Square wasn't the only RPG making company out there.. I can recall maybe 2 RPGs for the N64.. one I can actually name Quest 64 which was a joke. They could have easily approached another company for some cool RPGs.. they didn't.
As for the family systen stigma, I stand by my opinion. The market has changed. The people who grew up on video games are no longer kids, the 20+ market is pretty damn big and sony, microsoft see that market.. a market that wasn't around when the console frontrunners made there debute.
We don't need to have tits and gore to appeal to an older market, but more mature less cutesy themes would be a good start.
The best thing I applaud them for is for contiuning to remake the classics. Which is the reason why I purchased a GC... and a N64... but other than those classics.. there isn't much. (for me)
"Sony decided to copy its last system almost whole-sale"
Why fix what isn't broken.
The dual shock controller is great. Why force your customers to get use to a whole new controller when you can reuse the old design. Personally I don't think there is any need for more buttons.. unlike the game consoles of old.
Other than the Nintendo Exclusive releases there isn't anything the systems has that makes me say damn I want to play that. They are pretty weak for decent 3rd Party games.. especially since most of the games you could just play on another platform anyways.
I own a GC, I own F-zero, Mario Sunshine, Mario Party 4, Animal Crossing and Metroid Prime.
Nintendo itself is still putting out quality games.. now those are the games put out by nintendo... games like Zelda, F-zero, Animal Crossing, Mario Golf..
Mario Sunshine was ok.. but it just didn't seem like Mario.. as well they have been trying to have the gameboy advance be apart of alot of new games.. (Metroid Fusion/Prime, Animal Crossing, Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicals) as well they still have the stigma of being the "family system" despite there attemps to draw in the older audiences.
After they snubbed RPG fans with the N64 most went to sony who had RPGs a plenty. They neglected a big market of gamers (especially in Japan) that was stupid.
IMO they where stupid when they didn't embrace the online market like mircosoft and to a lesser extent sony.
They have done some stupid things as of late but overall I think they haven't lost there edge.. but it could use a bit of sharpening.
Played the demo.. while the comic book feel was nice cell shaded for this game (imo)it could be done alot better.
if they want it to be like a comic have the characters look like comic book characters.
for example take a look at the Dragonball Z budokai game for the PS2 cellshaded but it looks like the anime.
Or if you are into Naruto the japanese releases on Gamecube and the upcoming PS2 release of the Naruto fighting games.. Cell shaded but they look like the manga/anime.
I'm not sure if its a good or bad thing that Nintendos handheld market sports more RPG type games than there flagship systems have in quite some time. Other than the NES and SNES everything after has been lacking in this Genre yet the gameboy incarnates have always kept putting out these games.
Maybe an employee of GOA (the company running the european side of DAOC) was disgruntled logged in and used his GM toolset to spawn mobs and cause a bit of a ruckus before they quit.
Seems the most plausible to me, since daoc has been the most stable and secure MMORPG release..(IMO) unlike a certain PVP centric one..
I am glad to see the Phantasy Star series being redone for PS2 but why leave out Phantasy Star III. I personally would love to have the entire series redone since I never owned a genesis and only ever played the games via renting the system. I'll assume its because the third installment wasn't as good as 2 or 4 or was a master system first like 1 was.
I believe you are referring the those GAP ads (i think it was GAP at least.) where the models where skinny.. if I recall those where blasted and the ad campaign was quickly dropped. (So then they switched to young boys in underwear... which was then likened to child porn...)
Its good being apart of a group of people who can get in contact with each other alot faster than the non computer user. Allows us to rally, colaberate and plan things quicker better and more effectively.
As well if we ever need to get names for a petition we just post in on/. or FARK and the names just roll in.:P
The was it the console itself he was referring to to having the strict rules or just the games Atari developed.
Wouldn't have Atari been able to stop the production of these "questionable" third party games (pretty much the entire Mistique library)they own the rights to the console.. shouldn't they have say over who made games for it.
We can still blame them for E.T. (strangely enough I didn't complete the game twice in a row before turning it off for good when I was a kid.)
"If drug addicts were shunned like lepers (instead of being glorified through film and books), it would probably go further to reduce drug usage that the stack of penal code we currently have written. "
Yea cause I know I want to be junkie.. so stylish.
The Atari.. right the system that has a texas chainsaw massacre game(where you where you play leatherface) Custers Revenge (where you raped a indian woman who was tied up) and E.T. (where your childhood memories of the Spielberg classic where turned into a neverending nightmare of open pits.)
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Square wasn't the only RPG making company out there.. I can recall maybe 2 RPGs for the N64.. one I can actually name Quest 64 which was a joke. They could have easily approached another company for some cool RPGs.. they didn't.
As for the family systen stigma, I stand by my opinion. The market has changed. The people who grew up on video games are no longer kids, the 20+ market is pretty damn big and sony, microsoft see that market.. a market that wasn't around when the console frontrunners made there debute.
We don't need to have tits and gore to appeal to an older market, but more mature less cutesy themes would be a good start.
The best thing I applaud them for is for contiuning to remake the classics. Which is the reason why I purchased a GC... and a N64...
but other than those classics.. there isn't much.
(for me)
hehe it was the same thing with the N64 for me..
