You are already charged per mile by proxy via gas taxes.
And the general per mile charge is inspired by the increasing use of EVs and hybrids. As I said, they will get the money one way or another. EVs won't force government to charge us less, declining gas tax revenue and traffic ticket revenue will be offset by other charges to drivers.
I doubt america is so retarded that traffic cops get paid by the ticket "revenue" they bring in...
Hghway patrol for example. Its not that the cops or even their departments get ticket revenue, but the state gets that revenue. Traffic tickets are a revenue source for the state, just like the sales tax, income tax, etc. The state can then "pressure" the highway patrol to generate more revenue. Similar story with towns and their police departments, and "pressure" applied to traffic officers.
Actual numbers on coal use for electricity production in Germany in TWh from 2008-2018
lignite: 150.6 145.6 145.9 150.1 160.7 160.9 155.8 154.5 149.5 148.4 146.0
coal: 124.6 107.9 117.0 112.4 116.4 127.3 118.6 117.7 112.2 93.6 83.0
I know it is an annoying inconvenience to look at actual data before having an opinion, for those who want to learn, the source is here:https://www.ag-energiebilanzen.de/ (PDF below "STROMMIX")
With electric power being transferred around Europe you can't really look at one country in isolation. For example France used to export nuclear based power, nukes get shut down, countries have to find alternate sources.
The simple fact remains. Europe had to increase US coal imports.
Its not quite the same. In the US a company currently can't be compelled to install a backdoor into their hardware, or otherwise degrade the security of their hardware. They can design a secure boot system, a secure encrypted communications channel, a system with no company based key escrows, etc. Then when they get a National Security Letter they can tell the judge we would love to comply with this order but it is technologically impossible, or we do not have the key requested, etc.
For example Apple is quite free to increase the security of the phones at each iteration no matter how pissed off the FBI gets.
Coal is a dead and uneconomical way of producing energy and it looks to me like the Germans have accepted that and moved on to technologies that have a future.
Europe is forced to use more coal due to the *rejection* of technology. The hysterical and premature shutdown of nuclear power has forced the increased the use of coal. The US coal industry has been throw a lifeline not by Trump but by European greens. US coal exports to Europe have nearly doubled in recent years.
Another poster is correct. Europe is about talk, about virtue signaling gestures. The reality of their actions quite different.
They were clearly seeking additional, unpublished information...
The text of the indictment proves you quite mistaken regarding "clearly", this text actually suggests the contrary: "to inquire about future releases by WikiLeaks".
... Else why bother?
Knowing when the next public dump of wikileaks will occur would allow the campaign PR machinery to be ready to spread their message as fast as possible. To set the narrative for the spin on the wikileaks info. The other side, with no forewarning of the date and time, will be slower to react and be at a messaging disadvantage.
If you're wondering why Stone wasn't charged with anything else, the answer is because they will only charge him with things that are easily proven, and they will not release information that they still may need to use in their investigation. No reason to show their hand when they're not even playing for the big pot. Yet.
Also plausible is they charged him with all they have as part of a fishing expedition in search of something else. The notion that they necessarily have more is an assumption.
But the reaching out we know of occurred after publication to the whole world.
You're being deliberately disingenuous. Obviously the information they were seeking hadn't been published, otherwise they wouldn't have had to try to get it.
No disingenuousness, the only information they ever received was the already published info. Plus the shady lawyers involved may quite well understand the legal hazards and simply ask if there were more info and when it will be publicly published, the text of the indictment merely says "to inquire about future releases by WikiLeaks" after all.
I'm making assumption by only going with the evidence to date. That's an interesting interpretation of "assumptions".:-)
Saying that Stone was not involved with the Russians is an assumption based on incomplete evidence. You're trying to assert a conclusion that you can't know yet.
I am asserting this is our best understanding of reality until more evidence appears. Sort of like science asserted that Newtonian physics was our best understanding of nature until Einstein produced new evidence. That there are hypothesis, potential new discoveries, unexplained mysteries, etc does not change the current understanding of reality. Hypothesis such as "There are enough people in the middle to be able to say "Trump did not communicate directly with the Russians", but that's what it's about. There are just a lot of middle men." are merely wishful thinking.
