Forgive me if I'm being snippy, but why is this a major issue? Yes, we've talked about problems with Rh 7.0. Yes, we've bitched about the new GCC shipping about it. But what is this, open season on RH? Since they are well known and popular, did they suddenly become evil that we have to slam on them all the time? It would appear to an outside observer who might read/. for the first time that RH is junk. And who knows how many people might have gotten that impression and decided not to switch to linux from NT.
I don't see as the exploits are needed. Sure, they should release them to those responsible for fixing the software, but there's no need to release them to the general public.
I would have to agree with this. Further more, by publishing exploits to the general public, you are just giving script kiddies the tools to break into something. Why make it easier for them to break into machines. If they are gonna do it, at least make them code up the exploits themselves. And hey, who knows. That young kid who right now is wipping some exploit up might grow up and turn into a serious responsible kernel hacker.
First of all, I love Hawkings work on theoretical physics. A Brief History of Time was a very well written that helped a layman like myself understand Einstein. HOWEVER, that being said I have two comments.
One: He's a theoretical Physist. He has as much authority in earth science as Linus has in Partical physics. Both of them are brilliant in their field, but they should probably stay in their field. Really, his view is about as qualified as Cmdr Taco's.
Two: A thousand years is really out of the realm of good prediction. Who knows what will happen in the next 50 years, let alone a thousand years from now. Humans have only been seriously poluting the enviornment for about 160 years, since the start of the industrial revolution. Two hundred years might be better, and if we can get our act together in the next two hundred we should be able to fix what we have broken. It won't be easy, but we should be able to do it.
...destroy your TV. Ever notice that a lot of people get edgy and can't concentrate 25 minutes and 50 minutes into a project? Gee. I wonder why THAT is.
This gentleman seems to be a fairly friendly guy. Would it be possible that someone from/. contact him and see if he's interested in being interviewed? I'd have a fair amount to ask him.
Second of all, yes, Qwest is a long distance company. However, we do other things besides long distance. The group I work in, QIS (Qwest Internet Solutions) hosts a lot of big name sites. We are the third largest carrier of internet traffic now, and are growing fast.
US West deal: Yes, it should be going through. Its not my department, but as far as I know, we are getting state approval for the merger.
What is the other companies part in this? I don't know, ask them.:)
However, people should be aware that what happened in Germany was not Qwest itself, but another company called KpnQwest, which is a joint effort between us and KPN, a large teleco in Europe.
Actualy its not a weak argument. I have a p-200 with 32 megs of ram. Someday I'll upgrade to a faster machine, but right now it serves my purpose. The cd-rom is a 16 speed, which is not capable of digital data extraction or whatever it's called to rip a CD. It can play audio and digital CD's put not rip. *shrug* Don't ask me. As for why I would want to have MP3's of my CD'S? Simple. I have the Creative Nomad for when I go jogging. That doesnt skip when I run, and I can create my own set of music I want, and not have songs I don't want to hear.
Even thats not illegal. If someone else is in the same situation as me downloads from my machine, I have not committed a crime. Its not my job to determine if someone else is breaking the law. I may offer the files, but its the other person who's stealing if they do not own the CD.
I've been wondering about this for a while. Say say my name is on Metallica's list. I own every Metallica CD they have came out with (except re-load but thats another issue). I have the right to have copies of the songs in mp3 format, this has been proven in several court cases. Now, I have an older machine with a CD-ROM that cannot rip. So to get the songs I legally have a right to have in mp3 format I have to turn to the net. Fine, thats still not illegal. Metallica accuses me of being a pirate because some research agency pulled my name off the napster lists. They have no proof that I have done anything illegal, just that I have downloaded their songs. Isn't the burden of proof for these sorts of things on Metallica? If Metallica has me banned from Napster, could I take legal action against them for harrasment, defermation of character or other nasty things?
Hmm. Funny you should say that. I remember a tiny little game company that everyone said would fail because THEY didnt have hardly any marketing. This tiny little company called Cavedog going up against giants like Blizzard, Westwood, and EA. Especialy in a market that was already full. Funny thing was, Total Annihilation took off without a ton of hype. History does repeat itself.
Dotcomguy? What a dumb name first of all, but i guess the stunt is working, since we are talking about it and bringing attention to it. I have a question however. What happens, say, six months from now when Mr. Dotcomguy has a medical problem. Is Mr. Dotcomguy going to look up on the web how to do a apendechtomy or will he be allowed to leave the house for that.
And hey, I have one better. Install Windows 98 on a bunch of older machines. That sure feels like your spending a year in your own home.
