Please note that the above artical doesn't apply to this thread. The Korean Air deployment was from a IBM-Zserver. That would be one box capable of 50,000 simultaious, completly seperate linux images. All of which can, but none of which are running a 'desktop'.
All user interfaces are done on IBM netTerminals that have a thier own firmware to handle user interactions. Linux on the Zserver is limited right now to around 90 really really powerful linux server images, and no direct client connections. The IBM netTerminal's internal application only makes TCP calls to the server. Clients do not use shell accounts, and no GUI login exist for them on the server. Hope I didn't burt your bubble, but trust me on this one...
It would seem that the same the balk at a new device that is as cheep as this one, are the same people that bitch and complain that the only options out there are brought to us by the same corperate whores that they DO support.
I'll order one, and if it sucks, it was still cheeper then any MS license fee...
Today I was the first subject to ever get stoned in space. It took an abnomally short amount of time for the cotton mouth to kick in. Note that I bumped my helmet on the floor of the station, and just laughed for hours. during the 4 hour experiment, my recordings show that I sat laughing, farting, and pissing myself for 3.98 hours. Tomarrow, I will lend my body to the betterment of man kind by being the first person to inject tar in space...
Everybody meet me at that new microbrewery... Meet me at the elevators at 5:25, and we will take my plane
Watch out for that Curb!!!!
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I can't wait for thye first beer related accedent. We can start a chapter for M - others A - gainst D - runk D - Driveing -and- A - sternaut S - afety S - tandards
No, really, is there anybody here that still uses microsoft frontpage to do thier web work? After all, it's still okay to use VI or EMACS to bash the tyrants...
most sky scrapers already do this. A/C techs will already know that the process by witch one cools a building, is to remove the heat. I didn't see an example of how an HVAC system on http://www.howstuffworks.com/ac3.htm but this link shows the general principle as HVAC systems operate mostly the same as with the smaller AC units.
The trick that is hard to understand is that AC removes heat, there by creating air that is less hot. Then the less hot air (always 20 degrees cooler than ambient temp) is blown from the radiator. We geek can understand compression and how compression creates heat. and that decompression discards heat.
AC units create a vacuum of 0 mpsi (measurable pounds per square inch) when the cooling gas (frieon) is pushed into the cooling side of the unit. as the gas passes through, it absorbs the heat from the surrounding air.
Then the compressor takes the heated up coolant, super compresses it. and shoots it to a radiator tubing that is on the outside or in this case top of the unit.
the freon has a change to decompress loosing the heat that it generated inside the "cool zone" when it has lost it's heat, it is sent thought a valve that removes the vacuum and the possess starts all over...
Practical application? the multistory building that you are in, already us the heat in the building to cool it.
We have already commitments with the leasing company that will be rebuilding the twin towers. We have very little doubt that they will be attacked like that again, and the next structures that they build will be able to handle a much stronger impact. so when you ask
how many people are going to be happy working in tall buildings?
i know of plenty... and it would be great if the energy bill was already taken care of... you know?
Microsoft has a unique position in its market. It's not like IBM at all. I want to see Microsoft punished as much as the next guy, but I can see how important it is to attack them the right way, right away. It's times like these that I wish I had finished law sch....
oh wait, I wish I had started law school. Bill is the Borg. Fine we can all agree on that, but even the most ANTI-M$ of us can realize what happens if they are allowed to stand. You think MPAA or RIAA is bad? Wait until you have an arrogant M$ with lawyers cocked and loaded banging on the door to verify your corporate licenses.
The problem with this type of case is it opens too many doors if it's not successful. Not unlike the double jeopardy laws that we in the US enjoy, once a suit like this fails, there is VERY little chance of anybody ever bringing a successful suit of those grounds ever again. My thought is that they should wait and let a company with more experience go for it. My guess is that they are just trying to get paid.
could you define replicate? I worked at a Goodyear tire plant where this thing was used. If you wanted a pint of your favorite ale, you could build the cup, and the liquid in your favorite CAD program, and the device would do it's best to match every detail, including the weight. to make items lighter it would put appropriatly sized gaps in the fab material. the lighter it needed to be the bigger the whole. It was a pretty cool deal.
I bet it could make a replica so real that you could pick it up in one hand, and your real Guinness in the other, and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference until you put one to your lips.
I'm really surprised you didn't get mod'ed down as flamebait. But I agree with most of the other replies to your post.