Well, you're making certain assumptions based on only what Mueller has revealed so far.
I'm making assumption by only going with the evidence to date. That's an interesting interpretation of "assumptions".:-)
It sounds like you're wondering how many men need to be in the middle before it's no longer considered collusion or cooperation
Nope, zero to many in the middle is irrelevant. All that matters is active cooperation between the campaign and the Russian government, a Russian oligarch, etc. Absent such cooperation the fact that the wikileaks info originally game from Russian hackers is effectively trivia. Russia, China, North Korea, or US teenager in Mom's basement (Sarah Palin's gmail publication?) makes no difference when the cooperation ends with wikileaks.
Yeah, lying to the feds is bad. Is there anything else shocking or illegal in these events? There doesn't seem to be.
Yes. Getting dirt on your opponent is receiving a campaign contribution, and there are laws restricting who can give you contributions. Getting them from foreigners is illegal.
So if you are buying the dirt from foreigners you are fee and clear, as opposed to receiving it for fee?
Of course, this doesn't apply to dirt that is published to the whole world. But reaching out to Wikileaks to get Russian-sourced dirt on Hillary would be soliciting an illegal foreign contribution to Trump's campaign.
But the reaching out we know of occurred after publication to the whole world.
Given the noticeable lack of charges related to dog threats, all we have is an a-hole howling at the moon.
Re-read 39b. This wasn't "howling at the moon". This was an email, one of several, where he directs a person what to say (or not say)...
Hence the appropriate tampering charges.
... and then threats his dog and then later (in another email) threatens a bar complaint. What sort of apologist are you?
A bar compliant is perfectly legal. As for the dog, again, no charges filed. This suggests figurative language not a serious threat.
If the mob threatens to break your legs to not testify but doesn't actually go through with it, you think that should just be legal? There's a reason that the threat if credible is enough. The only argument you have that it's not credible is if you believe this person, who now faces many years in jail if convicted, was totally incapable or unwilling to carry out his threats.
Given the lack of charges regarding the dog that seems to be law enforcement's determination.
Let's get back to the real point, though.
What's that? That lying to feds is bad and illegal. I noted that in my first post. And regardless of how many straw men you construct I have never said otherwise.
Hint: My actual point is that all we have here is a guy lying about opposition research, that we do not have collusion with the Russians.
Stone was involved with wikileaks, not the Russians. The Russian's alleged hacking of the DNC and providing info to wikileaks **pre-date's** Stone's outreach to wikileaks. Wikileaks had **already** published by the time Stone reached out. This reaching out is not collusion. The hacking and publication all occurred without Stone involvement.
Thought you were making that up, but several journalists are reporting Stone threatened to steal a witnesses therapy dog, and told a witness "Prepare to die"... Trump is surrounded by Don Corleone wanna-bes!
So a member (associate ?) of that political campaign turns out to be an a-hole who sends hyperbolic and figurative text messages to people. He asked a guy to lie and said mean things when he didn't lie. Yeah, tampering, a derivative of the lying I referred to in my first post. Beyond lying/tampering, actions or attempted actions need to occur to move things beyond figurative language and to actual additional crimes. Given the noticeable lack of charges related to dog threats, all we have is an a-hole howling at the moon.
1. A journalistic organization publicly publishes dirt on a political campaign.
2. A rival political campaign contacts the journalistic organization inquiring about any other potential dirt.
3. A member (associate ?) of that political campaign lies to federal authorities about contacting the journalistic organization.
4. Member (associate ?) of that political campaign charged with lying to federal authorities.
Yeah, lying to the feds is bad. Is there anything else shocking or illegal in these events? There doesn't seem to be.
Whoda thunk a bunch of rich white 1%ers who push "progressive" ideals is also all about stifling any dissent?
rich WHITE? have you BEEN to any bay area campus? (narrarator: most tech workers are indian and chinese; last I checked, that's not 'white' by definition).
