
I know your were modded as funny, but he is American, not African-American. He was natural born American. If he had been born outside of the country with citizenship out of the country the prefix could apply.
The day we can live without qualifying everyone's ancestry is the day we can have peace.
and I thought on Slashdot we were smart enough that speeches were nothing more than that. Promises of politicians are nothing, it is what goes on behind the scenes that matters. Until they I am not going to be one declaring he walked on water or cured me.
As for the separation of church and state being reaffirmed? Really? So that is written in the Constitution or Declaration of Independence? Do someone you just wallow so much in ignorance you don't read between the lines and only see flowers and unicorns now?
Mod me to hell, but the type of tripe being passed for insightful here is downright insulting.
what is more rightfully attributable to out of control government officials who feel as if they must make us "learn" to do things right and their holding of a public office gives them the right to determine right and wrong and enforce it when they deem necessary.
Too much is easily passed off to one form of bigotry or another but never properly attributed to ego. After reading some of the statements its very obvious that someone has a chip on their shoulder.
what your saying when combined with what others say about the other choice is that in the end it really doesn't matter because both are not only not ideal but bad?
Let us just pick the one who didn't pay their taxes for many years instead.
It is precisely because the Federal Government is so damn large that we have the financial problems we have today. They meddle with every part of society and never is the case where it all works out. They created the financial mess with the mortgage market by having conflicting rules and regulations.
It is time for SMALLER government, both State and Federal. Get them back to doing what governments should be doing, not playing the income redistribution game. Frankly I think the next four years will be worse as every damn looter comes forward for the money the producers make. Go look at the big cities and states with major financial problems, they drove the businesses and productive people out in droves with horrid tax schemes and nepotism.
Just like this half baked idea about buying older cars. The simple fact is, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO WASTE ON THIS AT THIS TIME.
Get over it, we are broke. We are broke because we created a government which spends more than we can produce. It is a drag on the economy and the spirits of Americans.
Uh, welcome to Slashbama or is that Obamadot?
I keep forgetting, but I knew I had politics unchecked for a reason.
I heard that the Messiah is taking office soon.
Why all these comparisons to the New Deal? It didn't work. If it wasn't for WW2 we would never have gotten out of it. All we got in eight years was government debt and unemployment did not change. Sorry but this use it for FOSS is simply pie in the sky type crap. Why? Because those who actually implement it will not have any relation to those in the community. It will simply route money to schools, after all they can do this just fine and they need the money as well as the computers.
No, instead of spending the money by the government why not let those who actually earn it decide what to do with it? Give all those who pay income tax a tax holiday. This will do two things, one is to allow the working American to spend his money where he wants thereby focusing the bailout on businesses that matter to the earners as show them just how much a burden the government truly is.
Sorry but he would be better going to Las Vegas or perhaps standing under trees on hills in thunderstorms than subscribing to your fear mongering. Get real, first Apple has an inherent desire to ensure they don't do it wrong because as a business if it can be proven in court they did screw up; lets be real here, if they do screw up it won't be one person and it won't be very hush hush on the net; they will be out some money.
Otherwise, if that file you purchased ends on the net and you don't know why then you have to ask yourself, what are your kids, so, roommates, etc, doing with your stuff while your not home? Let me guess, that would not be your responsibility.
I don't care how many stupid never likely to happen scare scenarios you can come up with, it never excuses you. You come across like the type who wants an note handed to them "yes Timmy, you can pirate music because it is a scary world out there and someone might use super secret squirrel technology and upload files from your computer to the interweb without your knowing, while you sleep"
LOL.
Insightful? Damn it makes me worry when I see tripe like yours rated such. (flame on I have the karma to burn)
Privacy Privacy Privacy.
Basically scare hospitals to the point that sharing becomes too financially risky to even mention. Throw in the Trial Lawyers who love to look for anything to sue a local hospital over and "accidental" disclosure or such becomes much easier if the data can be freely exchanged. Throw in possible errors, one opinion versus another (in the form of Doctor diagnoses), and treatment issues, and the can of worms become nasty.
You can't even shop for insurance across state lines because of the government's regulations. Think it is any less burdensome on the businesses in that industry?
