So you put up the trade barrier and instead of China moving along the development path to the point where their people are able to fight for better conditions you bury them so they cannot compete.
Where's the sense in keeping the poor nations down, even in markets where they are able to compete with rich nations? (agriculture, basic manufacturing, textiles)
Free trade is the best shot at raising the level for all people. You're not going to get every nation to comply with your dreams of baseline standards. Why should developing country X jump to some standard that makes their goods more expensive, when they know they'll lose their industries to country Y who ignores such standards?
Given true free trade, competition will win out. Your "winner" with the unsafe products will get driven out of the business by reputation, if not by litigation. Bought any eastern European cars in the U.S. lately??
You're clueless about how the whole JSF project works, aren't you?
It makes a LOT of sense to get many forces to agree on the same basic plane design, and includes 8 member nations in addition to our own forces.
The STOVL version isn't only for the Marines. The UK wants it as well.
Lockheed's design was better in a great many ways. If you've seen the report on the contest and the decision-making process, you'd change your tune (if you didn't hate America so much).
Boy, you just don't like anything the U.S. does, do you?
The JSF is a good program (granted there are many that are not). I have some friends and a particularly close relative working inside the project, and your "concerns" are way out there.
First, the current generation of planes must be replaced.
Second, the grandparent is right: There is no compromise between the conventional and carrier versions and the STOVL.
Third, the lift fan is a new technology. It demonstrably gives the STOVL version much better stability on both takeoff and landing than the single thrust point versions (Harrier and Boeing).
Fourth, the JSF is meant to be more of a "platform", like x86, because there are 8 other nations in the mix. They are providing development money for the thing, and getting aircraft from us in the end (and there will be many versions of the aircraft for those other nations, none of which will have the full capabilities of the American versions).
I'm sorry, but you'll have to be a little more "in the know" before you can declare anything ass-backwards. You say you don't know anything about building planes. This one not only has the pressure of building a new state-of-the-art plane, but also accounting for YEARS of diplomacy.
There is a reason the JSF isn't being delivered until 2012 (scheduled)...
My guess is any slick technology set up with this will let plagiarism run rampant.
Google translator already let my sister-in-law "cheat" on a German paper, but the translation was "too good" so she got caught. Paraphrasing that's excellent (obviously would take a while, but what the hell, we can play Apple II games on a Palm not 20 years later....) could be real messy.
Well, I guess any reasonable person looking at this debate would have to agree you've shown pretty poorly. Keep trying though, another few years of practice and you'll be up with the rest of us.
By the way, if you don't want to talk to me, STOP RESPONDING!:) It's pretty simple, really.
Hey, I didn't expect to see another comment in here. Thanks.:) I do, of course, make the occasional argument based on a mistaken notion or incorrect fact, but I also like to admit it when I finally figure out the facts...
I'm enjoying picking on this guy, though, so I might have to toss one more in there.
Wow, "eat shit and die", what a great criticism. And ooooo ahhh, I'm a Freak. That makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.
See, the whole problem with your presentation is that there WAS NO SUBSTANCE.
Now, I will attack the point of your previous post. First, last time I checked, "South America", "Africa", and "Asia" are not nations. As for your assertion that we are worse than all of them, I can give you a few quick names: General Lansana Conte, Pol Pot, Alfredo Stroessner, or pick anyone from North Korea. It's really pathetic to think the U.S. is worse than any of those three, and yet another indication of your rather narrow world view.
But let's go back to the beginning: You claim we're run by a fascist, fundamentalist regime. The trouble with such raving fantasies is that you might as well be claiming we're all created by aliens in test tubes: It's simply not true.
Man, I really love that "eat shit and die" nonsense, as if you can't accept that someone might have a world view less radical than yours.
Please, keep replying, I'm enjoying pushing your buttons far too much to stop now.
I obviously am no SMTP expert, but can you tell me why an approach like this would be hurtful, or why the hell ISPs aren't doing this already?
Does anyone use special techniques for initial mail submission yet? If not, this could be a good way to incrememntally migrate to the undefined "better email system"...
