No real hackers are going to be there and script kiddies dont do social engineering, thats a real hacker technique. Script kiddies if their programs dont get them in, they cant hack you, so just dont compile the C code for them or write the programs.
Most desktop users who just run word and a webbrowser, they dont care about processor cycles, they arent compiling code.
So waste? waste is what programmers who have to save their precious little CPU cycles to compile their little kernel a few minutes faster care about. Not someone whos just surfing the web downloading mp3s and chatting.
Who? The creator of the icon can do that right now - the icons are MNG files (the animated form of PNG files), and they have a framerate set inside them. What you want is for the desktop user to be able to override that? I suppose it's possible, but I for one just don't see it as a desirable feature.
But I the user cannot set the frame rate.Whos computer will be rendering these frames? Mine. So why shouldnt I decide the max amount? If i can change my icon sizes and my screen resolution it only makes sense.
Theres not going to be demand from application authors because application authors cant demand something thats this new.
Its kinda like how the industry didnt demand peer to peer until after napster was made. You have the technology, now we need some ways for developers to take advantage of it, then the demand will come, not from developers but from the users who will then create developer damand.
Kinda like alpha channel, developers dont care about that its the users who demand that.
Yeah KDE is mature, we arent even debating that, the problem with KDE is, while its mature, its still not at the level of OSX. OSX still has it beat in terms of ease of use, eye candy etc, to beat OSX it needs animated icons, SVG icons, alpha channel, and great usability and functionality, If KDE developers focus on the small details (which is what KDE lacks right now) KDE could be competiting with OSX in about a year.
In trying to explain how usability must be improved everywhere, and how kde should focus on its exclusive features,
if you looked at my other posts also mention alpha channeling, genie effects, and motion blur, i mention how lindows and others should fund enhancements to xfree, i mentioned how after xfree is improved kde should focus on improving kdes usability not just by adding eye candy but by making it useful.
ok so when will they use the icon animation ability of KDE to improve useability while also providing eyecandy?
Right now its useless flash put your mouse over a folder and it opens, its not useful like put a cd in your cd rom drive and hit burn and a spinning burning cd,
IF you say its a video card issue, how about improving the animated icons, I'm not talking about going overboard, but allowing the user to decide the frame rate, allowing our actions to decide the animations of an icon, so an icon can have several diffrent animations, cd icon should have a music cd animation, a burning cd animation for burning, a game cd animation, a dvd movie animation, so anyone who doesnt know computers can understand what is going on by looking at the icon animate.
I'm talking about improving the animation in terms of frames per second,, doing that would do alot for eyecandy and ease of use, if its done right.
Xfree can support this, people have the ram to do it, and the cpu power but if they dont, they should be able to decide the frame rate just like the decide the icon sizes.
First, we should be able to set the max framerate of the animations.
Second developers should be able to create animations so programs illustrate our actions.
You put a CD in your CD rom and its a game CD, you should see maybe a little light or flash on the desktop which turns into a little spinning CD, if the game programmers wrote an animation for their icon, the doom CD could have an animated icon of the devil or whatever.
Or you could set it up so when you run a program the icon animate.
When you burn a CD a spinning burning CD animation could appear, why would this be useful? someone who doesnt know a damn thing about computers could look at that burning spinning Cd icon and know what the computer is doing without opening up any programs.
Animation is what seperates OSX from linux, the genie effect, alpha channeling, that extra level of overkill eyecandy is what people want and need for ease of use.
I'm sorry but KDE has a long long way to go before impressing anyone with its eye candy.
why even bother showing off eye candy when its just drop shadows or anti aliased fonts,
The animated icons was a good start, they should improve that so for example you can take a gaim icon or instant message icon from your desktop and put it on your panel somewhere and when you get a msg it animates, or when its on your desktop and you get a msg it animates.
When you put a Cd in the CD drive, the CD icon should appear and begin to spin, to animate whats happenining. Basically they should let our actions influence the animations, more so than just a random animation when you put your mouse over it. Maybe an animation when you actually click it, or if you modify a folder somehow like lock or unlock it, the animation should occur with the lock being slapped on the folder.