While I haven't seen a TI brand machine on the self at best buy in a while, I'm positive that ever single product that best buy store sells has been effected by a TI product. TI is head and shoulders above every other company in chip manufacturing. Matter of fact, their web site reports that they have chips in 99.9% of all PC's that leave the showroom floor. Not to mention they make chips that are in IBM, HPaq, DELL, Apple, Palm, the IPac, the Jernola, Nokia, Ericson, Motorola... the list goes on.
And Texas Instruments position in the computer world is what, now?
Open your computer, TV, game console, remote control, microwave...
Is that the position you where asking about?
Has there been a comment about DMCA?
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Has there already been a slashdot conversation about what the ebook revolution will effect the DMCA or the other way around? Will epaper be useless due to fear that they would only reproduce thing thing that had been done already? Doesn't this whole media come under the same laws as do today's formats?
That is EXACTLY what is happening with IBM, and here at Computer Associates. Smaller companies like ours NETSuai are devoting all of our time to security.
I would love to be able to attend one of these, and the wrap up that he wrote makes me hope the same thing does come to my town. When I hear that the next convention is planned and my friends say "I'm gonna go" I want to tell "Me Too!", but I never get to leave this hole.
I work for Computer Associates (ca) who has 18,000 employees. We use Unicenter TNG/Unicenter BNG/Unicenter/or whatever we are calling it this week to do keep a constent inventory of applications installed on everybodies machines. I dont' have the numbers in front of me right now, but the last time I looked the count was 2.15 computers per employee. Of course some people do not have a machine, most have just one, but developers have more, like 2 or 3 I keep 4:)
That is ~39,000 pc's not including build machines, or file servers. out of that, almost 8,000 X86 machines have Linux, BSD, or Solaris installed. of those, ~4,500 have star office installed, while ~3,500 have Koffice installed. While a machine with an app installed, is not a machine with someone using that app, queries that I ran show SO saves files extentions on >4,000 machines, and >2,100 users saving files with Koffice.
Another way that I know that we have an active NON-MS Office movement going on, is we had enough support calles to the help desk that we now support KOffice, and Star Office. Just my $.02, but might be relevent to the topic...
It's a real shame that the cowards such as yourself find great fun wasting your time poking sticks into the mouth of an angry animal.
There is no limit to the examples we can give to display the value to Linux in today's corporate America. Every major software vendor (including microsoft) recognize the value, and are making software for the platform. While I know I'm wasting my time, please indulge me as I poke holes in your TROLL/FLAMEBAIT post.
the outlook looks bleak - Look again. I can name 10 companies, 3 of which I know you heard of, that have implemented (successfully) Linux as the primary OS for the entire corporation this quarter.
No longer buffeted by the heady currents of the internet gold rush - I assure you that if you look around, you will find that EVERY internet based business (again including Microsoft) are feeling the affects of the post 'gold rush' economy.
Linux-based companies - which have never made any appreciable amount of money lets compare the number of Linux based companies that showed up on fuckedcompany.com with the number of Wintel based businesses. !!Oh look!! Not saprisingly, they are strangly similar.
appear to have reached their darkest hour yet - okay, I guess you need to eat more carrots.
Just as the markets have started to recognize the absurdity of valuing web sites with no apparent means of making money at billions of dollars, and are instead examining the underlying worth of companies, they are also recognizing that companies required by their underlying philosophy to give their product away, do not have significant revenue opportunities. - okay, and your point is? let me break this out a little for you... you have two companies, one that runs Linux, and one that runs Microsoft software. Both are equal in every other way. Both start with the same amount of funding. Both run out of said funding. Bottom line is that the Linux company spent $0 on OS licensee.
As a result, the development of the user interface (the most important part of a system) of open source products - without a cent to spend on research - relies on ideas stolen directly from Windows. - the correct way to respond to this is to not, but the next best thing I can think of is something like this...
1) stolen??? - you mean like M$ did you apple, visa vi Xerox? Or do you mean stolen as in how microsoft is trying to steal market share from AOL, or any other media/content provider?
2) Have you heard of a little technology called X11? please read up on it. I think you will find that it's past has very little to do with micro$oft
I know the AC that posted that will never read this. And anybody that might agree with me, could easily say it better, but I feel better now.
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btw, most of the 90 images are for testing, development.