The answer to that is education of the ISP. Either track the names and addresses of known spammers (sort of a criminal background check that ISPs could use to see if a potential client is ok or not).
And if the ISP isn't bright enough to not allow some jackass spammer to use their system, well, tough.:)
No, calling you immature is being proven by each increasingly raving response. "Retard", on the other hand, adds no value at all...
I am impressed, though. Apparently a little debate and conversation is enough to throw you into a frenzy. You must be terribly oppressed. Down with the man.
Please, I'm begging you. Go live anywhere in South America, Africa, or China right now and then come back and call our government a "regime" (a word with negative connotation for you anti-Bush types). Granted, there are numerous nations where you'd be perfectly happy (and might not even call their gov'ts "regimes"). Feel free to go to any of those, instead.
By the way, if you look back over this conversation (which I suppose should end until you grow up), you'll note I never said there was anything wrong with saying "fuck". I was merely pointing out that your using it to try to make a point marked you as immature, and effectively obscured whatever point it was that you were trying to make.
Next time you want to make a point, make sure you have some kind of proof and can argue your side without resorting to name-calling. I'd be happy to continue to school you on effective communication skills, but the discussion thus far leads me to believe it would be comparatively pointless.
Aww, I disagree with you so you call me names. Another mark of an angry child. Good going, well done, way to get anyone to take you seriously.
I'd try to explain further, but it's quite obvious that your maturity level isn't quite up to snuff.
Of course, there is always an option for you: feel free to take your whiny ass out of the country, we won't miss you.
Oooo, "shove off monkey", that took some smarts. I also rather liked your misspelling of "condenscending" (sic) and your inability to handle some honest debate. As for your "take it hard in the teeth" nonsense, all I can say is, bring it, boy.
I use Gnome. I see all kinds of Gnome projects out there. I also use KDE apps.
But who are the "free" who are all running down the hill to KDE? Besides, if the IT community ends up choosing KDE over Gnome in any significant way, don't you think the vendors would go where the interest (read: money) is?
I think the war on drugs is based more on socialist style high-minded types who want to protect us from ourselves than any specific religious fundamentalism. Hemp vs. wood corporate fights didn't help either. How do you explain the attacks on cigarette makers by the left? They're surely not religious fundamentalists, are they?
I'd like to see where you get your numbers. I was with you until you said that the drug war has caused more deaths (300 million) than the total population of the U.S. I find that mighty hard to believe. It's a pathetic waste of resources and lives, but I believe the people are starting to understand that it's failed, and things are starting to look up (if you don't choose to see it that way, that's ok).
Also, it's hard to cry fascism when the simplest solution is to simply confine your drug use to those that are legal (alcohol and nicotine appear to be quite popular these days). It's not as though they're jailing you for being green-skinned or for voting for Dean. And hell, you CAN still vote!
To blame this particular president for any "long, hard road" is ignoring the realpolitik that dominates just about any powerful nation in the history of the world. Besides, who can say Gore would have done much differently, seeing as both parties seem to be intent on intrustive, ever-growing gov't?
Finally, your obvious anger and use of terms like "fucking retards" to describe middle America marks you as one who is still idealistic / young. You'll find in another 10 years or so you'll have calmed down somewhat, even if you believe the same things you do now. Until then, you're reactionary nature will make decisions "easy" for you, and you'll keep getting mad at everyone else who doesn't agree with you.
Suggesting that someone who watches Fox News either (a) doesn't watch anything else or (b) is unable or unworthy of understanding "what's really going on" smacks of elitism and a certain kind of liberal closed-mindedness that preaches against that which it so ably demonstrates.
Fascism is either a specific authoritarian government or, more generally, oppressive dictatorial control. If you think drugs should be legal (as I do), then you might think our government is fascist. However, "the government" is more than one issue, and on balance, it's clearly not: while the war on drugs is pathetic and well past its usefulness (if there ever was any), there are wildly varying drug laws in different states, and considering the vast numbers of middle class white kids who're smoking joints after school, one can hardly claim the federal government is oppressive (also, consider "the Drug war" was just as bad during the Clinton years, and well before Fox News came on the air).
