If the film blows goats, you don't get the rapid review via internet convincing people in countries that are a day behind not to go. This way they conveniently lock in their profits regardless of quality.
This is ageneral trend in "big" films anyway. Increasingly the studios look for the HUGE opening weekend. That way, even if the film sucks they still have most of their cash back before word of mouth can get around...
Oddly films with staying power tend to be, long term, better money makers. STudios don't think long term however.
The same is, of course, true of the record industry. No one is interested in the long term earners anymore - the fast buck is everything. Don't believe me that albums with ongoing appeal aren't worth more?
These days if an album manages to sell 10 million copies before it gets forgotten it's done very well. Back in 1973 Pink Floyd released Dark Side of the Moon. It didn't seel stunningly well, but hovered around in the top 100 album charts. Eventually it left the top 100 album charts in 1986, before bounding back in several weeks later. It has sold 30 million copies and is STILL selling very well.
Similar things could be said about Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, etc. I just don't have numbers on hand.
Being able to have the end user making a really nice template and have a perl script fill it then pass it off to a pdf or printer is key.
As other people have commented elsewhere, this was one reason nroff and TeX were so cool - you wrote a basic template and it was very easy to have a script fill in the fields - then voila postscript ready to go to the printer. I don't use nroff/troff, so I don't know if it has a PDF output these days (though I imagine it does). Certainly TeX does.
I did always wonder why no one made a nice frontend for generating TeX templates etc. for exactly this purpose - let the end users design the templates instead of a TeX guru...
So having an XML-based document format for this would be wonderful, especially if OpenOffice would provide a command-line utility for converting from OO format to PDF.
If all you want to do is get to PDF then LaTeX and pdfLaTex are not a bad method for doing it. Certainly the hyperref package makes producing fully linked PDF documents a breeze, and in pdfLaTex inclusion on PNG graphics is also very easy.
The distinct downside is that ultimately you want to write your own documentclass in TeX/LaTeX for the reports (thus alleviating a lot of the hassle of trying to force a basic LaTeX documentclass to do formatting it wasn't intended to do. This can create very simple to generate and very professional looking output - but it is a bitch to write, and you really want to learn your TeX to do it right. It would be a "write once" deal though if you do it right.
If OpenOffice had a nice easy way to do this sort of thing, so you didn't have to be a TeX guru to set it all up, then certainly it would be great.
But I don't use office suites. I have plenty of perl scripts to play with, reformat (so to speak - convert articles to slides etc.), and produce LaTeX, which has been a readily available option for years. I'm sure if I end up using StarOffice or OpenOffice.org then I may well be inclined to produce useful scripts for those - in the meantime though I'm quite happy with what I've got.
"As we well know, all shareware is subjected to the most stringent of audits by the proprietary software community prior to release."
Sorry, I should have been clear. I wasn't trying to imply that this was something bad about OSS, merely that just because you found some bad OSS doesn't mean all OSS sucks. Just because you found some particularly poor text editor doesn't mean OSS doesn't produce good text editor. Just because you found poor Crypto doesn't mean that OSS sucks at Crypto.
As you point out, I'm sure if we looked at the shareware world we could find plenty of equally shoddy crypto products - in fact I KNOW we can, I've seen some. I've seen some very shoddy payware crypto products.
My point was simply that the existence of bad Crypto products doesn't really mean much of anything.
I'm pretty sure there are some pretty pathetic, sad window managers out there too. Some of the text editors are rather less than impressive as well. There are all manner of dodgy MP3 managements systems. OSS creates all manner of bad software because ANYONE can code something up and release it.
The security and cryptography field just highlights the problem because there are so many opportunities to do something particularly stupid in those fields. Anyone can write a cryptosystem that they can't break themselves. Unfortunately a lot of people figure if they can't break it, then neither can anyone else...
That's why I don't think we who value our basic liberties have much time left. Others might ask why I haven't moved (I live in the U.S.), without realizing that there really isn't any place on the globe worth moving to.
While not perfect, New Zealand is at least making some steps in the right direction. The Government is currently (albeit very slowly) looking at restricting the power of software patents. This came after a Canadian company sued a whole bunch of NZ online retailers for patent violations. Apparently they had a patent on automatically calculating shipping and currency conversion. The NZ companies balked and said shipping currency conversion was kind of obvious, especially when most buyers from a NZ online website will be from overseas. They have banded together to fight the legal action, and given that this amounted to a large chunk of NZs online retail operators, they successfully lobbied the government to look into this sort of thing.
