Just for a simple reason that there is more than one computer in my household. In fact, everyone who has more than one computer (that runs linux) care about network transparency. Many many people have more than one computer. Many are also getting linux. I'd said lot of people care (or would care if they knew such thing was possible!) about network transparency. If not, a lot of people are gonna start caring in near future.
I've switched to linux full time around a year ago. I use windowmaker on slackware current. I don't necessarily (sp?) need a "file browser" much less "file browser/web browser." But if I had to pick one, windows explorer (in detailed view/eye candy off/hidden files on/web format off/with folder bar) whoops every other linux file browser. Nautilus? C'mone. Konquerer? Not much better. If you turn off all the eye candy, windows XP zips pretty fast on PII 266; I know cause my brother has it like that. KDE or Gnome? Yeah, useable, IF you turn the eye candy off. But while both fast enough, windows offers much better user experience.
Well, that certainly depends. I could run windowmaker on, say, pentium, and it would work great. Well, great until I start Mozilla! (or Opera for that matter, which is what I use. But Opera is less of a hog, it's pretty much the fastest GUI browser out there. but I digress.) My point is, with windowmaker, your program is the hog, _not_ the manager. With KDE or Gnome, the manager will certainly be a hog itself.
The Gnome stuff seems more light weight to me
I assume you don't mean Gnome environment vs WindowMaker. If you mean Gnome apps, I guess they could be lite. But that's not WindowMaker's problem. Just use gnome apps in WindowMaker.
WindowMaker is known as a lite desktop itself while providing pretty cool environment. Sawfish w/o Gnome seems pretty spartan to me.
jeez, "there's" could be "there was" too, you know. I have nothing against QT. I'm just mentioning it because there _was_ a "QT thingy." I also happen to know that it's fully resolved. I just say it because when I first started using linux, I asked my linux buddy about kde and gnome and which to use (cus I couldn't decide). He told be "use gnoem cus it's more free." So I did. Maybe I should have included the whole explanation. Probably not.
If you didn't get my post, it was pro-KDE. In fact, I type this on Opera which uses QT.
You don't like KDE? Maybe if you used WindowMaker you would!
Before I saw the light (WindowMaker/slackware), in the very beginning, I used Gnome. I liked it. I mean, after all, KDE _does_ have that windows wannabe look about it. Also there's that whole QT thingy.
Then I used WindowMaker. I still have kdelibs and all, just because the distro came with it. I use their nifty kmahjong and my brother still loves kspaceduel. And kword once in a while too. Do you know how much better kde apps look, compared to gnome apps? In windowmaker, (and NeXT, OS X) we have this thing called AppIcon. Some bad acting apps (like SDL programs and XEvil and xpdf just off top of mind) doesn't make AppIcon, so I have to emulate it. Most all of x apps just have AppIcon with (ugly) default icon. Some x apps (_all_ of kde programs included, also staroffice and gv from top of my mind) even supply it's own icon so that I don't have to hunt through/opt/gnome/share/pixmaps to give it the correct icon. No gnome apps have ever done that. All kde programs have their own icon for AppIcon. It just makes my life more beautiful and easier.
My bro covets my linux installation and wants to try linux out (maybe this summer). When he does, I would recommend KDE, just because it would make later transition easier. (He really likes windowmaker too.)
I don't know anything about X11 programming, so I don't know what the nature of these AppIcon is, but I know that they are a good thing. I may not like the whole K _desktop_ environment, but KDE apps surely are a Good Thing!
Heh, my desktop is a PIII 450Mhz with 10GB and 768MB of RAM. (With access to 140GB drive over NFS.) It's loud as hell though. That damned 350Watt power supply... -- Slackware 8.0 Dare to slack
I love it. I used to order 2 more IP, but I made do with a closet server/nat router. I run webserver on it for my boy scout troop with PHP and mysql. As well as an FTP server. I'm in highschool, so after I finish a report around 2 AM, I just save it to my home dir (on the server using nfs) and goto sleep. I just get it through ftp and print it out next morning at school.
I haven't had any problem what-so-ever with them. I get >200KB always downloading from kernel.org.
This is a troll, he most intentionally called it North Korea. Any body worth his salt would know that North Korea is a communist regime. We are talking about South Korea right now. So this is either a troll or an idiot.