Well, what this means is what everyone knew before hand if offical now. What I found ammusing is on the microsoft homepage, they have link called 'DoJ vs. Freedom to innovate', as if it was a court case. Gee, perhaps there should be another link somewhere called 'Microsoft vs freedom to compete.'. People may complain that our legal system takes to long, but it does get the job done. Eventualy
Okey, i know this is a off topic, and I know I'm going to sound like a moron, but could someone explain to me why people refer to quantaties of storage they refer to byes, (kilobyte, megabyte) but when talking about transmission rates they talk in bits (10 megabits, 80 gbits). Can anyone enlighten me?
Actualy, the allies did a lot of research on a lot of odd weapons towards the end of the war. The A-bomb is the most well known, and probably the most 'effecient' of the superweapons, but they researched others such as:
-Special bombers filled with bats, with small timed charges. The theory was to drop the bats of Japanese cities, and the bats would rest in the mostly paper and wood houses when the bombs went off. -A special bomb to drop on the Mt. Fuji to paint it blue and red, to strike at the moral of the Japanese. -Another bomb, designed to penitrate Mt. Fuji and cause it to go volcanic. -A special device that would send out harmonic waves right on the fault lines near Japan, causing a earthquake.
-Japan had its program, such as the human torpedoe, which would be filled with explosives, and ridden into ships by underwater kamakazi pilots.
-Germany had its own superweapon programs. For example, a sound cannon that was actualy produced, that would be so loud and at such a pitch that it would kill enemy soldiers. -An 'OS' that would crash all the time and be the mon...er, wait, thats today. Sorry.
I remember back in '92 or '93 there was this great program called fractint that would do great looking fractals. Does anyone know of a updated program like that, or a more modern version? I loved playing with that back then, and would love to play with something like that again.
Since I work with a large financial firm, I did a little research and got the IPO form that Redhat filled out. I gave it a quick glance over, and found some interesting facts out of the risks section. The following quotes are taken directly from their Registration.
OUR ABILITY TO GENERATE REVENUE FROM SALES MAY BE ADVERSELY AFFECTED IF USERS CAN QUICKLY DOWNLOAD RED HAT LINUX FROM THE INTERNET
Red Hat's historical business has been based on the sale of Official Red Hat Linux. Using a standard telephone connection, a user can download Red Hat Linux from the Internet free of charge in approximately 36 hours. To avoid this significant download time, users can purchase the shrink-wrapped version of Official Red Hat Linux. If hardware and data transmission technology advances in the future to the point where increased bandwidth allows Red Hat Linux to be more quickly downloaded from the Internet, users may no longer choose to purchase Official Red Hat Linux. Any resulting decrease in product revenue, if significant, could have a material adverse effect on our business, operating results and financial condition.
WE EXPECT TO INCUR SUBSTANTIAL LOSSES IN THE FUTURE
We have incurred operating losses in three of our previous five fiscal years. We expect to substantially increase our sales and marketing, research and development and administrative expenses in the immediate future. In addition, we are investing considerable resources in our Web initiative. As a result, we expect to incur significant losses for the foreseeable future and cannot be certain when or if we will achieve profitability. Failure to become and remain profitable within the timeframe expected by investors may adversely affect the market price of our common stock and our ability to raise capital and continue operations.
OUR PRODUCTS ARE DEVELOPED AND LICENSED UNDER THE GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE WHICH MAY NOT BE ENFORCEABLE
The Linux kernel and the Red Hat Linux operating system have been developed under, and licensed pursuant to, the GNU General Public License (GPL). The GPL states that any program licensed under it may be liberally copied, modified and distributed. We know of no circumstance under which the GPL has been challenged or interpreted in court. Accordingly, it is possible that a court would hold the GPL to be unenforceable in the event that someone were to file a claim asserting proprietary rights in a program developed and distributed in accordance with the GPL. Any ruling by a court that the GPL is not enforceable, or that Linux-based operating systems, or significant portions of them, may not be liberally copied, modified or distributed, would have the effect of preventing us from selling or developing our products. This would have a material adverse effect on our business, operating results and financial condition.
I'm not trying to produce FUD in these area's, but these three things would be very scay to any PHB's out there, combined with the fact that they lost 130 million last year, don't expect the stock prices to go up like a rocket. I have the complete public report if anyone would like it.
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Forgive me if I'm being snippy, but why is this a major issue? Yes, we've talked about problems with Rh 7.0. Yes, we've bitched about the new GCC shipping about it. But what is this, open season on RH? Since they are well known and popular, did they suddenly become evil that we have to slam on them all the time? It would appear to an outside observer who might read /. for the first time that RH is junk. And who knows how many people might have gotten that impression and decided not to switch to linux from NT.
