VUPEN is a worthy opponent. The NSA should hack them front, back and center. They should never pat them on the head and give them money.
So, what you are saying is - NSA should do what US government considers 'act of war' (when done to their networks), to a company based in a friendly/allied country?
I also presume US government will extradite these criminals who were breaking all kinds of international (and domestic) laws, and were waging cyber warfare against another sovereign country.
After all, this is what US expects from others, so it would only be nice that they start following what they preach, eh?
United States of Corruption. That's what USA has became. Any 'moral high ground' that US had, on pretty much *any* issue, is simply gone.
It is beyond sad, a country we all looked up to some 20 years ago. Turned into complete shit:(
Is it really news that a spy agency is spying? "oh look at them doing their job!"
It probably wouldn't be news, if NSA was not doing (to countries all over the world) what US governments itself considers "acts of war".
Besides breaking all known computer/hacking laws, NSA and US government have also made amazing breakthrough in means of spreading *corruption* through all spheres of society.
And yet, they somehow dare show up in front of reporters and claim some moral high ground.
If people acted more rationally they wouldn't deny that terrorism is a problem. And no, we don't live in the most fearful society in history. A fundamental error you are making is not being able to discern the difference between willful human action and random accidents.
Hahahaha.
Ok, let's test this.
Are all the homicides in the US also 'random accidents'?
So what if it if the design is inspired by a Sci-Fi TV show? Show me that this would have cost way more than some other design had a non-Star Trek fan been responsible for its acquisition.
"It had been designed by a Hollywood set designer"
No I'm saying having Ferrari make Yugo mini-cars would end up with a bankrupt Ferrari?
Why people has so much trouble following a simple concept is beyond me, but for those that seem to have trouble grasping the concept (which from the replies seems to be the majority) I'll spell it out....in a race to the bottom only the tightest ships will survive those that can pinch the most pennies, lower the material costs down to the absolute minimum, shave every penny and pinch it until it screams...remember Dell? Remember why they became the #1 PC maker? Because they were only making $8 a sale that's why!
What everyone seems to have trouble grasping is that Nokia had too many upfront costs, too much overhead to compete in a sharktank like a race to the bottom, they would have died just as many OEMs died in the PC Price Wars, inability to shave costs equals dead company. They have a factory in Europe, one of the most worker friendly places on the planet, no fucking way that factory can compete with a place in China whipping off phones while paying workers less than $5 USD a day, they had a large R&D that frankly wasn't delivering the D part of that, again not gonna be able to compete with the likes of LG and Huawei who have their businesses striped down as a ricer racer, its just not possible.
But of course I'll be marked down for daring to point out the reality of the market, because I refuse to guzzle the koolaid and pretend that RMS farts rainbows and anything that the Linux kernel touches is magically a hit, News Flash...its not. Out of the dozen companies making Android phones? Only ONE is making consistent profits, the rest? They are making money alright, but their profits are less than what Nokia was making on dumbphones in 2011, they just aren't making the kind of bank Nokia would require to survive, the ONLY company making the kind of green a top heavy company like Nokia would require to keep the stock from continuing its free fall? Samsung. Again better companies have tried to beat Samsung, companies that have a hell of a lot more experience, advertising budgets, and brand recognition than Nokia, and they have failed. Nokia would have been curbstomped.
Frankly its amazing how few here can even understand markets, whether its the FOSS blinders or magical thinking? Fuck if I know, you act like that because a company is making profits that means Nokia could make enough to thrive...wrong,for the same reason that Compaq and Maxtor ended up being bought out during the price wars by companies that ran leaner and meaner. if you have an expensive to run company a race to the bottom is corporate suicide. The only way Nokia would have made bank in Android is to close up shop and move to Asia so they could compete with LG and Huawei, but that would have cost billions they just did not have.
Like it or not Nokia was fucked and the Android fairy wouldn't have stopped the freefall, it would have accelerated it. The best thing would have been to buy WebOS back in 08, they didn't do that. By the time the board got its head out of its ass they were too far behind, too bloated, too toxic, they were fucked.
You are beyond silly.
Nokia *was* premium brand. They wouldn't be competing with bottom of the barrel if they went with Android, they'd be competing with Galaxy S and iPhone models. And people would be buying them. You think Lumia phones with Android wouldn't be nice, but would be competing with 50$ shitty Chinese devices? Sure thing chief.
Nokia had a loyal customer base. Until they sold out to Microsoft.