The real problem, if the records can be accessed by outside agencies how long before it becomes a data mine for lawsuit happy agencies? How long before its leverage by some bureaucrat who has a bone to pick with a local hospital over treatments?
As for the job creation, typical political bs to sell it. Mentioning a new program which eliminates jobs doesn't float. Then again if the government is doing it it will probably create more jobs and raises costs.
I can easily ignore the global warming is caused by man fanatics by looking at average temperature charts by simply going back a thousand years. I can also ignore them for the last ten or so years as average temperatures have gone down. Yet if I bring it up I am bound to get shouted down or told I am ignorant of some previously not mentioned study that has a bullshit agency behind it with an official sounding name.
The fact is, temperatures do matter regardless of how isolated the locale is. Why? Because it goes to show that any measurement that does not take into fact changes which fall outside the accepted model are invalid themselves. Sorry, but we cannot ignore data about temperature spikes on either side. It just doesn't work that way.
It really comes down to one thing, whom does it benefit if one side is right versus the other? Who is making the real money on this? I will answer that, the environmentalist have been essentially taken over by big money. It wasn't too long ago when most corporations ignored "green" or offsets or whatever, but once they found how to make money on it they were more willing to play ball. Go look at the majority of people pontificating we are the cause then look to where they make their money, either direct or indirect, I am quite sure you will find out that their view is what it is because it supports their lifestyle, which usually expends so much resources to be contrary to everything they preach but damn if they don't have one thousand exceptions as to why "they" are allowed such. (then throw in the thousands of supporters who don't know the difference between Celsius an Fahrenheit and you get cult like followings and logic)
government works better if people are ignorant of the facts, and boy are the majority ever so ignorant of what their government does.
Corporations are merely collectors of taxes, so regardless if they actually have a payout to the treasury they are in effect only transferring wealth from American taxpayers to the government. They are nothing more than a proxy for the US government collecting money from income earners. I don't want them to have parity with the regular income earner because it means that even more taxes are indirect and the American citizen loses more. In other words, the more that taxes are indirect the more that fraud, waste, and abuse, of those tax dollars is hidden from the consumer and more of the true cost of their government is hidden.
If Americans were taxed for the full amount directly we might have real change in America. Instead by the use of class warfare including both between income earners and putting the taxpayer versus corporations government is effective at hiding its true cost to the individual earner.
As for trickle down, put it bluntly, if I stop spending my income on side items, services I could do myself, it will not trickle down. Suddenly that restaurant has less customers, that lawn service fewer contracts, that car wash gets less cars, and someone is out of a job. So it does trickle down very well. The problem is those who seek to portray it otherwise give extreme examples to bolster their case.
Trickle down works fine but the burden on the income earner is so severe that most attempts will fail because people rightfully don't want to give it up.
The greatest ponzi scheme is the American Government yet it our very representatives that seek to exaggerate and find any they can find in the private sector as examples of greed when in fact it is the very government doing this that is the greediest of them all.
If they really want to stimulate the economy they could just have the proposed two month tax holiday, as in no income taxes for two months.
However this doesn't work because
a. They don't want people who actually pay taxes to realize just how much they are paying.
b. People who don't pay taxes won't like not getting money and they are the most reliable voting block money can buy
c. It goes against the whole class warfare construct that politicians work so hard to keep
The simple fact is that the the word stimulus needs to be replaced with "payoff" as all we have seen is payoff to the politically connected. If anything this has become the biggest transfer of American's money transferred to the political class in history.
Letting the American taxpayer keep their money, in the form of reduced income taxes and reduce capital gains taxes, would do more to jump start the economy than any government attempt otherwise. Remember, when the government spends the money they do it to reward those they like and force others to change to become more liked, no necessarily better.
Jobs is capitalism to a T. He is exploiting a market by any means acceptable and doing a damn good job at it. If anything Apple will fail when the person running the show starts to actually be concerned with what the public wants instead of telling the public what he wants.
Apple is marketed very well and a big part of marketing is convincing people they must have it even if it isn't what they want or need.
which is the main reason the majority of us have docks for our laptops.
I would say the priority is
Monitor
Keyboard
Mouse
I need a large (read 24+ ) screen for doing the work I can show clients "acceptably" on a laptop screen.
The dock means I can just drop the laptop in and not think about it.