"It is possible to build labyrinths of internal directories that eventually become too deep to navigate via the mouse.
What the hell does that mean? That there's some point where you just can't click the mouse just *one* more time?
"...The feeling of such spiral filing systems is of endless depth, requiring great effort to retrieve a piece of information. It is difficult to create the same spiral feeling on the desktop."
"Spiraling file systems..."
God, I hope I'm not around to watch this guy freak out the first time he comes across a self-referential symbolic link..
And we continue:
"With directories you can:
Add unlimited files without fear of clutter. (You can change views in a directory.)
Move the mouse past the boundaries of a directory.
Add, delete, and "move" directories "anywhere" inside the hard disk. "
But wait a minute! Just a moment ago we were spiraling downward into a maelstrom of "endless depth" from which no mouse could escape, let alone get us into in the first place...
Which is it?
"The vague space of the hard disk should not exist for you. Ideally, your machine should be a collection of desktops that you have created and named, that are easy to track via a menu or toggle button, and are each understandable because they follow the same rules and offer the same limitations."
What has this guy been smoking?
A hard drive is "vague"?
Funny. I've always found cd/var/log/snort, for example, to be pretty goddam specific.
But maybe I'm missing something...
Ah! here's a hint:
"Daniel Loebl has worked with the Macintosh for over eight years for design, print and now Internet."
One of them Mac-using graphic "artists"
heh..
t_t_b
Re:And this just in from Boeing security....
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al Qaeda Hacks XP?
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This attempts to play to the Suits' unimaginative anti-Linux red herring:
"Linux? Hell! When ya gotta problem, who ya wanta talk to, a bunch of hippies on Usenet?"
bzztt..
Sorry. Wrong.
*Don't* bother to try again.
If you had bothered to read most of the posts and take any of the links offered, you'd see that there are a lot of serious options available, all with support, not a bit of which is performed by hippies on Usenet.
I think your agenda's showing, through yon Window...
Q: Why does snort report "Packet loss statistics are unavailable under Linux"?
A: The Linux IP stack doesn't report lost packet stats. This may be changing
in version 2.4 of Linux, but for now you just don't get them. Try one
of the BSDs, they work just fine. This also has been recently fixed with
the 2.4 kernel in the new version of libpcap... upgrade kernels and libpcap
and it should now work.
That's packet loss ***statistics***, not a statement about packet loss.
This is in the context of Linux generally, not RedHat specifically...
There is *no* other mention of "packet loss" and "Linux" together anywhere in the FAQ.
The *only* reference to "RedHat" itself, anywhere in the FAQ, is the very long-standing advice to upgrade to the current version of libpcap. This advice itself has become pretty much irrelevant for anyone running one of the more recent distros, anyway.
Honestly!
People running their little agendas!
Ya'd think they'd try to put a little more substance in 'em...
...of course, maybe they assume that no one who knows any better will be reading/. these days.
"First of all, if you have it listening on a dial-up and the dial-up goes down, so does snort. Now that's not a big problem, but it makes me wonder about the internal design."
What the hell are you talking about?
snort is listening to the interface.
On a dialup, you're using ppp; when ppp0 goes down, what interface is snort supposed to be listening to?
If the link is down there's nothing for snort to listen to (completely aside from the fact that you're offline and there's no threat of any sort anyway...)
"Second, on an RH7.0 machine, snort quits randomly for no apparant reason, and with no diagnostic message. I don't know if that's my fault, or what, it must be since nobody else seems to complain about it."
Try checking out the snort list. Wouldn't be running in - D daemon mode by any chance? There's a frequently reoccuring thread about this sort of thing...
Speaking of the snort list:
"Third, I was making some changes to the code and noticed some sloppy coding, including diagnostic messages not terminated by nulls, and convoluted string-matching code that would match some bytes twice. Again not a big deal, but when you see something like that, you start to wonder what else might be flakey."
Ever bother posting anything about this?
*I* sure don't recall reading anything about this topic.
"But I for one will be very suspicious of using Snort for more than a home LAN."
"...Several implementations of login that are derived from System V allow a user to specify arguments such as environment variables to the process. An array of buffers is used to store these arguments. A flaw exists in the checking of the number of arguments accepted. This flaw permits the array of buffers to be overflowed."
That does not at all translate into "anybody can take over your computer, steal sensitive files, destroy your machine, anything"
"AND WHAT WAS IT THAT AS YOU LOOKED AT THIS SONAR IMAGE, WHAT WAS IT THAT EXCITED YOU?
Frank Muller-Karger, Ph.D., Caribbean expert and Professor of Oceanography, College of Marine Science, University of South Florida, St. Petersburg, Florida:
"When you look at sonar images, it looks sort of smooth, curved and shades - everything is sort of curvy and shades of curves. It looks smooth. So, when you look at these, you do see things that have very strong reflections along straight edges. There are a lot of those things, like you said, over a field of several kilometers, tens of square kilometers.
AND THAT THESE STRAIGHT EDGES THAT ARE BOTH RECTANGULAR AND SOMEWHAT PYRAMIDAL WITH STRAIGHT EDGES ARE ALL OVER THAT SEVERAL KILOMETERS AREA?