As I say, it isn't perfect. The government hasn't DONE anything. But they are at least looking at it - that is, things are at least heading in the right direction for once. New Zealand has also successfully dodged a DMCA look alike so far after heavy public submissions when the government was looking at digital copyright.
Given that Linux is generally stronger in Europe than the US (where MS pretty much rules all), comments from the likes of Torvalds and Cox will carry more weight than they would in the US.
Then again, hefty campaign donations from rich software firms probably carry a fair amount of weight too...
Okay, there's a hole here, that's definitely bad. Still it would be nice if lsh could manage to gain some share of the ssh market. It has worried me for a while that OpenSSH has become the standard, which, unfortunately, creates a monoculture. A monoculture of ssh implementations is as vulnerable to massive infection as a monculture of windows boxes (okay, maybe windows has more holes, but its the massive part I'm concerned with).
If the market on ssh implementations was a little more split, it would be a little more difficult to write a worm that could wreak utter havoc. Repeat after me: Monoculture is bad.
This seems like a reasonably creative effort, but then again someone could try coding up something like this I think they overrate the real effectiveness of such a system in the description, but it certainly would be nasty if it actually coordinated its spread as effectively as they claim is possible.
It was on show in Wellington New Zealand for a few months. I went a couple times. It is a fantastic exhibition, with a huge amunt of the props, costumes and models, as well as a lot of detail on how various CGI things were done. Everything from the shards of Narsil, to orginal design sketches by Alan Lee.
I highly recommend attending if it you get the chance.
Furthermore, there are several key feature sets that the article ignores that are critical for an enterprise desktop rollout: ---Networking - can this thing jump onto the company's windows network plug and play or do you have to go learn Samba3?
---Application Compatibility - the company will likely have legacy or windows apps they need to run. Does Sun desktop do anything for them?
---Mail server - I know they are using Gnome, but does Sun have any deal with Novell (current home of Ximian) to let it talk to Exchange?
---Installer - Did he try to install it? If you are going to have to put it on 2000 desktops at a company, I hope that works very very well.
---Distribution - What distribution is this residing on. This could make a huge difference in how well the thing works. Red Hat and dependancy hell? No thanks.
I'm pretty agnostic about this whole deal, but there are some points that can be spoken to a little:
(Networking) givent that the $50 a month covers a Sun support contract, I'm guessing that includes helping you set up any networking difficulties.
(Application Compatability) No idea on this one I'm afriad.
(Mail Server) Once again, I wouldn't know if they have or not, but I'm guessing that they probably have given the ongoing support charge,
(Installer) Once again, welcome to the $50/user/year support cost. I assume that means they come and install it for you, so the quality of the installer isnt an issue.
(Distribution) I had heard that it was based on SuSe. Besides, once again, Sun is providing ongoing support themselves, so the distribution issues are less relevant.
Frighteningly close to the truth. The top 4 results are: Amazon, eBay, and MSN site which just has the following text about Redhat 9:
Red Hat 9.0 is a boon for those who already use it, but it's too expensive to warrant a switch from Windows. Try SuSE (or the free Red Hat) for a better mix of price and features.
And finally, at number 4 we have "Alternatives to Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP Learn about the Microsoft alternatives and how to move to them from open source products."
Further down the list you might run into less important linux sites like linux.com, redhat.com etc.
I note that links to SuSe, Redhat, Debian, Mandrake and the Kernel Archives are all in the first 10 results on google, with linux.org taking the top spot.
Hmm, I wonder which search engine I would trust for impartiality.
To be honest, I hope it just trashes boot sectors before writing random crap all over the hard drive. That might actually get the message through. All these soft viruses just make people think of it as an inconvenience. When something bad happens, people might just start sitting up and taking notice.
To be honest, that sort of worm isn't the one I would be worried about. The silent killer is going to be much more nasty, and it's a matter of time before somebody writes one (if they haven't already).
Consider this for a possibility: A worm that just sits quietly on the system. It does nothing obvious that would get it noticed by users. Once a day it finds a random Excel spreadsheet. It opens the spreadsheet and picks a random cell. It alters the value of that cell by 10%.