As for fundamentalism, while there are certainly those who would like to turn the U.S. into the some sort of theocracy, it's certainly not that now and won't be in the near future. While there are those who like to preach that we should go stomp on the heathens, it's hardly happening. We're no closer to killing a billion+ Muslims as we ever were.
My guess is you're an angry white guy about 20 years old. I was there once, but trust me, it's not that bad. The glass if half full.
(I do, btw, generally agree with you on your "god bless america" bit. Throw in all the stupid ballplayers who thank god for helping them win, etc...)
This is going to seem like your average flaming/. question (hmm, that didn't quite come out right), but I'm genuinely curious as to the problem that the tablet PC solves. What's it good for?
I honestly don't see the use in it, and instead I really see another try by engines of industry to create demand for a product noone really needs...
Hopefully someone can explain it to me, and this isn't just me turning 30...
If you go watch a movie does that count as wasted hours? How about an orchestra? An opera? A ballet?
If I watch an hour of NOVA on string theory and I learn something I never would have heard about otherwise, was that wasted?
While in general I agree with your premise (that TV rots the brain, etc), I don't agree with your conclusion (eliminate TV completely). If I find each hour of the Fox show "24" exciting, and I'm thoroughly entertained, than who's to say it was a waste?
Yes, that's right, because it's technically impossible to encrypt a transmission just before sending it off and decrypting it once it's received on the other end...
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So you put up the trade barrier and instead of China moving along the development path to the point where their people are able to fight for better conditions you bury them so they cannot compete.
Where's the sense in keeping the poor nations down, even in markets where they are able to compete with rich nations? (agriculture, basic manufacturing, textiles)
Free trade is the best shot at raising the level for all people. You're not going to get every nation to comply with your dreams of baseline standards. Why should developing country X jump to some standard that makes their goods more expensive, when they know they'll lose their industries to country Y who ignores such standards?
Given true free trade, competition will win out. Your "winner" with the unsafe products will get driven out of the business by reputation, if not by litigation. Bought any eastern European cars in the U.S. lately??
I thought it was rather ironic too, but then I realized that I'd posted quite a few times before and after your little temper tantrum.
This time, you happen to hit on something I hear about on a daily basis. Just luck I guess.
You're clueless about how the whole JSF project works, aren't you?
It makes a LOT of sense to get many forces to agree on the same basic plane design, and includes 8 member nations in addition to our own forces.
The STOVL version isn't only for the Marines. The UK wants it as well.
Lockheed's design was better in a great many ways. If you've seen the report on the contest and the decision-making process, you'd change your tune (if you didn't hate America so much).
Boy, you just don't like anything the U.S. does, do you?
The JSF is a good program (granted there are many that are not). I have some friends and a particularly close relative working inside the project, and your "concerns" are way out there.
First, the current generation of planes must be replaced.
Second, the grandparent is right: There is no compromise between the conventional and carrier versions and the STOVL.
Third, the lift fan is a new technology. It demonstrably gives the STOVL version much better stability on both takeoff and landing than the single thrust point versions (Harrier and Boeing).
Fourth, the JSF is meant to be more of a "platform", like x86, because there are 8 other nations in the mix. They are providing development money for the thing, and getting aircraft from us in the end (and there will be many versions of the aircraft for those other nations, none of which will have the full capabilities of the American versions).
I'm sorry, but you'll have to be a little more "in the know" before you can declare anything ass-backwards. You say you don't know anything about building planes. This one not only has the pressure of building a new state-of-the-art plane, but also accounting for YEARS of diplomacy.
There is a reason the JSF isn't being delivered until 2012 (scheduled)...
No, damn you, it's all an evil plot by these stupid Republicans to get more money out of oil and keep down the man!!
:)
Hmm, I just thought of something: If Republicans are stupid, how can they keep coming up with all these nefarious plots?
Good joke though, the great-grandparent was.
My guess is any slick technology set up with this will let plagiarism run rampant.
Google translator already let my sister-in-law "cheat" on a German paper, but the translation was "too good" so she got caught. Paraphrasing that's excellent (obviously would take a while, but what the hell, we can play Apple II games on a Palm not 20 years later....) could be real messy.
