I mean, in any realistic sense. The "winds" may be changing, but I'd say that the RIAA has invested enough cash into it's political and corporate infrastructure to weather any "storm".
In short, the RIAA isn't going anywhere. But pirating, warezing script kiddies most certainly are...
uh...yeah. Between that, and the way that the torlls were pathetically trying to spoil people with the ending for the two weeks leading to the premiere; I figured people would have the sophistication to see it was a joke...-1, troll...guess I was wrong.
I take exception to that. While there are some geeky things which I like [alt.oses], I do not program, I am not an 'administrator', I do not work in the IT field.
Basically, I consider myself an desktop user, albeit an advanced one [since my desktops alternate between XP and xfce on VMWare.;)].
Btw, I'm a windows user (at least ATM) who dislikes both KDE and GNOME.
Point being; be careful with them assumptions and generalisations!
Actually, I have a local copy of that saved which I read through from time to time.
It is encouraging that the problem is being thought out; I don't know that the legal aspects can be over come (as someone already pointed out, many of the technical ones aready have been).
I'm referring to the (often times dodgy) legal infrastructure that is in place on an ISP level to monitor your activities for p2p or whatever activity.
It's not accessible to the people calling for an alternative to the commercialised internet.
Also, to think the issue is simply a matter of "feeling elitist" is to completely miss the point. It's not about being 31337; it's about taking back our privacy, and taking control over our *own* net experience, instead of being passively spoon-fed by the major corporations.
Hell, once the equipment gets cheaper, we can set up another 'internet'
Ok, sounds great, let's see:
How? (without violating FCC regulations, among others)
What about privacy and encryption?
What is to keep the corporations from snuffing the second one too?
Who is going to come up with the technical methodology and how do you believe this will be implemented?
Hell, I'm just an end user, and even I can see the futility of just wishing for a second internet. We had the one shot, and for a mixture of different reasons, we blew it.
It's my opinion that there won't be a second chance, though I would desperately love to be proven wrong.
After someone has proven that they are willing to abuse their 'skills' to settle a personal vendetta, why should anyone in their right mind trust them? To put it more generically, after some one in the 'security community' crosses over the line, how do they come back from that. Or do they?
I lurked in trolltalk at the time, and I remember the whole thing clearly. Speaking just for myself, if I were to make the decisions about which tools were to be used in my company, nmap would be on my blacklist.
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You're mistaken. Normally it's assumed it's not a problem. Just because no-one bothers to check does NOT mean that it is acceptable behavoir.
I mean, in any realistic sense. The "winds" may be changing, but I'd say that the RIAA has invested enough cash into it's political and corporate infrastructure to weather any "storm".
In short, the RIAA isn't going anywhere. But pirating, warezing script kiddies most certainly are...
ascii goatse...in needlepoint? Ugh, I think I can wait for that one!
Childishness? On slashdot? That almost never happens!
#!/usr/bin/bash :0wn
`which echo` "d00d! I o\/\/n3rz j00"
goto 0wn
ph33r m3!!!!
I have, it won't. I had to download gzip386.exe from ftp.gnu.org
I think this could be neat if:
A)if this could be used to set up, create and manipulate ufs/ffs partitions on your computer. (I know, highly unlikely)
B)If the next step was to create windows binaries of the NetBSD system (to replace their GNU counterparts)
Hell, it's neat regardless! Next, we need to have the guys at LFS add cygwin compatibility so I can truly build a linux from scratch!
Bah, that's nothing... Try posting about IRIX in the Windows 95 support forum...
Or VMS in a WindowsNT support forum...?
Who says you can't have both a quailty product which happens to be made with linux?
Hell, some of us wilder, more extreme types consider Linux as a *sign* of quality!
It lets me know which products not to buy.
uh...yeah. Between that, and the way that the torlls were pathetically trying to spoil people with the ending for the two weeks leading to the premiere; I figured people would have the sophistication to see it was a joke...-1, troll...guess I was wrong.
No, the proper term is crapflooding, but if we called it that, no-one would buy ad space. ;)
You mean, besides the fact that trinity dies?
1993 here. :)
Unless you count used, which would be odd.
[whine]
The grand parent post made a +5 funny comment about how tempting he found it to play with a new linux distro.
I then made a joke about how he [the grandparent poster] should avoid visting ibiblio; a site that has every linux distribution known to (wo)man.
Hilarity insued.
Or should have; had it not have been for the infamous CSM brigade.
[/whine]
If you really feel that way, never EVER visit ibilio.org ... particularly the linux distro area ! :p
Well, being in the USA, I am out.
How many others does that leave?
>> Speaking as an average user
;)].
> Average users don't read Slashdot.
I take exception to that. While there are some geeky things which I like [alt.oses], I do not program, I am not an 'administrator', I do not work in the IT field.
Basically, I consider myself an desktop user, albeit an advanced one [since my desktops alternate between XP and xfce on VMWare.
Btw, I'm a windows user (at least ATM) who dislikes both KDE and GNOME.
Point being; be careful with them assumptions and generalisations!
Actually, I have a local copy of that saved which I read through from time to time.
It is encouraging that the problem is being thought out; I don't know that the legal aspects can be over come (as someone already pointed out, many of the technical ones aready have been).
I'm referring to the (often times dodgy) legal infrastructure that is in place on an ISP level to monitor your activities for p2p or whatever activity.
It's not accessible to the people calling for an alternative to the commercialised internet.
Also, to think the issue is simply a matter of "feeling elitist" is to completely miss the point. It's not about being 31337; it's about taking back our privacy, and taking control over our *own* net experience, instead of being passively spoon-fed by the major corporations.
Hell, once the equipment gets cheaper, we can set up another 'internet'
Ok, sounds great, let's see:
How? (without violating FCC regulations, among others)
What about privacy and encryption?
What is to keep the corporations from snuffing the second one too?
Who is going to come up with the technical methodology and how do you believe this will be implemented?
Hell, I'm just an end user, and even I can see the futility of just wishing for a second internet. We had the one shot, and for a mixture of different reasons, we blew it.
It's my opinion that there won't be a second chance, though I would desperately love to be proven wrong.
when you'll know it's time to resign yourself to being a slahsbot.
At least you've still got +3 points to go. There's still hope! RUN while you STILL CAN!
After the whole sdem incident, I have a question.
After someone has proven that they are willing to abuse their 'skills' to settle a personal vendetta, why should anyone in their right mind trust them? To put it more generically, after some one in the 'security community' crosses over the line, how do they come back from that. Or do they?
I lurked in trolltalk at the time, and I remember the whole thing clearly. Speaking just for myself, if I were to make the decisions about which tools were to be used in my company, nmap would be on my blacklist.
OIC, it was eerily close to the usual "I gimme warez^H^H^H^H^Hmp3's, d00d" mentality I see here, and I got confused. Sorry about that.