Yes, but again, it could be a very unique geological formation. We just don't know. Until we go there and take a very close look, all it will be is speculation and I would hope that nobody - it's very romantic to think, 'Oh, a lost civilization and ruins and all.' And we all would like to see something like that. But I don't think that it's the right thing to do without actually going there. I think it's great they are actually going to go there and take a closer look. Because just from a geological point of view, it would be very interesting also."
It's an example of how "trained" sysadmins groomed on wizards and radio buttons and checkboxes and other tabbed hand-holders don't really know how to administer something that may require editing the actual configuration file by hand.
It's a classic fact of Window$ "Administration" that most sysadmins don't have the faintest clue as to what all the options they're selecting from various configuration frontends are actually *doing* behind the scenes where data is written to disk...
Just 'cause you can select a bunch of stuff with a mouse and click "OK" doesn't mean you know what you're doing.
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heh...
If ya sent in a resume recently, don't hold yer breath...
"Consequently, on behalf of our client, we demand that you cease and desist from publishing or distributing the above-referenced materials. We believe that this is a very serious matter, thus we ask that we receive confirmation in writing from you that you have removed the infringing material from your web site."
...that someone needs to take all the lawyers out and shoot^H^H^H^H^H<CR><LF>
Good 'ol RFC 3093, Firewall Enhancement Protocol (FEP) -- heh..
To quote:
"RFC 3093 - Firewall Enhancement Protocol - 1 April 2001"
Cherished excerpts:
"We offer freedom to innovate without additionally compromising external security, and the best part, no need to waste time involving any managers for approval."
Certainly an idea who's time has come;-)
"The IP datagram is carried in the message body of the HTTP message and the TCP packet header information is encoded into HTTP headers of the message. This ASCII encoding of the header fields has many advantages, including human readability, increasing the debuggability of new applications, and easy logging of packet information. If this becomes widely adopted, tools like tcpdump will become obsolete."
Why no one's done all of this sooner, I don't know..
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See: www.securityfocus.com/news/282
Study finds hackers and military sites lurking in the Internet's phantom zones
By Kevin Poulsen
Nov 12 2001 3:59PM PT
Lessee..
November 12...
That's over a month ago.
The Reg® carried this story about then, too..
t_t_b
Pop-ups and pop-unders and thousands of cookies...
Go to the source: antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html
t_t_b
What the hell does that mean? That there's some point where you just can't click the mouse just *one* more time?
"Spiraling file systems..."
God, I hope I'm not around to watch this guy freak out the first time he comes across a self-referential symbolic link..
And we continue:
But wait a minute! Just a moment ago we were spiraling downward into a maelstrom of "endless depth" from which no mouse could escape, let alone get us into in the first place...
Which is it?
What has this guy been smoking?
A hard drive is "vague"?
Funny. I've always found cd /var/log/snort, for example, to be pretty goddam specific.
But maybe I'm missing something...
Ah! here's a hint:
One of them Mac-using graphic "artists"
heh..
t_t_b
Bin Workin would stand right out at the Lazy B...
t_t_b
Shoo, M$ troll...
t_t_b
bzztt..
Sorry. Wrong.
*Don't* bother to try again.
If you had bothered to read most of the posts and take any of the links offered, you'd see that there are a lot of serious options available, all with support, not a bit of which is performed by hippies on Usenet.
I think your agenda's showing, through yon Window...
t_t_b
See: www.snort.org/docs/faq.html
A: The Linux IP stack doesn't report lost packet stats. This may be changing in version 2.4 of Linux, but for now you just don't get them. Try one of the BSDs, they work just fine. This also has been recently fixed with the 2.4 kernel in the new version of libpcap... upgrade kernels and libpcap and it should now work.
That's packet loss ***statistics***, not a statement about packet loss.
This is in the context of Linux generally, not RedHat specifically...
There is *no* other mention of "packet loss" and "Linux" together anywhere in the FAQ.
The *only* reference to "RedHat" itself, anywhere in the FAQ, is the very long-standing advice to upgrade to the current version of libpcap. This advice itself has become pretty much irrelevant for anyone running one of the more recent distros, anyway.
Honestly!
People running their little agendas!
Ya'd think they'd try to put a little more substance in 'em...
t_t_b
What the hell are you talking about?
snort is listening to the interface.
On a dialup, you're using ppp; when ppp0 goes down, what interface is snort supposed to be listening to?
If the link is down there's nothing for snort to listen to (completely aside from the fact that you're offline and there's no threat of any sort anyway...)
Try checking out the snort list. Wouldn't be running in - D daemon mode by any chance? There's a frequently reoccuring thread about this sort of thing...
Speaking of the snort list:
Ever bother posting anything about this?
*I* sure don't recall reading anything about this topic.
Using snort should be limited to a home LAN?
Yeah, right...
You don't have a clue.
t_t_b
No. Wrong.
You need a M$ Passport to vote in the United States...
t_t_b
You don't have a f*cking clue.