Lets hope no one is actually stupid or arrogant enough to try crap like that (but given humanity, realistically it's a matter of time)
Which poses an interesting question - why are there so few complete albums anymore? There are plenty of classic concept albums, from Sgt. Pepper, to the Wall, through to The Downward Spiral. There have been a lot of albums that were a single entity - sure they were broken into seperate tracks, but they needed to be listened to as a whole.
Do people have a sufficiently short attention soan that this concept is unappealing?
> Nealy is right about execution. Make a profit this quarter. Repeat. That is more important than "vision".
Except there are too many companies that make the mistake of only worrying about the next quarter, and forget about where they'll be standing in 2 or 5 years. That's what happened to a lot of the dot coms. They made a profit for the next quarter because the market was nuts. They lacked any way to make profits for the next few quarters after that - but neglected to put much effort into considering how to do that. Don't underestimate vision - it cna get you a long way.
What you need to look at is the FADE algorithm for large graphs - it approximates the effects of distant points by averaging them to a single node, allowing much fatser (makes the big Os more manageable for very large graphs) calculation.
...if terrorist sites or kiddie porn appear on their network, their CEO and board of directors will be habeas corpused off to Cuba? Or whatever the equivalent thing that New Zealand does to people they don't like.
We believe in very harsh punishments for such things...I believe traditionally we just send them to Australia.
Dune's been done to death. I was hoping he'd get William Gibson's Sprawl (Neuromancer, Count Zero, Mona Lisa Overdrive) trilogy.
As much as I like Peter's work, I'd much rather see Alex Proyas or Darren Aronofsky do these. Lets' be honest, they've got more of the right sort of style.
About 2 years ago the NZ government was taking submissions with regard to changes to copyright law, particularly with regard to digital copyright. A small campaign was mounted here to try and get enough submissions against DMCA style laws here, and I must admit that we were listened to and considered. At this stage any mooted changes haven't made it as far as a bill to be passed, so we don't know exactly what they'll do, but it has looked promising.
In general our government has shown some willingness to be somewhat open minded in considering technology issues, and to actually listen to what real tech people have to say, so hopefully this bill being considered will actually end up being fairly moderate and well considered.
Well it seems someone did - at least as well as it can be done (presuming that their shareware version does work, and the released passwords for the previous challenges were correct).
The joy of this for me is that, in the end it really comes down to a 7 bit exhaust to get started decrypting, and after that it's just a matter of decrypting each intermediary key in turn.
I felt the need to comment as there is much misinformation floating about here.
Pearse is well known here in NZ, and there has been quite a bit of research into what he did and did not actually achieve.
He certainly did not have a more advanced aircraft that the Wrights. Whether he actually managed any form of flight before the Wrights is somewhat debatable also. Certainly he managed powered (but uncontrolled) flight around the same time as the Wrights. The Wrights flight was significantly more important however, because they managed fully controlled flight, with controlled takeoff and landing. Pearse, at that time, did not manage such things.
Much of the popular literature about Pearse is largely myth making with regard to how well and when he flew - the facts generally point to the fact that he was really quite behind the Wrights.
Which is not to say he doesn't deserve a lot of credit for a remarkable achievement. This is a man who managed to independently (whether he flew after or not, he didn't copy) develop a workable aircraft in the middle of nowhere - back country New Zealand (near Oamaru I believe it was) was not exactly the height of technological advancement at the time.
We need to remember pioneers like Pearse, but we serve them better if we remember them correctly for what they truly achieved rather than for mythical achievements.
You're calling Kirin a beer?! Get it right buster! Kirin is a suh-weet, suh-weet, beer... uuuuuuggghghnnnngggn!
Ah, americans. Any beer that isn't american is good in comparison to american beer. Not to deride Kirin, which is a fine beer, but there are plenty of better beers out there. Monteiths from NZ, VB from Aus, preety much any pilsner from Czechoslavakia, Guines, and the list goes on.
It seems we have another distro based around GNU tools plus the other usual suspects. The only main difference I can see here is that it is running on Darwin instead of Linux or (Net|Open|Free)BSD.
It doesn't actually say so on the site, but given the software they do list, it is pretty clearly just running X like everybody else. Not that that is bad thing.
It would be nice if they could make it very Windowmaker/GNUStep centric for nostalgia sake though.
Anyway, it is good to see other kernels making it into new Distro's. It bodes well for the future.
All the crap I see in "View/Source" makes me cringe.
Am I one of the few people who considers the aesthetics of "view/source" to be important?
