Everybody has plenty of opportunity for wealth- it just takes effort.
there's a great, short read written by barbara ehrenreich called nickel and dimed. she's a reporter who wrote about her experience of going "undercover" for months as a member of the working poor.
i think a lot of people hold the view you stated above. and it certainly has some truth to it. but ehrenreich presents strong empirical evidence to the contrary and as matter of intellectual honesty, it's worth checking it out to see if you can keep your beliefs intact, need to modify them, or even reject them after reading it.
The 'test' is supposed, one assumes, to tell computers from humans.
I thought it was simply an intelligence test. Specifically, you could apply it to computers to determine if computers were intelligent as Turing describes, but strictly speaking, it's an intelligence test. Presumably you could also use it to test a brain-in-a-vat--imagine someday we're able to transplant a brain outside of a human body and hook it up to a computer terminal and we want to know if the brain-in-a-vat is intelligent.
In any case, as a sufficient test for intelligence, it doesn't need to reliably tell humans from humans. However, the argument goes, if you *do* pass it, then you are intelligent. That does not (logically) imply that if you fail it, you are not intelligent.
I don't know that the comparison to democracy is appropriate. I think the Loebner quote you mentioned is actually more apt: i.e. I can't define pornography in any conventional scientific sense, but I know it when I see it. Which I think supports the Turing Test.
That testers can believe that humans are computers is why it will never be a 'test'. Turing himself only ever called it the 'Imitation Game'.
I'm not sure I understand why that implies the Turing Test/Imitation Game could never be a "test". As I understood Turing's argument, passing the Turing Test constitutes a sufficient condition for intelligence. Not a necessary condition.
And yes, I also thought that the Loebner quote was great. And the bit about how Loebner now gets to claim Minksy is a co-sponsor of the Prize.
last time i was trying to find a (relatively) inexpensive tape backup solution, i remember that ecrix had some promising looking stuff.
anyway, it appears exabyte acquired them and since i last looked there is now a 2nd generation drive--80GB native. drives are SCSI or firewire, and are ~1000.00. not sure what the tapes cost.
anyone have any experiences to relate regarding these? how these compare to dlt? i see that ibm is selling these as an option to some of their servers now.
i have the region 2 (japanese) of spirited away--but it's still shrink-wrapped, so i can't give a first-person account:P nevertheless, here are plenty of firsthand accounts of the red tint.
on the same forum there is another thread reporting that the publisher of the korean release (dec 7) has announced that it will not have the red tint--although i'm not sure how that's been arranged. this seems to be a pretty severe acknowledgement of the red tint problem if the report is true.
some figures for the metric-impaired ;)
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Fuel tank capacity: 6.5L (1.7 gal) Fuel efficiency: 100lm/l (235 mi/gal) Top speed: 120km/h (74.5 mi/h) Weight: 290kg (639lb) Trunk capacity: 80L (2.82 cubic ft) (err, i think i converted this one right)
this is an effin cool car:) no side mirrors--uses cameras and twin dash-mounted displays. it has a flywheel too.
my only question (besides when can i get one in the u.s. and for how much) was about the use of magnesium for various components (including the fuel tank i believe). i thought magnesium was highly flammable or something... clearly i haven't retained anything from chem.
Isn't the next logical step for the RIAA to sue U.S. airlines for continuing to provide service to countries known to harbor merchants of pirated music?;)
I mean it's the airlines' responsibility to ensure that music pirates aren't using their routes to facilitate their misdeeds.
It's a good thing the RIAA hasn't heard of those Canadian pirates, coz then we'd have to shut down the highways, too.
wow. i'd be the little fellow sitting on the other shoulder yelling "run away! run away!"
i attended two classes at a california community college: they were far and away the saddest and most depressing educational experiences of my life. the students were completely apathetic. no participation whatsoever. and the instructors have about the lowest set of expectations of their students you could imagine (although honestly, probably justified).
community college classes that are for kicks--like picking up a smattering of a language or furniture-making, etc. sound like they're fine from what i've heard. but taking classes at a cc instead of at uni when you have the option is just silly.
cc in california is dirt cheap so there's that. and if you don't want to study, i suppose there's that.
there are a lot of cards out there that will do 1600x1200 or better via dvi.
i know for a fact there are geforce2mx cards that can push out 1920x1200. search around for samsung 240t users and you'll find plenty of hi-res (1920x1200) dvi cards.
however, unless you plan on keeping your computer pretty close to your display, i think your bigger problem will be the length limitations of dvi cabling: 3-5 meters.
yay, comrades in arms. i was trying to find a solution for this awhile back with my openbsd box. i figured i could hook up my cable modem and my neighbor's dsl for a) a fatter pipe, but mostly b) reliability--in case one of the services goes down.
