So switch off automatic updates, two mouse clicks, type update in search, another two clicks (probably a third if you have UAC on).
In Linux if I want to install something I'm happy if ap-get even works, otherwise it's download the source code, download the compiler, no not that compiler, the other more obscure one which is buried in the deepest darkest part of the internet, compile the compiler. Nope you need this library, and that library and your mothers fvcken maiden name. Yah, it compiled. Run it. Bam, doesn't work. So you open up the source and take a look. Nary a comment in site, and it looks like it was coded by a drunk cat while taken a sh!t in a litter box.
Fuck it!
Switch to windows, three clicks later it's done. I use me PC to get shit done, I don't want to have to fight to get shit done.
Linux is more stable!!! I hear you cry, Windows would be more stable if people didn't install so much sh!t on it.
Use the grid itself Power Line Communication
Although this would mean anyone could get onto it as well so not such a hot idea.
There's always satellite?
You would be amazed - or maybe shocked - to see some of the banking systems out there. I have worked for several financial institutions and their systems are usually very very old legacy crap stuck together with bubble gum and faith. One place was dealing with 70% of the countries financial messaging and they were not using transactions, if there was a problem (and there often was) messages were lost. Asked if I could change it to use transactions, couple lines here, couple lines there. NO. Why? Cost to test would involve the entire country and would cost millions. OK. So they are still losing messages.
Umm, I don't think you are understanding the meaning of this.
You CAN get water for free. But you stick it a bottle and people pay for it. The originating comment was saying you could not make money from something that can be gotten for free.
Most users are not computer savvy enough to even know what a cookie is, never mind use one to hijack my session. They do however know what a password is, and if it is so easy to get to, that just makes it worse. IMHO you should not be able to view your passwords again, EVER! Fine enter it for me when I login to the site again, but being able to view it again should just not be an option. Encrypt it with a random key based on the time and machine serial, whatever, but keep it fvkcen safe, even from me.
Obligatory bash quote
it only takes three commands to install Gentoo
cfdisk/dev/hda && mkfs.xfs/dev/hda1 && mount/dev/hda1/mnt/gentoo/ && chroot/mnt/gentoo/ && env-update && ./etc/profile && emerge sync && cd/usr/portage && scripts/bootsrap.sh && emerge system && emerge vim && vi/etc/fstab && emerge gentoo-dev-sources && cd/usr/src/linux && make menuconfig && make install modules_install && emerge gnome mozilla-firefox openoffice && emerge grub && cp/boot/grub/grub.conf.sample/boot/grub/grub.conf && vi/boot/grub/grub.conf && grub && init 6
that's the first one
And that above all else is why Linux will be a haven for IT people and not the general populace. Want to change resolutions to something not shipped with your current flavour of free, you have to edit config files and google your monitors fvcken scan rates. Want to install xyz, sure no problem, here's the source code, no binaries soz, want to compile it download python, here's the source compile that first, want to compile that, soz, you need library ab fucken z, soz wrong version because it's changed 20 times in the last 20 fucken minutes. Oh sorry you downloaded the wrong version, this was forked because the developers got their panty's in a twist you want the OTHER fork.
The Linux install managers are helping a great deal, but even with those at some point you have to drop to the console to do stuff. Most windows users do not even know what a command prompt is.
Until Linux fixes that it will always lag behind windows.
Linux : But we don't have any viruses!
Why write a virus for 5% of the population who could decompile the virus and find the CnC?
Clearly you don't like a clean screen. The last thing I want is fingerprints all over my monitor. I am constantly wiping down my tablet. When work pig's walk up to me eating taco's and then insist on jabbing at my screen like retards instead of saying "line 256" I want to beat them to death with my chair. Touch screens are a fvck up, until we stop secreting oil they will always be a fvck up. I need to see what's on my screen, not misread an 8 as a 6 because of crap on my screen.
Should be the other way round, first serve in prison, if you survive, you get to be president.
I still like David Eddings idea, the people who want to serve as president are automatically disqualified. Then you put everyone else's name in a hat and draw randomly. That person's assets are then seized and sold off, the money going into the countries coffers. At the end of the term if the country did well and his money is still in the coffers he gets it back, if it didn't do so well then he doesn't get it back.
Seems better than listening to baby kissing liars, promising the world with one hand while holding the dildo behind his back with the other.