Well, I guess any reasonable person looking at this debate would have to agree you've shown pretty poorly. Keep trying though, another few years of practice and you'll be up with the rest of us.
:) It's pretty simple, really.
By the way, if you don't want to talk to me, STOP RESPONDING!
Hey, I didn't expect to see another comment in here. Thanks. :) I do, of course, make the occasional argument based on a mistaken notion or incorrect fact, but I also like to admit it when I finally figure out the facts...
I'm enjoying picking on this guy, though, so I might have to toss one more in there.
Wow, "eat shit and die", what a great criticism. And ooooo ahhh, I'm a Freak. That makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.
See, the whole problem with your presentation is that there WAS NO SUBSTANCE.
Now, I will attack the point of your previous post. First, last time I checked, "South America", "Africa", and "Asia" are not nations. As for your assertion that we are worse than all of them, I can give you a few quick names: General Lansana Conte, Pol Pot, Alfredo Stroessner, or pick anyone from North Korea. It's really pathetic to think the U.S. is worse than any of those three, and yet another indication of your rather narrow world view.
But let's go back to the beginning: You claim we're run by a fascist, fundamentalist regime. The trouble with such raving fantasies is that you might as well be claiming we're all created by aliens in test tubes: It's simply not true.
Man, I really love that "eat shit and die" nonsense, as if you can't accept that someone might have a world view less radical than yours.
Please, keep replying, I'm enjoying pushing your buttons far too much to stop now.
So, I guess this will shut up the morons who complain that every Slashdot review is positive...
(since this is a comment about comments, but on-topic because it's about reviews, does this count as a "metacomment"? My guess is I'm just an ass...)
Hmm, I never thought I'd read the words "simple neural-net"...
Nothing to add here, sorry.
This actually reads to be a very good idea.
:P
I obviously am no SMTP expert, but can you tell me why an approach like this would be hurtful, or why the hell ISPs aren't doing this already?
Does anyone use special techniques for initial mail submission yet? If not, this could be a good way to incrememntally migrate to the undefined "better email system"...
I guess.
The answer to that is education of the ISP. Either track the names and addresses of known spammers (sort of a criminal background check that ISPs could use to see if a potential client is ok or not).
:)
And if the ISP isn't bright enough to not allow some jackass spammer to use their system, well, tough.
No, calling you immature is being proven by each increasingly raving response. "Retard", on the other hand, adds no value at all...
I am impressed, though. Apparently a little debate and conversation is enough to throw you into a frenzy. You must be terribly oppressed. Down with the man.
Please, I'm begging you. Go live anywhere in South America, Africa, or China right now and then come back and call our government a "regime" (a word with negative connotation for you anti-Bush types). Granted, there are numerous nations where you'd be perfectly happy (and might not even call their gov'ts "regimes"). Feel free to go to any of those, instead.
By the way, if you look back over this conversation (which I suppose should end until you grow up), you'll note I never said there was anything wrong with saying "fuck". I was merely pointing out that your using it to try to make a point marked you as immature, and effectively obscured whatever point it was that you were trying to make.
Next time you want to make a point, make sure you have some kind of proof and can argue your side without resorting to name-calling. I'd be happy to continue to school you on effective communication skills, but the discussion thus far leads me to believe it would be comparatively pointless.
Aww, I disagree with you so you call me names. Another mark of an angry child. Good going, well done, way to get anyone to take you seriously.
I'd try to explain further, but it's quite obvious that your maturity level isn't quite up to snuff.
Of course, there is always an option for you: feel free to take your whiny ass out of the country, we won't miss you.
Oooo, "shove off monkey", that took some smarts. I also rather liked your misspelling of "condenscending" (sic) and your inability to handle some honest debate. As for your "take it hard in the teeth" nonsense, all I can say is, bring it, boy.
Who are those who are "massively" choosing KDE?
/. rebuttals. :)
I use Gnome. I see all kinds of Gnome projects out there. I also use KDE apps.
