Good reading skills. If you look closely you'll see the qualifier "largely" in front of "created by white males." I did this for the obviously sexist and racist reason of being succinct while acknowledging that they were not the ONLY ones involved. It was my goal to make my point without actually having to list every single human being who has had a hand in the CS field in the last 100 or whatever years just to satisfy the literalists.
The problem is this: everywhere "non-minority" males compete and excel, they are accused of bias and the problem is resolved with constraints that increasingly cripple competitive males until whatever field the social crusaders are destroying looks enough like their paintings.
But there's a flip side to this as well, individuals who may have no real interest in a particular field are being herded into them at the prodding of these social crusaders. How is it any better for society to tell a female or a minority, "We don't like the field you chose so choose again and make sure you choose the one WE want you to be in." What sort of bias does that represent? If a person chooses not to take a choice based on a perception of bias in that choice, *AT THE LEAST* they have had an opportunity to exercise a choice. In the social crusader's paradigm, that person at the worst HAS NO CHOICE and at best can make another choice and endure potential public shaming. There are a plethora of articles out there of women being shamed for making choices in their own interest that do not hew closely enough to preferences of the dominating social crusader class.
"But the thing is, CollegeBoard AP CS exam records indicate that no Wyoming students at all took an AP CS exam (xls) in 2013, and only a total of 103 Utah students (xls) had reported scores. Let's not forget about the girls and underrepresented minorities, but since AP CS Exam Stats are being spun as a measure of CS education participation (pdf) and equity, let's not forget that pretty much everyone has been underrepresented if we look at the big AP CS picture."
That's the point. They don't care about "non-minority" males. PERIOD. Their only concern are the aforementioned "minority" groups.
The interesting thing is that in a field largely created by white males, the "new" white male beneficiaries of all who came before them now want to declare ownership of the field and decide who should and shouldn't have access to its rewards. Pretty grotesque, don'tcha think?
Classic bureaucracy. Now we need protectors to protect the protectors. The question is who will protect the protectors hired to protect the protectors? It sounds to me as though those protectors will need protection at some point since one guard with a gun isn't much protection. Perhaps they'll need something with more clout such as a Department of Homeland Security Security which will have the necessary resources to provide security to Homeland Security.
"While I'm not saying SA isn't a misogynistic culture, you are not factually correct on some points."
LOL... patriarchy not a strong enough world anymore? Now anything where males are in the majority is just misogynistic?
And why exactly does it have to be fair to women? Is Selective Service fair to men in this country? Are the alimony and child custody laws fair to men in this country? Even laws recently created in the age of "feminist enlightenment" are nt fair to men. VAWA anyone? IMBRA? "Preponderance of evidence?"
There is nothing that irritates me more than the legions of self-righteous glass house residents in this counry looking down their noses at how other do things as if we're so much better. There are crimes against people that happen in this country that would make the citizens of other countries vomit in disgust. Yet here we are telling others how they should do it. Hypocrisy. The new American export.
Perhaps you should look into the numbers of female accusations and testimonies that turn out to be false in western courts. Perhaps the two women rule is to counter the fact that they seem to take a loose view of the definition of the word "truth."
Western women have more rights and privileges than western males. Name me one right or privilege that men have in the west that women do not also have.
Why are they barbarians - because they have rules regarding what they find socially offensive? In this country a 15 year old boy was driven to suicide after being threatened with jail time and inclusion on the sex offender registry after he was caught streaking at a football game. Are we any less barbaric then? Homeless people caught taking a leak are added to sex offender registries regularly. Teens having consensual sex are added as well. And again, *they* are the barbarians?
And I don't buy the fact that they abuse women on any scale greater than anywhere else. If that was the case, I think you'd see lots of women expatriating or seeking refugee status in other countries. We don't though. Do we? Funding terrorism? As opposed to the USA the essentially funded, trained and armed the terrorism we are fighting via Osama Bin Ladin's Al-Qaeda in the 90s? Who was the leader of the free world that IMMEDIATELY went to the "solution" of bombing Syria and adding more bodies to the death count as a means of punishing Syria for adding more bodies to the death count. Which first world country is developing a reputation for having extremely violent police force who will shoot first and ask questions later?
So, why would we tolerate their shit? Mostly because we force the rest of the world to tolerate ours. Unless of course, you enjoy living hypocritically. Let's clean up our own house before we comment on the condition of someone elses.
"Are you telling me if they had peer reviewed studies proving these drugs improved your health or extended your useful life you would not take them?"
Ah yes, the ultimate offer that cannot be refused.
