It was about 8:55 that someone came into the noc, and said 'My mom just called, someone crashed an airplane into the world trade center'. I got up, and went down the hall to our executive conference room, which has a great view of NYC. To my shock, there was huge clouds of smoke billowing around the upper third of the building, and I could see flickers of flame comming from the huge hole. Someone in the office had a pair of binoculars, and I could see even more details. There was a bit of debate over how this happened, and if this was accidental or not. I was on the view that there was no way this could be an accident.
After looking at this sight for a few minutes, I went back to the NOC, and was informing coworkers of what I saw. Someone came in, and said "Another airplane hit the other building!". I ran down the hallways again, and sure enough, there was the flames and the fires. I felt sick, as I was sure this was not accidental. And one of my first thoughts was 'Bin Laden.'.
I don't really remember the next few minutes that well, but I do remember standing in an office nearby when the first building went down. Puffs of smoke were comming up from the bottom, and we all thought another bomb had gone off. Remember, at this time we were hearing reports of bombings at the capital, the pentagon, the mall, and the whitehouse. We all stood dumbly as the bulding fell, and I don't think anyone spoke. And a little after that, the other one came down. I did not see that one, for which I am glad. The sight of the first one is going to haunt me as long as I live I fear.
God help us, God help the victims, and God help those poor bastards who did this. Our revenge will be terrible.
I work right across the river from NYC, and around 9 someone told me that a plane had hit the WTC. I ran down to the conference room and saw a huge cloud of smoke. There was a giant hole in the building, and i could see the flames licking out. A few minutes later, the second airplane hit in a huge explosion. I went back to my office to talk to co-workers, and about 20 minutes later, went back to the conference room. I just got there when there was this huge puff of dust and smoke, and I saw the building fall.
Please, if anyone wants to help, go see your local red cross, and donate a few pints of blood. We are going to need it.
Wtf? Rob, there is a bug, my whole comment has disappeared. *sigh* Guess I will have to repost.
With all the news lately about high profile 'cybercrime', and the foundation of 9 new divisions to help combat it, the FBI is under a lot of pressure to provide a lot of results and visibility. In essence, they have to make a lot of arrests, valid or not, to warrent the increased budget they have been given. No arrests, no money. The agents on this case probably realize that he had good intent, but they needed to arrest him anyways, just to get their stats up. They also know that he most likely will get off, but well, thats not THEIR problem. They just arrested him, DA's are supposed to get convictions.
And if it costs this poor bastard thousands of dollars? Sorry bub, but they gotta keep their budget.
With all the news lately about high profile 'cybercrime', and the foundation of 9 new divisions to help combat it, the FBI is under a lot of pressure to provide results and visibility. In essence, they have to make a lot of arrests, valid or not, to warrent the increased budget they have been given. No arrests, no money. The agents on this case probably realize that he had good intent, but they needed to arrest him anyways, just to get their stats up. They also know that he most likely will get off, but well, thats not THEIR problem. They just arrested him, DA's are supposed to get convictions.
And if it costs this poor bastard thousands of dollars? Sorry bub, but they gotta keep their budget.
I would like to point out that it was unix in the 80's that helped illustrate fundemental security issues. We learned from our lessions. Why do these things have to happen again?
Unfortunatly your wrong. I was watching NASA TV, and they were talking about how the airlock actualy is two parts, so they can pump the air out back into the station, then open the door to space. They say this is supposed to save a lot of weight on resupply missions, and a lot of money
So any farts that are released are kept in the station.
For a better look at the horrors of Stalingrad, try the moive named (appropriately) Stalingrad. It was produced by the same people who did "Das Boot", and has many horrible scenes. One that stands out for me was near the begining, during some extra brutal house to house fighting, one member of the platoon kills his best friend. Another soldier tells him "Thats ok, I've done it too. If he was a russian you would be the one dead." I really think that this movie better depects the cold, the suffering, the hunger and the misery of this battle.
Oh, and John? Whats this about starting a two front war if they lost Stalingrad? They already HAD a 3 front war. Africa/Italy, the east, and the airwar. After the normandy invasion the germans were fighting a four(!) front war.
Lets not get out panties in a bunch. Check this link out.
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Of course, it then goes on to say that libraries can only have digital copies for backup reasons, not to lend. But I think its fairly blatant that the publishers do not have a legal leg to stand on if they decide to go after the librarians. Beware of the wrath of Conan the Librarian.
I used to live in Tampa, and one night me and some friends went ut to a techno club, only to have the club be raided as a 'fire inspection'. They kicked everyone out, and started randomly searching people. On the way out the door we had to pause and look at a video camera that some cop was using to tape us, then walk a gauntlet of rather rude and beligerant cops yelling at us 'young druggies'. Oh, how I loved the tampa PD after that one.