I love it when I can view the source of a website and get somethign entirely readable. It's kind of reassuring - and these days fairly easy using stylesheets.
Admittedly my website isn't the perfect picture of lovely source, but I'm not exactly a serious designer. I do make an effort to make it look nice in the source view anyway. As I say, it's not exactly that hard.
If the film blows goats, you don't get the rapid review via internet convincing people in countries that are a day behind not to go. This way they conveniently lock in their profits regardless of quality.
This is ageneral trend in "big" films anyway. Increasingly the studios look for the HUGE opening weekend. That way, even if the film sucks they still have most of their cash back before word of mouth can get around...
Oddly films with staying power tend to be, long term, better money makers. STudios don't think long term however.
The same is, of course, true of the record industry. No one is interested in the long term earners anymore - the fast buck is everything. Don't believe me that albums with ongoing appeal aren't worth more?
These days if an album manages to sell 10 million copies before it gets forgotten it's done very well. Back in 1973 Pink Floyd released Dark Side of the Moon. It didn't seel stunningly well, but hovered around in the top 100 album charts. Eventually it left the top 100 album charts in 1986, before bounding back in several weeks later. It has sold 30 million copies and is STILL selling very well.
Similar things could be said about Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, etc. I just don't have numbers on hand.
Jedidiah
As other people have commented elsewhere, this was one reason nroff and TeX were so cool - you wrote a basic template and it was very easy to have a script fill in the fields - then voila postscript ready to go to the printer. I don't use nroff/troff, so I don't know if it has a PDF output these days (though I imagine it does). Certainly TeX does.
I did always wonder why no one made a nice frontend for generating TeX templates etc. for exactly this purpose - let the end users design the templates instead of a TeX guru...
Jedidiah
If all you want to do is get to PDF then LaTeX and pdfLaTex are not a bad method for doing it. Certainly the hyperref package makes producing fully linked PDF documents a breeze, and in pdfLaTex inclusion on PNG graphics is also very easy.
The distinct downside is that ultimately you want to write your own documentclass in TeX/LaTeX for the reports (thus alleviating a lot of the hassle of trying to force a basic LaTeX documentclass to do formatting it wasn't intended to do. This can create very simple to generate and very professional looking output - but it is a bitch to write, and you really want to learn your TeX to do it right. It would be a "write once" deal though if you do it right.
If OpenOffice had a nice easy way to do this sort of thing, so you didn't have to be a TeX guru to set it all up, then certainly it would be great.
Jedidiah
But I don't use office suites. I have plenty of perl scripts to play with, reformat (so to speak - convert articles to slides etc.), and produce LaTeX, which has been a readily available option for years. I'm sure if I end up using StarOffice or OpenOffice.org then I may well be inclined to produce useful scripts for those - in the meantime though I'm quite happy with what I've got.
Jedidiah.
"As we well know, all shareware is subjected to the most stringent of audits by the proprietary software community prior to release."
Sorry, I should have been clear. I wasn't trying to imply that this was something bad about OSS, merely that just because you found some bad OSS doesn't mean all OSS sucks. Just because you found some particularly poor text editor doesn't mean OSS doesn't produce good text editor. Just because you found poor Crypto doesn't mean that OSS sucks at Crypto.
As you point out, I'm sure if we looked at the shareware world we could find plenty of equally shoddy crypto products - in fact I KNOW we can, I've seen some. I've seen some very shoddy payware crypto products.
My point was simply that the existence of bad Crypto products doesn't really mean much of anything.
Jedidiah
I'm pretty sure there are some pretty pathetic, sad window managers out there too. Some of the text editors are rather less than impressive as well. There are all manner of dodgy MP3 managements systems. OSS creates all manner of bad software because ANYONE can code something up and release it.
The security and cryptography field just highlights the problem because there are so many opportunities to do something particularly stupid in those fields. Anyone can write a cryptosystem that they can't break themselves. Unfortunately a lot of people figure if they can't break it, then neither can anyone else...
Jedidiah
While not perfect, New Zealand is at least making some steps in the right direction. The Government is currently (albeit very slowly) looking at restricting the power of software patents. This came after a Canadian company sued a whole bunch of NZ online retailers for patent violations. Apparently they had a patent on automatically calculating shipping and currency conversion. The NZ companies balked and said shipping currency conversion was kind of obvious, especially when most buyers from a NZ online website will be from overseas. They have banded together to fight the legal action, and given that this amounted to a large chunk of NZs online retail operators, they successfully lobbied the government to look into this sort of thing.