Please note that the above artical doesn't apply to this thread. The Korean Air deployment was from a IBM-Zserver. That would be one box capable of 50,000 simultaious, completly seperate linux images. All of which can, but none of which are running a 'desktop'.
All user interfaces are done on IBM netTerminals that have a thier own firmware to handle user interactions. Linux on the Zserver is limited right now to around 90 really really powerful linux server images, and no direct client connections. The IBM netTerminal's internal application only makes TCP calls to the server. Clients do not use shell accounts, and no GUI login exist for them on the server. Hope I didn't burt your bubble, but trust me on this one...
I thought it was somewhere in the 30% range? oh well
well spoken...
It would seem that the same the balk at a new device that is as cheep as this one, are the same people that bitch and complain that the only options out there are brought to us by the same corperate whores that they DO support.
I'll order one, and if it sucks, it was still cheeper then any MS license fee...
understand? get the picture?
Star date 09212001,
Today I was the first subject to ever get stoned in space. It took an abnomally short amount of time for the cotton mouth to kick in. Note that I bumped my helmet on the floor of the station, and just laughed for hours. during the 4 hour experiment, my recordings show that I sat laughing, farting, and pissing myself for 3.98 hours. Tomarrow, I will lend my body to the betterment of man kind by being the first person to inject tar in space...
god I love this job...
Hi MOM!!!!
Everybody meet me at that new microbrewery... Meet me at the elevators at 5:25, and we will take my plane
I can't wait for thye first beer related accedent. We can start a chapter for
M - others
A - gainst
D - runk
D - Driveing -and-
A - sternaut
S - afety
S - tandards
No, really, is there anybody here that still uses microsoft frontpage to do thier web work? After all, it's still okay to use VI or EMACS to bash the tyrants...
The trick that is hard to understand is that AC removes heat, there by creating air that is less hot. Then the less hot air (always 20 degrees cooler than ambient temp) is blown from the radiator. We geek can understand compression and how compression creates heat. and that decompression discards heat.
AC units create a vacuum of 0 mpsi (measurable pounds per square inch) when the cooling gas (frieon) is pushed into the cooling side of the unit. as the gas passes through, it absorbs the heat from the surrounding air.
Then the compressor takes the heated up coolant, super compresses it. and shoots it to a radiator tubing that is on the outside or in this case top of the unit.
the freon has a change to decompress loosing the heat that it generated inside the "cool zone" when it has lost it's heat, it is sent thought a valve that removes the vacuum and the possess starts all over...
Practical application? the multistory building that you are in, already us the heat in the building to cool it.
how many people are going to be happy working in tall buildings?
i know of plenty... and it would be great if the energy bill was already taken care of... you know?
Microsoft has a unique position in its market. It's not like IBM at all. I want to see Microsoft punished as much as the next guy, but I can see how important it is to attack them the right way, right away. It's times like these that I wish I had finished law sch....
oh wait, I wish I had started law school. Bill is the Borg. Fine we can all agree on that, but even the most ANTI-M$ of us can realize what happens if they are allowed to stand. You think MPAA or RIAA is bad? Wait until you have an arrogant M$ with lawyers cocked and loaded banging on the door to verify your corporate licenses.
The problem with this type of case is it opens too many doors if it's not successful. Not unlike the double jeopardy laws that we in the US enjoy, once a suit like this fails, there is VERY little chance of anybody ever bringing a successful suit of those grounds ever again. My thought is that they should wait and let a company with more experience go for it. My guess is that they are just trying to get paid.
could you define replicate? I worked at a Goodyear tire plant where this thing was used. If you wanted a pint of your favorite ale, you could build the cup, and the liquid in your favorite CAD program, and the device would do it's best to match every detail, including the weight. to make items lighter it would put appropriatly sized gaps in the fab material. the lighter it needed to be the bigger the whole. It was a pretty cool deal.
I bet it could make a replica so real that you could pick it up in one hand, and your real Guinness in the other, and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference until you put one to your lips.
I'm really surprised you didn't get mod'ed down as flamebait. But I agree with most of the other replies to your post.
While I haven't seen a TI brand machine on the self at best buy in a while, I'm positive that ever single product that best buy store sells has been effected by a TI product. TI is head and shoulders above every other company in chip manufacturing. Matter of fact, their web site reports that they have chips in 99.9% of all PC's that leave the showroom floor. Not to mention they make chips that are in IBM, HPaq, DELL, Apple, Palm, the IPac, the Jernola, Nokia, Ericson, Motorola... the list goes on.