Animations is something that OSX and XP does not do, so why not improve that?
We need more eyecandy if KDE is supposed to ever be better than OSX or even XP, better icon animation (its a good start but improve on it and make it more useful)
Alpha channel, so we can have a alpha channeled kicker and panel
Some cool special effects, like genie effect or even motion blur,
They seriously need to get 4-5 developers working on a project with just THAT specific purpose, of improving the eyecandy in KDE. OR maybe someone like Lindows can fund development of xfree86's render extention.
Functionality? Ok whats wrong with E16.5 in terms of functionality?
Stability? Its more stable than Gnome by far.
Flash and Eye Candy? More than Gnome will ever have.
I want a desktop to compare to OSX, save functionality for Gnome.
Even if Gnome has the best functionality KDE is still kicking its ass with its better eye candy and worthless features that geeks dont care about but all the casual users love.
Exactly why cant slashdot editors add the KDE donation page so it doesnt seem so biased,
This is supposed to be a fair site not a site to politically promote gnome, its bad enough you have the gnome foot icon all over this site, but now we have to have promotions for gnome donations without KDE or anything else?
They dont need any more money, they have more money than KDE, they had Eazels 15 million, they have Ximnian giving them money, They have Sun and IBM helping them.
I'll Donate to Enlightenment before I'd donate to Gnome, Gnome is as good as its going to get, its been years, the interface to Gnome hasnt improved at all except for Nautilus (what a waste of 15 million dollars when its not even better than KDE)
Stop buying junkfood, only buy healthy food, eat the same exact 3 meals every single day in the same exact portions at the same exact time, think of food as fuel and not as something which is supposed to taste good.
Its impossible, yes 100 percent impossible to lose 20lbs of pure fat in such a short amount of time UNLESS you lose mostly water and muscle along with it.
You lost 20lbs of weight, but chances are you lost alot of muscle and water, not fat. Even when in ketosis unless you have a super fast metabolism the body only burns as much fuel as it needs per day, so if you need 3000 calories per day (thats a pound of fat) if you burn pure fat for a week its still only 7lbs.
running doesnt do anything to your metabolism. lifting weights and building muscle is the only real way to increase metabolism.
Running mostly burns carbs and sugar for the first 45 minutes and most people unless they are marathon type athletes cant run for hours, not to mention you'll only burn a few hundred calories when its all over.
When you diet, you decide not to eat certain foods as a habit.
This means dont eat alot of sugar, or alot of generally unhealthy foods, eat mostly the same boring foods everyday, and forget about stupid nonsense like taste, and you'll be healthy.
Your shape wont change however unless you lift weights.
To lose weight you simply take in less calories than your maintnance.
If you need 2000 calories to support your 190lbs, you go down to 1900 calories, then 2 weeks later go down to 1800 and stay around there for about 4-5 months. Occassionally to keep your metabolism fast you do a 3000-4000 calorie day once a week.
The low carb thing is healthy but it wont make you lose weight for long because you cant stay in ketosis for 6 months or so which is about how long it will take to lose about 50lbs
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No real hackers are going to be there and script kiddies dont do social engineering, thats a real hacker technique. Script kiddies if their programs dont get them in, they cant hack you, so just dont compile the C code for them or write the programs.
Only programmers care about processor cycles.
Most desktop users who just run word and a webbrowser, they dont care about processor cycles, they arent compiling code.
So waste? waste is what programmers who have to save their precious little CPU cycles to compile their little kernel a few minutes faster care about. Not someone whos just surfing the web downloading mp3s and chatting.
Who? The creator of the icon can do that right now - the icons are MNG files (the animated form of PNG files), and they have a framerate set inside them. What you want is for the desktop user to be able to override that? I suppose it's possible, but I for one just don't see it as a desirable feature.
But I the user cannot set the frame rate.Whos computer will be rendering these frames? Mine. So why shouldnt I decide the max amount? If i can change my icon sizes and my screen resolution it only makes sense.