In the long run, what does wine do for linux. In the short run it will let us play our games under linux, but really, is that good for us? I can just see the following:
CEO: So the release date of Mega War 2 is due on the 15th of November. Is everything going to our timeframe?
Lacky: Yessir, but are we going to allow a linux port of this game? The linux community has a lot of gammers in it and they would love this type of game.
CEO: (thinks) No, I don't think we need to waste time training our programmers on the linux style. They have that wine thingy, if they want to play our game they can just buy the windows version and play it that way. Becides, if they have problems we can just tell them to play it on windows. Easy tech support.
So really, does wine help us in the linux community? I'd love to play halflife: counterstrike under linux as much as the next guy, but are we cutting our throats really? Why would some company spend extra money to bring it over here (or allow someone like loki to see the source code) when they can just write once and be done?
Actualy the book and the movie were written at the same time. To quote the IMDB's trivia page:
Stanley Kubrick initially approached Arthur C. Clarke by saying that he wanted to make "the proverbial good science-fiction movie". Clarke suggested that "The Sentinel", a short story he wrote in 1948, story would provide a suitable premise. Clarke had written the story for a BBC competition, but it didn't even make the shortlist.
The screenplay was written primarily by Kubrick and the novel primarily by Clarke, each workingsimultaneously and also providing feedback to the other. As the story went through many revisions, changes in the novel were taken over into the screenplay and vice versa. It was also unclear whether film or novel would be released first; in the end it was the film. Kubrick was to have been credited as second author of the novel, but in the end was not. It is believed that Kubrick deliberately withheld his approval of the novel as to not hurt the release of the film.
The government already made $1000 dollars, and hasn't provided me a service for it
So who then pays for and maintains the roads you drive on? Corporations? Funny, I have not seen Microsoft Highway or Red Hat Lane recently. Little green men? No! The governement that taxed you that thousand dollars gives you many servies. They maintain the roads, put up streetlights, pay for the police and fire departments, and many other thngs. Lets not bitch about taxes so much, because taxes are what keeps the country running. If you have to bitch, at least bitch about the government when it wastes your tax dollars.
I have a few ideas on how to keep trained employees.
One: If they leave within a year, make them pay for the training. It sounds mean, but it works. The company that I work for does the same thing. We consider it our invisible leash, but I think its fair. If they are going to spend thousands of dollars on me, they deserve something out of me. And I get to be trained on the latest and greatest things. Makes me happy, makes them happy. But don't make the leash last more than a year. Anything more than that might scare away candidates.
Two: Compensate them well. In a technical company, us techs are the lifes blood of the company. Marketing, sales, legal, all very important people, but in this economy we have now, techs are very valued, and deserve to be paid for their skills. Its easy to get another salesman, they are a dime a dozen, but finding another perl guru might be a wee bit difficult. If you don't pay your tech's well, they will easily jump ship as soon as their invisible leash breaks, and take them and their skills YOU paid for to another company for more money. Plus more pay helps loyalty too. Stock options are nice too.
Three: Listen to your techs, and make them feel like real members of the company I can't count how many times I've seen/heard techs give a honest and non flattering review of something only to be disregarded and ignored. Then when the project or the machine blows up, the techs get jumped on for not getting it to work correctly. And don't let saleman Bob define how things must work. An overview, perhaps, but not cramming specs down tech's throats. Give them some freedom and power to play (which is what makes them good techs) and you will be amazed. But don't let them go nuts either. Know when to put the breaks on things. Finaly, make them feel part of the team, not the stepchildren you have hidden in the server room.
It makes a great deal of sense to punish these people. Much like the discussion previously on/., this is about people putting software onto computers they do not own, and they do not have the rights to do.
I do not work for any government agency, but I can well believe that the CIA, NSA, and other inteligence agencies screen with a fine tooth comb the software that goes into their networks. One little backdoor, or one little segment of code that sends logs outside the network is all that is needed for a potentialy serious breach of national security. And don't forget that lives can and are at stake. ICQ may seem harmless, but would you risk someone's life over it?
All you idiots who say that your vote does not count, I hope that you are learning from this. I'm sure there are a lot of people in florida who are kicking themselves in the rear right now for not voting.
On a side note, I just heard on the radio that there is some confusion going on in West Palm Beach. Seems that around 3000, people who wanted to vote for Gore accidentaly voted for Buchanan due to a problem with the voting booths. Hmmmmmm. I hear the conspiracy theorists going to town now.