Are you trying to claim that the FBI pushed child porn to people that weren't looking for it? Or are you complaining that they seized an existing child porn distribution network and ran a sting against people that came looking for it?
You are beyond naive if you seriously belive these 'raids' have anything to do with child porn (of their case about children).
US said they consider cyber-attacks to be an act of war, so I am wondering when will US Government clarify who gave them authorization to declare war on so many countries, including 'allies'.
Because what NSA has been doing for years were acts of war, according to US Government.
As well as reviewing the standards themselves, I hope someone is reviewing the processes which allowed these weaknesses to get into the standards.
Weaknesses?
It is simple. Weakness was 'trust'.
I did want to believe that NSA wouldn't be such cunts as to completely ruin the internet and open research by abusing the trust people gave them. I gave them my trust as well.
They basically destroyed the Internet as we knew it, because much of it was based on trust.
Welcome to collection of commercial networks interconnected for adveritising and content consuming purposes.
Just because the NSA toughened some standards in the 1970s doesn't mean they are good guys now. After all, many familiar with the inner workings of the agency have said that the mood there changed greatly after 9/11 to "privacy be damned", and the Snowden documents leaked the other day admit right now that the NSA has inserted backdoors into cryptosystems used by the general public.
They were "good guys"? People have short memories. NSA have been involved in this type of shit for a long time (in physical world).
For many years, I just felt that something was wrong, and would do "silly things" (I was an admin, whoops) like setup VPN tunnel, then require everyone to use SSL and client certs to access a service. So people would laugh at usage of VPN + SSL (and then certs on top of it) and ridicule it.
Spent more than a decade trying to explain to *technical* people why self-signed certs are much more secure than 'commercial' certs, and I could never understand why people couldn't understand what I am saying. Well now I know, they simply couldn't beleive any government would do things we're seeing done.
Been laughed at quite few times, but I can tell you that noone is laughing right now.
And now I finally know that I am not a fucking lunatic.
I would like our current laws to be enforced. If the NSA is violating the law, those responsible should be prosecuted. If they aren't enforced, then there is literally no point in creating new laws.
Hahaha. You are so naive.
Just look what happened In NZ. Spies have been found guilty of breaking laws, but police won't lift a finger, because of missing "criminal intent".
the NSA has done over a 100,000,000 million legal searches. From all the leaked records, 22,000 are questionable. Those 22,000 lie everywhere between needing a judicial interpretation, to blatant breech. The leaks also show NSA's number one whistle blower to the courts is the NSA. They report them and correct them.
Go organize a protest about Tiananmen Square and find out.
You sould as if you beleive organizing a protest anywhere makes any difference to anything.
Well, it does make a difference actually, people seem to think they are somehow 'free' because they can organize a protest that noone cares about. Same like people think they are free because they get to 'vote'.
Alibaba is well named, although it leads a group of far more than just forty thieves. Anyone tempted to deal with Aliexpress (you only learn the Alibaba joke after you make the mistake) should take the time to search for them on Reseller Ratings.
I've placed more than 20 orders in last 4 months, via AliExpress, and have received all of them, in timely manner and all items were correct and working. Not a single problem. Well, there was 1 order that got delayed, but seller contacted me and notified me about it and asked me if I don't mind waiting few days.
Track record is key at this juncture. The rebels can say anything atrocious they want about Assad's supporters/regime and it will seem plausible. I have no significant evidence one way or the other, but at this point, the rebels' claims seem more credible than the denials.
Erm, you got it wrong, though.
Rebels have claimed all kinds of shit in recent months/years, which turned out to be nonsense, so no matter what they say now barely anyone will believe/care.
I wonder when people will realize that truth does not matter, and never did.
US meddling in mid-east affairs is a guaranteed disaster for the US.
Help one tribe, and the opposing tribe will hate you forever. Then the tribe you help will soon hate you also. Bottom line: Muslims must hate infidels, it is a key part of their religion.
No matter who the US helps, the US involvement will be called an "invasion." The US will be accused of using the US military to steal mid-east oil. It happens every time.
I have to ask you a honest question.
Do you seriuosly believe that what US was doing in middle east can be considered 'helping'?
Helped who, exactly? Major military contractors/industry? Local thugs?
Of course, reason why people in Iraq, for example, must hate US is because of their religion.
A bank robber who gets killed during the robbery sacrifices a lot, he lost his life and his future. Does that automatically make the bank robber a Patriot? Of course not.