Clue: the rich 1%'ers sniffling dissent are the senior management, not the workers.
Yes, look at the numbers and compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges. Your "blue wall" theory is as garbage in 2018 as it was in 2016. Trump actually outperformed Presidents Obama and Clinton with respect to first midterm losses.
In 2018, Trump's first midterm election, the Republicans lost 42 seats.
In 2010, Obama's first midterm election, the Democrats lost 63 seats.
In 1994, Clintons's first midterm election, the Democrats lost 54 seats.
The fantasy of a "blue wall" is of great help to Trump. Is there some reason you perpetuate this myth?
A cheap scooter, or a new company inventory. Buy a bunch of old scooters, repaint them, update their software to work with your "freebird" or whatever app and you too can have a scooter rental company without the manufacturing of scooters.
Not really, alcohol is actually harmful to humans. Marijuana is better compared with garlic, rose oil, or any other edible herb sold in a health food store... am speaking of the substance itself, not smoking it. I'm sure you'll find inhaling combustion byproducts is a bad idea in general and it isn't a good idea to smoke most of the things we know as safe in society.
Smoking was what I was referring to.
Plus there was the observable mental decline of classmates who were heavy pot smokers through junior high school and high school. If not a general problem perhaps a developmental problem tied to age.
Its not how much is in the rings, its how much is being lost in a given amount of time. The summary indicated about two swimming pools worth of material per hour. That seem manageable.
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You are already charged per mile by proxy via gas taxes.
And the general per mile charge is inspired by the increasing use of EVs and hybrids. As I said, they will get the money one way or another. EVs won't force government to charge us less, declining gas tax revenue and traffic ticket revenue will be offset by other charges to drivers.
Yes, but you will then be charged per mile that your vehicle travels on a public road. They will get the money from you one way or another.
I doubt america is so retarded that traffic cops get paid by the ticket "revenue" they bring in ...
Hghway patrol for example. Its not that the cops or even their departments get ticket revenue, but the state gets that revenue. Traffic tickets are a revenue source for the state, just like the sales tax, income tax, etc. The state can then "pressure" the highway patrol to generate more revenue. Similar story with towns and their police departments, and "pressure" applied to traffic officers.
Actual numbers on coal use for electricity production in Germany in TWh from 2008-2018 lignite: 150.6 145.6 145.9 150.1 160.7 160.9 155.8 154.5 149.5 148.4 146.0 coal: 124.6 107.9 117.0 112.4 116.4 127.3 118.6 117.7 112.2 93.6 83.0 I know it is an annoying inconvenience to look at actual data before having an opinion, for those who want to learn, the source is here:https://www.ag-energiebilanzen.de/ (PDF below "STROMMIX")
Actual numbers to *Europe* show a 12.4% increase. 11.7 million tons, up from 9.7
https://www.eia.gov/coal/produ...
With electric power being transferred around Europe you can't really look at one country in isolation. For example France used to export nuclear based power, nukes get shut down, countries have to find alternate sources.
The simple fact remains. Europe had to increase US coal imports.
Or the US with the National Security Letters.
Its not quite the same. In the US a company currently can't be compelled to install a backdoor into their hardware, or otherwise degrade the security of their hardware. They can design a secure boot system, a secure encrypted communications channel, a system with no company based key escrows, etc. Then when they get a National Security Letter they can tell the judge we would love to comply with this order but it is technologically impossible, or we do not have the key requested, etc.
For example Apple is quite free to increase the security of the phones at each iteration no matter how pissed off the FBI gets.
Coal is a dead and uneconomical way of producing energy and it looks to me like the Germans have accepted that and moved on to technologies that have a future.
Europe is forced to use more coal due to the *rejection* of technology. The hysterical and premature shutdown of nuclear power has forced the increased the use of coal. The US coal industry has been throw a lifeline not by Trump but by European greens. US coal exports to Europe have nearly doubled in recent years.
Another poster is correct. Europe is about talk, about virtue signaling gestures. The reality of their actions quite different.
