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What Does The Internet Look Like?
scubacuda writes "What does the Internet have to do with the network of sexual partners? More than you think, according to this Economist article on Albert-Laslo Barabasi's attempt to 'present a general framework for improving the accuracy of Internet models' by treating the net 'as though it were a natural phenomenom.' Dr. Barabasi's findings that the Internet is 'scale free' has a lot of interesting implications: resistance to human failures, as well as vulnerability to malicious attacks. Dr. Barabasi's goal is to create models that are 'statistically indistinguishable from the real Internet. When and if that is achieved, the models should have predictive, as well as descriptive, power.' (BBC and News Factor had stories on his work earlier)"
Uh huh.. I think we all know just what kind of 'Internet models' he's referring to! *wink wink* *nudge nudge*
I wonder which site, err section of the net, was his favorite?
"They do not preach that their god will rouse them, a little before the Nuts work loose." Kipling, 'The Sons of Martha'
This person calls himself a scientist. It's not luck. He obviously overlooks the power of a good pick-up line
"player 4 hit player 1 with 0 stroms"
Hopefully it's starting to look at lot more like this.
The government has a defect: it's potentially democratic. Corporations have no defect: they're pure tyrannies. -Chomsky
Geeks have a difficult enought time trying to get laid just once. Who has a network of them? Is this like a Beowulf cluster?
What does the Internet have to do with the network of sexual partners?
If the internet had anything to do with the sexual partners of the slashdot crowd it wouldn't be much of a network, just a collection of standalone PCs.
The linked article is very weak. His homepage is here:
nd.edu/~alb/
The specific article is here:
nd.edu/~networks/PDF/NatureImmunol%202002.pdf
Hopefully Notre Dame can handle the traffic.
-- jetlag --
Amd what, exactly, is a phenomenom? If peogle can't be brothered to spell-check their posts, I cam't be botnered to read thek.
Am I the only one who heard Roxette to sing "I'm gonna get blitzed for some sex"?
And I thought it was because I was ugly....
Jouster
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See? It's simple. Why the need to do this? The people that get it, get it. Those that don't, probably don't need to, and you sure don't want to try to explain it to them.
Sent from your iPad.
your website sucks.
the fact that you have to troll for hits is just pathetic.
you don't see slashdotters on your site saying "visit slashdot.org!"
you know why?
because you suck balls.
Sounds like a slick way of talking about 'net pr0n. I mean, come on with all this new-age jargon of how the 'net is a natural thing, "Just like you and me, baby." =]
-Valiss
That's why cmdrTaco is always over at Cowboyneel's house helping him add that "backdoor" to his "network".
Well, according to this article, the internet is becoming all muddy..:(
Slashdot has a link to itself (when you click on their logo). What does that mean in terms of the network of sexual partners?
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First, "Where Wizards Stay up Late: The Origins of the Internet" gives you a great history lesson on the internet from pre ARPA to the present.7 08214X/qid=1033932106/sr=1-9/ref=sr_1_9/104-182014 6-7795912?v=glance
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http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/038
Next, "Network models in population biology" talks about how networks form in nature.
http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/item.asp?Catalog=Bo
It's interesting to read the above articles keeping these books in mind because of the clear picture we can gain from nature.
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Is there a psychological term related to getting your stories rejected on slashdot?
If the Internet is like a network of sexual partners, then a slashdotting must be like the most unmerciful gangbang ever.
I'd suggest you don't use Slashdot as your only news source, or you will suffer permanent brain damage.
You think the internet is like sex?
You really need to get out more.
--T
http://www.theMediaBunker.com
I guess he found the Sex Chart (http://www.attrition.org/hosted/sexchart/sexchart .9.30)
-dk
I recorded a bit of it. Enjoy. It's about 200k mp3.
http://www.boog.co.uk/media/barabasiinterview.mp3
mogorific carpentry experiments
What interests me is how such models apply to human networks. The article mentions sexual relationships, and implies that effort in combating AIDS should be targetted at key individuals, not randomly throughout the population. This draws a parallel with the Internet, which is (the article says) resistant to random failure but vulnerable to targetted attacks.
Consider the implications for other kinds of human networks if this theory is true. E.g. to fight crime, it does not pay to incarcerate minor felons. One has to take out the most important 'hubs', being the bosses.
This may seem obvious, but I find it ironic that we are using knowledge taken from modeling one of our creations (the Internet) to understand ourselves.
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What phenomena did this columnist exactly try to explain? I quess there must be some sense in this. But it does not ehmm.. really open to me. Does he want to stay that the spreading of viruses could be stopped by fixing the aortas (of the net)... or something else.
Wife's network of sexual partners: One level deep - me
Man's network of sexual partners: 75,000 levels deep, all female (including partners of partners)
Net porn makes this possible.
Both are good ways to spread a virus.
Sigs are bad for your health.
It's original, let's apply Freud to the Internet and what do you get?
...is probably not too insightful. The really big numbers (in terms of sex partners) are put up by prostitutes, who may not feel lucky to be doing what they're doing.
...with the network of sexual partners?
:-)
Well, it seems that for a lot of people, the Internet is their sexual partner...
So, could anyone give me a few examples of the people who are the backbones of sex? I'd sure like to bone them right back, since they obviously handle a large percentage of all sex in the world.
Even if they won't be boned by me, maybe they could carry my requests to distant parts of the world to someone who might?
I choose to remain celibate, like my father and his father before him.
"Hey baby, you know research has shown that the network of human sexual partners seems to be scale-free."
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It'd better not be bloody pink.