If you are comparing a bank robber to Edward Snowden in talk about 'patriotism', I feel really sad for you.
As an Android and iOS developer, it is tough to support all possible screen sizes, aspect ratios, hardware specs and versions of Android. Sometimes not having a newer version of Android(>= 4.0) you miss a lot of features that people come to expect and your code is riddle with backwards compatibility stuff just to support Gingerbread, or worse(ie: Donut).
Of course, it doesn't help that Google just made the Action Bar part of the backwards compatibility package, after all of this time not supporting it and saying just use the Sherlock library, which has it's own share of complications and headaches.
With videos it's even harder, my new phone only records in *.3gp files(for video, Razr Maxx HD), which means you have to have more transcoding on the backend to make it available to others.
And then you have the Note and Note 2 which are just mini-tablets and not really phone sized anymore. And the lack of support in Android(which iOS has btw) to figure out if you are on a phone or not, really hurts the user experience.
The cost is great, and the hassle is hard to justify, so with a fixed budget I am not surprised they aren't developing for it just yet.
And think even with the fragmentation going on the iOS land, they still only have like 5 screen sizes to worry about (in the tablet area), so you can really tweak the user-experience on each version of the iPad/iPad mini to make the most of the real estate and hardware. Plus they all share a common base with most of the features already there, so it makes it easier to program for, and less backwards-compatibility stuff in your code to mess with and support
And yet, there are plenty of applications that work find on all possible devices.
There are people who spend most of their work time complaining and thinking why something can not be done, or why it is hard.
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VUPEN is a worthy opponent. The NSA should hack them front, back and center. They should never pat them on the head and give them money.
So, what you are saying is - NSA should do what US government considers 'act of war' (when done to their networks), to a company based in a friendly/allied country?
I am sure noone will have problem with that.
250 mil per year buys you a lot of backdoors.
I also presume US government will extradite these criminals who were breaking all kinds of international (and domestic) laws, and were waging cyber warfare against another sovereign country.
After all, this is what US expects from others, so it would only be nice that they start following what they preach, eh?
United States of Corruption. That's what USA has became. Any 'moral high ground' that US had, on pretty much *any* issue, is simply gone.
It is beyond sad, a country we all looked up to some 20 years ago. Turned into complete shit :(
Unlike the other recent revelations, this is actually the NSA's job.
What is?
Performing actions that US govt sees as 'acts of war', against other, *allied*, country?
Great job.
Is it really news that a spy agency is spying? "oh look at them doing their job!"
It probably wouldn't be news, if NSA was not doing (to countries all over the world) what US governments itself considers "acts of war".
Besides breaking all known computer/hacking laws, NSA and US government have also made amazing breakthrough in means of spreading *corruption* through all spheres of society.
And yet, they somehow dare show up in front of reporters and claim some moral high ground.
If people acted more rationally they wouldn't deny that terrorism is a problem. And no, we don't live in the most fearful society in history. A fundamental error you are making is not being able to discern the difference between willful human action and random accidents.
Hahahaha.
Ok, let's test this.
Are all the homicides in the US also 'random accidents'?
So what if it if the design is inspired by a Sci-Fi TV show? Show me that this would have cost way more than some other design had a non-Star Trek fan been responsible for its acquisition.
"It had been designed by a Hollywood set designer"
Would you like more clues?
No I'm saying having Ferrari make Yugo mini-cars would end up with a bankrupt Ferrari?
Why people has so much trouble following a simple concept is beyond me, but for those that seem to have trouble grasping the concept (which from the replies seems to be the majority) I'll spell it out....in a race to the bottom only the tightest ships will survive those that can pinch the most pennies, lower the material costs down to the absolute minimum, shave every penny and pinch it until it screams...remember Dell? Remember why they became the #1 PC maker? Because they were only making $8 a sale that's why!
What everyone seems to have trouble grasping is that Nokia had too many upfront costs, too much overhead to compete in a sharktank like a race to the bottom, they would have died just as many OEMs died in the PC Price Wars, inability to shave costs equals dead company. They have a factory in Europe, one of the most worker friendly places on the planet, no fucking way that factory can compete with a place in China whipping off phones while paying workers less than $5 USD a day, they had a large R&D that frankly wasn't delivering the D part of that, again not gonna be able to compete with the likes of LG and Huawei who have their businesses striped down as a ricer racer, its just not possible.