I'm getting really tired of all this hype about the P2. ESPECIALY from slashdot. You know, the same slashdot that posts many stories about how Rambus is evil for suing eveyone and their mother who even though about DDR SDRam. Or Sony who is part of both the evil RIAA and MPAA. And what happens? We get articles upon articles about the SONY playstation 2 run on RAMBUS RDram. So what is it...we scream about how evil something is until they give us something we want, then we shut up? Our our morals bought that easily? If you are that concerned about your rights being stripped away, don't support the companies that are doing it!
The problem with this idea is that you have to PAY the guy who knows what he's talking about. And pay him well, since said tech could easily go out and get a much better job for much more money if he knows that much stuff. And becides, working tech support is about the lowest rank in the computer field. I used to do tech support, and after a few months of getting calls like 'why can't I use my modem! Fix it!' I wanted to reach through and strangle the people on the other side.
Everyone who's screaming about personal privacy being violated, please repeat after me. "The machines my company gives me do not belong to me. I have no rights to privacy on company machines. I cannot do whatever I want to company machines. I cannot install Linux on company machines if they don't tell me I can. I can be looked at any time to see what I am doing on a machine that the company is loaning me to do work for them. If I want privacy and the ability to do things to machines, I can do them to machines that I actualy own. Otherwise, I will not whine."
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Two things. First one is slightly nitpicky. I did not say revenge and God in the same sentence.
The second thing is this. Check out. Judges 16:28, and Ezekiel 25:17.
It was about 8:55 that someone came into the noc, and said 'My mom just called, someone crashed an airplane into the world trade center'. I got up, and went down the hall to our executive conference room, which has a great view of NYC. To my shock, there was huge clouds of smoke billowing around the upper third of the building, and I could see flickers of flame comming from the huge hole. Someone in the office had a pair of binoculars, and I could see even more details. There was a bit of debate over how this happened, and if this was accidental or not. I was on the view that there was no way this could be an accident.
After looking at this sight for a few minutes, I went back to the NOC, and was informing coworkers of what I saw. Someone came in, and said "Another airplane hit the other building!". I ran down the hallways again, and sure enough, there was the flames and the fires. I felt sick, as I was sure this was not accidental. And one of my first thoughts was 'Bin Laden.'.
I don't really remember the next few minutes that well, but I do remember standing in an office nearby when the first building went down. Puffs of smoke were comming up from the bottom, and we all thought another bomb had gone off. Remember, at this time we were hearing reports of bombings at the capital, the pentagon, the mall, and the whitehouse. We all stood dumbly as the bulding fell, and I don't think anyone spoke. And a little after that, the other one came down. I did not see that one, for which I am glad. The sight of the first one is going to haunt me as long as I live I fear.
God help us, God help the victims, and God help those poor bastards who did this. Our revenge will be terrible.
I work right across the river from NYC, and around 9 someone told me that a plane had hit the WTC. I ran down to the conference room and saw a huge cloud of smoke. There was a giant hole in the building, and i could see the flames licking out. A few minutes later, the second airplane hit in a huge explosion. I went back to my office to talk to co-workers, and about 20 minutes later, went back to the conference room. I just got there when there was this huge puff of dust and smoke, and I saw the building fall.
Please, if anyone wants to help, go see your local red cross, and donate a few pints of blood. We are going to need it.
Wtf? Rob, there is a bug, my whole comment has disappeared. *sigh* Guess I will have to repost.
With all the news lately about high profile 'cybercrime', and the foundation of 9 new divisions to help combat it, the FBI is under a lot of pressure to provide a lot of results and visibility. In essence, they have to make a lot of arrests, valid or not, to warrent the increased budget they have been given. No arrests, no money. The agents on this case probably realize that he had good intent, but they needed to arrest him anyways, just to get their stats up. They also know that he most likely will get off, but well, thats not THEIR problem. They just arrested him, DA's are supposed to get convictions.
And if it costs this poor bastard thousands of dollars? Sorry bub, but they gotta keep their budget.
Is this right? You tell me.
With all the news lately about high profile 'cybercrime', and the foundation of 9 new divisions to help combat it, the FBI is under a lot of pressure to provide results and visibility. In essence, they have to make a lot of arrests, valid or not, to warrent the increased budget they have been given. No arrests, no money. The agents on this case probably realize that he had good intent, but they needed to arrest him anyways, just to get their stats up. They also know that he most likely will get off, but well, thats not THEIR problem. They just arrested him, DA's are supposed to get convictions.
And if it costs this poor bastard thousands of dollars? Sorry bub, but they gotta keep their budget.