This is from CERT:
That does not at all translate into "anybody can take over your computer, steal sensitive files, destroy your machine, anything"
Go back to Redmond, M$ whore.
t_t_b
The Reg®?
Making Linux look harder than it is
Thursday December 06, 04:34 AM EST
[ GNU/Linux ]
- By Robin "Roblimo" Miller -
C'mon, guys, ya gotta get out more.
t_t_b
"AND WHAT WAS IT THAT AS YOU LOOKED AT THIS SONAR IMAGE, WHAT WAS IT THAT EXCITED YOU?
Frank Muller-Karger, Ph.D., Caribbean expert and Professor of Oceanography, College of Marine Science, University of South Florida, St. Petersburg, Florida:
"When you look at sonar images, it looks sort of smooth, curved and shades - everything is sort of curvy and shades of curves. It looks smooth. So, when you look at these, you do see things that have very strong reflections along straight edges. There are a lot of those things, like you said, over a field of several kilometers, tens of square kilometers.
AND THAT THESE STRAIGHT EDGES THAT ARE BOTH RECTANGULAR AND SOMEWHAT PYRAMIDAL WITH STRAIGHT EDGES ARE ALL OVER THAT SEVERAL KILOMETERS AREA?
Yes, but again, it could be a very unique geological formation. We just don't know. Until we go there and take a very close look, all it will be is speculation and I would hope that nobody - it's very romantic to think, 'Oh, a lost civilization and ruins and all.' And we all would like to see something like that. But I don't think that it's the right thing to do without actually going there. I think it's great they are actually going to go there and take a closer look. Because just from a geological point of view, it would be very interesting also."
t_t_b
"May 20, 2001 article reports on sonar sightings of what appear to be man-made structures on the seabed near Cuba...."
http://www.andrewcollins.net/page/articles/lostcit y.htm
"In a press release dated Havana, 14 May 2001 Reuters of London..."
Update on Mysterious Deep Water Sonar Images Off Western Cuba
Underwater City Reported Off Western Cuba
I could go on, but I'll leave that as an exercise for the reader.
Hint: try a google search for "cuba" and "underwater" and "city"
Ya'd think /. would have picked up on this a while ago, but then, maybe not...
I guess "news" doesn't necessarily mean "new".
t_t_b
It's an example of how "trained" sysadmins groomed on wizards and radio buttons and checkboxes and other tabbed hand-holders don't really know how to administer something that may require editing the actual configuration file by hand.
It's a classic fact of Window$ "Administration" that most sysadmins don't have the faintest clue as to what all the options they're selecting from various configuration frontends are actually *doing* behind the scenes where data is written to disk...
Just 'cause you can select a bunch of stuff with a mouse and click "OK" doesn't mean you know what you're doing.
t_t_b
er...
What I mean is, check out worldnet.att.net as a dialup.
Linux friendly; see: www.wurd.com/eng/setup/dialers/linux.html "Linux and AT&T WorldNet® Service"
They also have a newsgroup: worldnet.help.software.dialers.unix-variant
$21.95 a month unlimited, 56K, re-dialers welcome.
Anyway, have some self-respect..
t_t_b
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Accounting & Finance
Administration
Business Development
College Opportunities
Content/Web Production/Design
Customer Care & Support
Engineering
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Quality Assurance
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heh...
If ya sent in a resume recently, don't hold yer breath...
t_t_b
t_t_b
um.. sorry about that.
We can't say that sort of thing, now, can we?
t_t_b
You mean an actual *book* with pages and all?
How retro...
How oxymoronic...
t_t_b
No shit!
Taco's *dead*!!?!
Fsck!
Where the hell have I been...?
t_t_b
Good 'ol RFC 3093, Firewall Enhancement Protocol (FEP) -- heh..
To quote:
"RFC 3093 - Firewall Enhancement Protocol - 1 April 2001"
Cherished excerpts:
"We offer freedom to innovate without additionally compromising external security, and the best part, no need to waste time involving any managers for approval."
Certainly an idea who's time has come ;-)
"The IP datagram is carried in the message body of the HTTP message and the TCP packet header information is encoded into HTTP headers of the message. This ASCII encoding of the header fields has many advantages, including human readability, increasing the debuggability of new applications, and easy logging of packet information. If this becomes widely adopted, tools like tcpdump will become obsolete."
Why no one's done all of this sooner, I don't know..
t_t_b
Why do you have to *buy* a computer at all?
Buy the parts, save some money, get exactly what you want, and learn something.
I've built every computer I've owned since I "bought" the last one in 1991.
The last five I've built have *never* had a byte of Micro$oft code on them...
t_t_b
bzztt..
Sorry. Wrong. Try again later.
What in God's name makes you think that a modem connection doesn't need a firewall?
It's still tcp/ip...
t_t_b
See: this link
Perfect for users who demand secure, fast, reliable connections with cross-platform capability, the U.S. Robotics V.Everything 56K Analog Corporate Modem helps your business succeed-every hour of the day, every day of the week."
Rock steady, and fast.
You can't go wrong.
I've had one for years...
t_t_b
How hard can that be?
t_t_b