As I say, it isn't perfect. The government hasn't DONE anything. But they are at least looking at it - that is, things are at least heading in the right direction for once. New Zealand has also successfully dodged a DMCA look alike so far after heavy public submissions when the government was looking at digital copyright.
Jedidiah
Given that Linux is generally stronger in Europe than the US (where MS pretty much rules all), comments from the likes of Torvalds and Cox will carry more weight than they would in the US.
Then again, hefty campaign donations from rich software firms probably carry a fair amount of weight too...
It should be interesting to see what happens.
Jedidiah
Okay, there's a hole here, that's definitely bad. Still it would be nice if lsh could manage to gain some share of the ssh market. It has worried me for a while that OpenSSH has become the standard, which, unfortunately, creates a monoculture. A monoculture of ssh implementations is as vulnerable to massive infection as a monculture of windows boxes (okay, maybe windows has more holes, but its the massive part I'm concerned with).
If the market on ssh implementations was a little more split, it would be a little more difficult to write a worm that could wreak utter havoc. Repeat after me: Monoculture is bad.
Jedidiah.
This seems like a reasonably creative effort, but then again someone could try coding up something like this I think they overrate the real effectiveness of such a system in the description, but it certainly would be nasty if it actually coordinated its spread as effectively as they claim is possible.
Jedidiah
It was on show in Wellington New Zealand for a few months. I went a couple times. It is a fantastic exhibition, with a huge amunt of the props, costumes and models, as well as a lot of detail on how various CGI things were done. Everything from the shards of Narsil, to orginal design sketches by Alan Lee.
I highly recommend attending if it you get the chance.
Jedidiah
---Networking - can this thing jump onto the company's windows network plug and play or do you have to go learn Samba3?
---Application Compatibility - the company will likely have legacy or windows apps they need to run. Does Sun desktop do anything for them?
---Mail server - I know they are using Gnome, but does Sun have any deal with Novell (current home of Ximian) to let it talk to Exchange?
---Installer - Did he try to install it? If you are going to have to put it on 2000 desktops at a company, I hope that works very very well.
---Distribution - What distribution is this residing on. This could make a huge difference in how well the thing works. Red Hat and dependancy hell? No thanks.
I'm pretty agnostic about this whole deal, but there are some points that can be spoken to a little:
(Networking) givent that the $50 a month covers a Sun support contract, I'm guessing that includes helping you set up any networking difficulties.
(Application Compatability) No idea on this one I'm afriad.
(Mail Server) Once again, I wouldn't know if they have or not, but I'm guessing that they probably have given the ongoing support charge,
(Installer) Once again, welcome to the $50/user/year support cost. I assume that means they come and install it for you, so the quality of the installer isnt an issue.
(Distribution) I had heard that it was based on SuSe. Besides, once again, Sun is providing ongoing support themselves, so the distribution issues are less relevant.
Jedidiah
Results: Did you mean windows?
Frighteningly close to the truth. The top 4 results are: Amazon, eBay, and MSN site which just has the following text about Redhat 9:
Red Hat 9.0 is a boon for those who already use it, but it's too expensive to warrant a switch from Windows. Try SuSE (or the free Red Hat) for a better mix of price and features.
And finally, at number 4 we have "Alternatives to Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP
Learn about the Microsoft alternatives and how to move to them from open source products."
Further down the list you might run into less important linux sites like linux.com, redhat.com etc.
I note that links to SuSe, Redhat, Debian, Mandrake and the Kernel Archives are all in the first 10 results on google, with linux.org taking the top spot.
Hmm, I wonder which search engine I would trust for impartiality.
Jedidah
To be honest, that sort of worm isn't the one I would be worried about. The silent killer is going to be much more nasty, and it's a matter of time before somebody writes one (if they haven't already).
Consider this for a possibility: A worm that just sits quietly on the system. It does nothing obvious that would get it noticed by users. Once a day it finds a random Excel spreadsheet. It opens the spreadsheet and picks a random cell. It alters the value of that cell by 10%.
Lets hope no one is actually stupid or arrogant enough to try crap like that (but given humanity, realistically it's a matter of time)
Jedidiah
Which poses an interesting question - why are there so few complete albums anymore? There are plenty of classic concept albums, from Sgt. Pepper, to the Wall, through to The Downward Spiral. There have been a lot of albums that were a single entity - sure they were broken into seperate tracks, but they needed to be listened to as a whole.