The last remaining part of the puzzle is having the gateway loadbalance the three available default routes per connection stream, either round-robin or by utilization.
there are also models of the dign with firewire and usb in front. now you just have to figure out a way to get one: last i read, international orders had a 50 unit minimum. there was some u.s. outfit that was going to start selling one of the models though--sorry don't have the url (i know, what a tease).
I was just in Korea to watch the World Cup. I couldn't believe how wired Seoul was. People who think the San Francisco Bay Area is wired haven't been to Seoul recently.
Seoul has some insanely large amount internet cafes with super-speedy boxes and nice, flat crt's that cost about $0.80/hr to use. Seoul also has Webvan-like services that can do same-day delivery if you order early enough in the day.
And everyone I met seemed to have a cable modem at home. And I can't even count the number of times I saw some mom-and-pop restaurant even in the outskirts of Seoul sporting the URL for their homepage on their business sign.
look at this one too, though. the numbers you were comparing are for two pretty different models--different capacities, platters, etc.
and here's a quote pulled from the above link: "To differentiate their offerings from the competition, one of WD's largest OEMs recently requested an ATA drive with an 8-megabyte buffer. The manufacturer responded by retooling its current flagship, the WD1000BB, with an 8-meg cache."
which suggests that the cache bump was the only difference.
this is just theory, right? or do you have some benchmarks that you can link to?
i seem to recall that storagereview showed some marked performance improvements between the western digital xxxxBB and xxxxJB (aka "special edition") drives that supposedly only differ in the amount of cache (2MB vs 8MB).
well i don't know squat about either protocol, but i did notice that VOCAL features: H.323 Translator The H.323 Translator now supports gateway trunking. Before, it was only supporting NetMeeting as endpoints.
what do you do when someone changes departments? what happens when you hire someone who is 50% time in one department and 50% in another? etc. etc.
on a more humorous level, what about when you hire john english to to teach math and/or english? =) oh better yet, arthur english the math teacher, but of course he goes by art;)
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Everybody has plenty of opportunity for wealth- it just takes effort.
there's a great, short read written by barbara ehrenreich called nickel and dimed . she's a reporter who wrote about her experience of going "undercover" for months as a member of the working poor.
i think a lot of people hold the view you stated above. and it certainly has some truth to it. but ehrenreich presents strong empirical evidence to the contrary and as matter of intellectual honesty, it's worth checking it out to see if you can keep your beliefs intact, need to modify them, or even reject them after reading it.
The 'test' is supposed, one assumes, to tell computers from humans.
I thought it was simply an intelligence test. Specifically, you could apply it to computers to determine if computers were intelligent as Turing describes, but strictly speaking, it's an intelligence test. Presumably you could also use it to test a brain-in-a-vat--imagine someday we're able to transplant a brain outside of a human body and hook it up to a computer terminal and we want to know if the brain-in-a-vat is intelligent.
In any case, as a sufficient test for intelligence, it doesn't need to reliably tell humans from humans. However, the argument goes, if you *do* pass it, then you are intelligent. That does not (logically) imply that if you fail it, you are not intelligent.
I don't know that the comparison to democracy is appropriate. I think the Loebner quote you mentioned is actually more apt: i.e. I can't define pornography in any conventional scientific sense, but I know it when I see it. Which I think supports the Turing Test.
That testers can believe that humans are computers is why it will never be a 'test'. Turing himself only ever called it the 'Imitation Game'.
I'm not sure I understand why that implies the Turing Test/Imitation Game could never be a "test". As I understood Turing's argument, passing the Turing Test constitutes a sufficient condition for intelligence. Not a necessary condition.
And yes, I also thought that the Loebner quote was great. And the bit about how Loebner now gets to claim Minksy is a co-sponsor of the Prize.
last time i was trying to find a (relatively) inexpensive tape backup solution, i remember that ecrix had some promising looking stuff.
anyway, it appears exabyte acquired them and since i last looked there is now a 2nd generation drive--80GB native. drives are SCSI or firewire, and are ~1000.00. not sure what the tapes cost.
anyone have any experiences to relate regarding these? how these compare to dlt? i see that ibm is selling these as an option to some of their servers now.
i have the region 2 (japanese) of spirited away--but it's still shrink-wrapped, so i can't give a first-person account :P nevertheless, here are plenty of firsthand accounts of the red tint.
on the same forum there is another thread reporting that the publisher of the korean release (dec 7) has announced that it will not have the red tint--although i'm not sure how that's been arranged. this seems to be a pretty severe acknowledgement of the red tint problem if the report is true.