Is this right? You tell me.
I would like to point out that it was unix in the 80's that helped illustrate fundemental security issues. We learned from our lessions. Why do these things have to happen again?
Northpoint - Puked and dead.
Covad - Just Coughed up a death hairball.
Rhythms - Going down like the Titanic.
Verizon - Only had to pay 1.5 million dollars to put the competiton out of business.
Jeeze. Verizon sure got East Coast DSL domination cheep.
....I can run win95 minesweeper under wine under linux under palmOS under Ipaq?
Unfortunatly your wrong. I was watching NASA TV, and they were talking about how the airlock actualy is two parts, so they can pump the air out back into the station, then open the door to space. They say this is supposed to save a lot of weight on resupply missions, and a lot of money
So any farts that are released are kept in the station.
I guess this blows the 'More secure than linux out of the box' concept out of the water.
For a better look at the horrors of Stalingrad, try the moive named (appropriately) Stalingrad. It was produced by the same people who did "Das Boot", and has many horrible scenes. One that stands out for me was near the begining, during some extra brutal house to house fighting, one member of the platoon kills his best friend. Another soldier tells him "Thats ok, I've done it too. If he was a russian you would be the one dead." I really think that this movie better depects the cold, the suffering, the hunger and the misery of this battle.
Oh, and John? Whats this about starting a two front war if they lost Stalingrad? They already HAD a 3 front war. Africa/Italy, the east, and the airwar. After the normandy invasion the germans were fighting a four(!) front war.
Lets not get out panties in a bunch. Check this link out.
108. Limitations on exclusive rights: Reproduction by libraries and archives
(a) Except as otherwise provided in this title and notwithstanding the provisions of section 106, it is not an infringement of copyright for a library or archives, or any of its employees acting within the scope of their employment, to reproduce no more than one copy or phonorecord of a work, except as provided in subsections (b) and (c), or to distribute such copy or phonorecord, under the conditions specified by this section, if-
(1) the reproduction or distribution is made without any purpose of direct or indirect commercial advantage;
(2) the collections of the library or archives are (i) open to the public, or (ii) available not only to researchers affiliated with the library or archives or with the institution of which it is a part, but also to other persons doing research in a specialized field; and
(3) the reproduction or distribution of the work includes a notice of copyright that appears on the copy or phonorecord that is reproduced under the provisions of this section, or includes a legend stating that the work may be protected by copy-right if no such notice can be found on the copy or phonorecord that is reproduced under the provisions of this section.
Of course, it then goes on to say that libraries can only have digital copies for backup reasons, not to lend. But I think its fairly blatant that the publishers do not have a legal leg to stand on if they decide to go after the librarians. Beware of the wrath of Conan the Librarian.
I used to live in Tampa, and one night me and some friends went ut to a techno club, only to have the club be raided as a 'fire inspection'. They kicked everyone out, and started randomly searching people. On the way out the door we had to pause and look at a video camera that some cop was using to tape us, then walk a gauntlet of rather rude and beligerant cops yelling at us 'young druggies'. Oh, how I loved the tampa PD after that one.
In the long run, what does wine do for linux. In the short run it will let us play our games under linux, but really, is that good for us? I can just see the following:
CEO: So the release date of Mega War 2 is due on the 15th of November. Is everything going to our timeframe?
Lacky: Yessir, but are we going to allow a linux port of this game? The linux community has a lot of gammers in it and they would love this type of game.
CEO: (thinks) No, I don't think we need to waste time training our programmers on the linux style. They have that wine thingy, if they want to play our game they can just buy the windows version and play it that way. Becides, if they have problems we can just tell them to play it on windows. Easy tech support.
So really, does wine help us in the linux community? I'd love to play halflife: counterstrike under linux as much as the next guy, but are we cutting our throats really? Why would some company spend extra money to bring it over here (or allow someone like loki to see the source code) when they can just write once and be done?
Actualy the book and the movie were written at the same time. To quote the IMDB's trivia page:
Stanley Kubrick initially approached Arthur C. Clarke by saying that he wanted to make "the proverbial good science-fiction movie". Clarke suggested that "The Sentinel", a short story he wrote in 1948, story would provide a suitable premise. Clarke had written the story for a BBC competition, but it didn't even make the shortlist.
The screenplay was written primarily by Kubrick and the novel primarily by Clarke, each workingsimultaneously and also providing feedback to the other. As the story went through many revisions, changes in the novel were taken over into the screenplay and vice versa. It was also unclear whether film or novel would be released first; in the end it was the film. Kubrick was to have been credited as second author of the novel, but in the end was not. It is believed that Kubrick deliberately withheld his approval of the novel as to not hurt the release of the film.