HIPAA is getting in Google's way. They can't just "take" people's health information the same as they do general user data. So, in order to acquire what migh actually be considered "private" data, they have chosen to be a health care provider which then gives them direct access to that normally off limits data.
"If the joke were rephrased to show the idiocy of males in technology, then it'd be different."
Oh you mean like all the jokes about men being unable to take care of babies, or children? Jokes about men being "nerds" and "dorks"? About being "commitment-phobes"? Jokes about men not "manning up"? Jokes about men being socially or fashionably inept? Jokes about men buying fast cars because of their small penises? Jokes about men being domestic buffoons in the family?
Or how about all the feminist jokes about "all men" being rapists or abusers or oppressors?
It seems to me that men have been taking jokes for a long long time. Equally, it seems to me that it is YOU who cannot take a joke which must make it really hard for you to live with yourself.
Wow, look who takes themselves too seriously. Honestly, the ones that take the greatest offense are the ones that are the most insecure and put their entire lives into proving a point. Joking this way IS ok, because it's a joke. Like your coding skills and your self-righteous indignation.
I have asthma. Now you know. From this point on, using a fossil fuel burning vehicle or a coal burning plant for your electricity makes you liable for my illness. Continued use of these means shall be construed as negligence and criminal indifference to my rights and health.
So Google is now happily following the path of embrace and extend that Microsoft blazed to near irrelevance. Good job Google. Nothing says success like brilliant minds stifled by greed and control issues.
Any comment in the public sphere that can have the effect of making a rape victim "relive" the event. So basically, anything that can have the effect of reminding a rape victim they were raped is now a censorable "offense." Basically, as feminists like to USE situations to leverage their agenda, they are using this as an excuse to violate freedom of speech. Expect to see this strategy expanded and used more often as people begin to resist feminist hegemony.
From Violet Blue's blog:
"I found out a few hours later that I had been targeted by a feminist organization, The Ada Initiative. I learned that the woman who smiled at me while talking to the BSides SF organizer was Valerie Aurora, from the Ada Initiative.
I also learned that what happened with my talk wasn’t a case where someone who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time as a survivor of sexual trauma or abuse, which is how it was presented to me. Instead, it was an organization that had planned to get my talk removed. I wonder, if I had offered to omit the section about GHB from my talk, which they did not know about, would the talk have been permitted by these people and the threat of problems for the organization lifted? "
Bar Rafaeli should be rejected on the grounds that she is a horrible person. She avoided her military service and then agreed to do ads convincing others to join the Israeli military all while saying that. "Celebrities have different agendas." Someone like that is a despicable creature regardless of the wrapper.
" U.S. banks and utilities have already been hit.'"" I knew there was an up side to having no savings and owing shitloads of money to the utilities. Take that prudent financial management!
Just a comment about white privilege. There is a constant argument over whether it exists. I say, PRIVILEGE exists. Perhaps whites have taken all of it but which whites? We absolutely have to get out from under this ALL or NONE mentality. Is there "white privilege" in China? Is there "white privilege" in the middle east? No, why? Because there is a whole different demographic that holds the privilege in those societies. Yes, I get annoyed when I hear white privilege being bandied about as if EVERY cracker like me has it. BUT, I get just as annoyed when I hear, "every black is..." or "every (insert demographic here) is..." I find the stereotyping on ALL SIDES to be short-sighted, disingenuous and frankly, disgusting. It GUARANTEES that as a species, human beings will NEVER get past this point.
In areas where males and females compete in separate tracks, female standards are ALWAYS lower than male standards - for example sports, the military, emergency response. In areas where the two are forced onto the same field (for example - jobs, education), the standard for EVERYONE is lowered or changed to suit the weakest performer. In practice, this results in a situation akin to a male runner being forced to carry extra weight to slow him down to the female standard.
Perhaps this results in a nice tidy "equality" of outcome but it surely costs the person who is hamstrung to the lower standard. This is what you see in schools. Schools have been re-engineered to a standard that fits females far better than males. The fact that we actually DRUG our male children with things like Ritalin just to get them to sit through a school day should be indicative of a serious problem. Most males sleep their way through K12 because they can ) and increasingly in university as well). Ask a world class male runner to walk a course to make it fair to the women and see how long he lasts before he drops out from disgust. In education and in the work force, males are dropping out. Success at the male pace and level is absolutely hamstrung in this society.
So where does a male who can't use his natural strengths to achieve accomplishment go? To the last great male space: the couch and the XBox. Where are our males right now? On the couch with the XBox. We have even had numerous social commentaries on this VERY FACT (while of course completely sidestepping the TRUE reason).