I don't see as the exploits are needed. Sure, they should release them to those responsible for fixing the software, but there's no need to release them to the general public.
I would have to agree with this. Further more, by publishing exploits to the general public, you are just giving script kiddies the tools to break into something. Why make it easier for them to break into machines. If they are gonna do it, at least make them code up the exploits themselves. And hey, who knows. That young kid who right now is wipping some exploit up might grow up and turn into a serious responsible kernel hacker.
First of all, I love Hawkings work on theoretical physics. A Brief History of Time was a very well written that helped a layman like myself understand Einstein. HOWEVER, that being said I have two comments.
One: He's a theoretical Physist. He has as much authority in earth science as Linus has in Partical physics. Both of them are brilliant in their field, but they should probably stay in their field. Really, his view is about as qualified as Cmdr Taco's.
Two: A thousand years is really out of the realm of good prediction. Who knows what will happen in the next 50 years, let alone a thousand years from now. Humans have only been seriously poluting the enviornment for about 160 years, since the start of the industrial revolution. Two hundred years might be better, and if we can get our act together in the next two hundred we should be able to fix what we have broken. It won't be easy, but we should be able to do it.
...destroy your TV. Ever notice that a lot of people get edgy and can't concentrate 25 minutes and 50 minutes into a project? Gee. I wonder why THAT is.
Could it be possible to get an interview with this person? I for one would love to ask him a few (ok, tons) of questions.
I'm rather curious as to what you mean by 'sold out'. Could you elaborate this please?
Check out this cartoon. I think it sums things up fairly well. You will need flash 4 to view it.
This gentleman seems to be a fairly friendly guy. Would it be possible that someone from /. contact him and see if he's interested in being interviewed? I'd have a fair amount to ask him.
First of all, I am a Qwest employee.
:)
Second of all, yes, Qwest is a long distance company. However, we do other things besides long distance. The group I work in, QIS (Qwest Internet Solutions) hosts a lot of big name sites. We are the third largest carrier of internet traffic now, and are growing fast.
US West deal: Yes, it should be going through. Its not my department, but as far as I know, we are getting state approval for the merger.
What is the other companies part in this? I don't know, ask them.
However, people should be aware that what happened in Germany was not Qwest itself, but another company called KpnQwest, which is a joint effort between us and KPN, a large teleco in Europe.
Hope this answers some questions.
Actualy its not a weak argument. I have a p-200 with 32 megs of ram. Someday I'll upgrade to a faster machine, but right now it serves my purpose. The cd-rom is a 16 speed, which is not capable of digital data extraction or whatever it's called to rip a CD. It can play audio and digital CD's put not rip. *shrug* Don't ask me. As for why I would want to have MP3's of my CD'S? Simple. I have the Creative Nomad for when I go jogging. That doesnt skip when I run, and I can create my own set of music I want, and not have songs I don't want to hear.
Even thats not illegal. If someone else is in the same situation as me downloads from my machine, I have not committed a crime. Its not my job to determine if someone else is breaking the law. I may offer the files, but its the other person who's stealing if they do not own the CD.
I've been wondering about this for a while. Say say my name is on Metallica's list. I own every Metallica CD they have came out with (except re-load but thats another issue). I have the right to have copies of the songs in mp3 format, this has been proven in several court cases. Now, I have an older machine with a CD-ROM that cannot rip. So to get the songs I legally have a right to have in mp3 format I have to turn to the net. Fine, thats still not illegal. Metallica accuses me of being a pirate because some research agency pulled my name off the napster lists. They have no proof that I have done anything illegal, just that I have downloaded their songs. Isn't the burden of proof for these sorts of things on Metallica? If Metallica has me banned from Napster, could I take legal action against them for harrasment, defermation of character or other nasty things?
Hmm. Funny you should say that. I remember a tiny little game company that everyone said would fail because THEY didnt have hardly any marketing. This tiny little company called Cavedog going up against giants like Blizzard, Westwood, and EA. Especialy in a market that was already full. Funny thing was, Total Annihilation took off without a ton of hype. History does repeat itself.
Now, if you could come up with a decompression algorithm that would ensure smooth operation, THAT would be something worth patenting.
And for those of us who are boycotting Amazon.com, you can find the book here.
Dotcomguy? What a dumb name first of all, but i guess the stunt is working, since we are talking about it and bringing attention to it. I have a question however. What happens, say, six months from now when Mr. Dotcomguy has a medical problem. Is Mr. Dotcomguy going to look up on the web how to do a apendechtomy or will he be allowed to leave the house for that.
And hey, I have one better. Install Windows 98 on a bunch of older machines. That sure feels like your spending a year in your own home.