But who are the "free" who are all running down the hill to KDE? Besides, if the IT community ends up choosing KDE over Gnome in any significant way, don't you think the vendors would go where the interest (read: money) is?
Generalizations lead to silly
I think the war on drugs is based more on socialist style high-minded types who want to protect us from ourselves than any specific religious fundamentalism. Hemp vs. wood corporate fights didn't help either. How do you explain the attacks on cigarette makers by the left? They're surely not religious fundamentalists, are they?
I'd like to see where you get your numbers. I was with you until you said that the drug war has caused more deaths (300 million) than the total population of the U.S. I find that mighty hard to believe. It's a pathetic waste of resources and lives, but I believe the people are starting to understand that it's failed, and things are starting to look up (if you don't choose to see it that way, that's ok).
Also, it's hard to cry fascism when the simplest solution is to simply confine your drug use to those that are legal (alcohol and nicotine appear to be quite popular these days). It's not as though they're jailing you for being green-skinned or for voting for Dean. And hell, you CAN still vote!
To blame this particular president for any "long, hard road" is ignoring the realpolitik that dominates just about any powerful nation in the history of the world. Besides, who can say Gore would have done much differently, seeing as both parties seem to be intent on intrustive, ever-growing gov't?
Finally, your obvious anger and use of terms like "fucking retards" to describe middle America marks you as one who is still idealistic / young. You'll find in another 10 years or so you'll have calmed down somewhat, even if you believe the same things you do now. Until then, you're reactionary nature will make decisions "easy" for you, and you'll keep getting mad at everyone else who doesn't agree with you.
You don't have to be any kind of "deep" anything... just be at least about 30 years old and have played first edition AD&D...
(um, I caught it)
Suggesting that someone who watches Fox News either (a) doesn't watch anything else or (b) is unable or unworthy of understanding "what's really going on" smacks of elitism and a certain kind of liberal closed-mindedness that preaches against that which it so ably demonstrates.
Fascism is either a specific authoritarian government or, more generally, oppressive dictatorial control. If you think drugs should be legal (as I do), then you might think our government is fascist. However, "the government" is more than one issue, and on balance, it's clearly not: while the war on drugs is pathetic and well past its usefulness (if there ever was any), there are wildly varying drug laws in different states, and considering the vast numbers of middle class white kids who're smoking joints after school, one can hardly claim the federal government is oppressive (also, consider "the Drug war" was just as bad during the Clinton years, and well before Fox News came on the air).
As for fundamentalism, while there are certainly those who would like to turn the U.S. into the some sort of theocracy, it's certainly not that now and won't be in the near future. While there are those who like to preach that we should go stomp on the heathens, it's hardly happening. We're no closer to killing a billion+ Muslims as we ever were.
My guess is you're an angry white guy about 20 years old. I was there once, but trust me, it's not that bad. The glass if half full.
(I do, btw, generally agree with you on your "god bless america" bit. Throw in all the stupid ballplayers who thank god for helping them win, etc...)
This is going to seem like your average flaming /. question (hmm, that didn't quite come out right), but I'm genuinely curious as to the problem that the tablet PC solves. What's it good for?
I honestly don't see the use in it, and instead I really see another try by engines of industry to create demand for a product noone really needs...
Hopefully someone can explain it to me, and this isn't just me turning 30...
I don't think you've ever lived under a fascist or fundamentalist government. Or read much history, either...
So, just curious...
If you go watch a movie does that count as wasted hours? How about an orchestra? An opera? A ballet?
If I watch an hour of NOVA on string theory and I learn something I never would have heard about otherwise, was that wasted?
While in general I agree with your premise (that TV rots the brain, etc), I don't agree with your conclusion (eliminate TV completely). If I find each hour of the Fox show "24" exciting, and I'm thoroughly entertained, than who's to say it was a waste?
Well, uh, if it's not going to solve anything what the fuck is the point of creating another useless law?
One can't help but wonder how long the /. dopes will find the endless stream of SCO jokes funny.
I can't wait for that day... "Grabbit and Runne"? That's funny? WTF?
Yes, that's right, because it's technically impossible to encrypt a transmission just before sending it off and decrypting it once it's received on the other end...