They were clearly seeking additional, unpublished information...
The text of the indictment proves you quite mistaken regarding "clearly", this text actually suggests the contrary: "to inquire about future releases by WikiLeaks".
... Else why bother?
Knowing when the next public dump of wikileaks will occur would allow the campaign PR machinery to be ready to spread their message as fast as possible. To set the narrative for the spin on the wikileaks info. The other side, with no forewarning of the date and time, will be slower to react and be at a messaging disadvantage.
If you're wondering why Stone wasn't charged with anything else, the answer is because they will only charge him with things that are easily proven, and they will not release information that they still may need to use in their investigation. No reason to show their hand when they're not even playing for the big pot. Yet.
Also plausible is they charged him with all they have as part of a fishing expedition in search of something else. The notion that they necessarily have more is an assumption.
But the reaching out we know of occurred after publication to the whole world.
You're being deliberately disingenuous. Obviously the information they were seeking hadn't been published, otherwise they wouldn't have had to try to get it.
No disingenuousness, the only information they ever received was the already published info. Plus the shady lawyers involved may quite well understand the legal hazards and simply ask if there were more info and when it will be publicly published, the text of the indictment merely says "to inquire about future releases by WikiLeaks" after all.
I'm making assumption by only going with the evidence to date. That's an interesting interpretation of "assumptions". :-)
Saying that Stone was not involved with the Russians is an assumption based on incomplete evidence. You're trying to assert a conclusion that you can't know yet.
I am asserting this is our best understanding of reality until more evidence appears. Sort of like science asserted that Newtonian physics was our best understanding of nature until Einstein produced new evidence. That there are hypothesis, potential new discoveries, unexplained mysteries, etc does not change the current understanding of reality. Hypothesis such as "There are enough people in the middle to be able to say "Trump did not communicate directly with the Russians", but that's what it's about. There are just a lot of middle men." are merely wishful thinking.
Well, you're making certain assumptions based on only what Mueller has revealed so far.
I'm making assumption by only going with the evidence to date. That's an interesting interpretation of "assumptions". :-)
It sounds like you're wondering how many men need to be in the middle before it's no longer considered collusion or cooperation
Nope, zero to many in the middle is irrelevant. All that matters is active cooperation between the campaign and the Russian government, a Russian oligarch, etc. Absent such cooperation the fact that the wikileaks info originally game from Russian hackers is effectively trivia. Russia, China, North Korea, or US teenager in Mom's basement (Sarah Palin's gmail publication?) makes no difference when the cooperation ends with wikileaks.
Yeah, lying to the feds is bad. Is there anything else shocking or illegal in these events? There doesn't seem to be.
Yes. Getting dirt on your opponent is receiving a campaign contribution, and there are laws restricting who can give you contributions. Getting them from foreigners is illegal.
So if you are buying the dirt from foreigners you are fee and clear, as opposed to receiving it for fee?
Of course, this doesn't apply to dirt that is published to the whole world. But reaching out to Wikileaks to get Russian-sourced dirt on Hillary would be soliciting an illegal foreign contribution to Trump's campaign.
But the reaching out we know of occurred after publication to the whole world.
Re-read 39b. This wasn't "howling at the moon". This was an email, one of several, where he directs a person what to say (or not say) ...
Hence the appropriate tampering charges.
... and then threats his dog and then later (in another email) threatens a bar complaint. What sort of apologist are you?
A bar compliant is perfectly legal. As for the dog, again, no charges filed. This suggests figurative language not a serious threat.
If the mob threatens to break your legs to not testify but doesn't actually go through with it, you think that should just be legal? There's a reason that the threat if credible is enough. The only argument you have that it's not credible is if you believe this person, who now faces many years in jail if convicted, was totally incapable or unwilling to carry out his threats.
Given the lack of charges regarding the dog that seems to be law enforcement's determination.
Let's get back to the real point, though.
What's that? That lying to feds is bad and illegal. I noted that in my first post. And regardless of how many straw men you construct I have never said otherwise.