Theres not going to be demand from application authors because application authors cant demand something thats this new.
Its kinda like how the industry didnt demand peer to peer until after napster was made. You have the technology, now we need some ways for developers to take advantage of it, then the demand will come, not from developers but from the users who will then create developer damand.
Kinda like alpha channel, developers dont care about that its the users who demand that.
Yeah KDE is mature, we arent even debating that, the problem with KDE is, while its mature, its still not at the level of OSX. OSX still has it beat in terms of ease of use, eye candy etc, to beat OSX it needs animated icons, SVG icons, alpha channel, and great usability and functionality, If KDE developers focus on the small details (which is what KDE lacks right now) KDE could be competiting with OSX in about a year.
In trying to explain how usability must be improved everywhere, and how kde should focus on its exclusive features,
if you looked at my other posts also mention alpha channeling, genie effects, and motion blur, i mention how lindows and others should fund enhancements to xfree, i mentioned how after xfree is improved kde should focus on improving kdes usability not just by adding eye candy but by making it useful.
ok so when will they use the icon animation ability of KDE to improve useability while also providing eyecandy?
Right now its useless flash put your mouse over a folder and it opens, its not useful like put a cd in your cd rom drive and hit burn and a spinning burning cd,
IF you say its a video card issue, how about improving the animated icons, I'm not talking about going overboard, but allowing the user to decide the frame rate, allowing our actions to decide the animations of an icon, so an icon can have several diffrent animations, cd icon should have a music cd animation, a burning cd animation for burning, a game cd animation, a dvd movie animation, so anyone who doesnt know computers can understand what is going on by looking at the icon animate.
I'm talking about improving the animation in terms of frames per second,, doing that would do alot for eyecandy and ease of use, if its done right.
Xfree can support this, people have the ram to do it, and the cpu power but if they dont, they should be able to decide the frame rate just like the decide the icon sizes.
First, we should be able to set the max framerate of the animations.
Second developers should be able to create animations so programs illustrate our actions.
You put a CD in your CD rom and its a game CD, you should see maybe a little light or flash on the desktop which turns into a little spinning CD, if the game programmers wrote an animation for their icon, the doom CD could have an animated icon of the devil or whatever.
Or you could set it up so when you run a program the icon animate.
When you burn a CD a spinning burning CD animation could appear, why would this be useful? someone who doesnt know a damn thing about computers could look at that burning spinning Cd icon and know what the computer is doing without opening up any programs.
Animation is what seperates OSX from linux, the genie effect, alpha channeling, that extra level of overkill eyecandy is what people want and need for ease of use.
I'm sorry but KDE has a long long way to go before impressing anyone with its eye candy.
why even bother showing off eye candy when its just drop shadows or anti aliased fonts,
The animated icons was a good start, they should improve that so for example you can take a gaim icon or instant message icon from your desktop and put it on your panel somewhere and when you get a msg it animates, or when its on your desktop and you get a msg it animates.
When you put a Cd in the CD drive, the CD icon should appear and begin to spin, to animate whats happenining. Basically they should let our actions influence the animations, more so than just a random animation when you put your mouse over it. Maybe an animation when you actually click it, or if you modify a folder somehow like lock or unlock it, the animation should occur with the lock being slapped on the folder.
Animations is something that OSX and XP does not do, so why not improve that?
We need more eyecandy if KDE is supposed to ever be better than OSX or even XP, better icon animation (its a good start but improve on it and make it more useful)
Alpha channel, so we can have a alpha channeled kicker and panel
Some cool special effects, like genie effect or even motion blur,
Alpha Channel / Transparency
Genie effect or equally impressive effects.
They seriously need to get 4-5 developers working on a project with just THAT specific purpose, of improving the eyecandy in KDE. OR maybe someone like Lindows can fund development of xfree86's render extention.
I'd do it, honestly I dont mind ads if its a good peice of free software,
ICQ has ads and I dont really complain about it.