Do people have a sufficiently short attention soan that this concept is unappealing?
Jedidiah
> Nealy is right about execution. Make a profit this quarter. Repeat. That is more important than "vision".
Except there are too many companies that make the mistake of only worrying about the next quarter, and forget about where they'll be standing in 2 or 5 years. That's what happened to a lot of the dot coms. They made a profit for the next quarter because the market was nuts. They lacked any way to make profits for the next few quarters after that - but neglected to put much effort into considering how to do that. Don't underestimate vision - it cna get you a long way.
Jeiddiah
What you need to look at is the FADE algorithm for large graphs - it approximates the effects of distant points by averaging them to a single node, allowing much fatser (makes the big Os more manageable for very large graphs) calculation.
Jedidiah
...if terrorist sites or kiddie porn appear on their network, their CEO and board of directors will be habeas corpused off to Cuba? Or whatever the equivalent thing that New Zealand does to people they don't like.
We believe in very harsh punishments for such things...I believe traditionally we just send them to Australia.
Jedidiah
As much as I like Peter's work, I'd much rather see Alex Proyas or Darren Aronofsky do these. Lets' be honest, they've got more of the right sort of style.
Jedidiah
About 2 years ago the NZ government was taking submissions with regard to changes to copyright law, particularly with regard to digital copyright. A small campaign was mounted here to try and get enough submissions against DMCA style laws here, and I must admit that we were listened to and considered. At this stage any mooted changes haven't made it as far as a bill to be passed, so we don't know exactly what they'll do, but it has looked promising.
In general our government has shown some willingness to be somewhat open minded in considering technology issues, and to actually listen to what real tech people have to say, so hopefully this bill being considered will actually end up being fairly moderate and well considered.
There is still hope.
Jedidiah
here
The joy of this for me is that, in the end it really comes down to a 7 bit exhaust to get started decrypting, and after that it's just a matter of decrypting each intermediary key in turn.
Jedidiah
I felt the need to comment as there is much misinformation floating about here.
Pearse is well known here in NZ, and there has been quite a bit of research into what he did and did not actually achieve.
He certainly did not have a more advanced aircraft that the Wrights. Whether he actually managed any form of flight before the Wrights is somewhat debatable also. Certainly he managed powered (but uncontrolled) flight around the same time as the Wrights. The Wrights flight was significantly more important however, because they managed fully controlled flight, with controlled takeoff and landing. Pearse, at that time, did not manage such things.
Much of the popular literature about Pearse is largely myth making with regard to how well and when he flew - the facts generally point to the fact that he was really quite behind the Wrights.
Which is not to say he doesn't deserve a lot of credit for a remarkable achievement. This is a man who managed to independently (whether he flew after or not, he didn't copy) develop a workable aircraft in the middle of nowhere - back country New Zealand (near Oamaru I believe it was) was not exactly the height of technological advancement at the time.
We need to remember pioneers like Pearse, but we serve them better if we remember them correctly for what they truly achieved rather than for mythical achievements.
Jedidiah
Ah, americans. Any beer that isn't american is good in comparison to american beer. Not to deride Kirin, which is a fine beer, but there are plenty of better beers out there. Monteiths from NZ, VB from Aus, preety much any pilsner from Czechoslavakia, Guines, and the list goes on.
American beer most closely reselbles water.
Jedidiah
It seems we have another distro based around GNU tools plus the other usual suspects. The only main difference I can see here is that it is running on Darwin instead of Linux or (Net|Open|Free)BSD.
It doesn't actually say so on the site, but given the software they do list, it is pretty clearly just running X like everybody else. Not that that is bad thing.
It would be nice if they could make it very Windowmaker/GNUStep centric for nostalgia sake though.
Anyway, it is good to see other kernels making it into new Distro's. It bodes well for the future.
Jedidiah.
Am I one of the few people who considers the
aesthetics of "view/source" to be important?
I love it when I can view the source of a website
and get somethign entirely readable. It's kind of
reassuring - and these days fairly easy using stylesheets.
Admittedly my website isn't the perfect picture
of lovely source, but I'm not exactly a serious
designer. I do make an effort to make it look
nice in the source view anyway. As I say, it's
not exactly that hard.
Jedidiah.