Mario 64
Zelda
Golden Eye
Perfect Dark
just a few games for the system and we still bought it.. but we did buy it as soon as it came out.. man that was a sad launch
your choice of MARIO 64 or PILOTWINGS 64
"Sony decided to copy its last system almost whole-sale"
Why fix what isn't broken.
The dual shock controller is great. Why force your customers to get use to a whole new controller when you can reuse the old design.
Personally I don't think there is any need for more buttons.. unlike the game consoles of old.
For me its a lack of games that I want to play...
Other than the Nintendo Exclusive releases there isn't anything the systems has that makes me say damn I want to play that. They are pretty weak for decent 3rd Party games.. especially since most of the games you could just play on another platform anyways.
I own a GC, I own F-zero, Mario Sunshine, Mario Party 4, Animal Crossing and Metroid Prime.
Nintendo itself is still putting out quality games.. now those are the games put out by nintendo... games like Zelda, F-zero, Animal Crossing, Mario Golf..
Mario Sunshine was ok.. but it just didn't seem like Mario.. as well they have been trying to have the gameboy advance be apart of alot of new games.. (Metroid Fusion/Prime, Animal Crossing, Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicals) as well they still have the stigma of being the "family system" despite there attemps to draw in the older audiences.
After they snubbed RPG fans with the N64 most went to sony who had RPGs a plenty. They neglected a big market of gamers (especially in Japan) that was stupid.
IMO they where stupid when they didn't embrace the online market like mircosoft and to a lesser extent sony.
They have done some stupid things as of late but overall I think they haven't lost there edge.. but it could use a bit of sharpening.
Attitude is fine but it may have came across as snide... but it was more of a joke considering how much else I screwed up on the orginal post.
Anyways back to the topic.
fine the URL I posted.. I probably fucked something else up just let me know.
it did it twice..
http://www.narutofan.com/index.phtml?jutsu=informa tion/games/ps2/index.php
sometimes things just don't go your way.
Lets try that again..
n forma tion/games/ps2/index.php
u dokai_gc_actio n/
While the comic book feel was nice, the cell shading for the characters was not impressive and (imo) could be done alot better.
also links to the Naruto and Dragonball games
Naruto PS2
http://www.narutofan.com/index.phtml?jutsu=i
Dragonball
http://www.us.atari.com/games/dbz_b
Played the demo.. while the comic book feel was nice cell shaded for this game (imo)it could be done alot better.
if they want it to be like a comic have the characters look like comic book characters.
for example take a look at the Dragonball Z budokai game for the PS2 cellshaded but it looks like the anime.
Or if you are into Naruto the japanese releases on Gamecube and the upcoming PS2 release of the Naruto fighting games.. Cell shaded but they look like the manga/anime.
Other than that the game play is pretty decent.
If I recall from my days of super dorkdom there already was a PnP based RPG for Street Fighter.. complete with pewter figurines and all..
I'm not sure if its a good or bad thing that Nintendos handheld market sports more RPG type games than there flagship systems have in quite some time. Other than the NES and SNES everything after has been lacking in this Genre yet the gameboy incarnates have always kept putting out these games.
Maybe an employee of GOA (the company running the european side of DAOC) was disgruntled logged in and used his GM toolset to spawn mobs and cause a bit of a ruckus before they quit.
Seems the most plausible to me, since daoc has been the most stable and secure MMORPG release..(IMO) unlike a certain PVP centric one..
Just to be anal Dragon Warrior VII was for the basic playstation. Dragon Warrior VIII will be for the PS2 but has not been released yet.
and not back when the atari was king.
Agent: "That blob is my client... you have got to be joking, where is the sexiness, you can hardly see his manly jaw. "
at least now they can make the game characters look like the actors (one thing that Enter the Matrix did pretty well.)
I am glad to see the Phantasy Star series being redone for PS2 but why leave out Phantasy Star III. I personally would love to have the entire series redone since I never owned a genesis and only ever played the games via renting the system. I'll assume its because the third installment wasn't as good as 2 or 4 or was a master system first like 1 was.
All I remember is the good ole StickyBear.
I believe you are referring the those GAP ads (i think it was GAP at least.) where the models where skinny.. if I recall those where blasted and the ad campaign was quickly dropped. (So then they switched to young boys in underwear... which was then likened to child porn...)
Its good being apart of a group of people who can get in contact with each other alot faster than the non computer user. Allows us to rally, colaberate and plan things quicker better and more effectively.
/. or FARK and the names just roll in. :P
As well if we ever need to get names for a petition we just post in on
The was it the console itself he was referring to to having the strict rules or just the games Atari developed.
Wouldn't have Atari been able to stop the production of these "questionable" third party games (pretty much the entire Mistique library)they own the rights to the console.. shouldn't they have say over who made games for it.
We can still blame them for E.T. (strangely enough I didn't complete the game twice in a row before turning it off for good when I was a kid.)
Yea trackmarks are sexy.
I still have the first release of Maniac Mansion on the NES. Complete with exploding hampster.
"If drug addicts were shunned like lepers (instead of being glorified through film and books), it would probably go further to reduce drug usage that the stack of penal code we currently have written.
"
Yea cause I know I want to be junkie.. so stylish.
The Atari.. right the system that has a texas chainsaw massacre game(where you where you play leatherface) Custers Revenge (where you raped a indian woman who was tied up) and E.T. (where your childhood memories of the Spielberg classic where turned into a neverending nightmare of open pits.)