Hint: My actual point is that all we have here is a guy lying about opposition research, that we do not have collusion with the Russians.
We damned near IMPEACHED President Clinton over it.
Of course. He was the one lying under oath before a judge, like Stone.
Stone was involved with wikileaks, not the Russians. The Russian's alleged hacking of the DNC and providing info to wikileaks **pre-date's** Stone's outreach to wikileaks. Wikileaks had **already** published by the time Stone reached out. This reaching out is not collusion. The hacking and publication all occurred without Stone involvement.
Thought you were making that up, but several journalists are reporting Stone threatened to steal a witnesses therapy dog, and told a witness "Prepare to die"... Trump is surrounded by Don Corleone wanna-bes!
So a member (associate ?) of that political campaign turns out to be an a-hole who sends hyperbolic and figurative text messages to people. He asked a guy to lie and said mean things when he didn't lie. Yeah, tampering, a derivative of the lying I referred to in my first post. Beyond lying/tampering, actions or attempted actions need to occur to move things beyond figurative language and to actual additional crimes. Given the noticeable lack of charges related to dog threats, all we have is an a-hole howling at the moon.
Is there anything else shocking or illegal in these events? There doesn't seem to be.
You forgot about the counts of Obstructing a Proceeding and Witness Tampering.
Not really, they seemed redundant (obstructing, what his lie amounted to) and derivative (tampering, he asked someone else to lie)
Anyway, when you're trying to defend Stone, ...
Really? I'm defending Stone by saying he lied to federal authorities, a recognized federal crime?
What I am doing is point out the silliness of equating this to Russian collusion.
Here's a simpler summary of events:
1. A journalistic organization publicly publishes dirt on a political campaign.
2. A rival political campaign contacts the journalistic organization inquiring about any other potential dirt.
3. A member (associate ?) of that political campaign lies to federal authorities about contacting the journalistic organization.
4. Member (associate ?) of that political campaign charged with lying to federal authorities.
Yeah, lying to the feds is bad. Is there anything else shocking or illegal in these events? There doesn't seem to be.
Whoda thunk a bunch of rich white 1%ers who push "progressive" ideals is also all about stifling any dissent?
rich WHITE? have you BEEN to any bay area campus? (narrarator: most tech workers are indian and chinese; last I checked, that's not 'white' by definition).
Clue: the rich 1%'ers sniffling dissent are the senior management, not the workers.
Yes, look at the numbers and compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges. Your "blue wall" theory is as garbage in 2018 as it was in 2016. Trump actually outperformed Presidents Obama and Clinton with respect to first midterm losses.
In 2018, Trump's first midterm election, the Republicans lost 42 seats.
In 2010, Obama's first midterm election, the Democrats lost 63 seats.
In 1994, Clintons's first midterm election, the Democrats lost 54 seats.
The fantasy of a "blue wall" is of great help to Trump. Is there some reason you perpetuate this myth?
A cheap scooter, or a new company inventory. Buy a bunch of old scooters, repaint them, update their software to work with your "freebird" or whatever app and you too can have a scooter rental company without the manufacturing of scooters.
Not really, alcohol is actually harmful to humans. Marijuana is better compared with garlic, rose oil, or any other edible herb sold in a health food store ... am speaking of the substance itself, not smoking it. I'm sure you'll find inhaling combustion byproducts is a bad idea in general and it isn't a good idea to smoke most of the things we know as safe in society.
Smoking was what I was referring to.
Plus there was the observable mental decline of classmates who were heavy pot smokers through junior high school and high school. If not a general problem perhaps a developmental problem tied to age.
True, legalizing the pot grows seems like the answer here. Why are we treating this any differently than planting a tree?
The better analogy is why are we treating this any different than distilling a bottle of bourbon?
If there are arrests for trespassing... sentence them to work in the parks.
Much of the damage is from illegal pot grows, there are much better things to charge these folks with than trespassing.
Its not how much is in the rings, its how much is being lost in a given amount of time. The summary indicated about two swimming pools worth of material per hour. That seem manageable.