Opera once had ads too, so what?
I think ads should be used to fund some open source development.
Functionality? Ok whats wrong with E16.5 in terms of functionality?
Stability? Its more stable than Gnome by far.
Flash and Eye Candy? More than Gnome will ever have.
I want a desktop to compare to OSX, save functionality for Gnome.
Even if Gnome has the best functionality KDE is still kicking its ass with its better eye candy and worthless features that geeks dont care about but all the casual users love.
Exactly why cant slashdot editors add the KDE donation page so it doesnt seem so biased,
This is supposed to be a fair site not a site to politically promote gnome, its bad enough you have the gnome foot icon all over this site, but now we have to have promotions for gnome donations without KDE or anything else?
Lets be fair
or else its going to be a holywar.
Better for it to be beggar software than for it to be overpriced $300 software
But I guess you'd prefer idiotware over beggarware considering only idiots want to be forced to pay for something when it can be free
They dont need any more money, they have more money than KDE, they had Eazels 15 million, they have Ximnian giving them money, They have Sun and IBM helping them.
I'll Donate to Enlightenment before I'd donate to Gnome, Gnome is as good as its going to get, its been years, the interface to Gnome hasnt improved at all except for Nautilus (what a waste of 15 million dollars when its not even better than KDE)
Gnome needs to innovate before I give them money.
Lets support Enlgihtenment.
Why advertisements to gnome donations but not KDE, not Enlightenment, no, no posts on that?
Why support Gnome? Gnome has enough support from Sun and IBM, support KDE, they dont have big companies helping them out like Ximian, IBM, Sun etc.
you can use any version of microft windows to use IMs.
but IMs are not one technology like the phone. That is the diffrence.
Phone companies, yes we should have a few diffrent ones.
You are a fucking idiot, comparing IMs to a phone is like comparing the windows GUI to the Linux GUI and trying to figure out what OS is better.
You are just comparing the outside client GUI, not the protocols which are what really matters, or the servers they run on.
Walking is for old 70 year old out of shape obese people, its not going to help guys in their 20s who want washboard abs.
Walking a few miles a day wont make you lose weight, it only burns maybe 100 calories, you need to burn 3000 to lose a pound.
You are right losing weight wont make you look any better, you have to lift weights to change that.
Cardio is good for your endurance.
anyone can have a maintainable diet.
Stop buying junkfood, only buy healthy food, eat the same exact 3 meals every single day in the same exact portions at the same exact time, think of food as fuel and not as something which is supposed to taste good.
You'll be ripped in a few months.
20lbs of water
not 20lbs of fat.
Its impossible, yes 100 percent impossible to lose 20lbs of pure fat in such a short amount of time UNLESS you lose mostly water and muscle along with it.
You lost 20lbs of weight, but chances are you lost alot of muscle and water, not fat. Even when in ketosis unless you have a super fast metabolism the body only burns as much fuel as it needs per day, so if you need 3000 calories per day (thats a pound of fat) if you burn pure fat for a week its still only 7lbs.
running doesnt do anything to your metabolism.
lifting weights and building muscle is the only real way to increase metabolism.
Running mostly burns carbs and sugar for the first 45 minutes and most people unless they are marathon type athletes cant run for hours, not to mention you'll only burn a few hundred calories when its all over.
Its easier to just not eat those calories.
When you diet, you decide not to eat certain foods as a habit.
This means dont eat alot of sugar, or alot of generally unhealthy foods, eat mostly the same boring foods everyday, and forget about stupid nonsense like taste, and you'll be healthy.
Your shape wont change however unless you lift weights.
To lose weight you simply take in less calories than your maintnance.
If you need 2000 calories to support your 190lbs, you go down to 1900 calories, then 2 weeks later go down to 1800 and stay around there for about 4-5 months. Occassionally to keep your metabolism fast you do a 3000-4000 calorie day once a week.
The low carb thing is healthy but it wont make you lose weight for long because you cant stay in ketosis for 6 months or so which is about how long it will take to lose about 50lbs