The NSA are going to love this! Or maybe they already know how to do it and John Pointdexter and Oliver North really meant it when they kept saying "I have no clear recollection of that." at the Iran Contra trial.
We had a similar situation, while working at a large bank we migrated all OUR stuff off of an old server onto a shiny new one. We thought we were the only ones using the server, so once we were done we switched it off. Got a call a couple of days later from across the country - please switch the server back on. Someone had written a C++ reporting tool for clearcase and deployed it to the machine, done some whack sort of configuration on the machine to get it to work. When we tried to migrate it to the new server it refused to work. No source code, no idea who had written it in the first place. So we plugged it back in and stuck it in a corner of the server room. AFAIK it's still sitting there spewing out one report a week and doing nothing else.
I have been writing software for many years now, been involved in the design and planning stages of lots of projects big and small. People who are not in the software industry find it hard to believe how expensive it is to write software. It takes lots of hours, lots of skills and lots of coffee. The programmers/designers/analysts/grapics artists all have to be paid for their time (it's called a salary). Then there is office space, electricity, furniture, computers, servers, etc. A top end server to run a popular website can cost millions, and they are usually in a server farm so there is more than one. Some of the bigger projects take years to complete, even with a large team. Credits in games now run like credits in a movie (long ass list). Pay for your software, it costs money to make it (yes even crazy birds) and the people who make it should be compensated for their time and effort. Sure I pirate the odd program and game, but only for programs I am going to use once and then never use again, which does not make my pirating right, it does make me a thief, no matter how you try to rationalize it.
I couldn't agree more, now that the driver issue is sorted out (mostly - some legacy crap still won't run). I was an early adopter of Vista and liked it a lot. I do agree though that it was more of a resource hog than xp, but I have always maintained a decent gaming rig and did not really notice any performance issues when changing to Vista.
Slashdot Mirror
even if all OS' are 99.5% the same
Clearly you are NOT a programmer.
So switch off automatic updates, two mouse clicks, type update in search, another two clicks (probably a third if you have UAC on). In Linux if I want to install something I'm happy if ap-get even works, otherwise it's download the source code, download the compiler, no not that compiler, the other more obscure one which is buried in the deepest darkest part of the internet, compile the compiler. Nope you need this library, and that library and your mothers fvcken maiden name. Yah, it compiled. Run it. Bam, doesn't work. So you open up the source and take a look. Nary a comment in site, and it looks like it was coded by a drunk cat while taken a sh!t in a litter box.
Fuck it!
Switch to windows, three clicks later it's done. I use me PC to get shit done, I don't want to have to fight to get shit done.
Linux is more stable!!! I hear you cry, Windows would be more stable if people didn't install so much sh!t on it.
Use the grid itself
Power Line Communication
Although this would mean anyone could get onto it as well so not such a hot idea.
There's always satellite?
Stop insulting baker's years!
Degrees Fahrenheit, he is talking about heating elements, would have thought that would be obvious.
I thought they fired all of them and replaced them with Indians.
I hope Uwe Boll makes it.
And what is the "cloud" or server farm but just another form of mainframe?
You would be amazed - or maybe shocked - to see some of the banking systems out there. I have worked for several financial institutions and their systems are usually very very old legacy crap stuck together with bubble gum and faith. One place was dealing with 70% of the countries financial messaging and they were not using transactions, if there was a problem (and there often was) messages were lost. Asked if I could change it to use transactions, couple lines here, couple lines there.
NO.
Why?
Cost to test would involve the entire country and would cost millions.
OK.
So they are still losing messages.
Umm, I don't think you are understanding the meaning of this.
You CAN get water for free. But you stick it a bottle and people pay for it. The originating comment was saying you could not make money from something that can be gotten for free.
Green my ass
Where does 80% of the electricity come from?
And then there is the possible effects from the other 20%
Most users are not computer savvy enough to even know what a cookie is, never mind use one to hijack my session. They do however know what a password is, and if it is so easy to get to, that just makes it worse. IMHO you should not be able to view your passwords again, EVER! Fine enter it for me when I login to the site again, but being able to view it again should just not be an option. Encrypt it with a random key based on the time and machine serial, whatever, but keep it fvkcen safe, even from me.
Yeah whatever, go sit in front of your CRT and carry on with your tan, I'll be in Tamriel hunting dragons.