I looked at the source code for this page, and it looks like it was hardcoded.
CENTER> This site will be live in: -10957 days!
What is this, free advertising by showing that you were not prepared? Like I'd buy software from people who didn't even patch their apps.
Well, what this means is what everyone knew before hand if offical now. What I found ammusing is on the microsoft homepage, they have link called 'DoJ vs. Freedom to innovate', as if it was a court case. Gee, perhaps there should be another link somewhere called 'Microsoft vs freedom to compete.'. People may complain that our legal system takes to long, but it does get the job done. Eventualy
Okey, i know this is a off topic, and I know I'm going to sound like a moron, but could someone explain to me why people refer to quantaties of storage they refer to byes, (kilobyte, megabyte) but when talking about transmission rates they talk in bits (10 megabits, 80 gbits). Can anyone enlighten me?
Actualy, the allies did a lot of research on a lot of odd weapons towards the end of the war. The A-bomb is the most well known, and probably the most 'effecient' of the superweapons, but they researched others such as:
-Special bombers filled with bats, with small timed charges. The theory was to drop the bats of Japanese cities, and the bats would rest in the mostly paper and wood houses when the bombs went off.
-A special bomb to drop on the Mt. Fuji to paint it blue and red, to strike at the moral of the Japanese.
-Another bomb, designed to penitrate Mt. Fuji and cause it to go volcanic.
-A special device that would send out harmonic waves right on the fault lines near Japan, causing a earthquake.
-Japan had its program, such as the human torpedoe, which would be filled with explosives, and ridden into ships by underwater kamakazi pilots.
-Germany had its own superweapon programs. For example, a sound cannon that was actualy produced, that would be so loud and at such a pitch that it would kill enemy soldiers.
-An 'OS' that would crash all the time and be the mon...er, wait, thats today. Sorry.
*grin* And does wired really matter now? I've read it, and found it for the most part fluff.
I remember back in '92 or '93 there was this great program called fractint that would do great looking fractals. Does anyone know of a updated program like that, or a more modern version? I loved playing with that back then, and would love to play with something like that again.
Since I work with a large financial firm, I did a little research and got the IPO form that Redhat filled out. I gave it a quick glance over, and found some interesting facts out of the risks section. The following quotes are taken directly from their Registration.
OUR ABILITY TO GENERATE REVENUE FROM SALES MAY BE ADVERSELY AFFECTED IF USERS
CAN QUICKLY DOWNLOAD RED HAT LINUX FROM THE INTERNET
Red Hat's historical business has been based on the sale of Official Red Hat
Linux. Using a standard telephone connection, a user can download Red Hat Linux
from the Internet free of charge in approximately 36 hours. To avoid this
significant download time, users can purchase the shrink-wrapped version of
Official Red Hat Linux. If hardware and data transmission technology advances in
the future to the point where increased bandwidth allows Red Hat Linux to be
more quickly downloaded from the Internet, users may no longer choose to
purchase Official Red Hat Linux. Any resulting decrease in product revenue, if
significant, could have a material adverse effect on our business, operating
results and financial condition.
WE EXPECT TO INCUR SUBSTANTIAL LOSSES IN THE FUTURE
We have incurred operating losses in three of our previous five fiscal
years. We expect to substantially increase our sales and marketing, research and
development and administrative expenses in the immediate future. In addition, we
are investing considerable resources in our Web initiative. As a result, we
expect to incur significant losses for the foreseeable future and cannot be
certain when or if we will achieve profitability. Failure to become and remain
profitable within the timeframe expected by investors may adversely affect the
market price of our common stock and our ability to raise capital and continue
operations.
OUR PRODUCTS ARE DEVELOPED AND LICENSED UNDER THE GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE
WHICH MAY NOT BE ENFORCEABLE
The Linux kernel and the Red Hat Linux operating system have been developed
under, and licensed pursuant to, the GNU General Public License (GPL). The GPL
states that any program licensed under it may be liberally copied, modified and
distributed. We know of no circumstance under which the GPL has been challenged
or interpreted in court. Accordingly, it is possible that a court would hold the
GPL to be unenforceable in the event that someone were to file a claim asserting
proprietary rights in a program developed and distributed in accordance with the
GPL. Any ruling by a court that the GPL is not enforceable, or that Linux-based
operating systems, or significant portions of them, may not be liberally copied,
modified or distributed, would have the effect of preventing us from selling or
developing our products. This would have a material adverse effect on our
business, operating results and financial condition.
I'm not trying to produce FUD in these area's, but these three things would be very scay to any PHB's out there, combined with the fact that they lost 130 million last year, don't expect the stock prices to go up like a rocket. I have the complete public report if anyone would like it.