I don't, spank you very much. Gee, lesse what exactly are in the directory... gaim, opera, doperwars, IglooFTP-PRO, etc...
None of the things root will ever need.
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OK, I'm really sick and tired of those people who say "Oh, I run binaries as root, so you do too."
Have you every thought of/usr/local?
./configure --prefix=/usr/local?
My/usr/local is writable by my staff. My staff consists of... me. So, I have root, my desktop login and staff. Just install stuff on/usr/local, as staff. Voila. Staff can't touch my $HOME or any of the system binaries. So any malicious script (at install time aka make install) is pretty much contained in.../usr/local.
Let's say I run a infected binary in/usr/local/bin as my desktop login. I loose my stuff. You can argue that this is just as bad, but my system is still not compromised.
I never sais unstable. (Ok, I said flakey, but) WinMaker itself is usuable. Like I said, it's a very small webserver. I don't use X all that much, as you can imagine. Only times I do is when I have to use the web for a sec. That's Opera. That is slow. In fact, practically most of the apps for X runs slow. I have no idea what you use on that 33Mhz machine, but as long as it's not a console, I bet it's slow.
You are acting stupid. That's just appealing to your irrational emotion. You _do_ have to be objective. Thos two issues of the company are not related. Your example certainly is related to each other.
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They may have had the way in.
Just not any more.
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Actually there is a good solution to this.
Sun Type 6 USB keyboard with such layout.
I don't know how clicky they are, but they are beyond "no-windows". They are SUN.
Can you say geek points?
Until I can get my hand on one of them, I've got my (windows) keyboard mapped to Sun Type5 style. But I've heard of "Unix" style Type6 usb.
Ones I've linked to have Sum Type5c layout (aka PC style with the bastardation of ctrl and esc)
If you mod me offtopic, I will buy you the original reddish iMac.
RH regular (ISO) doesn't come with LDP how-to's either... Slackware does, so I was surprised to find that it is so.
(I know it's a joke so don't mod me down)
Real men use Opera on Linux. And they don't fake no USER_AGENT string.
Most geeks don't have a love life. Besides, this is an absolutely idiotic April fool's joke. That Qt thing was great, tho.
Real men use Slackware.
No RPM. Not very friendly install. You better know what you are doing.
Mod me.
I love it when /. headline sounds like something from the onion.
You aren't really "everyone".
_I_ care about network transparency.
Just for a simple reason that there is more than one computer in my household. In fact, everyone who has more than one computer (that runs linux) care about network transparency. Many many people have more than one computer. Many are also getting linux. I'd said lot of people care (or would care if they knew such thing was possible!) about network transparency. If not, a lot of people are gonna start caring in near future.
I've switched to linux full time around a year ago. I use windowmaker on slackware current. I don't necessarily (sp?) need a "file browser" much less "file browser/web browser." But if I had to pick one, windows explorer (in detailed view/eye candy off/hidden files on/web format off/with folder bar) whoops every other linux file browser. Nautilus? C'mone. Konquerer? Not much better. If you turn off all the eye candy, windows XP zips pretty fast on PII 266; I know cause my brother has it like that. KDE or Gnome? Yeah, useable, IF you turn the eye candy off. But while both fast enough, windows offers much better user experience.
duh. you are right. but i'm not a native speaker so hah.
Well, that certainly depends. I could run windowmaker on, say, pentium, and it would work great. Well, great until I start Mozilla! (or Opera for that matter, which is what I use. But Opera is less of a hog, it's pretty much the fastest GUI browser out there. but I digress.) My point is, with windowmaker, your program is the hog, _not_ the manager. With KDE or Gnome, the manager will certainly be a hog itself.
The Gnome stuff seems more light weight to me
I assume you don't mean Gnome environment vs WindowMaker.
If you mean Gnome apps, I guess they could be lite. But that's not WindowMaker's problem. Just use gnome apps in WindowMaker.
WindowMaker is known as a lite desktop itself while providing pretty cool environment. Sawfish w/o Gnome seems pretty spartan to me.
jeez, "there's" could be "there was" too, you know. I have nothing against QT. I'm just mentioning it because there _was_ a "QT thingy." I also happen to know that it's fully resolved. I just say it because when I first started using linux, I asked my linux buddy about kde and gnome and which to use (cus I couldn't decide). He told be "use gnoem cus it's more free." So I did. Maybe I should have included the whole explanation. Probably not.