-- Bobbins
If he's serious, it's a pretty major logical blunder. Properties shared by two things (e.g., that the internet and some metaphor/model for the internet) do *NOT* imply the identity of those things, and certainly shouldn't be used as a justification for taking some particular action toward one thing or the other.
This is the same logic employed by tyrants and dictators (and bad scientists).
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Maybe you're just going to the wrong web sites?
Slashdot is definitely not like sex.
Have you been stalked by Seth today?
Nah, everyone knows the Internet is better than sex.
Jouster
Weird... I thought somebody would have done it by now... I've had sex with two people on it, yet my name isn't there. That's ok by me. :)
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Well, it's mostly white with green with black text, also some parts of it have a grey background. Around it is a black border which on top contains a light-blue ad from Microsoft Small Business Solutions. Oh, and if you've been nice, it contains that neat moderation boxes.
Programming can be fun again. Film at 11.
I'm not sure if that's funny or if that's a troll. If I had mod points my head would explode.
We're going to make information free Mr. Anderson, whether you like it, or not.
The internet looks like a good way
to share data, but not a good way
to send private data.
Yes, it'll work for you, too. You'd be amazed what dressing well, maintaining some personal grooming, a big smile (think someone mailed you a new TiBook smile), and an enthusiastic "hi" will get you.
Steve
..don't panic
You know that Net traffic doubles every three months, so you're confident that this will work, for all Half the world's poulation still hasn't made a phone call?
Get thee glass eyes, and, like a scurvy politician, seem to see things thou dost not.--King Lear
He also applies these ideas to the spread of new ideas and fashions - eg how a particular style of shoes become popular, just by making sure the primary trendsetters are wearing them.
Its an excellent book!
"from the and-what-does-it-taste-like dept."
It tastes like grape-aid.
Hell, I am not certain if it's funny or a troll.
Jouster
(posting anonymously to lessen the pain)
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The following speaks best to what it is: "When and if that is achieved, the models should have predictive, as well as descriptive, power." ;)
When and if are very big words in forecasting
"Academicians are more likely to share each other's toothbrush than each other's nomenclature."
Cohen
http://www.nd.edu/~networks/index.html
Chapter 1 of the book is up online (be ready to zoom):http://www.nd.edu/~networks/linked/newfile3
I could summarize the net in one sentence:
"You are in a maze of twisty tunnels, all alike"
There, the internet.
Trolling is a art,
Peacock Maps makes some good maps such as this one. I first found out about it at ThinkGeek and later bought two for one at home and ine my dorm. Too bad they don't have a 2002 poster yet.
my sexual partner better be free of scales!
Actually, sexual activity is a really good way to burn energy/calories/etc. People with a really cranked sex drive can get in shape from their bedroom activities.
I suppose it's a trend. Sex=possible weight-loss,muscle gain=better looking partner=more sex
So people with a lot of sexual output probably will be happily surprised when next stepping on the ol' bathroom scale.
Next time you want to pick somebody up, just tell them:
Do you know that strong sexual activity is a great way to get in shape? How about you and I do some workouts together - phorm
So...erm...how many of these hosts have their interfaces set to "Promiscuous"?
"Mod, mod, mod...and another troll bites the dust."
Since Al Gore created the Internet (he said so himself, and who is he to lie?), you'd guess that the Internet should look like him: stiff, robotic, and given to facilitating campaign-finance related crimes.
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Oh, and CmdrTaco rapes his hand
The Internet Sex Chart
What does the internet look like?
... Mud"
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"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
"And in that, Slick Henry, I'll see the shape."
Suffering whiplash from seeing a Gibson story become a real-live Slashdot post.
He put his boots up on the table and made a face. "The sig," he smirked. "You can waste your life in search of the sig."
boasted of 10000 plus partners
Linked: the new science of networks is the full length version of this article, and presents some interesting if somewhat superficial coverage of scale-free networks in computers, nature, and society. I found it to be a worthwhile read.
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If we have to believe the tv, the Internet sounds like a modem screeching...
So it will probably look like a strangled pig.
Look at SeattleWireless' HowDoesThisWikiLookLike there are few pages with a lot of references to or from other pages, and many pages with few references. It seems to follow a 'power law' too(~ 'scale free').
/. on the Wiki phenomenon (sites everybody can contribute to, like WikiPedia.com ( more than 95,000 pages!).
So, the 'inside' of the web seems to follow the same rules. It is particulary interresting with wikis because of the unplanned, distributed growth (like the Internet).
As the belgian provider, where the pictures are, seems to be down. You can also see the pictures in ReseauCitoyen.be's TopologieDuWiki
I thing it would be a good idea to have a discussion on
I know of only one book on the subject : "The Wiki Way: Collaboration and Sharing on the Internet" by Bo Leuf, Ward Cunningham (of c2.com, creator of the Wiki concept).
If you search Google for 'RecentChanges' (a good marker for wikis (?)), you get a lot of them, more and more (A survey by country domain sept->oct 2002)
There are some scientific papers at GaTech.edu
Similar research has been done on the structure of instant messaging networks. The possible applications to slowing virulent IM worms was also discussed.
http://www.arxiv.org/abs/cond-mat/0206378
read the book Linked - very good - and you'll understand what the correlation between networks and sex exists
It should be more like:
Geeks use the internet a lot, which is like sex
Therefore Geeks are SEX gods, and attractive to every woman
in girum imus nocte et consumimur igni
Well, I thought it was big, fluffy, and pink, with 18 legs and 4 eyes :)
Who knows?
When you are about to do an objective and scientific piece of investigation
of a topic, it is well to gave the answer firmly in hand, so that you can
proceed forthrightly, without being deflected or swayed, directly to the goal.
-- Amrom Katz
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