This study is a joke. All it does is identify that males are bored performing to the female standard. Big surprise.
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Good reading skills. If you look closely you'll see the qualifier "largely" in front of "created by white males." I did this for the obviously sexist and racist reason of being succinct while acknowledging that they were not the ONLY ones involved. It was my goal to make my point without actually having to list every single human being who has had a hand in the CS field in the last 100 or whatever years just to satisfy the literalists.
But there's a flip side to this as well, individuals who may have no real interest in a particular field are being herded into them at the prodding of these social crusaders. How is it any better for society to tell a female or a minority, "We don't like the field you chose so choose again and make sure you choose the one WE want you to be in." What sort of bias does that represent? If a person chooses not to take a choice based on a perception of bias in that choice, *AT THE LEAST* they have had an opportunity to exercise a choice. In the social crusader's paradigm, that person at the worst HAS NO CHOICE and at best can make another choice and endure potential public shaming. There are a plethora of articles out there of women being shamed for making choices in their own interest that do not hew closely enough to preferences of the dominating social crusader class.
That's the point. They don't care about "non-minority" males. PERIOD. Their only concern are the aforementioned "minority" groups.
The interesting thing is that in a field largely created by white males, the "new" white male beneficiaries of all who came before them now want to declare ownership of the field and decide who should and shouldn't have access to its rewards. Pretty grotesque, don'tcha think?
the government wastes three decades obsessed with studying the effects of cow farts on global warming.
Reefer madness for the 3d printer age.
Classic bureaucracy. Now we need protectors to protect the protectors. The question is who will protect the protectors hired to protect the protectors? It sounds to me as though those protectors will need protection at some point since one guard with a gun isn't much protection. Perhaps they'll need something with more clout such as a Department of Homeland Security Security which will have the necessary resources to provide security to Homeland Security.
"While I'm not saying SA isn't a misogynistic culture, you are not factually correct on some points." LOL... patriarchy not a strong enough world anymore? Now anything where males are in the majority is just misogynistic?
And why exactly does it have to be fair to women? Is Selective Service fair to men in this country? Are the alimony and child custody laws fair to men in this country? Even laws recently created in the age of "feminist enlightenment" are nt fair to men. VAWA anyone? IMBRA? "Preponderance of evidence?" There is nothing that irritates me more than the legions of self-righteous glass house residents in this counry looking down their noses at how other do things as if we're so much better. There are crimes against people that happen in this country that would make the citizens of other countries vomit in disgust. Yet here we are telling others how they should do it. Hypocrisy. The new American export.
Perhaps you should look into the numbers of female accusations and testimonies that turn out to be false in western courts. Perhaps the two women rule is to counter the fact that they seem to take a loose view of the definition of the word "truth."
Western women have more rights and privileges than western males. Name me one right or privilege that men have in the west that women do not also have.
Why are they barbarians - because they have rules regarding what they find socially offensive? In this country a 15 year old boy was driven to suicide after being threatened with jail time and inclusion on the sex offender registry after he was caught streaking at a football game. Are we any less barbaric then? Homeless people caught taking a leak are added to sex offender registries regularly. Teens having consensual sex are added as well. And again, *they* are the barbarians?
And I don't buy the fact that they abuse women on any scale greater than anywhere else. If that was the case, I think you'd see lots of women expatriating or seeking refugee status in other countries. We don't though. Do we? Funding terrorism? As opposed to the USA the essentially funded, trained and armed the terrorism we are fighting via Osama Bin Ladin's Al-Qaeda in the 90s? Who was the leader of the free world that IMMEDIATELY went to the "solution" of bombing Syria and adding more bodies to the death count as a means of punishing Syria for adding more bodies to the death count. Which first world country is developing a reputation for having extremely violent police force who will shoot first and ask questions later?
So, why would we tolerate their shit? Mostly because we force the rest of the world to tolerate ours. Unless of course, you enjoy living hypocritically. Let's clean up our own house before we comment on the condition of someone elses.
Poor and starving children do not buy expensive products. Sickly, desperate people however spend as much as they can to survive.
"Are you telling me if they had peer reviewed studies proving these drugs improved your health or extended your useful life you would not take them?"
Ah yes, the ultimate offer that cannot be refused.
HIPAA is getting in Google's way. They can't just "take" people's health information the same as they do general user data. So, in order to acquire what migh actually be considered "private" data, they have chosen to be a health care provider which then gives them direct access to that normally off limits data.