Obligatory bash quote /dev/hda && mkfs.xfs /dev/hda1 && mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/gentoo/ && chroot /mnt/gentoo/ && env-update && . /etc/profile && emerge sync && cd /usr/portage && scripts/bootsrap.sh && emerge system && emerge vim && vi /etc/fstab && emerge gentoo-dev-sources && cd /usr/src/linux && make menuconfig && make install modules_install && emerge gnome mozilla-firefox openoffice && emerge grub && cp /boot/grub/grub.conf.sample /boot/grub/grub.conf && vi /boot/grub/grub.conf && grub && init 6
it only takes three commands to install Gentoo
cfdisk
that's the first one
And that above all else is why Linux will be a haven for IT people and not the general populace. Want to change resolutions to something not shipped with your current flavour of free, you have to edit config files and google your monitors fvcken scan rates. Want to install xyz, sure no problem, here's the source code, no binaries soz, want to compile it download python, here's the source compile that first, want to compile that, soz, you need library ab fucken z, soz wrong version because it's changed 20 times in the last 20 fucken minutes. Oh sorry you downloaded the wrong version, this was forked because the developers got their panty's in a twist you want the OTHER fork.
The Linux install managers are helping a great deal, but even with those at some point you have to drop to the console to do stuff. Most windows users do not even know what a command prompt is.
Until Linux fixes that it will always lag behind windows.
Linux : But we don't have any viruses!
Why write a virus for 5% of the population who could decompile the virus and find the CnC?
Clearly you don't like a clean screen. The last thing I want is fingerprints all over my monitor. I am constantly wiping down my tablet. When work pig's walk up to me eating taco's and then insist on jabbing at my screen like retards instead of saying "line 256" I want to beat them to death with my chair. Touch screens are a fvck up, until we stop secreting oil they will always be a fvck up. I need to see what's on my screen, not misread an 8 as a 6 because of crap on my screen.
Should be the other way round, first serve in prison, if you survive, you get to be president. I still like David Eddings idea, the people who want to serve as president are automatically disqualified. Then you put everyone else's name in a hat and draw randomly. That person's assets are then seized and sold off, the money going into the countries coffers. At the end of the term if the country did well and his money is still in the coffers he gets it back, if it didn't do so well then he doesn't get it back. Seems better than listening to baby kissing liars, promising the world with one hand while holding the dildo behind his back with the other.
Hey but at least you are safe! America, land of the not so free.
Erm, is it not usually called a Saturday Night Special?
The NSA are going to love this! Or maybe they already know how to do it and John Pointdexter and Oliver North really meant it when they kept saying "I have no clear recollection of that." at the Iran Contra trial.
We had a similar situation, while working at a large bank we migrated all OUR stuff off of an old server onto a shiny new one. We thought we were the only ones using the server, so once we were done we switched it off. Got a call a couple of days later from across the country - please switch the server back on. Someone had written a C++ reporting tool for clearcase and deployed it to the machine, done some whack sort of configuration on the machine to get it to work. When we tried to migrate it to the new server it refused to work. No source code, no idea who had written it in the first place. So we plugged it back in and stuck it in a corner of the server room. AFAIK it's still sitting there spewing out one report a week and doing nothing else.
That's why it's called an estimate.
I have been writing software for many years now, been involved in the design and planning stages of lots of projects big and small. People who are not in the software industry find it hard to believe how expensive it is to write software. It takes lots of hours, lots of skills and lots of coffee. The programmers/designers/analysts/grapics artists all have to be paid for their time (it's called a salary). Then there is office space, electricity, furniture, computers, servers, etc. A top end server to run a popular website can cost millions, and they are usually in a server farm so there is more than one. Some of the bigger projects take years to complete, even with a large team. Credits in games now run like credits in a movie (long ass list). Pay for your software, it costs money to make it (yes even crazy birds) and the people who make it should be compensated for their time and effort. Sure I pirate the odd program and game, but only for programs I am going to use once and then never use again, which does not make my pirating right, it does make me a thief, no matter how you try to rationalize it.
Unless the real artist is Metallica that is.
I couldn't agree more, now that the driver issue is sorted out (mostly - some legacy crap still won't run). I was an early adopter of Vista and liked it a lot. I do agree though that it was more of a resource hog than xp, but I have always maintained a decent gaming rig and did not really notice any performance issues when changing to Vista.
Fvck that, downloading pron at 28.8k sucked.