The government already made $1000 dollars, and hasn't provided me a service for it
So who then pays for and maintains the roads you drive on? Corporations? Funny, I have not seen Microsoft Highway or Red Hat Lane recently. Little green men? No! The governement that taxed you that thousand dollars gives you many servies. They maintain the roads, put up streetlights, pay for the police and fire departments, and many other thngs. Lets not bitch about taxes so much, because taxes are what keeps the country running. If you have to bitch, at least bitch about the government when it wastes your tax dollars.
I have a few ideas on how to keep trained employees.
One: If they leave within a year, make them pay for the training.
It sounds mean, but it works. The company that I work for does the same thing. We consider it our invisible leash, but I think its fair. If they are going to spend thousands of dollars on me, they deserve something out of me. And I get to be trained on the latest and greatest things. Makes me happy, makes them happy. But don't make the leash last more than a year. Anything more than that might scare away candidates.
Two: Compensate them well.
In a technical company, us techs are the lifes blood of the company. Marketing, sales, legal, all very important people, but in this economy we have now, techs are very valued, and deserve to be paid for their skills. Its easy to get another salesman, they are a dime a dozen, but finding another perl guru might be a wee bit difficult. If you don't pay your tech's well, they will easily jump ship as soon as their invisible leash breaks, and take them and their skills YOU paid for to another company for more money. Plus more pay helps loyalty too. Stock options are nice too.
Three: Listen to your techs, and make them feel like real members of the company
I can't count how many times I've seen/heard techs give a honest and non flattering review of something only to be disregarded and ignored. Then when the project or the machine blows up, the techs get jumped on for not getting it to work correctly. And don't let saleman Bob define how things must work. An overview, perhaps, but not cramming specs down tech's throats. Give them some freedom and power to play (which is what makes them good techs) and you will be amazed. But don't let them go nuts either. Know when to put the breaks on things. Finaly, make them feel part of the team, not the stepchildren you have hidden in the server room.
It makes a great deal of sense to punish these people. Much like the discussion previously on /., this is about people putting software onto computers they do not own, and they do not have the rights to do.
I do not work for any government agency, but I can well believe that the CIA, NSA, and other inteligence agencies screen with a fine tooth comb the software that goes into their networks. One little backdoor, or one little segment of code that sends logs outside the network is all that is needed for a potentialy serious breach of national security. And don't forget that lives can and are at stake. ICQ may seem harmless, but would you risk someone's life over it?
All you idiots who say that your vote does not count, I hope that you are learning from this. I'm sure there are a lot of people in florida who are kicking themselves in the rear right now for not voting.
On a side note, I just heard on the radio that there is some confusion going on in West Palm Beach. Seems that around 3000, people who wanted to vote for Gore accidentaly voted for Buchanan due to a problem with the voting booths. Hmmmmmm. I hear the conspiracy theorists going to town now.
Since they are already up there above our heads, would that not make today the first day?
This one is old, I know, but I have to do it.
Why do computer programmers get halloween and christmas mixed up?
Because oct(31)==dec(25)
He added that members also wanted one-click access...
;)
Does this mean we will see an AOL vrs. Amazon.com fight comming soon?
I'm getting really tired of all this hype about the P2. ESPECIALY from slashdot. You know, the same slashdot that posts many stories about how Rambus is evil for suing eveyone and their mother who even though about DDR SDRam. Or Sony who is part of both the evil RIAA and MPAA. And what happens? We get articles upon articles about the SONY playstation 2 run on RAMBUS RDram. So what is it...we scream about how evil something is until they give us something we want, then we shut up? Our our morals bought that easily? If you are that concerned about your rights being stripped away, don't support the companies that are doing it!
The problem with this idea is that you have to PAY the guy who knows what he's talking about. And pay him well, since said tech could easily go out and get a much better job for much more money if he knows that much stuff. And becides, working tech support is about the lowest rank in the computer field. I used to do tech support, and after a few months of getting calls like 'why can't I use my modem! Fix it!' I wanted to reach through and strangle the people on the other side.
Everyone who's screaming about personal privacy being violated, please repeat after me. "The machines my company gives me do not belong to me. I have no rights to privacy on company machines. I cannot do whatever I want to company machines. I cannot install Linux on company machines if they don't tell me I can. I can be looked at any time to see what I am doing on a machine that the company is loaning me to do work for them. If I want privacy and the ability to do things to machines, I can do them to machines that I actualy own. Otherwise, I will not whine."
Now keep saying that until you grok it.