"If the joke were rephrased to show the idiocy of males in technology, then it'd be different." Oh you mean like all the jokes about men being unable to take care of babies, or children? Jokes about men being "nerds" and "dorks"? About being "commitment-phobes"? Jokes about men not "manning up"? Jokes about men being socially or fashionably inept? Jokes about men buying fast cars because of their small penises? Jokes about men being domestic buffoons in the family? Or how about all the feminist jokes about "all men" being rapists or abusers or oppressors? It seems to me that men have been taking jokes for a long long time. Equally, it seems to me that it is YOU who cannot take a joke which must make it really hard for you to live with yourself.
Wow, look who takes themselves too seriously. Honestly, the ones that take the greatest offense are the ones that are the most insecure and put their entire lives into proving a point. Joking this way IS ok, because it's a joke. Like your coding skills and your self-righteous indignation.
I have asthma. Now you know. From this point on, using a fossil fuel burning vehicle or a coal burning plant for your electricity makes you liable for my illness. Continued use of these means shall be construed as negligence and criminal indifference to my rights and health.
So Google is now happily following the path of embrace and extend that Microsoft blazed to near irrelevance. Good job Google. Nothing says success like brilliant minds stifled by greed and control issues.
Any comment in the public sphere that can have the effect of making a rape victim "relive" the event. So basically, anything that can have the effect of reminding a rape victim they were raped is now a censorable "offense." Basically, as feminists like to USE situations to leverage their agenda, they are using this as an excuse to violate freedom of speech. Expect to see this strategy expanded and used more often as people begin to resist feminist hegemony. From Violet Blue's blog: "I found out a few hours later that I had been targeted by a feminist organization, The Ada Initiative. I learned that the woman who smiled at me while talking to the BSides SF organizer was Valerie Aurora, from the Ada Initiative. I also learned that what happened with my talk wasn’t a case where someone who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time as a survivor of sexual trauma or abuse, which is how it was presented to me. Instead, it was an organization that had planned to get my talk removed. I wonder, if I had offered to omit the section about GHB from my talk, which they did not know about, would the talk have been permitted by these people and the threat of problems for the organization lifted? "
Bar Rafaeli should be rejected on the grounds that she is a horrible person. She avoided her military service and then agreed to do ads convincing others to join the Israeli military all while saying that. "Celebrities have different agendas." Someone like that is a despicable creature regardless of the wrapper.
I've been using the color copier at work to print my favorite pornos out one frame at a time on reams of company paper to turn into flip books.
" U.S. banks and utilities have already been hit.'"" I knew there was an up side to having no savings and owing shitloads of money to the utilities. Take that prudent financial management!
Perhaps it is how YOU as a math and science teacher chose to teach. I personally consider the failure of the student to be the failure of the teacher.
Just a comment about white privilege. There is a constant argument over whether it exists. I say, PRIVILEGE exists. Perhaps whites have taken all of it but which whites? We absolutely have to get out from under this ALL or NONE mentality. Is there "white privilege" in China? Is there "white privilege" in the middle east? No, why? Because there is a whole different demographic that holds the privilege in those societies. Yes, I get annoyed when I hear white privilege being bandied about as if EVERY cracker like me has it. BUT, I get just as annoyed when I hear, "every black is..." or "every (insert demographic here) is..." I find the stereotyping on ALL SIDES to be short-sighted, disingenuous and frankly, disgusting. It GUARANTEES that as a species, human beings will NEVER get past this point.
In areas where males and females compete in separate tracks, female standards are ALWAYS lower than male standards - for example sports, the military, emergency response. In areas where the two are forced onto the same field (for example - jobs, education), the standard for EVERYONE is lowered or changed to suit the weakest performer. In practice, this results in a situation akin to a male runner being forced to carry extra weight to slow him down to the female standard. Perhaps this results in a nice tidy "equality" of outcome but it surely costs the person who is hamstrung to the lower standard. This is what you see in schools. Schools have been re-engineered to a standard that fits females far better than males. The fact that we actually DRUG our male children with things like Ritalin just to get them to sit through a school day should be indicative of a serious problem. Most males sleep their way through K12 because they can ) and increasingly in university as well). Ask a world class male runner to walk a course to make it fair to the women and see how long he lasts before he drops out from disgust. In education and in the work force, males are dropping out. Success at the male pace and level is absolutely hamstrung in this society. So where does a male who can't use his natural strengths to achieve accomplishment go? To the last great male space: the couch and the XBox. Where are our males right now? On the couch with the XBox. We have even had numerous social commentaries on this VERY FACT (while of course completely sidestepping the TRUE reason). This study is a joke. All it does is identify that males are bored performing to the female standard. Big surprise.