The SE/30 was a IIcx in an SE case, the ‘x’ designating 68030. The Mac II was a 68020. (If they had stuck to their naming conventions, it would have been called the Mac SEx.)
I just had a similar discussion with my girlfriend this past weekend. She found some valuable information on Wikipedia for a paper she’s writing on Chinese culture. I told her she should use that as a springboard: that Wikipedia could provide her the facts and details she needs, and that she should then find independent citable sources for each individual facts. I told her that I was sure it couldn’t be cited because the information there is simply too fluid and couldn’t be counted on to remain unchanged over time. She checked with her professor who wasn’t terribly familiar with the details, but had at least heard of it. He looked into the matter and told her that it was perfectly acceptable as long as the citations were up to MLA standards. I told her that her professor would turn out to be wrong in the long run (yeah, modesty is part of my charm, why do you ask?).
So I guess I agree with the story submittor (askor?) that Wikipedia rocks, but that their model simply doesn’t lend itself the the level of credibility needed for that sort of use. It’s great, and in many ways a more valuable resource than Google, and one hell of a social experiment. But at the end of the day, you simply don’t know if any given fact was contributed by a Princeton research librarian or Karl Rove.
Look for a Freethought group in your area. Meetup.com is a good starting point, but far from the only one. We meet one Sunday morning a month to worship coffee beans and one Wednesday evening each month for a more casual get-together.
But frankly, I’m assuming this will be the death of the Gnutella network, as from what I’ve seen, 95%+ of the clients are some form of LimeWire. Sure, some will grab another client, but I think most will move to other networks, which will greatly reduce the utility of Gnutella. I really don’t know dick about the others, guess it’s time I learned.
I help a friend of mine with his band’s music. So far I’ve run into DVDs of their performance that neither of us could rip the MPEG from, and now it looks like it may be tough to share his music on LimeWire, even though he likes the idea (as a LimeWire user himself) and I have explicit permission, he’s not gonna wanna release his entire album under a CC license (although he is considering it for a few tracks with the hope of getting them used in independent films).
I guess LimeWire feels they have no choice due to the legal climate these days, but they must know it can only end badly. Oh well.
In a comment I made a few minutes ago, I realized after seeing the preview that I’d forgotten to type ’ in place of an apostrophe. Seems that something in slashcode had at least attempted to rectify my mistake, even if it wasn’t entirely successful.
Cool!
Signed,
One of approximately eleven people here who think the recent changes are a good thing.
Yeah, but that was back before we started declaring War on vague concepts. Which, now that I think about it, was around the same time we stopped declaring War on countries we went to war with. Hmm.
The SE/30 was a IIcx in an SE case, the ‘x’ designating 68030. The Mac II was a 68020. (If they had stuck to their naming conventions, it would have been called the Mac SEx.)
Some good stuff ya got there.
Of course, one may raise the question: what if I edit wikipedia to support my thesis all the way and cite it?
Wikipedia has many technical safeguards in place to prevent such behavior. Apparently they drop all connections from undisclosed locations.
I just had a similar discussion with my girlfriend this past weekend. She found some valuable information on Wikipedia for a paper she’s writing on Chinese culture. I told her she should use that as a springboard: that Wikipedia could provide her the facts and details she needs, and that she should then find independent citable sources for each individual facts. I told her that I was sure it couldn’t be cited because the information there is simply too fluid and couldn’t be counted on to remain unchanged over time. She checked with her professor who wasn’t terribly familiar with the details, but had at least heard of it. He looked into the matter and told her that it was perfectly acceptable as long as the citations were up to MLA standards. I told her that her professor would turn out to be wrong in the long run (yeah, modesty is part of my charm, why do you ask?).
So I guess I agree with the story submittor (askor?) that Wikipedia rocks, but that their model simply doesn’t lend itself the the level of credibility needed for that sort of use. It’s great, and in many ways a more valuable resource than Google, and one hell of a social experiment. But at the end of the day, you simply don’t know if any given fact was contributed by a Princeton research librarian or Karl Rove.
Those guys rock. My girlfriend turned me onto them a few months ago. That and “Title of the Song” just absolutely slay me.
Baaaaaaaaaaaad.
yet another variant:
“The trouble with being poor is that it takes up so damn much of your time.”
I'm an atheist myself, so I can't play
Look for a Freethought group in your area. Meetup.com is a good starting point, but far from the only one. We meet one Sunday morning a month to worship coffee beans and one Wednesday evening each month for a more casual get-together.
except amongst the uptime-is-a-measure-of-masculinity crowd
Jeez, you don’t have to look directly at me when you say that, do you?
i've used macs since I was 8 (1991) and i've never had a virus on any of them
I think I saw an nVir infection, and maybe Scores as well. That was back in, umm, I think ’89 or so.
Leaving aside the merits of your case, do you really expect any sympathy to your cause from this community?
Okay guys, let him have it.
*grabs marshmallows and a long, pointy stick*
It’s supposed to read “Google and NSA to Collaborate on Technology.”
It’s supposed to read “Google Forms Partnership with NSA.”
Is anyone else getting tired of watching Slashdot chase Google's tail?
Umm, that’s not a tail.
And that word was “Googol.”
Which gives them something in common with the Macintosh: both misspelled (intentionally or otherwise) the thing that inspired their names.
(posting a link explaining where the Mac got it’s name is left as a +4, Informative exercise for the reader.
I know a good voice coach if you’re really that worried.
Don’t sweat it. Check out his posting history. Trying to rationally debate with him is kinda like pissing in the corner of a round room.
Play nice, kids.
Don’t make me turn this website around.
True.
But frankly, I’m assuming this will be the death of the Gnutella network, as from what I’ve seen, 95%+ of the clients are some form of LimeWire. Sure, some will grab another client, but I think most will move to other networks, which will greatly reduce the utility of Gnutella. I really don’t know dick about the others, guess it’s time I learned.
Hopefully I’m wrong though.
I help a friend of mine with his band’s music. So far I’ve run into DVDs of their performance that neither of us could rip the MPEG from, and now it looks like it may be tough to share his music on LimeWire, even though he likes the idea (as a LimeWire user himself) and I have explicit permission, he’s not gonna wanna release his entire album under a CC license (although he is considering it for a few tracks with the hope of getting them used in independent films).
I guess LimeWire feels they have no choice due to the legal climate these days, but they must know it can only end badly. Oh well.
In a comment I made a few minutes ago, I realized after seeing the preview that I’d forgotten to type ’ in place of an apostrophe. Seems that something in slashcode had at least attempted to rectify my mistake, even if it wasn’t entirely successful.
Cool!
Signed,
One of approximately eleven people here who think the recent changes are a good thing.
Sorry; I failed to notice that we’d hit the depth limit to slashdot thread indenting. Thought your comment had no replies. Yay for visual cues!
Are you saying bandwidth is free?
It is for them. That comes out of Apple’s cut. The ~$0.70 that the record company gets is entirely devoid of any sort of per-unit cost.
Yeah, but that was back before we started declaring War on vague concepts. Which, now that I think about it, was around the same time we stopped declaring War on countries we went to war with. Hmm.
Guess I’ve had some medieval girlfriends, then.