And Texas Instruments position in the computer world is what, now?
Open your computer, TV, game console, remote control, microwave...
Is that the position you where asking about?
Has there already been a slashdot conversation about what the ebook revolution will effect the DMCA or the other way around? Will epaper be useless due to fear that they would only reproduce thing thing that had been done already? Doesn't this whole media come under the same laws as do today's formats?
That is EXACTLY what is happening with IBM, and here at Computer Associates. Smaller companies like ours NETSuai are devoting all of our time to security.
Personally I'm greatful for the help
Did you see the 25 foot tall Tux penguin that we (Computer Associates) had there?
You underestimate the power of "Me Too!"
I would love to be able to attend one of these, and the wrap up that he wrote makes me hope the same thing does come to my town. When I hear that the next convention is planned and my friends say "I'm gonna go" I want to tell "Me Too!", but I never get to leave this hole.
I work for Computer Associates (ca) who has 18,000 employees. We use Unicenter TNG/Unicenter BNG/Unicenter/or whatever we are calling it this week to do keep a constent inventory of applications installed on everybodies machines. I dont' have the numbers in front of me right now, but the last time I looked the count was 2.15 computers per employee. Of course some people do not have a machine, most have just one, but developers have more, like 2 or 3 I keep 4 :)
That is ~39,000 pc's not including build machines, or file servers. out of that, almost 8,000 X86 machines have Linux, BSD, or Solaris installed. of those, ~4,500 have star office installed, while ~3,500 have Koffice installed. While a machine with an app installed, is not a machine with someone using that app, queries that I ran show SO saves files extentions on >4,000 machines, and >2,100 users saving files with Koffice.
Another way that I know that we have an active NON-MS Office movement going on, is we had enough support calles to the help desk that we now support KOffice, and Star Office. Just my $.02, but might be relevent to the topic...
There is no limit to the examples we can give to display the value to Linux in today's corporate America. Every major software vendor (including microsoft) recognize the value, and are making software for the platform. While I know I'm wasting my time, please indulge me as I poke holes in your TROLL/FLAMEBAIT post.
the outlook looks bleak - Look again. I can name 10 companies, 3 of which I know you heard of, that have implemented (successfully) Linux as the primary OS for the entire corporation this quarter.
No longer buffeted by the heady currents of the internet gold rush - I assure you that if you look around, you will find that EVERY internet based business (again including Microsoft) are feeling the affects of the post 'gold rush' economy.
Linux-based companies - which have never made any appreciable amount of money lets compare the number of Linux based companies that showed up on fuckedcompany.com with the number of Wintel based businesses. !!Oh look!! Not saprisingly, they are strangly similar.
appear to have reached their darkest hour yet - okay, I guess you need to eat more carrots.
Just as the markets have started to recognize the absurdity of valuing web sites with no apparent means of making money at billions of dollars, and are instead examining the underlying worth of companies, they are also recognizing that companies required by their underlying philosophy to give their product away, do not have significant revenue opportunities. - okay, and your point is? let me break this out a little for you... you have two companies, one that runs Linux, and one that runs Microsoft software. Both are equal in every other way. Both start with the same amount of funding. Both run out of said funding. Bottom line is that the Linux company spent $0 on OS licensee.
As a result, the development of the user interface (the most important part of a system) of open source products - without a cent to spend on research - relies on ideas stolen directly from Windows. - the correct way to respond to this is to not, but the next best thing I can think of is something like this...
1) stolen ??? - you mean like M$ did you apple, visa vi Xerox? Or do you mean stolen as in how microsoft is trying to steal market share from AOL, or any other media/content provider?
2) Have you heard of a little technology called X11? please read up on it. I think you will find that it's past has very little to do with micro$oft
I know the AC that posted that will never read this. And anybody that might agree with me, could easily say it better, but I feel better now.
I don't hate Microsoft, but... never mind.
Newbie? I've got your newbie right here you little bitch. I know how to mod when I am one, so suck it!!!
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-4 Mother was hampster;
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(now go away for I'll tount you a second time!!!)
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WOW!!!! google's cache server slashdoted? mark this one in the record books!!!!
Mirrored with google
might try Linux390. A little port work, and it would be able to handle your massive hardware...
That's a pretty cool calvin, but please tell me that the ascii art thing is just a slashdot phase!!!