But of course I'll be marked down for daring to point out the reality of the market, because I refuse to guzzle the koolaid and pretend that RMS farts rainbows and anything that the Linux kernel touches is magically a hit, News Flash...its not. Out of the dozen companies making Android phones? Only ONE is making consistent profits, the rest? They are making money alright, but their profits are less than what Nokia was making on dumbphones in 2011, they just aren't making the kind of bank Nokia would require to survive, the ONLY company making the kind of green a top heavy company like Nokia would require to keep the stock from continuing its free fall? Samsung. Again better companies have tried to beat Samsung, companies that have a hell of a lot more experience, advertising budgets, and brand recognition than Nokia, and they have failed. Nokia would have been curbstomped.
Frankly its amazing how few here can even understand markets, whether its the FOSS blinders or magical thinking? Fuck if I know, you act like that because a company is making profits that means Nokia could make enough to thrive...wrong,for the same reason that Compaq and Maxtor ended up being bought out during the price wars by companies that ran leaner and meaner. if you have an expensive to run company a race to the bottom is corporate suicide. The only way Nokia would have made bank in Android is to close up shop and move to Asia so they could compete with LG and Huawei, but that would have cost billions they just did not have.
Like it or not Nokia was fucked and the Android fairy wouldn't have stopped the freefall, it would have accelerated it. The best thing would have been to buy WebOS back in 08, they didn't do that. By the time the board got its head out of its ass they were too far behind, too bloated, too toxic, they were fucked.
You are beyond silly.
Nokia *was* premium brand. They wouldn't be competing with bottom of the barrel if they went with Android, they'd be competing with Galaxy S and iPhone models. And people would be buying them. You think Lumia phones with Android wouldn't be nice, but would be competing with 50$ shitty Chinese devices? Sure thing chief.
Nokia had a loyal customer base. Until they sold out to Microsoft.
Are you trying to claim that the FBI pushed child porn to people that weren't looking for it? Or are you complaining that they seized an existing child porn distribution network and ran a sting against people that came looking for it?
You are beyond naive if you seriously belive these 'raids' have anything to do with child porn (of their case about children).
Very few people seem to remember that Samsung announced opening a research center in Finland, few months ago.
People laughed at the time, but hopefully these funny guys now understand why Samsung did it.
They really played it smart :)
US said they consider cyber-attacks to be an act of war, so I am wondering when will US Government clarify who gave them authorization to declare war on so many countries, including 'allies'.
Because what NSA has been doing for years were acts of war, according to US Government.
As well as reviewing the standards themselves, I hope someone is reviewing the processes which allowed these weaknesses to get into the standards.
Weaknesses?
It is simple. Weakness was 'trust'.
I did want to believe that NSA wouldn't be such cunts as to completely ruin the internet and open research by abusing the trust people gave them. I gave them my trust as well.
They basically destroyed the Internet as we knew it, because much of it was based on trust.
Welcome to collection of commercial networks interconnected for adveritising and content consuming purposes.
Because that's pretty much what's left of it.
Just because the NSA toughened some standards in the 1970s doesn't mean they are good guys now. After all, many familiar with the inner workings of the agency have said that the mood there changed greatly after 9/11 to "privacy be damned", and the Snowden documents leaked the other day admit right now that the NSA has inserted backdoors into cryptosystems used by the general public.
They were "good guys"? People have short memories. NSA have been involved in this type of shit for a long time (in physical world).
http://cryptome.org/jya/nsa-sun.htm
..."backdoor":
bsd.slashdot.org/story/10/12/15/004235/fbi-alleged-to-have-backdoored-openbsds-ipsec-stack
Many people laughed at this at the time.
Guess they're not laughing now.
For many years, I just felt that something was wrong, and would do "silly things" (I was an admin, whoops) like setup VPN tunnel, then require everyone to use SSL and client certs to access a service. So people would laugh at usage of VPN + SSL (and then certs on top of it) and ridicule it.
Spent more than a decade trying to explain to *technical* people why self-signed certs are much more secure than 'commercial' certs, and I could never understand why people couldn't understand what I am saying. Well now I know, they simply couldn't beleive any government would do things we're seeing done.
Been laughed at quite few times, but I can tell you that noone is laughing right now.
And now I finally know that I am not a fucking lunatic.
Thank you Edward Snowden.
I would like our current laws to be enforced. If the NSA is violating the law, those responsible should be prosecuted. If they aren't enforced, then there is literally no point in creating new laws.
Hahaha. You are so naive.