If you didn't get my post, it was pro-KDE. In fact, I type this on Opera which uses QT.
You don't like KDE? Maybe if you used WindowMaker you would!
/opt/gnome/share/pixmaps to give it the correct icon. No gnome apps have ever done that. All kde programs have their own icon for AppIcon. It just makes my life more beautiful and easier.
Before I saw the light (WindowMaker/slackware), in the very beginning, I used Gnome. I liked it. I mean, after all, KDE _does_ have that windows wannabe look about it. Also there's that whole QT thingy.
Then I used WindowMaker. I still have kdelibs and all, just because the distro came with it. I use their nifty kmahjong and my brother still loves kspaceduel. And kword once in a while too. Do you know how much better kde apps look, compared to gnome apps? In windowmaker, (and NeXT, OS X) we have this thing called AppIcon. Some bad acting apps (like SDL programs and XEvil and xpdf just off top of mind) doesn't make AppIcon, so I have to emulate it. Most all of x apps just have AppIcon with (ugly) default icon. Some x apps (_all_ of kde programs included, also staroffice and gv from top of my mind) even supply it's own icon so that I don't have to hunt through
My bro covets my linux installation and wants to try linux out (maybe this summer). When he does, I would recommend KDE, just because it would make later transition easier. (He really likes windowmaker too.)
I don't know anything about X11 programming, so I don't know what the nature of these AppIcon is, but I know that they are a good thing. I may not like the whole K _desktop_ environment, but KDE apps surely are a Good Thing!
Heh, my desktop is a PIII 450Mhz with 10GB and 768MB of RAM. (With access to 140GB drive over NFS.) It's loud as hell though. That damned 350Watt power supply...
--
Slackware 8.0
Dare to slack
Sorry, i've a question, not a troll or anything, just curious.
What exactly would win2k kernel security model would that be? I'm just not aware that nt kernels had that unix-secure-and-extendible philsophy.
I love it. I used to order 2 more IP, but I made do with a closet server/nat router. I run webserver on it for my boy scout troop with PHP and mysql. As well as an FTP server. I'm in highschool, so after I finish a report around 2 AM, I just save it to my home dir (on the server using nfs) and goto sleep. I just get it through ftp and print it out next morning at school.
I haven't had any problem what-so-ever with them. I get >200KB always downloading from kernel.org.
Also important, use softwares that support Alsa, then it doesn't have to go through that OSS compatibility thingymabobs.
This is a troll, he most intentionally called it North Korea. Any body worth his salt would know that North Korea is a communist regime. We are talking about South Korea right now. So this is either a troll or an idiot.
There is a keyboard shortcut. F12. It's not that hard.
I don't, spank you very much. Gee, lesse what exactly are in the directory... gaim, opera, doperwars, IglooFTP-PRO, etc...
None of the things root will ever need.
OK, I'm really sick and tired of those people who say "Oh, I run binaries as root, so you do too."
/usr/local?
/usr/local is writable by my staff. My staff consists of... me. So, I have root, my desktop login and staff. Just install stuff on /usr/local, as staff. Voila. Staff can't touch my $HOME or any of the system binaries. So any malicious script (at install time aka make install) is pretty much contained in... /usr/local.
/usr/local/bin as my desktop login. I loose my stuff. You can argue that this is just as bad, but my system is still not compromised.
Have you every thought of
./configure --prefix=/usr/local?
My
Let's say I run a infected binary in
This isn't rocket science, guys.
I never sais unstable. (Ok, I said flakey, but) WinMaker itself is usuable. Like I said, it's a very small webserver. I don't use X all that much, as you can imagine. Only times I do is when I have to use the web for a sec. That's Opera. That is slow. In fact, practically most of the apps for X runs slow. I have no idea what you use on that 33Mhz machine, but as long as it's not a console, I bet it's slow.
That magazine has the most bw/p (buzzword per page) than any other in the whole wide world.
HAHA
You are acting stupid. That's just appealing to your irrational emotion. You _do_ have to be objective. Thos two issues of the company are not related. Your example certainly is related to each other.