Fuel tank capacity: 6.5L (1.7 gal)
:)
Fuel efficiency: 100lm/l (235 mi/gal)
Top speed: 120km/h (74.5 mi/h)
Weight: 290kg (639lb)
Trunk capacity: 80L (2.82 cubic ft) (err, i think i converted this one right)
this is an effin cool car
no side mirrors--uses cameras and twin dash-mounted displays. it has a flywheel too.
my only question (besides when can i get one in the u.s. and for how much) was about the use of magnesium for various components (including the fuel tank i believe). i thought magnesium was highly flammable or something... clearly i haven't retained anything from chem.
You can't be x times quieter than something. Its not possible. You can be x times louder, but not quieter.
i don't get it. given:
"A is x times louder than B"
why would it be incorrect to claim: B is x times quieter than A?
or, why is this case any different from A > B B A?
OT, but regarding your sig: wasn't Socrates tried and executed for impiety and "corrupting the youth" of Athens--and not banished for his views?
Isn't the next logical step for the RIAA to sue U.S. airlines for continuing to provide service to countries known to harbor merchants of pirated music? ;)
I mean it's the airlines' responsibility to ensure that music pirates aren't using their routes to facilitate their misdeeds.
It's a good thing the RIAA hasn't heard of those Canadian pirates, coz then we'd have to shut down the highways, too.
wow. i'd be the little fellow sitting on the other shoulder yelling "run away! run away!"
i attended two classes at a california community college: they were far and away the saddest and most depressing educational experiences of my life. the students were completely apathetic. no participation whatsoever. and the instructors have about the lowest set of expectations of their students you could imagine (although honestly, probably justified).
community college classes that are for kicks--like picking up a smattering of a language or furniture-making, etc. sound like they're fine from what i've heard. but taking classes at a cc instead of at uni when you have the option is just silly.
cc in california is dirt cheap so there's that. and if you don't want to study, i suppose there's that.
there are a lot of cards out there that will do 1600x1200 or better via dvi.
i know for a fact there are geforce2mx cards that can push out 1920x1200. search around for samsung 240t users and you'll find plenty of hi-res (1920x1200) dvi cards.
however, unless you plan on keeping your computer pretty close to your display, i think your bigger problem will be the length limitations of dvi cabling: 3-5 meters.
yay, comrades in arms. i was trying to find a solution for this awhile back with my openbsd box. i figured i could hook up my cable modem and my neighbor's dsl for a) a fatter pipe, but mostly b) reliability--in case one of the services goes down.
:)
The last remaining part of the puzzle is having the gateway loadbalance the three available default routes per connection stream, either round-robin or by utilization.
and availability
there are also models of the dign with firewire and usb in front. now you just have to figure out a way to get one: last i read, international orders had a 50 unit minimum. there was some u.s. outfit that was going to start selling one of the models though--sorry don't have the url (i know, what a tease).
muad-dib!
I was just in Korea to watch the World Cup. I couldn't believe how wired Seoul was. People who think the San Francisco Bay Area is wired haven't been to Seoul recently.
Seoul has some insanely large amount internet cafes with super-speedy boxes and nice, flat crt's that cost about $0.80/hr to use. Seoul also has Webvan-like services that can do same-day delivery if you order early enough in the day.
And everyone I met seemed to have a cable modem at home. And I can't even count the number of times I saw some mom-and-pop restaurant even in the outskirts of Seoul sporting the URL for their homepage on their business sign.
look at this one too, though. the numbers you were comparing are for two pretty different models--different capacities, platters, etc.
and here's a quote pulled from the above link:
"To differentiate their offerings from the competition, one of WD's largest OEMs recently requested an ATA drive with an 8-megabyte buffer. The manufacturer responded by retooling its current flagship, the WD1000BB, with an 8-meg cache."
which suggests that the cache bump was the only difference.
ok, i'll bite:
But the buffers are insignificant.
this is just theory, right? or do you have some benchmarks that you can link to?
i seem to recall that storagereview showed some marked performance improvements between the western digital xxxxBB and xxxxJB (aka "special edition") drives that supposedly only differ in the amount of cache (2MB vs 8MB).
well i don't know squat about either protocol, but i did notice that VOCAL features:
H.323 Translator
The H.323 Translator now supports gateway trunking. Before, it was only supporting NetMeeting as endpoints.
pictured here?
now those are words that you rarely find together:
Oracle...low cost
Future releases...on-time
what do you do when someone changes departments? what happens when you hire someone who is 50% time in one department and 50% in another? etc. etc.
;)
on a more humorous level, what about when you hire john english to to teach math and/or english? =)
oh better yet, arthur english the math teacher, but of course he goes by art
oh look kids, it's a (poorly disguised) goatse.cx link.