Just look what happened In NZ. Spies have been found guilty of breaking laws, but police won't lift a finger, because of missing "criminal intent".
They are all, literally, laughing at us.
the NSA has done over a 100,000,000 million legal searches.
From all the leaked records, 22,000 are questionable. Those 22,000 lie everywhere between needing a judicial interpretation, to blatant breech.
The leaks also show NSA's number one whistle blower to the courts is the NSA. They report them and correct them.
100,000,000. "Legal".
Just think about it.
Go organize a protest about Tiananmen Square and find out.
You sould as if you beleive organizing a protest anywhere makes any difference to anything.
Well, it does make a difference actually, people seem to think they are somehow 'free' because they can organize a protest that noone cares about. Same like people think they are free because they get to 'vote'.
Cute.
Alibaba is well named, although it leads a group of far more than just forty thieves. Anyone tempted to deal with Aliexpress (you only learn the Alibaba joke after you make the mistake) should take the time to search for them on Reseller Ratings.
I've placed more than 20 orders in last 4 months, via AliExpress, and have received all of them, in timely manner and all items were correct and working. Not a single problem. Well, there was 1 order that got delayed, but seller contacted me and notified me about it and asked me if I don't mind waiting few days.
What, exactly, is it I am supposed to 'learn'?
Ok, so US considers attacks on its network 'act of war', but it has no problems conducting acts of war itself, 24/7?
Interesting.
Say again, who are the terrorists we should be afraid of?
Track record is key at this juncture. The rebels can say anything atrocious they want about Assad's supporters/regime and it will seem plausible. I have no significant evidence one way or the other, but at this point, the rebels' claims seem more credible than the denials.
Erm, you got it wrong, though.
Rebels have claimed all kinds of shit in recent months/years, which turned out to be nonsense, so no matter what they say now barely anyone will believe/care.
I wonder when people will realize that truth does not matter, and never did.
US meddling in mid-east affairs is a guaranteed disaster for the US.
Help one tribe, and the opposing tribe will hate you forever. Then the tribe you help will soon hate you also. Bottom line: Muslims must hate infidels, it is a key part of their religion.
No matter who the US helps, the US involvement will be called an "invasion." The US will be accused of using the US military to steal mid-east oil. It happens every time.
I have to ask you a honest question.
Do you seriuosly believe that what US was doing in middle east can be considered 'helping'?
Helped who, exactly? Major military contractors/industry? Local thugs?
Of course, reason why people in Iraq, for example, must hate US is because of their religion.
Not because what US military has done.
You are so silly.
A bank robber who gets killed during the robbery sacrifices a lot, he lost his life and his future. Does that automatically make the bank robber a Patriot? Of course not.
If you are comparing a bank robber to Edward Snowden in talk about 'patriotism', I feel really sad for you.
am i supposed to be surprised that it actually works? cause a piracy filter blocking a site focused on torrents isn't a huge supervise
What exactly is a "site focused on torrents", exactly?
Do you even know what you are talking about, or you are working as a guy operating filter in Sky?
As an Android and iOS developer, it is tough to support all possible screen sizes, aspect ratios, hardware specs and versions of Android. Sometimes not having a newer version of Android(>= 4.0) you miss a lot of features that people come to expect and your code is riddle with backwards compatibility stuff just to support Gingerbread, or worse(ie: Donut).
Of course, it doesn't help that Google just made the Action Bar part of the backwards compatibility package, after all of this time not supporting it and saying just use the Sherlock library, which has it's own share of complications and headaches.
With videos it's even harder, my new phone only records in *.3gp files(for video, Razr Maxx HD), which means you have to have more transcoding on the backend to make it available to others.
And then you have the Note and Note 2 which are just mini-tablets and not really phone sized anymore. And the lack of support in Android(which iOS has btw) to figure out if you are on a phone or not, really hurts the user experience.
The cost is great, and the hassle is hard to justify, so with a fixed budget I am not surprised they aren't developing for it just yet.
And think even with the fragmentation going on the iOS land, they still only have like 5 screen sizes to worry about (in the tablet area), so you can really tweak the user-experience on each version of the iPad/iPad mini to make the most of the real estate and hardware. Plus they all share a common base with most of the features already there, so it makes it easier to program for, and less backwards-compatibility stuff in your code to mess with and support
And yet, there are plenty of applications that work find on all possible devices.
There are people who spend most of their work time complaining and thinking why something can not be done, or why it is hard.
Then there are those who do it.